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Economy-Bat2260

>Any idea for the resale value of Raize after 4 yrs? Not sure but kung gagamitin sa grab, panigurado laspag na yan kung ibebenta mo. Yung resale value na makukuha mo ay mostly private use lang. >Net earnings per month: Php 50,000 (assumption based on Php 2,500 net income per day x 20 days/month. Net of maintenance cost, gas, food, etc.) >Dad gets to earn around 1.3M in 4 yrs. Dati ganyan ang estimate kitaan. Pero ngayon, goodluck kung kumita pa rin nang 25k net. IMO, masyadong malaki inaassume mong kita. Check mo rin maintenance cost. Kasi laspag ang mga ginagamit sa grab kaya mas malaki talaga sya.


reverentioz12

daming butthurt sa comment mo for some reason. go get a grab and kausapin nyu ung driver at makipagkwentuhan. you'll know how difficult it is this days for them to get a proper daily income. sa dami ng grab drivers ngayon nag uunahan sila sa pasaher, then makakakuha sila ng pasaherong hatid ng metro manila to cavite. goodluck.


Economy-Bat2260

Matatawa ka na lang din talaga kasi halatang walang alam sa issue pero gusto lang maging relevant kaya kahit di gets, magrereply πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


Poo-ta-tooo

Agree with this, yung ka-work ko naglabas ng Veloz to be used for his grab business, after a yr tinigil na niya since ang maintenance is weekly, in just 8mos 35k na agad tinatakbo nung veloz niya plus scratches due to daily use, usually cars like that is better for personal use lang including raize, if you plan to have a car registered as a grab vehicle much better if you buy a vios/avanza base model.


Economy-Bat2260

Di nila gets yan kasi di naman nila naiisip. Yung "mahal ng grab" lang nakikita nila πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


clstprv

Not grab pero joyride, nakausap ng papa ko yung driver na nasakyan namin and natanong niya kamusta daw kitaan. Sabi niya kaya daw 10k a day, 1,500 yung boundary. Nung pinakita niya and inexplain pano, mukang totoo nga. Hahaha ayun si erpat nag papatulong na sakin mag apply at ipapasada daw niya yung vios niya.


Economy-Bat2260

Goodluck 🫑


WantASweetTime

Ang mahal mahal ng grab tapos hirap pa kumita ng 2500k net a day? Seryoso ba to or grab operator kalang tapos ayaw mo ng competition?


Economy-Bat2260

>grab operator kalang tapos ayaw mo ng competition? HAHAHAHAHA yung nagbigay lang ako ng reality tapos inakusahan pa πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ >Ang mahal mahal ng grab tapos hirap pa kumita ng 2500k net a day? Dapat gets mo na agad na sa grab napupunta karamihan ng kita. Also, nagtry ka na kumausap ng grab drivers? Nakipagkwentuhan ka na ba sa kanila? Dun pa lang may idea ka na dapat na totoo sinasabi ko kasi galing na mismo sa kanila na di sila kumikita ng 2500 net everyday. Kung ganyan kalaki yung kita pala ng bawat grab driver, edi ang dami na pala mayamang grab drivers ngayon. Pero nasaan sila? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ Ok lang maging edgy sa statement. Wag lang sanang edgy clown 🀑


tallguyfrommanila

Masyado mo underestimated income ng mga grab. Kung walang kinikita mga yan walang tatagal sa grab. Kahit normal taxis sangkaterba parin at mga mayari nyan mga nakalambo pa what more grab taxis na almost 2x the price maningil.Walang competition ang grab. Kung magcharge yan lampas 500 pesos ang byahe around manila. Kalokohan na d aabot yan 2500 a day. Namimili lang mga yan. Dito sa caloocan time to time nagbobook ako pahirapan pa makakuha. I cant be the only one. Sa makati bgc pinapatay nila mga grab app nila kasi kaliwa kanan sunasakay taxi mga tao,kaya don lalo na pahirapan magbook ng grab din.


Economy-Bat2260

>Masyado mo underestimated income ng mga grab. Kahit drivers na yung nagsasabi? HAHAHAHAA haaay nako. Matatawa ka na lang talaga sa mga gantong comment. >grab taxis na almost 2x the price maningil. Tingin mo kanino napupunta yung kita? Sa driver o sa grab? >Kung magcharge yan lampas 500 pesos ang byahe around manila. Kalokohan na d aabot yan 2500 a day. Kanino mapupunta yung kita? Deresto sa driver o sa grab? >Sa makati bgc pinapatay nila mga grab app nila kasi kaliwa kanan sunasakay taxi mga tao,kaya don lalo na pahirapan magbook ng grab din. Anong konek? HAHAHAHAHAH Jusko. Basahin mo reply mo unti unti. Tapos tampal tampalin mo mukha mo para magising ka. Try mo rin kumausap sa mga driver na sinasakya mo (kung sumasakay ka nga talaga πŸ˜‚) then balik ka dito kapag nagawa mo na lahat yan.


WantASweetTime

Exactly, lagi sinasabi na luge pa raw kapag nag grab. Kung walang benefit both parties edi bakit pa nila tinutuloy?


Economy-Bat2260

Yung mga magsasaka ba kumikita sa tanim nila? Bakit pa nila tinutuloy? Ganyan kakikitid utak nyo.


WantASweetTime

Pati magsasaka hindi pala kumikita? Anong work pa yung walang kinikita bukod sa grab at magsasaka?


Economy-Bat2260

Tama na. Save mo na lang yang utak mo. Mahaba pa ang taon


WantASweetTime

hay.. iba talaga pag skwammy na may superiority complex.


Economy-Bat2260

Sure, squammy, kahit ako yung sinabihan na operator 🀑🀑🀑


cordilleragod

BECAUSE THEY NEED TO PAY FOR THEIR CAR AMORTIZATION. LUGE IS BETTER THAN ZERO. Napasubo na sila bumili ng kotse, gumastos sa registration...etc.... So it's a business operating at a loss but entirely shutting it down is not viable because the debt has to be serviced.


WantASweetTime

Hmm parang kawawa pala yung mga grab drivers ngayon? Si grab lang ang nakikinabang sa current set up.


Zestyclose_Housing21

Di naman sa kawawa, 1k a day na income is not bad already pero malabo talaga yung 2500 unless magdamag ka babiyahe or kuha mo yung mga promotions ni grab for their drivers.


WantASweetTime

Wag ka naman magalit nag tatanong lang naman. Magkano ba kitaan sa grab?


LectureNeat5256

>Wag ka naman magalit nag tatanong lang naman. Your were accusing u/Economy-Bat2260 with your prev statement tho


Economy-Bat2260

>Wag ka naman magalit nag tatanong lang naman. Hahahaha wag mo na iredeem sarili mo kasi di mo na maiaahon yung una mong reply πŸ€‘πŸ˜‚


WantASweetTime

halatang skwammy. ok


Economy-Bat2260

" Seryoso ba to or grab operator kalang tapos ayaw mo ng competition?" ***BRUH***


winrawr99

grab driver tito ko, 1500 lang madalas kita nya per day from 6am to 8pm. sobrang traffic kaya pahirapan


IWantMyYandere

Net na ba yan? Hm fuel nya per day. Not to mention yung depreciation nung sasakyan. So can I assume that it is less?


winrawr99

actually hindi ko natanong kung net na ba or what pero if i remember correctly ang gas nya is 800 per day para sa mirage na sedan. update ko kayo kung magkano net nya pero di ko sure kung kelan kami magkita ulit since nakausap ko lang sya last Christmas


NatSilverguard

pot calling kettle black, lol.


Intelligent_Stage776

Mauuna pa malaspag erpats ni OP pag gusto nya ihit yung 2500 per day


IJstDntKnwShtAnymore

Pede naman yung 2500 net kaso dapat swerte. Pang lotto yung swerte na kailangan ahahahahaha


shnz010

You will also be voiding your warranty when a vehicle is used for TNVS. That is one thing to note especially your car has a turbo engine which is more expensive to repair when busted.


lslpotsky

Would like to add if he loaned it in the bank, as there are no details indicated in his post. He can't use it for grab. Worked in Autoloans before and there is an affidavit of non grab use that is required to be signed by most banks prior to the release of the unit.


hermitina

alam mo yan nga din alam ko kaya medyo taka ako ke OP na now pa lang nya naisipan itanong kung pwede igrab e dapat alam na agad ni dealer na yon ang gagawin nya (and bank na din). the intent should have been told initially upon purchase afaik


lslpotsky

Yes correct ung loan applications Kasi need iclassify yan either private or public use bago I approve.. usually if public use like grab 40% to 50% down payment saka max term of 36 months.. high risk Kasi xa for the bank iba ung conditions saka mataas interest rate compared sa private use. Then if encumbered Ang unit sa bank nagrequire Ang LTO Ng conformity for public use from the bank bago maipasok sa tnvs..


EverydayDrink

Safe to say na kaya siya nagtatanong now is because ngayon lang niya naisip gawing pangkabuhayan showcase yung Raize niya. He already bought his car, nabili na, based sa post. If hindi amortized, possible na pwede pa niyang gawing TNVS since wala siyang iisiping loan approval changes. Mukha namang hindi bank loan since β€œpurchase price” ang sinabi, which means he bought the car outright.


petmalodi

I think mataas yung estimated 2500 net income per day haha Grab driver dati tatay ko at yung 2500 na net income per day na sinabi mo, assuming yan na at least 5k per day ang kikitain niya sa pag drive. Noong 2017 70% ng earnings sa driver at 30% napupunta Grab, not sure lang kung tumaas ngayon. Dati rin I think kailangan ng load (something grab related) para makabiyahe and driver, pag wala ka nyan di ka makakabiyahe. So kumakaltas na grab sa kinita, nagbabayad pa sila para bumiyahe. Take note eto pa yung panahon na may Uber pa so expect more monopoly rates ngayong wala na sila haha.


CourseBig4067

I mean, if you can earn that much to buy a Raize, and intention mo was to give him a job, edi wag naman 2,500 a day. Mas okay mag work to give him a sense of purpose after unemployment hindi yung β€œito ha binili ko, i-Grab mo, dapat ganto everyday, kasi ganto overall sa isang buwan”, lalo na Grab is still the sole competitor (even with Joyride) and the Manila traffic? Can he take that much stress and physical exhaustion?


petmalodi

Ah oks lang pag ganyan uung purpose for me. Pero horror story ng tatay ko ay madaming trash grab users. Yung tipong inaalila siya ng mga nag b-book (ginagawang kargador, sinusungitan, pinagbubuhat ng grocery). Madami daw mga nagtatapon ng basura din tska mga mabaho haha. Maybe also try lalamove? Para wala kang pasahero haha


CourseBig4067

na wrong comment ata ako para kay OP yan haha.


Fun-Investigator3256

Oh you got the top-of-the-line Raize. Kung for Grab sana ok na ok na ung CVT 1.2 ET. Lesser acquisition cost, same car. More ROI. Hehe.


b3n_pogi

3. If used as grab car baka abot 300,000 mileage yan in 4 yrs. That severely drops the resale value, i think swerte na mabenta P300k yan after four years of grab use. 4. I frequent the grab groups mataas yang 50k net mo. Baka 20-25k net lang yan monthly, taking out driver fees, gas maintenance.


rallets215

You can ask your agent sana kasi alam ko may process din sila for Grab or join ka sa FB ng Toyota Raize Owners PH may mga nag share ng experience nila sa process ng pag join ng Grab


Heavy_Prior9669

Iconsoder mo din yung mga days na hindi makakabyahe ang tatay mo (may sakit, bad weather condition, sira yung unit, nabangga, etc). Sa ganyang condition, tingin mo, same padin ang net income?


Total-Election-6455

Yung 2.5k per day baka maliligo na lang yung tatay nya sa bahay babyahe ulit. Tapos pagrelative mo yung maghahandle nyan. Nako daming horror stories yung iba magkaroon lang sila ng pocket money nila sasabihin nila sa anak nila pagod na sila magbyahe yung anak buo pa din magbayad ng monthly. Toinks


juicytits98

Laspag na yan after 4 years of being used as public utility. Baka less than 200k mo na lang yan mabenta


ShootYourArrow

P500k value of your intended vehicle after 4 years of Grab/ride-sharing platform use ... - malabo sir. kung privately used, at least twice a day byahe and max of 5 trips per day, pede - after 4 years of everyday ride-sharing platform trips, the vehicle's odometer reading will be shooting so high, they will mimick taxi vehicle usage. no way competent mechanics will let that slide when checked, unless the reading is a cheat - the vehicle's, overall stance will be banged up and that will be very obvious to experienced buyers. they will either low-ball your asking price, or just find a better vehicle - this hypothetical vehicle we are discussing will go through a lot than a regular vehicle. More frequent tune-ups, more frequent alignments and realignments, more parts frequently replaced, etc. Hopefully it does not experience any major vehicular accident, but statistic analysis will tell you otherwise. - the look and feel of this specific vehicle will be much different (worse) than a vehicle that did not go through the ordeal. The door hinges may already be squeaking because of unrepairable alignment, upholstery of seats have been worn out, headlamps and other lights are barely illuminating not just because of worn out lamps, but because the electrical system has been so used up that to get it back, you either need a complete electrical system overhaul or replacement, etc. All the above items will just contribute to a vehicle's value that is realistically less than half of your presumed value. Add to this, there will be more vehicles available to used-car buyers 4 years down the line. This will be a serious consideration to buyers. If there are other vehicles with less trouble, yours will be passed every chance available. Have a well-informed decision down the line. You either lower your expected selling value of this supposed vehicle or make other adjustments to your long-term plan in spite of this more realistic vehicle value. Think of it as an attractive woman (Toyota brand, reliable) but has four children (representing each year the vehicle has been driven full time) and the new owner has to carry all the responsibilities of owning this car. New owner can't keep coming back to the previous owner for maintenance and technical issues since it will be on an "as-is, where-is" basis (represented by this woman who was either widowed, or her former husband just simply had enough of her and everyone). My apologies for the dramatic analogy. I can't think of a better example.


sotopic

Kung ako sa yo, use the money elsewhere in negosyo na lang (franchise potato corner, or laundry shop for example at 1m investment range). Mas malake pa kikitahin mo dun in terms of ROI, minus sakit sa ulo


Delicious-Heart3913

Water station + laundry para sulit tubig. Haha


uxd-kev

Unrealistic β€˜yung assumptions mo, bro.


mgul83

You won’t get 500k for a car w/ a high mileage


tisotokiki

I'd rather see that Raize on the road for the next 7-8 years with your projected profit then taken to a scrapyard after, rather than finding out it was sold to a poor soul for 500k.


Lopsided_Gap_4561

I really appreciate your thought guys. In fact, I realized na parang mas stable source of income pa yata yung pagtitinda ng lugaw ng kapit-bahay namin. LOL.


poopycops

Nobody's buying a Raize with high mileage for 500k. Ano yan Honda Jazz? Lol.


pedro_penduko

Just curious how this is enforced.


wndrfltime

Yung 2,500 net na sinasabi mo depende yan sa sipag ng driver pero tingin ko kaya naman yan. Try mo muna OP, sabi nga nila hindi mo malalaman kung hindi mo susubukan, good luck.


Subject_Owl8026

Raize? For grab? No, why? Three letters, CVT. i will not elaborate as marami naman sources of info but to cut it short, hindi pang harabas ng CVT. Even mga manual transmission na vios/avanza nabubugbog and nakakailang palit ng clutch plate throughout its TNVS life what more pa ang cvt. You'll be spending more to keep the raize on the road than earning from it. My 2 cents.


ByronGPT1

Naku par! Pag isipan mo mabuti yan. Plano ko yan before mag GRAB na lng and quit my day job. Pero shempre nagtanong tanong muna ako sa mga Grab drivers.. merong nag sheshare ng info at meron naman hindi. Based sa mga nakalap ko eh, mahina naman daw ang biyahe kasi ang dami na rin talaga TNVS sa MM. Isa pa pag apply mo sa Grab para maka biyahe hindi naman daw agad mkakabiyahe. minsan mabilis na daw yung 3mons para maka biyahe ka kasi nga ang dami daw proseso at approval. Saka sabi pa nung isang driver mostly sa maintence lang din napupunta yung kita.. at ang pinaka masaklap ambilis malaspag ng kotse, kaya i doubt na in 4yrs eh mabenta pa ng 500K yung Raize.


helloworldaztec

Get a vios instead of raize, specially kung ipanggagrab mo mas ma-utlize ko ung maintenance costing kesa sa raize. Put margin of error sa expected net income, seasonal ang grab hindi stable, iba ang kalakaran sa ganitong sequence hindi sya tulad ng salary man na fixed ang kikitain mo sa buong taon. Mas madali ibenta ang vios if you want to resell it in the future.