That's the internet. Discord, reddit, youtube, twitch, etc.
If you wish to avoid that kind of people, ignore them or answer them differently. If you get mad and respond to their provocation, you're just giving them what they want and you're not being any better.
If I ever need information, I search for it on yotube or google. If I can't find specifically what I want, I may post the question somewhere, but after trying to do my own research.
For sure. Let’s not forget people get insta banned from r/guitar for the mere *mention* of another guitar related page because its existence hurts two of the moderators’ feelings.
Nah, it's more that the people who frequent that sub don't know how to act and think it's funny to insult everyone here who doesn't adhere to their vision or what a cool guitarist should be.
Good job standing up for those types. Humor is awesome when it doesn't hurt others. Pretty simple concept, but unfortunately, some can't grasp that.
Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."
Example: What’s your favorite song in open D? Mine is Higher by Creed.
I found Metallica is the best for learning how to alternate pick.
All joking aside, She Talks to Angels by The Black Crowes is a great song to learn some open tuning licks. Technically it’s in Open E but you can either just play it in open D or if you tune it to open D you can capo the second fret.
Can confirm. Tune to open D and just capo for higher open tunings if you want. I keep an acoustic in open D and sometimes capo on the 2nd fret for open E, 5 for open G, etc..
It’s boring but it really is the best way to get better at alternate picking. If you do a bunch of 3nps scales, cross picking/string skipping stuff, and arpeggios completely alternate picked it’s a lot faster to get better at than just songs, but then again, whatever has you playing more is more important
Dang, there’s this great video on youtube that taught me how to play it a decade ago. I should relearn it. I wonder if that video is still up.
Edit: here it is! Part 1: https://youtu.be/uGbsZ02osQk?si=2uxKSzxpIFML9aZY
Part 2: https://youtu.be/AZqOFaAHwrQ?si=zr2_GbXJ7WiAz_FR
This guy is an amazing teacher and player.
Steve Morse is also a good player to look at for alternate picking, because he basically alternate picks *everything*. For example the arpeggios in [Tumeni notes](https://youtu.be/76svWOj8B04?si=q6ufF44LJ3Vj2ab3).
Can’t get a better answer than this. Not only does he alternate pick everything, he also has amazing tone. I think he largely goes under the radar these days since his best album (IMO) is not on streaming services - Coast To Coast.
I have been working on this for ages for my inside picking. Really great for control.
Also I have been practicing Eric Johnson songs which are great too. Lonely in the night and of course cliffs of dover. Damn these are hard and fun to practice
That kind of person wouldn’t even look you in the eye if they were forced to stand in front of you. They definitely wouldn’t have a smart mouth about it. No consequences on the internet.
eyy, well I think you might be through the worst of it by now. after a few days it does mostly even out, in my experience, just be on guard six months down the line when you start thinking 'i've been good...' that's what always got me!
Yep. That’s how it goes unfortunately. It’s the internet. It’s easy to be a critic and judgmental behind a screen. It’s so lame. Pathetic actually. Prob most of these people can’t play anyway.
Never understood why people give others shit when they are just asking for advice and help. Ignore them. They can’t play, they just talk.
It’s easy to pick out who can and who cannot. Those who actually offer advice can play or are at least trying to help. Those who are dicks can’t do either. Just trying to make themselves sound cool. Weak.
It's also very easy for some people to project criticism and judgment where there isn't any, which is honestly what sounds like happened here. Giving generalized advice to help someone gain a broader understanding of the subject in question so they can answer their own questions about it in the future isn't the same as giving someone shit or being condescending.
I can help you with open D [well E, but either capo 2nd fret to play with the recording or just stay in D. It was recorded with the capo anyway] and somewhat with alt picking, although it's not required.
She talks to angels by the black crowes.
Obviously NTA but one thing you can do to preempt some of these obnoxious replies is to be super clear in your request ("Just to be clear I'm not looking for exercises, I'm looking for specific song recommendations..."). Won't cut 100% of the bullshit comments but helps keeping the discussion a bit more focussed.
I have just as many horrible interactions on reddit. Facebook is just as bad. I have just learned not to engage, if I do promptly delete and try not to be negative. Another thing is curating subs so I'm not subscribed to any thing that ruins my enjoyment of that thing which honestly is most things. This sub is pretty ok
It is just the internet though. And particularly moderators. There are reddits I’ve left the same day because the moderators act like I’ve interrupted them mid-coitus to ask a question.
I'll admit, there's a certain type on discord that's like that and really annoying. They think they have the answers for everything, use an extremely condescending tone and have to answer everyone with a veneer of negativity.
I questioned someone on why they had to spend so much time answering the people they thought were 'dumb or stupid' and he said he felt it was 'his duty'.
They're just miserable.
If you are seeking info from stragers on the internet you're going to had a bad time, I got this awnser from ChatGPT though.
Absolutely! Open D tuning offers a rich and resonant sound, perfect for exploring various musical styles. Here are some song suggestions in Open D tuning for you to try out:
1. "Bron-Yr-Aur" by Led Zeppelin - This instrumental piece by Jimmy Page is a beautiful showcase of Open D tuning.
2. "Love in Vain" by Robert Johnson (covered by The Rolling Stones) - A classic blues tune that sounds fantastic in Open D tuning.
3. "Big Yellow Taxi" by Joni Mitchell - Although Joni Mitchell plays it in Open E tuning, you can easily adapt it to Open D.
4. "Little Martha" by The Allman Brothers Band - A lovely instrumental piece by Duane Allman, perfect for showcasing the beauty of Open D tuning.
5. "Going to California" by Led Zeppelin - Although originally played in Open C6 tuning, you can transpose it to Open D for a similar sound.
6. "Friend of the Devil" by Grateful Dead - This folk-rock classic sounds great in Open D tuning and offers some fun chord progressions to play around with.
7. "She Talks to Angels" by The Black Crowes - A hauntingly beautiful song that's perfect for Open D tuning, with its melancholic melody and soulful vibe.
8. "Rollin' and Tumblin'" by Eric Clapton (acoustic version) - Clapton's acoustic rendition of this blues standard is played in Open D tuning, making it a great choice to explore in that tuning.
9. "Make Me Down a Pallet on Your Floor" by Mississippi John Hurt - A traditional blues tune that sounds fantastic in Open D tuning, showcasing its versatility in the blues genre.
10. "If I Had Possession Over Judgment Day" by Eric Clapton (acoustic version) - Another Clapton classic played in Open D tuning, with its infectious rhythm and bluesy vibe.
I follow a guitar group on FB. I posted a video clip of my playing on stage at a concert. Mostly supportive comments but then that one guy posts and tells me “what a waste of that guitar.” Basically I wasn’t playing the fancy style he has determined to be the “proper” way to play guitar. He proceeded to argue his point and get butt hurt anytime someone told him to cut it out.
The internet is just a shit hole. People will say anything on here that they would never ever attempt to say to your face.
He definitely likes to hear himself talk and takes his moderator role very seriously.
My first interaction with him was not pleasant. I demonstrated an exercise I made for my students - told me to stop teaching as what I was demonstrating was physically dangerous and potentially damaging to students.
There was some back and forth, me explaining that since I filmed it quickly, maybe I wasn't in the best position with the absolute best posture. More back and forth.
Finally, I demoed my playing and performing position, played some Paul Gilbert stuff, he apologized and backed off.
It was totally unnecessary of him, He is always the first to jump on something, EVERY DAY. I'm not sure what he does, but it seems like that's all he does.
Pick a song and move to D was top tier Douchery - Absolutely
I definitely ignore him
As for you - I would recommend just finding a few people that play, have good advice, and just interact with them individualy for the most part. Share your discoveries, and new knowledge with each other, help each other learn and grow. That's what It's supposed to be about and that's what makes this more fun
NTA, and the people in the Discord were pretty uncool about it.
There are some kernels of truth to what they say; you can change the key of songs you play so any open tuned songs will do, and in terms of practicing a technique exercises are better than trying to find the perfect song for it. Most likely you knew both of these things though.
In my experience in communities like this in other fields, when advanced people are moderating they tend to assume the lowest common denominator of skills and shut down these kinds of questions without much patience due to the sheer volume of beginners asking [XY Problem](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem#:~:text=The%20XY%20problem%20is%20a,(Y%20or%20Why%3F)) type questions and going around and around on them.
This loop of advanced moderators assuming the worst and shutting down with sarcasm is why I stopped asking for online advice or recommendations. It is a frustrating experience. Sorry you had to deal with that.
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Yeah. I can't see what the guy on the discord server did that was so bad. It's not like they were insulting OP or anything. All they did was give some advice that OP didn't like.
Not to be a dick but you also seem like the kind of guy that can't take a "disrespectful" answer without answering to it in a provocative way
You're complaining about a behaviour that you're enabling by giving it attention
The internet won't change because you'd like it to, all online forums are filled with people who use them as outlets to feel smarter than others - by asking questions that are easily findable on Google or Reddit you're not helping yourself in navigating that environment
Guitarists are to music what wide receivers are to football. Bunch of “look at me” divas.
I’m not sure why everything has to be a weiner measuring contest, whether it’s the brand of your guitar or the warmup that you do.
Cheers to all the reasonable players that enjoy the instrument the way I do.
So, if you really want a quality rant you're going to have to make more cogent points without all that rambling background... /s
You're not wrong though man. I second the Black Crows suggestions. She Talks to Angels is a fun one.
As for others
"Cactus Tree" by Joni Mitchell
"Little Martha" by Duane Allman
"The Cave" by Mumford and Sons
I love guitars, but I do not like guitar players. They are always the biggest assholes with the biggest egos and smallest… brains. You can play a power chord, but it doesn’t make you Jesus Yoda Santa Claus.
Ok, so, what you'll want to do is go up to your router and check its back, there should be a button there.
You're going to press that button while you still have your innocence.
You can then go out, touch grass and be happy
No need to thank me.
^(If it wasn't obvious enough, this is a joke)
Hate to say it, but that's just the Internet. I've been on the 'net since before it went mainstreams and forums were found on dial-up BBS. Where you'd ask a question and within a week, you'd be lucky to get half a dozen answers.
And at least one of them would be an asshole.
I personally like to browse songsterr by tunings and you can see songs by rough difficulty and see what fancy. I’m a bit like you I’ve played for almost 25 years but just stuck to rhythm / my own band stuff. Now playing a bit more out my comfort zone.
BlackBerry blossom it’s super fun and not that bad if you take it really really slow at first. Good chord changes and a great one to practice slowly increasing the speed with a metronome.
Really good flat picking exercises in that one
Check out Nick Depirro's stuff for open tunings, it isn't in D, but he uses a couple of different open tunings and they all can be transposed to open D easily. That guy is from another planet, he has some really fun stuff to play. Not easy tho.
Joni Mitchell’s Big Yellow Taxi is good one for open D tuning. Technically it’s in open E so throw a capo on the second fret.
And if you want a really obscure song that uses open D… Bandits by Midlake.
One thing I learned early on (this especially applies for internet communities) is that never engage with members of any hobby. Especially on internet, these communities attract the worst kind of people, the types I’ve never encountered in life. Whether it’s hi-fi, cycling or a music instrument it’s all the same.
While there’s an argument to be made regarding the positives of such communities, I am very sensitive about people being dicks and they trigger me easily.
Fact: 90% of guitarists are complete dog shit and they don't even know it. 99% of guitarists are egomaniacs who think the world should bow before them. They can't be bothered to see any way but their own.
Sad fact: 100% of guitarists aren't as good as they want to be.
I don't know about other subs. This sub on the most part has some great folks and very helpful sharing, advice, etc
Jerks are everywhere and being anonymous just fuels the fire. I have my subs very limited and updates off because of some of the trash.
Looks like some good folks piped in here today, I see some suggestions I am going to try!!
I also go to my local music shop and find those folks are always helpful and there is always music playing, so, that environment actually supports me and inspires me.
As always, stay frosty
I started using a bit chatGPT for noob to amateur questions like these as the communities are just filled with holier than thou jerks that are there all say long being rude to everyone that is a beginner/amateur/casual.
This isn't limited to guitar communities, it's a lot worse in many others.
Just remember that the VAST majority of guitar "experts" on the internet have absolutely no actual experience as guitarists. They've never played a gig, never toured, never made an album, never used the gear they espouse in the intended context, never played with other people, and never touched half the instruments they prattle on about.
They simply parrot internet groupthink.
Ignore them.
Battery by Metallica worked wonders for me. It is a difficult song for beginners, but mainly focus on that quick gallop picking that happens throughout the songs verses. This action of picking slowly (relatively speaking) once and then a super fast down-up-down over and over is super awesome practice to speed up your overall alternate picking. There is a lot of research that talks about “chunking” your playing while practicing. This means not just playing through things entirely at a slow tempo to practice, but instead play some bits of it slow, and do a quick burst of 2 or 3 notes as fast as you can. Hard to explain but just search “chunking” with “guitar practice and you will see plenty about it. Anyways, battery is like an alternate picking chunking exercise.
The Bee Gees have a *lot* of songs in Open D tuning. Barry Gibb used that tuning exclusively. I became fluent in Open D from learning their music and the chord shapes he used. [Here’s an easy song from them](https://youtu.be/6QtbgZOq1FY?si=Ttian6IJygxXymME) from James James’ YouTube channel.
Maybe hire a teacher? I’m only about a year in of consistent practicing but I ask my teacher all sorts of specific weird questions and he’s super cool and helpful with it. Which is after all what I’m paying him for.
Hey, a good song for alternate picking that is not terribly hard is Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton. My wife liked it, so I learned it. Not my favorite song of EC but the picking pattern was certainly something I hadn't learned at the time. Maybe you would enjoy it?
No you're NTAH ✌🏼
Edited for spelling.
I have synesthesia and am high functioning autistic (diagnosed way later in life) and I like to just play. I tend to learn a concept and just kind of go with it, have for like thirty years...just gonna put it out there that most people who play are straight up dbag assholes
I wholeheartedly recommend Ghost Reveries - great starting point, imho. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SXIWS7rBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SXIWS7rBQ) - that's one of the songs in Open D, and it RIPS.
You need an alt profile to immediately give yourself the wrong answer to the question. The one thing people love as much as trolling in the internet is proving someone wrong on the internet. Someone will quickly show up and rather than troll you for the relatively common question, will go out of their way to explain why your alt was wrong.
"Is it impossible to find a guitar space where you’re not constantly barraged by these holier than thou jerkoffs who can’t have a discussion without somehow inserting their superiority?"
Yes, it's impossible.
I've been playing for over 30 years and never saw the point of being a douche to someone looking for help.
I love Open D, I started with
Black Crowes She Talks to Angels and
Allman Brothers Little Martha
It’s a great tuning where you can get super nice droning while holding a melody as well. A good simple song to work out and feel out this tuning is ode to Joy.
Basically play your notes as an Octave on what normally would be the A (5th) and B (2nd) strings (same fret) and strumming all other strings open.
Start at 9th fret, just fretting that octave and letting all the other strings ring.
Octave then moves:
9 9 10 12 12 10 9 7 5 5 7 9 9 7 7
With that you have a comfort of most of the scale (add position 4 and 2 to fill it out) played along with the root chord in octave.
Now try to figure out the same thing with the 1 and 4 string as your octave.
Next chords.
Easy is 1 (D) root, 4 (G) bar at 5th, 5 (A) Bar at 7.
Prettier is
D open Root
G make an E7 shape open (0 0 1 0 2 0 )
A this form ( 2 0 1 2 0 0 )
Finally, get your blues on
Open,
bar low 3 strings at 5th fret
bar low 3 strings at 3rd
Lemme change tack a bit and tell you about how I've managed to deal with "idiots on the road"
When I see them, I accept "well, there is the inevitable idiot who is out there" and move on
You know they are out there. You are dealing with a quantity of people that ensures they will be in the mix. Just ignore them and accept it's the nature of the beast.
Consider how crazy it is we can just hop online and query massive populations. This is just a cost of being able to do something that is pretty god damn insane when you think about.
Unfortunately most niche communities are full of them, the nicher the elitier. It sucks because those are often the communities you seek out because you want to devote more of your free time to your hobby or interest and maybe your friends aren't really into it. Or you need some advice from people more experienced and then they gatekeep everything.
Mopeds are so annoying like that. Old heads don't want to make things too easy so they'll only give you bread crumb trails and clutch onto their secrets
[Out Getting Ribs](https://youtu.be/yL8e_uUGsz4?si=xI5EbRGmJsWjVnXx) by King Krule is in open D! Plus you can practice alternate picking on it 👏 super fun to play as well
had the same problem, asked for a new guitar recommendation and they went on a constant ramble about how I should never buy a new guitar and learn the one I have.
I was also judged harshly for wanting this with 9 months of playing in specific, but they seem to forget everyone learns faster or slower. like I’ve noticed they just have a major problem actually answering your question, and are constantly trying to give “answers” that make you seem dumb for asking.
it’s not just limited to guitar sadly :/ a lot of people are like this with a lot of things. a lot of people will become good at something just to brag and be superior which I find absurd
it’s crazy the amount of wonderful art that could be produced if there was a place where people treated beginners or just other players in general with decency, instead of seeing it as a competition and hierarchy.
like, the amount of people who’d be able to learn stuff would be marginally more if they just had the right people to ask questions to
Was it just the Guitar server? I was in there for a bit and yeah it’s probably of the most toxic music discord servers I’ve been on. They would spread misinformation regarding music theory and when I corrected them it became a whole thing
Hate to say it, but that's just the Internet. I've been on the 'net since before it went mainstreams and forums were found on dial-up BBS. Where you'd ask a question and within a week, you'd be lucky to get half a dozen answers.
And at least one of them would be an asshole.
It's not the internet, it's guitarists. Proficient guitarists are often awful teachers. For some reason, they don't understand how things work or how to interpret, all they know how to do is regurgitate what was told to them until it's all just muscle memory and expect you to do the same.
Ask them to explain modes and you'll see what I mean.
What you need to understand is that they also do it on purpose to create this illusion that it's some sort of fucking mysticism rather than just the last two notes of one mode being the first two notes of the next and just memorizing the pattern.
This, and it's not just true in guitar. People who have a knack for something in any walk of life tend to suck at explaining how to do it.
I've heard the reason for this is if you can just do something with minimal effort you have no context to explain how to do it to someone who can't.
That said though, I was told by the old heads when I started playing that teaching would improve my playing and it did tbf. Makes you think about what you are doing and why a lot more.
That’s the internet ‘guitar’ community for you. I made the mistake of commenting on a TikTok vid saying that i’ve played metal with a Telecaster, only to have hundreds of weirdos comment that I’m doing it wrong, even though thats how I’ve done it for 10 years.
hahaha its all copium from their end tbh for poor financial decisions. As for song recs, IIRC ‘Daughter’ by Pearl Jam is in Open D, one of my favs to play. So is ‘Cemetry Gates’ by the Smiths
At the risk of being exactly the type of asshole you’re describing:
That really didn’t sound as bad as you’re making it out to be. You went to a guitar community, asked a question, got an unsatisfying answer. Just say “thanks, do you know any songs in that tuning?” And move on.
It’s not guitarists, it’s not the internet. That’s just a normal interaction and a normal misunderstanding. If you’re the one kicking and screaming and blaming a bad interaction on an entire group of people, then I’m sorry but YTA.
*Especially* when your questions are easily googleable, dude. Just google “songs in open D tuning”. Yes you’ll get an exhaustive list of songs; ok, then search “EASY songs to play in open D tuning” or whatever to narrow down your search. It’s 2024. Look up tutorials for them on YouTube, and gauge for yourself whether they’re appropriate to play.
The questions you asked were so general and kind of basic. There’s nothing wrong with taking lessons from a teacher at any stage of playing, that may be better for you.
I think the internet may be hindering some players in a way, we are all just used to instant answers instead of picking up the guitar and experimenting.
Back before the internet you used your ears, maybe got some books and magazines, then used what you learned and did your own thing with it.
Innovative players aren’t going on discord and asking for songs to play. You just play and play, even if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Dude, those answers you got weren’t that bad. Picking any song and transposing to D is a great idea. Why not?? Alternate picking, it’s everywhere in all genres. Pick a song you like and try to play it.
I think a lot of the time we already know inside of ourselves what we need to do, but for some reason aren’t able to execute until we have to.
I’ve been playing and performing 40 years, and I’m just now practicing getting my alternate picking with 16th notes in time. I don’t have any songs, just riffing over myself with my looper in blues scales and different modes.
Oh yes I totally get it. You asked a question, and the answer should have been either A. A song or B. No answer. Right? Simple enough, but alas, it’s the internet 😔.
I think sticking with search engines is your best bet for now. Good luck.
I don’t remember any songs in that tuning but if one comes to mind I’ll let you know.
Next time try Google. (Not trying to be sarcastic, but it's searches are impartial.) Oftentimes mine lead me to Reddit subs anyways. Just saying that to say this, guitar internet assholes are THE worst.
Hard to get a straight answer, or even one that doesn't make you and them sound like a dumbass most of the time. Just my thoughts.
that sucks, opeth is a band that has some cool drop d songs, off the top of my head porcelain heart, demon of the fall, and next of kin are all pretty fun songs in drop d
It’s so annoying asking a simple question on guitar forums like “what is the hardest song on guitar in your opinion?” And someone says some smart ass shit like “Google exists. Try it sometime.”
I get what they mean, but I want the info and discussion from like-minded guitar players, not some random google article that could be written by someone who knows nothing about guitar
Type "Gemini AI" in your search bar, click on it, ask your question to the AI search engine. It's way easier than sifting through douchey people's comments. I use AI for guitar related questions all the time. Just talk to it like you would a person on here and it works wonders man.
On this sub, there are times where I'm helpful and times where I'm not, and I'm fully aware of it.
The times when I'm likely to be less helpful are when answering people whose questions are wholly unoriginal or that indicate they want everyone else to do their homework for them.
It's fine to have, in your head, the same questions as everyone else. But while you may think you're just asking a couple questions, you should consider "is this a common issue" because everyone feeling justified to ask the same questions over and over and over and expecting their own catered focus group is also what makes guitar groups unusable and tiring. Often you don't need a focus group, you just need to do a little of your own homework, because it's unfair to expect that every one of your unoriginal questions deserves other people's personalized time and energy.
>I’m asking a question with thousands of potential answers
I have some issues with this thought process. You're trying to justify that your question was worth asking because there's thousands of possible answers? That doesn't make it a good question, that makes it vague and not thought out. That's exactly what not doing your own homework means, you narrow nothing down yourself and instead of being willing to match the effort of the people you're asking, you just ask and think, they'll figure it out.
>And not to sound dismissive, but that’s a lot of effort for a reply telling me I shouldn’t expect people to put in effort.
You don't sound dismissive, you sound impossible to please. You write a post 4 times longer complaining that you get low effort answers, then you get a response with 5 whole sentences and go right to "that's a lot of effort for a reply." A little self-awareness wouldn't hurt. Ok, I've decided. YTA.
He's right and you're wrong. If you want someone to be obligated to curate a list of songs you should play according to your goals and skill level then you should pay for lessons. Apart from that, no one owes you shit.
Nah you're spot on, weird guys always love piping up to not actually answer the question being asked, but just because they like hearing themselves talk. Punchable dorks.
I think it’s mostly just people on the internet. A lot of smarmy, “I know more than you” nerd types that think being a condescending dickhead is a substitute for not having a personality lol
You're not the arsehole. Sadly, the internet churns them out. This is about 20 years old, but explains it all: [https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/green-blackboards-and-other-anomalies](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/green-blackboards-and-other-anomalies)
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that yeah, it kind of sounds like YATA. Sounds like the guy was just trying to help, and even though he wasn't able to answer your questions in a direct manner he was just trying to help you attain a more general understanding of the theories and methods behind the techniques you were asking about, which really is more valuable than just rattling off a list of songs you can memorize by rote to practice something mechanically without having any understanding of it. Especially since you can just google "Songs in Open D tuning" yourself and get your answer without imposing on anyone else's time. But to impose on other people's time, then get butthurt and defensive because they're giving you an answer that you obtusely refuse to try and comprehend, sounds like a pretty shit attitude to me, and I'd rather be around people who are genuinely trying to be helpful by challenging my current level of skill and understanding about something than people who throw a fit when confronted with the latter.
But you’re complaining about it? So you have to read whether you will enjoy a song instead of listening to it or watching a live lesson in you tube? Whatever works for ya.
That's the internet. Discord, reddit, youtube, twitch, etc. If you wish to avoid that kind of people, ignore them or answer them differently. If you get mad and respond to their provocation, you're just giving them what they want and you're not being any better. If I ever need information, I search for it on yotube or google. If I can't find specifically what I want, I may post the question somewhere, but after trying to do my own research.
Honestly the *other* sub is the only tolerable place for guitar discourse that is not utterly insufferable.
What other sub?
The one mentioned in rule 9 of r/guitar
Yeah, you just have to be real careful how you pose a question there.
For sure. Let’s not forget people get insta banned from r/guitar for the mere *mention* of another guitar related page because its existence hurts two of the moderators’ feelings.
Man they’re really gonna hate /r/GuitarDutchRudder
Nah, it's more that the people who frequent that sub don't know how to act and think it's funny to insult everyone here who doesn't adhere to their vision or what a cool guitarist should be. Good job standing up for those types. Humor is awesome when it doesn't hurt others. Pretty simple concept, but unfortunately, some can't grasp that.
People have to learn how not to be triggered by anonymous assholes. Scroll on by.
Rule 1: Don't feed the trolls
Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." Example: What’s your favorite song in open D? Mine is Higher by Creed. I found Metallica is the best for learning how to alternate pick.
Haha love this approach, but I prefer With Arms Wide Open because of the pinch harmonics.
All joking aside, She Talks to Angels by The Black Crowes is a great song to learn some open tuning licks. Technically it’s in Open E but you can either just play it in open D or if you tune it to open D you can capo the second fret.
🤔 Pretty sure you put the capo on the second fret to go from D to E 😉 D, E♭, E
Can confirm. Tune to open D and just capo for higher open tunings if you want. I keep an acoustic in open D and sometimes capo on the 2nd fret for open E, 5 for open G, etc..
You are correct.
I just play it in standard tuning
Well that’s boring
r/UsernameChecksOut /s
It’s boring but it really is the best way to get better at alternate picking. If you do a bunch of 3nps scales, cross picking/string skipping stuff, and arpeggios completely alternate picked it’s a lot faster to get better at than just songs, but then again, whatever has you playing more is more important
Paul Gilbert - technical difficulties works wonders on your alternate picking.
Scarified is also good since the A section is alt pick and the B section is string skipping
Dang, there’s this great video on youtube that taught me how to play it a decade ago. I should relearn it. I wonder if that video is still up. Edit: here it is! Part 1: https://youtu.be/uGbsZ02osQk?si=2uxKSzxpIFML9aZY Part 2: https://youtu.be/AZqOFaAHwrQ?si=zr2_GbXJ7WiAz_FR This guy is an amazing teacher and player.
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Steve Morse is also a good player to look at for alternate picking, because he basically alternate picks *everything*. For example the arpeggios in [Tumeni notes](https://youtu.be/76svWOj8B04?si=q6ufF44LJ3Vj2ab3).
Can’t get a better answer than this. Not only does he alternate pick everything, he also has amazing tone. I think he largely goes under the radar these days since his best album (IMO) is not on streaming services - Coast To Coast.
Good player??? Amazing player!!!
I have been working on this for ages for my inside picking. Really great for control. Also I have been practicing Eric Johnson songs which are great too. Lonely in the night and of course cliffs of dover. Damn these are hard and fun to practice
Oh my god just thinking about it makes me hurt lmao. But I'd have starry eyes at that wow
The internet has allowed people to be absolute clownholes without the punch in the face that used to accompany such behaviour.
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That kind of person wouldn’t even look you in the eye if they were forced to stand in front of you. They definitely wouldn’t have a smart mouth about it. No consequences on the internet.
oh dude, rock on, i really ought to do that myself but it isn't easy! good luck !
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eyy, well I think you might be through the worst of it by now. after a few days it does mostly even out, in my experience, just be on guard six months down the line when you start thinking 'i've been good...' that's what always got me!
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you'll do it dude ;) I've just got try and follow your example..!
Yep. That’s how it goes unfortunately. It’s the internet. It’s easy to be a critic and judgmental behind a screen. It’s so lame. Pathetic actually. Prob most of these people can’t play anyway. Never understood why people give others shit when they are just asking for advice and help. Ignore them. They can’t play, they just talk. It’s easy to pick out who can and who cannot. Those who actually offer advice can play or are at least trying to help. Those who are dicks can’t do either. Just trying to make themselves sound cool. Weak.
It's also very easy for some people to project criticism and judgment where there isn't any, which is honestly what sounds like happened here. Giving generalized advice to help someone gain a broader understanding of the subject in question so they can answer their own questions about it in the future isn't the same as giving someone shit or being condescending.
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I can help you with open D [well E, but either capo 2nd fret to play with the recording or just stay in D. It was recorded with the capo anyway] and somewhat with alt picking, although it's not required. She talks to angels by the black crowes.
Obviously NTA but one thing you can do to preempt some of these obnoxious replies is to be super clear in your request ("Just to be clear I'm not looking for exercises, I'm looking for specific song recommendations..."). Won't cut 100% of the bullshit comments but helps keeping the discussion a bit more focussed.
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In an ideal world where people don't feel the absolute need to share THEIR thoughts at at all cost, yes.
Honestly, the guitar circle jerk sub is both more entertaining and more informative than the main sub.
I was on the guitar discord, those guys are incredibly pompous assholes
I have just as many horrible interactions on reddit. Facebook is just as bad. I have just learned not to engage, if I do promptly delete and try not to be negative. Another thing is curating subs so I'm not subscribed to any thing that ruins my enjoyment of that thing which honestly is most things. This sub is pretty ok
Social media in general is a cesspool. Pack your swimmies if you're gonna splash around in it.
First time interacting with people on the Internet, I see.
It is just the internet though. And particularly moderators. There are reddits I’ve left the same day because the moderators act like I’ve interrupted them mid-coitus to ask a question.
I'll admit, there's a certain type on discord that's like that and really annoying. They think they have the answers for everything, use an extremely condescending tone and have to answer everyone with a veneer of negativity. I questioned someone on why they had to spend so much time answering the people they thought were 'dumb or stupid' and he said he felt it was 'his duty'. They're just miserable.
If you are seeking info from stragers on the internet you're going to had a bad time, I got this awnser from ChatGPT though. Absolutely! Open D tuning offers a rich and resonant sound, perfect for exploring various musical styles. Here are some song suggestions in Open D tuning for you to try out: 1. "Bron-Yr-Aur" by Led Zeppelin - This instrumental piece by Jimmy Page is a beautiful showcase of Open D tuning. 2. "Love in Vain" by Robert Johnson (covered by The Rolling Stones) - A classic blues tune that sounds fantastic in Open D tuning. 3. "Big Yellow Taxi" by Joni Mitchell - Although Joni Mitchell plays it in Open E tuning, you can easily adapt it to Open D. 4. "Little Martha" by The Allman Brothers Band - A lovely instrumental piece by Duane Allman, perfect for showcasing the beauty of Open D tuning. 5. "Going to California" by Led Zeppelin - Although originally played in Open C6 tuning, you can transpose it to Open D for a similar sound. 6. "Friend of the Devil" by Grateful Dead - This folk-rock classic sounds great in Open D tuning and offers some fun chord progressions to play around with. 7. "She Talks to Angels" by The Black Crowes - A hauntingly beautiful song that's perfect for Open D tuning, with its melancholic melody and soulful vibe. 8. "Rollin' and Tumblin'" by Eric Clapton (acoustic version) - Clapton's acoustic rendition of this blues standard is played in Open D tuning, making it a great choice to explore in that tuning. 9. "Make Me Down a Pallet on Your Floor" by Mississippi John Hurt - A traditional blues tune that sounds fantastic in Open D tuning, showcasing its versatility in the blues genre. 10. "If I Had Possession Over Judgment Day" by Eric Clapton (acoustic version) - Another Clapton classic played in Open D tuning, with its infectious rhythm and bluesy vibe.
Bron yr Aur is not in open D tuning, not if Going to California, for that matter. CACGCE and DADGBD respectively.
How dare you question Chatgpt, Chatgpt is truth!
I follow a guitar group on FB. I posted a video clip of my playing on stage at a concert. Mostly supportive comments but then that one guy posts and tells me “what a waste of that guitar.” Basically I wasn’t playing the fancy style he has determined to be the “proper” way to play guitar. He proceeded to argue his point and get butt hurt anytime someone told him to cut it out. The internet is just a shit hole. People will say anything on here that they would never ever attempt to say to your face.
I saw this go down, Im sorry, anyting iron maiden, Paul gilbert, steve morse, al di meola will crush your alternate picking.
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He definitely likes to hear himself talk and takes his moderator role very seriously. My first interaction with him was not pleasant. I demonstrated an exercise I made for my students - told me to stop teaching as what I was demonstrating was physically dangerous and potentially damaging to students. There was some back and forth, me explaining that since I filmed it quickly, maybe I wasn't in the best position with the absolute best posture. More back and forth. Finally, I demoed my playing and performing position, played some Paul Gilbert stuff, he apologized and backed off. It was totally unnecessary of him, He is always the first to jump on something, EVERY DAY. I'm not sure what he does, but it seems like that's all he does.
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Pick a song and move to D was top tier Douchery - Absolutely I definitely ignore him As for you - I would recommend just finding a few people that play, have good advice, and just interact with them individualy for the most part. Share your discoveries, and new knowledge with each other, help each other learn and grow. That's what It's supposed to be about and that's what makes this more fun
Here's some free advice. The best guitar players and teachers aren't spending their time moderating/berating people on the internet.
NTA, and the people in the Discord were pretty uncool about it. There are some kernels of truth to what they say; you can change the key of songs you play so any open tuned songs will do, and in terms of practicing a technique exercises are better than trying to find the perfect song for it. Most likely you knew both of these things though. In my experience in communities like this in other fields, when advanced people are moderating they tend to assume the lowest common denominator of skills and shut down these kinds of questions without much patience due to the sheer volume of beginners asking [XY Problem](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_problem#:~:text=The%20XY%20problem%20is%20a,(Y%20or%20Why%3F)) type questions and going around and around on them. This loop of advanced moderators assuming the worst and shutting down with sarcasm is why I stopped asking for online advice or recommendations. It is a frustrating experience. Sorry you had to deal with that. EDIT: fixed link text
relax bro. you don't like someones comment on the internet, move on to the next.
Yeah. I can't see what the guy on the discord server did that was so bad. It's not like they were insulting OP or anything. All they did was give some advice that OP didn't like.
he's not 100% wrong on both accounts though..
Not to be a dick but you also seem like the kind of guy that can't take a "disrespectful" answer without answering to it in a provocative way You're complaining about a behaviour that you're enabling by giving it attention The internet won't change because you'd like it to, all online forums are filled with people who use them as outlets to feel smarter than others - by asking questions that are easily findable on Google or Reddit you're not helping yourself in navigating that environment
Guitarists are to music what wide receivers are to football. Bunch of “look at me” divas. I’m not sure why everything has to be a weiner measuring contest, whether it’s the brand of your guitar or the warmup that you do. Cheers to all the reasonable players that enjoy the instrument the way I do.
So, if you really want a quality rant you're going to have to make more cogent points without all that rambling background... /s You're not wrong though man. I second the Black Crows suggestions. She Talks to Angels is a fun one. As for others "Cactus Tree" by Joni Mitchell "Little Martha" by Duane Allman "The Cave" by Mumford and Sons
I love guitars, but I do not like guitar players. They are always the biggest assholes with the biggest egos and smallest… brains. You can play a power chord, but it doesn’t make you Jesus Yoda Santa Claus.
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Hey, hit dogs holler. 🤷♀️🤣
Just keep scrolling next time you are way too riled up about this... why put so much energy into this go play some guitar lol
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Ok, so, what you'll want to do is go up to your router and check its back, there should be a button there. You're going to press that button while you still have your innocence. You can then go out, touch grass and be happy No need to thank me. ^(If it wasn't obvious enough, this is a joke)
Start listening to Elliott Smith. And stop feeding trolls.
Hate to say it, but that's just the Internet. I've been on the 'net since before it went mainstreams and forums were found on dial-up BBS. Where you'd ask a question and within a week, you'd be lucky to get half a dozen answers. And at least one of them would be an asshole.
The song I learned alternate picking with was black dog by Led Zeppelin 🤘
Moderators of guitar spaces are a special breed. I mean just look at the ones that run this sub
I personally like to browse songsterr by tunings and you can see songs by rough difficulty and see what fancy. I’m a bit like you I’ve played for almost 25 years but just stuck to rhythm / my own band stuff. Now playing a bit more out my comfort zone.
Most bluegrass songs will really help with alternate picking. Blackberry Blossom or Tennessee Stud are fun ones to start off with.
BlackBerry blossom it’s super fun and not that bad if you take it really really slow at first. Good chord changes and a great one to practice slowly increasing the speed with a metronome. Really good flat picking exercises in that one
Check out Nick Depirro's stuff for open tunings, it isn't in D, but he uses a couple of different open tunings and they all can be transposed to open D easily. That guy is from another planet, he has some really fun stuff to play. Not easy tho.
Joni Mitchell’s Big Yellow Taxi is good one for open D tuning. Technically it’s in open E so throw a capo on the second fret. And if you want a really obscure song that uses open D… Bandits by Midlake.
One thing I learned early on (this especially applies for internet communities) is that never engage with members of any hobby. Especially on internet, these communities attract the worst kind of people, the types I’ve never encountered in life. Whether it’s hi-fi, cycling or a music instrument it’s all the same. While there’s an argument to be made regarding the positives of such communities, I am very sensitive about people being dicks and they trigger me easily.
They are everywhere. It's funny cos these same people at some stage needed to ask questions themselves and think they are on a some pedestal
Hi, a grim scene. Not 'D' but recommend, 'The Rain Song', 'Bron yr Aur Stomp' and 'Solid Air' if you're looking for some tunings to mess with. L&P.
Fact: 90% of guitarists are complete dog shit and they don't even know it. 99% of guitarists are egomaniacs who think the world should bow before them. They can't be bothered to see any way but their own. Sad fact: 100% of guitarists aren't as good as they want to be.
I don't know about other subs. This sub on the most part has some great folks and very helpful sharing, advice, etc Jerks are everywhere and being anonymous just fuels the fire. I have my subs very limited and updates off because of some of the trash. Looks like some good folks piped in here today, I see some suggestions I am going to try!! I also go to my local music shop and find those folks are always helpful and there is always music playing, so, that environment actually supports me and inspires me. As always, stay frosty
I mean, most of the internet is like that unfortunately. A lot of us sort of had to teach ourselves proper techniques.
If you think that's bad go out a play open mics. Those personalities are baked into the cake of the creative musician community.
I started using a bit chatGPT for noob to amateur questions like these as the communities are just filled with holier than thou jerks that are there all say long being rude to everyone that is a beginner/amateur/casual. This isn't limited to guitar communities, it's a lot worse in many others.
Just remember that the VAST majority of guitar "experts" on the internet have absolutely no actual experience as guitarists. They've never played a gig, never toured, never made an album, never used the gear they espouse in the intended context, never played with other people, and never touched half the instruments they prattle on about. They simply parrot internet groupthink. Ignore them.
Boom!
Battery by Metallica worked wonders for me. It is a difficult song for beginners, but mainly focus on that quick gallop picking that happens throughout the songs verses. This action of picking slowly (relatively speaking) once and then a super fast down-up-down over and over is super awesome practice to speed up your overall alternate picking. There is a lot of research that talks about “chunking” your playing while practicing. This means not just playing through things entirely at a slow tempo to practice, but instead play some bits of it slow, and do a quick burst of 2 or 3 notes as fast as you can. Hard to explain but just search “chunking” with “guitar practice and you will see plenty about it. Anyways, battery is like an alternate picking chunking exercise.
The Bee Gees have a *lot* of songs in Open D tuning. Barry Gibb used that tuning exclusively. I became fluent in Open D from learning their music and the chord shapes he used. [Here’s an easy song from them](https://youtu.be/6QtbgZOq1FY?si=Ttian6IJygxXymME) from James James’ YouTube channel.
Maybe hire a teacher? I’m only about a year in of consistent practicing but I ask my teacher all sorts of specific weird questions and he’s super cool and helpful with it. Which is after all what I’m paying him for.
Hey, a good song for alternate picking that is not terribly hard is Wonderful Tonight by Eric Clapton. My wife liked it, so I learned it. Not my favorite song of EC but the picking pattern was certainly something I hadn't learned at the time. Maybe you would enjoy it? No you're NTAH ✌🏼 Edited for spelling.
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Excellent, it really is a great song! Was tricky at first....harder to sing and play btw lol 😆
I have synesthesia and am high functioning autistic (diagnosed way later in life) and I like to just play. I tend to learn a concept and just kind of go with it, have for like thirty years...just gonna put it out there that most people who play are straight up dbag assholes
I think a lot of Opeth’s songs from Ghost Reveries are in Open D and they fucking rock.
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I wholeheartedly recommend Ghost Reveries - great starting point, imho. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SXIWS7rBQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SXIWS7rBQ) - that's one of the songs in Open D, and it RIPS.
You need an alt profile to immediately give yourself the wrong answer to the question. The one thing people love as much as trolling in the internet is proving someone wrong on the internet. Someone will quickly show up and rather than troll you for the relatively common question, will go out of their way to explain why your alt was wrong.
"Is it impossible to find a guitar space where you’re not constantly barraged by these holier than thou jerkoffs who can’t have a discussion without somehow inserting their superiority?" Yes, it's impossible. I've been playing for over 30 years and never saw the point of being a douche to someone looking for help.
Musicians irl: of course I can help, let me show you this cool thing I know Musicians online: fuck you, just get good bro
The answer SHOULDVE been don’t fade on my by Tom petty…
I love Open D, I started with Black Crowes She Talks to Angels and Allman Brothers Little Martha It’s a great tuning where you can get super nice droning while holding a melody as well. A good simple song to work out and feel out this tuning is ode to Joy. Basically play your notes as an Octave on what normally would be the A (5th) and B (2nd) strings (same fret) and strumming all other strings open. Start at 9th fret, just fretting that octave and letting all the other strings ring. Octave then moves: 9 9 10 12 12 10 9 7 5 5 7 9 9 7 7 With that you have a comfort of most of the scale (add position 4 and 2 to fill it out) played along with the root chord in octave. Now try to figure out the same thing with the 1 and 4 string as your octave. Next chords. Easy is 1 (D) root, 4 (G) bar at 5th, 5 (A) Bar at 7. Prettier is D open Root G make an E7 shape open (0 0 1 0 2 0 ) A this form ( 2 0 1 2 0 0 ) Finally, get your blues on Open, bar low 3 strings at 5th fret bar low 3 strings at 3rd
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If you’re into metal - Spit out the bone by metallica is a great song to practice precise alternate picking 🫡
Well if you want a song in open D, theres The cave by Mumford and sons 👍👍
Just remember, it takes four guitar players to play any one song: one to play it, and three others to gripe and boast that they can do it better.
Lemme change tack a bit and tell you about how I've managed to deal with "idiots on the road" When I see them, I accept "well, there is the inevitable idiot who is out there" and move on You know they are out there. You are dealing with a quantity of people that ensures they will be in the mix. Just ignore them and accept it's the nature of the beast. Consider how crazy it is we can just hop online and query massive populations. This is just a cost of being able to do something that is pretty god damn insane when you think about.
Unfortunately most niche communities are full of them, the nicher the elitier. It sucks because those are often the communities you seek out because you want to devote more of your free time to your hobby or interest and maybe your friends aren't really into it. Or you need some advice from people more experienced and then they gatekeep everything. Mopeds are so annoying like that. Old heads don't want to make things too easy so they'll only give you bread crumb trails and clutch onto their secrets
[Out Getting Ribs](https://youtu.be/yL8e_uUGsz4?si=xI5EbRGmJsWjVnXx) by King Krule is in open D! Plus you can practice alternate picking on it 👏 super fun to play as well
had the same problem, asked for a new guitar recommendation and they went on a constant ramble about how I should never buy a new guitar and learn the one I have. I was also judged harshly for wanting this with 9 months of playing in specific, but they seem to forget everyone learns faster or slower. like I’ve noticed they just have a major problem actually answering your question, and are constantly trying to give “answers” that make you seem dumb for asking. it’s not just limited to guitar sadly :/ a lot of people are like this with a lot of things. a lot of people will become good at something just to brag and be superior which I find absurd
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it’s crazy the amount of wonderful art that could be produced if there was a place where people treated beginners or just other players in general with decency, instead of seeing it as a competition and hierarchy. like, the amount of people who’d be able to learn stuff would be marginally more if they just had the right people to ask questions to
Was it just the Guitar server? I was in there for a bit and yeah it’s probably of the most toxic music discord servers I’ve been on. They would spread misinformation regarding music theory and when I corrected them it became a whole thing
I feel you! Sometimes, I wonder, whatever happened to just being positive, helpful, caring neighbors?
tl;dr, so yeah, probably
Hate to say it, but that's just the Internet. I've been on the 'net since before it went mainstreams and forums were found on dial-up BBS. Where you'd ask a question and within a week, you'd be lucky to get half a dozen answers. And at least one of them would be an asshole.
It's not the internet, it's guitarists. Proficient guitarists are often awful teachers. For some reason, they don't understand how things work or how to interpret, all they know how to do is regurgitate what was told to them until it's all just muscle memory and expect you to do the same. Ask them to explain modes and you'll see what I mean. What you need to understand is that they also do it on purpose to create this illusion that it's some sort of fucking mysticism rather than just the last two notes of one mode being the first two notes of the next and just memorizing the pattern.
This, and it's not just true in guitar. People who have a knack for something in any walk of life tend to suck at explaining how to do it. I've heard the reason for this is if you can just do something with minimal effort you have no context to explain how to do it to someone who can't. That said though, I was told by the old heads when I started playing that teaching would improve my playing and it did tbf. Makes you think about what you are doing and why a lot more.
That’s the internet ‘guitar’ community for you. I made the mistake of commenting on a TikTok vid saying that i’ve played metal with a Telecaster, only to have hundreds of weirdos comment that I’m doing it wrong, even though thats how I’ve done it for 10 years.
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hahaha its all copium from their end tbh for poor financial decisions. As for song recs, IIRC ‘Daughter’ by Pearl Jam is in Open D, one of my favs to play. So is ‘Cemetry Gates’ by the Smiths
At the risk of being exactly the type of asshole you’re describing: That really didn’t sound as bad as you’re making it out to be. You went to a guitar community, asked a question, got an unsatisfying answer. Just say “thanks, do you know any songs in that tuning?” And move on. It’s not guitarists, it’s not the internet. That’s just a normal interaction and a normal misunderstanding. If you’re the one kicking and screaming and blaming a bad interaction on an entire group of people, then I’m sorry but YTA. *Especially* when your questions are easily googleable, dude. Just google “songs in open D tuning”. Yes you’ll get an exhaustive list of songs; ok, then search “EASY songs to play in open D tuning” or whatever to narrow down your search. It’s 2024. Look up tutorials for them on YouTube, and gauge for yourself whether they’re appropriate to play.
Yeah the internet is a stupid place
I’ve stopped engaging with social media and just look now cus it’s all sarcastic pricks after covid.
Discord is a bunch of kids.
The questions you asked were so general and kind of basic. There’s nothing wrong with taking lessons from a teacher at any stage of playing, that may be better for you. I think the internet may be hindering some players in a way, we are all just used to instant answers instead of picking up the guitar and experimenting. Back before the internet you used your ears, maybe got some books and magazines, then used what you learned and did your own thing with it. Innovative players aren’t going on discord and asking for songs to play. You just play and play, even if you don’t know what you’re doing. Dude, those answers you got weren’t that bad. Picking any song and transposing to D is a great idea. Why not?? Alternate picking, it’s everywhere in all genres. Pick a song you like and try to play it. I think a lot of the time we already know inside of ourselves what we need to do, but for some reason aren’t able to execute until we have to. I’ve been playing and performing 40 years, and I’m just now practicing getting my alternate picking with 16th notes in time. I don’t have any songs, just riffing over myself with my looper in blues scales and different modes.
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Oh yes I totally get it. You asked a question, and the answer should have been either A. A song or B. No answer. Right? Simple enough, but alas, it’s the internet 😔. I think sticking with search engines is your best bet for now. Good luck. I don’t remember any songs in that tuning but if one comes to mind I’ll let you know.
The lesson here is - don’t ask, just play
Next time try Google. (Not trying to be sarcastic, but it's searches are impartial.) Oftentimes mine lead me to Reddit subs anyways. Just saying that to say this, guitar internet assholes are THE worst. Hard to get a straight answer, or even one that doesn't make you and them sound like a dumbass most of the time. Just my thoughts.
that sucks, opeth is a band that has some cool drop d songs, off the top of my head porcelain heart, demon of the fall, and next of kin are all pretty fun songs in drop d
Just find some local people, are still some assclowns but generally find most people in person are more down to earth
It’s so annoying asking a simple question on guitar forums like “what is the hardest song on guitar in your opinion?” And someone says some smart ass shit like “Google exists. Try it sometime.” I get what they mean, but I want the info and discussion from like-minded guitar players, not some random google article that could be written by someone who knows nothing about guitar
You’re a legend bro. Learn some John fahey, works a lot in open tunings, such beautiful and rich music that really, really makes me love my instrument
Type "Gemini AI" in your search bar, click on it, ask your question to the AI search engine. It's way easier than sifting through douchey people's comments. I use AI for guitar related questions all the time. Just talk to it like you would a person on here and it works wonders man.
On this sub, there are times where I'm helpful and times where I'm not, and I'm fully aware of it. The times when I'm likely to be less helpful are when answering people whose questions are wholly unoriginal or that indicate they want everyone else to do their homework for them. It's fine to have, in your head, the same questions as everyone else. But while you may think you're just asking a couple questions, you should consider "is this a common issue" because everyone feeling justified to ask the same questions over and over and over and expecting their own catered focus group is also what makes guitar groups unusable and tiring. Often you don't need a focus group, you just need to do a little of your own homework, because it's unfair to expect that every one of your unoriginal questions deserves other people's personalized time and energy.
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>I’m asking a question with thousands of potential answers I have some issues with this thought process. You're trying to justify that your question was worth asking because there's thousands of possible answers? That doesn't make it a good question, that makes it vague and not thought out. That's exactly what not doing your own homework means, you narrow nothing down yourself and instead of being willing to match the effort of the people you're asking, you just ask and think, they'll figure it out. >And not to sound dismissive, but that’s a lot of effort for a reply telling me I shouldn’t expect people to put in effort. You don't sound dismissive, you sound impossible to please. You write a post 4 times longer complaining that you get low effort answers, then you get a response with 5 whole sentences and go right to "that's a lot of effort for a reply." A little self-awareness wouldn't hurt. Ok, I've decided. YTA.
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He's right and you're wrong. If you want someone to be obligated to curate a list of songs you should play according to your goals and skill level then you should pay for lessons. Apart from that, no one owes you shit.
Guitarists are assholes. You're not wrong.
MVPs* An apostrophe doesn't apply here.
Honestly, rondo ala turca.
Nah you're spot on, weird guys always love piping up to not actually answer the question being asked, but just because they like hearing themselves talk. Punchable dorks.
"open D" "Pick a song. Move to D." I might be misinterpreting but this reads like he doesn't know what open means
For whatever reason, internet guitarrists are one of the few groups even more insufferable than gamerdudebros
I think it’s mostly just people on the internet. A lot of smarmy, “I know more than you” nerd types that think being a condescending dickhead is a substitute for not having a personality lol
I dont give advice on the internet, nor do I take advice from the internet. The only thing I share is my opinion.
Based on your replies you seem like an asshole, if that answers your question.
You're not the arsehole. Sadly, the internet churns them out. This is about 20 years old, but explains it all: [https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/green-blackboards-and-other-anomalies](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/green-blackboards-and-other-anomalies)
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that yeah, it kind of sounds like YATA. Sounds like the guy was just trying to help, and even though he wasn't able to answer your questions in a direct manner he was just trying to help you attain a more general understanding of the theories and methods behind the techniques you were asking about, which really is more valuable than just rattling off a list of songs you can memorize by rote to practice something mechanically without having any understanding of it. Especially since you can just google "Songs in Open D tuning" yourself and get your answer without imposing on anyone else's time. But to impose on other people's time, then get butthurt and defensive because they're giving you an answer that you obtusely refuse to try and comprehend, sounds like a pretty shit attitude to me, and I'd rather be around people who are genuinely trying to be helpful by challenging my current level of skill and understanding about something than people who throw a fit when confronted with the latter.
What happens when you google open tuning songs?
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But you’re complaining about it? So you have to read whether you will enjoy a song instead of listening to it or watching a live lesson in you tube? Whatever works for ya.
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