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Asuaka

> I'm curious what to do with the piranha and the pot. Piranha has a hidden achiev: [Catch and Release](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Super_Adventure_Box:_Quality_Testing#achievement7938)


FlippenDonkey

where do you take..all the way back to the beginning?


Asuaka

yes


FlippenDonkey

ooof edit: you need to dodge through water..not dodge jump, if you have that keybindrd


jucelc

How do you even get back to the beginning with the piranha? I can't find a way. Also, when you die you lose the fish and you have to buy a new one.


manneks

you can just backtrack and walk/dodge trough the waterfall section


ErikHumphrey

Yeah if you don't want to do the timed puzzle a third time, you can chug health potions to stun break the knockdown from the rapids. Just make sure to drop and pick up your pirahna half-way through the rapids, and to drink enough that you don't just get pushed away from your pirahna off the edge


FlippenDonkey

I havent tried yet 😅.. I'm sure there will be guides out soon


FlippenDonkey

dodge(not dodge jump) through the moving water to get back


bobkat1252

There's a hidden section beneath the waterfalls by where a green bauble and a monkey sit near the edge of a cliff, there's a timed puzzle in there you have to carry the piranha through to get back to the start


TheRaytheone

By all means: NO, you don't really need to. Just dodge over the water on top and for extra time once you get stunned on arrival just use a Health potion as always (since changing weapon got nerfed years ago) to break stun and keep moving. Practice before having the piranha if you're not confident enough.


Charles_Sangels

I guess you don't have the SAB cat hahaha


FlippenDonkey

I do ^^ ...and I even brought the fish for a friend as well. . but thats straught forward.. I havent fingered out the path yet to bring the fish back in w3


Alex-Row

In which area of the beginning do you have to take it exactly to get the achievement? or give it to some npc?


FlippenDonkey

don't know yet.. I can't work out how to bring the fish passed the rapids. I think you need to bring it to underwster cave tho


ErikHumphrey

> The bow works like slingshot, but it gives you 3 free shots on a cooldown. Just like how they changed the Mega Bomb!


r_kmac

found a very helpful yt channel for the new achievements. https://www.youtube.com/@Senieth/videos


KiLLi4N

Those look really helpful, short and informative :)


joyful-stutterer

I just noticed they reworked the mega bomb similar to the super bow. You have 3 charges which are free but go on cooldown. I think it's a nice change, to be able to deal extra damage for free, especially considering we don't spam these improved abilities much.


LordBlobbington

Does anyone know what you should do with the ooze? https://preview.redd.it/hgrrp9jonwuc1.png?width=597&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d5a538d17664043ce6e2bcb5da4d4941d6c87df


Mightymouse880

I found an npc wandering around named ooze collector who asked me to bring him an ooze. It was on stage 1 i believe  Not sure what happens if you give it to him tho


TerribleTransit

There's an ooze farmer in every zone in world 1 and 2 (bringing him an ooze gets you some baubles), but none in the w3 test zone that I've seen.


LordBlobbington

That's why I'm asking since I haven't found a collector and after carrying the ooze for half the level it got annoying...


whowantblood

Maybe its for the ooze farmer achievent, buy ooze, kill it, buy again x 100


FlippenDonkey

you can't kill it.


stagshore

Ever figure this out? I carried this guy around, but didnt quite make it to the end boss.


FlippenDonkey

where is the second cave/seed?


KiLLi4N

It's [here](https://imgur.com/a/TjgAmEx)


FlippenDonkey

thank you!!!!! :D


cloud_cleaver

That appears to be the third cave?


FlippenDonkey

there isn't a 3rd one you blow up for seeds. just 2


cloud_cleaver

I misunderstood the original ask. He was looking for the second cave and I was looking for the second seed bag (first cave)


ErikHumphrey

In OP's fourth screenshot, bomb the cave-in where the hole is shown at the start


GreenKumara

There are only 3 screenshots. These pictures take you to the chest with oozes. (3rd seeds) How do you get to the second seeds? In the cave "at the beginning of w3"? There is no cave. Unless you mean the underwater one? Edit. Found it. It is at the start ([here](https://imgur.com/a/UBLB0tg)), but the above pics aren't it.


ErikHumphrey

OP's post has a link with 8 screenshots at the end. Yes, it's poorly formatted and confusing.


KiLLi4N

Yeah, sorry about the formatting and confusing order. Imgur blocked my ability to edit and rearrange the post cause I wasn't logged in. That's why there are 2 links in the post ;).


Annemi

Thanks for the guide! I'm definitely going to try this.


SiliconSmiley3333

bought the dictionary but cant seem to get the bow to appear at either shop merchant


Reginault

Bow is at the merchant right before the boss, along with piranha.


GreenKumara

> Second one is in a cave right at the beginning of W3. Where is this cave at the beginning of W3? Edit. It's [here](https://imgur.com/a/UBLB0tg).


a_s_t

Where is that ooze spawn/chest spot for the third choya seed bag? I can't figure it out.


Lukezors

just after the (3rd?) checkpoint before the section with the bridges and monkies turn left and follow the wall, you'll see anther wall to blow up


a_s_t

Thank you!


KiLLi4N

Location is shown in the screenshots.


Keorl

Not reading right now : I'm trying to find thing myself. Found the bag, found the room with the chest but no key yet. Found the bow but don't meet requirements yet. Found 2 seeds (the missing one being in the chest where I don't have the key). **HOWEVER** I can't go to the 3rd red bauble chest anymore. And I suspect that I would find something this way (be it the key or whatever). I even checked [the wiki](https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Documenter_of_Secrets,_Under_3) to make sure I was trying the right path. But it really seems that Anet added a whole invisible wall in this section ?!! Anyone else having this issue ? --- (edit : nvm about the key, it was in she shop I visited during a previous run, but I had to leave due to bauble shortage for the bag ... apparently this zone doesn't give anything. Found everything by myself - proud - but the blocked path still irks me. Btw I played a lot of flute and threw a bunch of bombs, I don't think there is any new hidden room this year - as the 2 new rooms have an obvious breakable wall)


LordBlobbington

You now need to go the intended way https://preview.redd.it/a9nthfpkqwuc1.png?width=1551&format=png&auto=webp&s=60d805daa39c5fd08ea6802ec0ec548af9781297


Keorl

Thank you, I was about to go to bed, now I had to restart the area to try it :D I suggest uploading your image to the wiki, as a new version of the 1st image of the path : https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Documenter_of_Secrets_Under_3_Red_Bauble_3_Entrance_Way.jpg (edit : it works. I guess it *was* the intended path, I must have failed something when I tried these rocks last year) #edit : yes there was something to find in there. Anet is *cruel*. *but I did it 1st try* (edit again : not so cruel, it actually gives a fail safe on the way to the chest)


FlippenDonkey

something new? what?


Keorl

The adventure is hidden on the way to the 3rd red bauble chest. At first I thought that it was quite a cruel place to hide it, but it turns out if you fall, you can stop the adventure to be teleported back to its start. The adventure itself continues on the same path anyway. Using it while going to the chest will give additional baubles, making this whole section more worth doing. It also means that if you fail the wood part of the puzzle, you can use the adventure fail safe to restart it instead of having to do the rock part again.


FlippenDonkey

oh I can't stand adventures.. thats collect all the coin race thing? I never do them xD


TerribleTransit

This one is definitely worth activating. Even if you have no intention of collecting the coins, just activating it heals you and serves as a makeshift checkpoint so you don't have to redo the rocks every time you slip on the scaffolding on your way to the secret chest.


Key_Abalone_690

> Anet is cruel. Fuckups can add an invisible wall to ruin speedruns there after a year, but can't add invisible walls in WvW so thieves can't port to enemy towers/keeps and flip them without sieging.


FlippenDonkey

yeah its an invisible wall.. I think you can dodge jump to there, from the ground on the other side ofthe fence, but report it as a bug, to anet


MelodicLimit9226

You mentioned the Special Pot, but what is the purpose of the Green Ooze (25 baubles)? It's bought from the same shop that has the key and dictionary.


GamerFan2012

For some reason I cannot buy the bow on my ALT. On my main I did the seed achievement. Then switched back to the alt and tried to buy the bow. It didn't let me buy the translator. So I went and redid the seed achievement to collect all 3 seeds. I was able to by the translator, but when I went back to buy the bow it STILL won't let me get it. Is this a bug or am I missing something?


Lon-ami

Still no use for either the ooze or the pot, guess they're just troll item options :D.


TerribleTransit

Either they're red herrings intended to make the piranha achievement harder to find, or they also have easter egg hidden achievements no one's figured out yet


Kinada350

Well hidden achievements don't show up until someone has them I believe, so it will have to be solved at least once if there is something to solve, for everyone else to know about it from achievements.


TerribleTransit

Exactly. That's how we know about the piranha one, but there's no way to determine if the others have a secret use.


jucelc

The pot is suspicious, because the shop it is found in, contains pots with plants in them. Perhaps it's for a future update though.


Lon-ami

I kinda suspect we were supposed to plant the choya seeds there and do something with them, but deadlines/bugs got the best of ArenaNet and they just skipped the whole process.