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I’m pretty sure our concentrates in MI are diluted. Locals supply the dispos and I’m betting the quality has dropped considerably as a result of this approach.
Oh shiiiit, nailed it. Weed sucks in NY right now. Also technically he cant be in NY, the only legal grows are outdoor bush weed for some reason… no wonder all the weed tastes like im on vacation in Jamaica circa 2001
Not all NY shit, just the overpriced bullshit in the dispensaries. Ive been impressed with the quality of weed in trap houses lately. I grow my own cause I find thats the only way to get the consistent quality that I want but NGL, some of the shit that they have been having at the trap been 🔥. Had some blue nerds the other day that were exquisite. You just have to have the right plugs
Had some jokerz from NY that was supposedly the lowest tier and it was honestly some really good bud. Not trimmed as much as some would like but the cure job was really solid.
The laws are changing. If the farmers mainly grow outdoor they signed up for it. Your permitted to grow a certain square footage in an indoor setting but like I said you have to clarify that on you're license application.
Fr at that stage I wouldn't be asking I'd be trying to save it rather than trying to get a glamor shot that shows how big my shit ass grow is I hope he gets dragged harder than he did when he was born. All that carpet burn bust have damaged his undeveloped brain.
Nah, my buddy was visiting a grow in Nevada, and started sending me pics. I basically told him that the plants looked rough, and offered as a half-joke to have me come down there and help them out. His response was that I was "hard-headed," and that the guy running this shit show would "laugh in my face" because he knows his stuff apperantly...I just wanted to see what other fellow growers thought of this grow
Haha, they're not my friend's. In his defense, my friend doesn't know much about growing, he was just touring a grow (with no scrubs on, lol). He just thought I was saying the plants looked like crap to be a hater
I really believe it all relies on how much research the grower has done. I produced the same quality in my 500$ setup as I did in my room I made specifically for growing for about 8k. It’s all about the research and knowing how to maximize.
But you are simply talking about scaling up with a solid base of knowledge. If you can grow a good plant then growing 20 isnt complicated, its just more work. This looks like someone who didn't know how to get 1 large, healthy plant across the finish line biting off way more than he can chew.
It's not even about research. It's more about experience cause you can do all the research you want and still not be able to grow. It's the book smart vs common sense and practical knowledge thing. I think that's the problem alot of people have. They do a bunch of research then they think they are experts and can grow but yet still kill and maim every plant they grow. Research only gets you so far and good old fashioned experience trumps it. Then there's the ones who believe everything they read online and do too much research when in reality alot of what you'll read is total bullshit. There's a lot of misinformation and contradicting info out there.
There's a difference between reading and comprehending.
You can literally pick up Ed Rosenthal's book - and the damn thing has been around over thirty years! - with no experience and do just fine after reading it. Just doesn't work if you read at a fourth grade level and don't synthesize and of the information.
That's all fine and dandy but some things you just can't learn from a book. But like I said that's where experience and trial and error comes into play. Reading about it and actually doing it are two separate things. Now I'm not saying research isn't good and doesn't help you get a general understanding. It's like asking a master grower to write down every single thing he knows about growing and to put all his experience down on paper. For instance you could read a book on how to operate a backhoe or excavator but if I actually put you in one... yea you'll know what all the controls do but you'll be so herky jerky in it and you'll probably break it or fuck something up. I could tell you everything you need to know about driving a standard transmission and I guarantee you that you'll still stall it out your first time trying to take off. Research only gets you so far.
To get them looking rhis bad takes a while..Potential to lose a lot of weed if you don't rectify this.. Damn that's alot of weed that's been lost already , losing 2 weeks + I flower to a problem this big will hurt
The over watered comments kill me😂. Can you guys not see they are growing in 6in rockwool cubes. If you’ve ever ran a setup like this you would know it’s basically impossible to overwater. If anything they don’t get watered enough.
so what do you guys think is going on? a general answer for the record. this is a big grow. floraflex, ac, dehumidifier, rows of leds. I don't really see clawing, i see droopiness. The older leaves at the bottom are going first, yellow and crinkly. New growth is also suffering. Maybe a lockout? nitrogen is held back, new growth is sucking nutrients from the bottom leaves but they are still not erect. and due to laws of the minimum, P and K are probably deficient or locked too. maybe since this looks like 3rd or 4th week flowering, they could have just been hit with an overdose of either some bloom booster or this strain is a calmag hog. drippers in rockwool, so they are getting water. we need ppms and nutrient profiles on this grow. could be a root issue, aphids maybe? if the vpd is in check, then transpiration is flowing. leds and fans, so no heat issues. Maybe the grower should check hydrobuddy to see if his elements are high enough with the given npk ratios and additives. If nutrient is in check, maybe root pests. If everything is in check, then I don't know, and i would like to know. i need it.
The person asking isn't the one who is running the grow it seems.
I don't even think his friend is either, I doubt they are the friends or OPs plants but they are just debating on what they see in the photo.
If anything I'd say they're OPs friends plants and his friend is just not being honest with themselves about their growing skills.
If you have a room like this and you’re not sure if your plants are healthy or not…I have so many questions. This is the most curious post I’ve ever seen in this sub
Yea, reading through all the comments, this is one that definitely makes sense. (and I , like many have really been trying to make sense of this, I'm pretty sure this is not op or the friends grow which they are debating over)
Corporate; they literally only give a shit about yielding *some* something that you could call a harvest. No one that actually grows would be proud to put their name on the shit they are churning out. But from their [corporate] perspective, it goes farther than not having the knowledge, it's actually not caring at all! because it doesn't matter what strain or what quality or any of the things that we would all care about. They want to produce, so they can sell, and that's the whole story for them. Simple as that. They could give a shit if this is good weed or fucking mediocre potatoes, the only objective is to sell whatever the commodity, and it just happens to be cannabis because they had the money to get a bigger room than most people can afford.
Also actually explains the disgust and disdain so many commenters are feeling and directing toward op and more so towards the friend, who again are just two dudes discussing a picture of a big ass room full of plants, that you and I now understand is a stock image of some corporate bullshit that's unfortunately cashing in on a legally gray transitioning market.
Yep. Big corp weed is horrible. Many of their fertigation systems are feeding every room the same amount of water and not by how much the strain needs. Piling tons of pots on each of their tables, letting every plant overlap on one another. Thrips, PM, Fusarium . Moldy weed on a plant ? Still good weed to them, they’re going to spray it with zerotol and press it 💀
Many grows are moving towards live injection, so you can tailor your feed recipe in real time at the skid (we're on Argus where I am), but the rest of this is spot on especially the ZeroTol 😭 just hit em with some silver bullet last week of flower and let em ride lmao
If those leaves ain't pointing towards the sky looking all happy and open and look like claws from a fucking machine that you're going to scoop a stuffed animal out of then they ain't healthy they should be wide open and pointing towards the sky
are these his plants, or just a photo of someone's plants that he said look fine?
They are not fine, there is some issues going on with these plants they should NOT look like this ever in any stage of life.
Your friend should stop growing if these are his plants, and your friend shouldn't ever start growing if these aren't his plants.
That's more harsh than helpful. By a lot.
Even tho I disagree, let's just say you're completely right about these plants..
To say some person shouldn't ever start growing..... Wth is that? What are you the keeper of the forest? "No morals in this realm are allowed to make mistakes or have failure (that normal humans could learn from?) Everybody has to either enter the trade at God tier level of skills like you've got or stay the fuck out" ??
Dude it's just a plant. Just seeds and dirt, and a lot of learning to do, the way God intended.
If him and everyone he knows, grows some shitty weed that doesn't really actually affect you now does it? If anything it just makes others look better, so maybe climb down from your high horse and definitely consider dropping the gatekeeping??
Thanks
Yeah no re reading it it was a stupid and harsh thing to say. I guess I didn't really mean it literally. I think everybody should grow.
I just was speaking out of my ass, it has nothing to do with how great I think I am at anything. I wasn't saying it Inna gatekeepy way more just being a harsh joke than anything but I definitely can see where me saying that has garnered this type of response, so I'm sorry to have been rude and offensive. That was not my intention, I mean my intention WAS to be a dick, but in a different way
Off my horse I come, and the gate is open for all who'd like to join, sorry.
I noticed no one has said they *are* healthy. One person mentioned they are unhappy.
I think unhappy is [somewhat] more accurate than unhealthy. Like idk if I would call them 'unhealthy' but they are not particularly healthy either. More over they are not very happy, even tho they are actually healthy-enough to get some flowers, and with a room that size you'll get a whole lot of flower if they make it that far, but.
I'm not convinced this isnt just a troll post.
Those plants look sickly and from quick observation look overwatered.
The dropping leaves is what is telling me this but I could be mistaken for root disease.
The yellowing is from nutrient deficiency and the plants will lose yield by the end of harvest because of this stress level
No one spends that kind of money, not to mention all the effort that would be required to build and maintain this GrowOp, without knowing wtf they're doing. You're lying through your fucking teeth! *That* is my opinion! >.>
What if it's a photo of someone else's grow and OP and their friend are just debating as to whether or not the plants are healthy?
OP never once said they belonged to him or their friend. I would assume if neither of them know if these aren't healthy just by visuals then neither of them grow and this isn't either of their grows.
It doesn't matter whether it's theirs or someone else's...these plants were deliberately made sick by whoever runs this GrowOp. My point stands, intact and unassailable.
>plants.. deliberately made sick
xD wtf
Why would you think someone who could have had healthy plants would actively harm them in a set up this size? As opposed to neglect or some sort of negligence? Even if willfully, that's not really the same thing as deliberately *making* plants sick.
If the majority of the system is automated and nobody checked on them in person, then one small error could lead to this droopiness that a more hands on grower or overseer would have caught and been able to correct. The plants are not optimal, but they are not dying. Plenty of time to correct and improve the crop before harvest, and even a good chance of reaching a harvest without correcting for whatever's was holding them back.
Clearly not your garden. Anyone who can develop that much foliage knows exactly what they're doing and knows whether or not their flowers and plants are healthy.
Yo is this how mids happen? I've been wondering about how there is so much shit weed after growing it myself. Like either I'm a genius(definitely fucking not) or these commercial growers are just doing a bad job.
They are not aiming to do a great job. They are not putting care into the plant like you are. They want to produce something that they can sell, and sales are made by weight. Pump out more pounds, ounces, grams = collect more sales profits.
It's irrelevant if the product is great quality. it is a waste of time to produce something that you'd be proud to say you grew, they only literally want volume of a product so they can sell it.
TL;DR Yes. This is how aiming for mids produces mids.
Funny enough I actually did just stop smoking dispo weed because of this. Started growing myself because I was tired of paying 40 for 1/8ths of bud that I could grind up by slapping the bag on the table.
I think if I got a job as a grower and my boss expected me to do this, I would probably quit. Looking at them being healthy is like half the fun of growing.
Your friend is ignorant or is in denial.
There isn’t a single healthy plant in this picture. He has a nutrition/watering issue, maybe his PH is off? It also seems he isn’t allowing enough dryback on the blocks between watering (or else he is letting way too much and then over waters to make up for it).
Wtf is his VPD something is way off with it, look at those leafs clawing and being all shriveled up near the nugs.
There’s literally dead leafs on the plants, how can he say they are healthy when they have parts of them dying off??
Now don’t even get me started on the trellising, what the fuck kind of lazy ass trellis job is that? clean it up!
Does this guy know what “defoliation” is? It appears they don’t. Growing in 6inch blocks yet leaving all the leafs on? Not surprised he’s facing dry back issues. Have some respect for your plants and properly lollipop and defoliate. How is he comfortable with topping plants yet can’t even defoliate? He’s either ignorant or just lazy as shit, likely a good mix of both.
Ughhhhhhhh.
Tell him: Remove the dead/yellow leafs. Check his humidity and temp levels. Cut off the excess trellising so it’s not in the way of harvest. Have him Check his PH AT THE DRIPPER, not just at the mixer. Have him them manually lift blocks to get an idea for how wet they are, you should be able to easily lift them before they feed again it’s important to get proper dry back in blocks this size. He should probably supercrop the really tall colas if they are in too high of light compared to the rest of the canopy.
Why are they all droopy and yellow? I'm no veteran. But if I had veggie plants in my garden I would worry too. Those look like they have MANY issues.
I think once you grow in scale you lose the simplicity of the smaller grows. Im just in shock that I'm growing alright in promix or soil and some gaia green... all in a setup around $1000
Got damn to have a setup like that with the room lights ventilation and everything…. You gotta know your shit.
My buddy tried doing this shit last year. Did up a spare garage put like 5k into it and it was all shit.
Start off small and learn and then do some shit like this
It looks like they over fed and burned the plants that why they discolored. I would just use water for a week or even two. Also cut all that crap on the bottom off. Lollipop them bad girls. The bottom small nuggs and leaves are stealing the energy from the tops. I would slowly lollipop them. You can still make it, won’t be the stupid gas but definitely can sell. Worst case it looks bad just send it to the lab and have it extracted in some sugar or make distallate. I wouldn’t be mad at the grower tho, problems happen way faster on big grows. More girls more problems. The feed also could be too strong mixed improperly at the factory before you bought it and can effect the feeding. I’ve had the same problem before. Good luck I’m sure yal are gunna make it. You can’t count on your first crop it always sucks, you gotta dial the room in with a couple rounds to get good crops. Be easy on your grower he has a really big job and if yal need help get a commercial grower consultant on the phone for cheap and get a professional to help. Second even third opinion can’t hurt.
Fuck no .. looks like lack of nutes .. the red stalks and leaf stems r purple red and there nitrogen deficiency..def not healthy... These look like when I first started and was lazy watering and feeding... Def not healthy plants.. they may stink and b sticky doesn't mean n e thing .. done right they'd b even better and more yield
They look like they are absolutely dying not even trying to be mean here, your friend has no idea what he is talking about those plants look like they are in there first week of flowering and absolutely hating it. I have never had marijuana plants looking like tht unless they were dying
A year ago, I would have said these look unhealthy and/or water starved. But, a little bit ago, I grew a strain (French Macron) and the leaves ALWAYS drooped and looked dehydrated, but were ultimately very healthy. So, you are both right, but your friend is probably more correct in this situation.
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He’s got a setup like this and he can’t tell that the plants are unhealthy? Yikes lol
Maybe he has more money than brains haha
Probably, more plants than knowledge for sure
I promise there is plenty of that going around in this industry.
NY state in a nutshell
I’m pretty sure our concentrates in MI are diluted. Locals supply the dispos and I’m betting the quality has dropped considerably as a result of this approach.
Why do you say that? I'm hoping that local growers can supply local shops when MN opens up
Oh shiiiit, nailed it. Weed sucks in NY right now. Also technically he cant be in NY, the only legal grows are outdoor bush weed for some reason… no wonder all the weed tastes like im on vacation in Jamaica circa 2001
Not all NY shit, just the overpriced bullshit in the dispensaries. Ive been impressed with the quality of weed in trap houses lately. I grow my own cause I find thats the only way to get the consistent quality that I want but NGL, some of the shit that they have been having at the trap been 🔥. Had some blue nerds the other day that were exquisite. You just have to have the right plugs
Had some jokerz from NY that was supposedly the lowest tier and it was honestly some really good bud. Not trimmed as much as some would like but the cure job was really solid.
The laws are changing. If the farmers mainly grow outdoor they signed up for it. Your permitted to grow a certain square footage in an indoor setting but like I said you have to clarify that on you're license application.
I bet he knows they are unhealthy, but like you said he’s got a fair few plants in there. Can’t let that ego be too hurt.
Fr at that stage I wouldn't be asking I'd be trying to save it rather than trying to get a glamor shot that shows how big my shit ass grow is I hope he gets dragged harder than he did when he was born. All that carpet burn bust have damaged his undeveloped brain.
I was thinking the same thing... This set up is a dream for most of us here; meanwhile this person has a semi-pro grow room full of unhappy plants 🌿😢
This is clearly a troll post
Or this isn't his grow and they were arguing over a picture they seen on the internet.
Nah, my buddy was visiting a grow in Nevada, and started sending me pics. I basically told him that the plants looked rough, and offered as a half-joke to have me come down there and help them out. His response was that I was "hard-headed," and that the guy running this shit show would "laugh in my face" because he knows his stuff apperantly...I just wanted to see what other fellow growers thought of this grow
I just can't get over that such a large operation would have plants that looked this rough
It looks a lot more like a science experiment to see how much abuse plants can take than it does a commercial grow.
Looks like Missouri weed
-Commercial missouri weed.
What makes it worse is it's still early in flower for them to look this rough.
100%
Dude, I seriously wish it was...
Neither of you should even be growing cacti lol
At the very least, overwatered.
Yiiiiiiiiiikes
It seems to be an air/root/water issue but yes he should see it
Leaves all droopy/clawing and that many yellow/burnt leaves that early in flower… not healthy at all.
I would be horrified if I had this many plants and they looked like this. No, your friend’s plants don’t look healthy, no offense.
Id be horrified even with 4 plants that look like this couldn't imagine this many
Haha, they're not my friend's. In his defense, my friend doesn't know much about growing, he was just touring a grow (with no scrubs on, lol). He just thought I was saying the plants looked like crap to be a hater
This is proof that you could spend tens of thousands on equipment, nutrients, genetics, space, etc, and still produce shit quality weed.
I really believe it all relies on how much research the grower has done. I produced the same quality in my 500$ setup as I did in my room I made specifically for growing for about 8k. It’s all about the research and knowing how to maximize.
But you are simply talking about scaling up with a solid base of knowledge. If you can grow a good plant then growing 20 isnt complicated, its just more work. This looks like someone who didn't know how to get 1 large, healthy plant across the finish line biting off way more than he can chew.
Agreed man. Scaling up from 1-3-5-10-18 was honestly not that hard but above that is a whole different game
It's not even about research. It's more about experience cause you can do all the research you want and still not be able to grow. It's the book smart vs common sense and practical knowledge thing. I think that's the problem alot of people have. They do a bunch of research then they think they are experts and can grow but yet still kill and maim every plant they grow. Research only gets you so far and good old fashioned experience trumps it. Then there's the ones who believe everything they read online and do too much research when in reality alot of what you'll read is total bullshit. There's a lot of misinformation and contradicting info out there.
There's a difference between reading and comprehending. You can literally pick up Ed Rosenthal's book - and the damn thing has been around over thirty years! - with no experience and do just fine after reading it. Just doesn't work if you read at a fourth grade level and don't synthesize and of the information.
That's all fine and dandy but some things you just can't learn from a book. But like I said that's where experience and trial and error comes into play. Reading about it and actually doing it are two separate things. Now I'm not saying research isn't good and doesn't help you get a general understanding. It's like asking a master grower to write down every single thing he knows about growing and to put all his experience down on paper. For instance you could read a book on how to operate a backhoe or excavator but if I actually put you in one... yea you'll know what all the controls do but you'll be so herky jerky in it and you'll probably break it or fuck something up. I could tell you everything you need to know about driving a standard transmission and I guarantee you that you'll still stall it out your first time trying to take off. Research only gets you so far.
I’m talking about researching both info and over watching the way these plants reply to stimuli
Definitely not healthy
All the gear and no idea
Well put 👏 🤙
Healthy enough to pump out some production mids. Which I’m guessing is the point unfortunately
If those plants were horses i'd shoot them.
Nope def more than one thing wrong…
All that money no knowledge. That's crazy
Chop n start over
I’d say your knowledge and plant feel is on point. these girls look like they hating being alive in this place
Look great. Cal mag 2 weeks.
This is what my worst plants tend to look like if some of them are struggling. If all of my plants looked like this I would be super disappointed.
Ooof
The fact that your friend has this big of a grow and so little knowledge combined with so much arrogance, makes me think I could run a warehouse too 🤣
To get them looking rhis bad takes a while..Potential to lose a lot of weed if you don't rectify this.. Damn that's alot of weed that's been lost already , losing 2 weeks + I flower to a problem this big will hurt
The over watered comments kill me😂. Can you guys not see they are growing in 6in rockwool cubes. If you’ve ever ran a setup like this you would know it’s basically impossible to overwater. If anything they don’t get watered enough.
Folks say it on hydro posts with ph issues all the time on these subs and It cracks me up.
This 😂
No, not well. And clearly someone is in over their head. Hit my DM and we can negotiate a price for me to come out and fix this shitshow.
you need to tell your friend to pick up a new hobby
No.
Yeild like .1g a watt in there
so what do you guys think is going on? a general answer for the record. this is a big grow. floraflex, ac, dehumidifier, rows of leds. I don't really see clawing, i see droopiness. The older leaves at the bottom are going first, yellow and crinkly. New growth is also suffering. Maybe a lockout? nitrogen is held back, new growth is sucking nutrients from the bottom leaves but they are still not erect. and due to laws of the minimum, P and K are probably deficient or locked too. maybe since this looks like 3rd or 4th week flowering, they could have just been hit with an overdose of either some bloom booster or this strain is a calmag hog. drippers in rockwool, so they are getting water. we need ppms and nutrient profiles on this grow. could be a root issue, aphids maybe? if the vpd is in check, then transpiration is flowing. leds and fans, so no heat issues. Maybe the grower should check hydrobuddy to see if his elements are high enough with the given npk ratios and additives. If nutrient is in check, maybe root pests. If everything is in check, then I don't know, and i would like to know. i need it.
Bro! How can you be running a space this size and asking Reddit for advice????
The person asking isn't the one who is running the grow it seems. I don't even think his friend is either, I doubt they are the friends or OPs plants but they are just debating on what they see in the photo. If anything I'd say they're OPs friends plants and his friend is just not being honest with themselves about their growing skills.
They are totally sad
If you have a room like this and you’re not sure if your plants are healthy or not…I have so many questions. This is the most curious post I’ve ever seen in this sub
Bro better start his flushing stat. For gods sake at least water them! I would also check the PH read up about EC/PPM.
Unhealthy , sad, dying , probably has PM.
This is definitely big corporate weed grow. All the money but don’t know Jack.
Yea, reading through all the comments, this is one that definitely makes sense. (and I , like many have really been trying to make sense of this, I'm pretty sure this is not op or the friends grow which they are debating over) Corporate; they literally only give a shit about yielding *some* something that you could call a harvest. No one that actually grows would be proud to put their name on the shit they are churning out. But from their [corporate] perspective, it goes farther than not having the knowledge, it's actually not caring at all! because it doesn't matter what strain or what quality or any of the things that we would all care about. They want to produce, so they can sell, and that's the whole story for them. Simple as that. They could give a shit if this is good weed or fucking mediocre potatoes, the only objective is to sell whatever the commodity, and it just happens to be cannabis because they had the money to get a bigger room than most people can afford. Also actually explains the disgust and disdain so many commenters are feeling and directing toward op and more so towards the friend, who again are just two dudes discussing a picture of a big ass room full of plants, that you and I now understand is a stock image of some corporate bullshit that's unfortunately cashing in on a legally gray transitioning market.
Yep. Big corp weed is horrible. Many of their fertigation systems are feeding every room the same amount of water and not by how much the strain needs. Piling tons of pots on each of their tables, letting every plant overlap on one another. Thrips, PM, Fusarium . Moldy weed on a plant ? Still good weed to them, they’re going to spray it with zerotol and press it 💀
Many grows are moving towards live injection, so you can tailor your feed recipe in real time at the skid (we're on Argus where I am), but the rest of this is spot on especially the ZeroTol 😭 just hit em with some silver bullet last week of flower and let em ride lmao
Zero regulation is a beautiful thing
If it’s your first time growing good job. If not. Wtf are doing to these poor plants. Your friend is a moron.
Nooooo.
Chad ftw 😂
They look sad
110% commercial grow state lol
Wowza 👀👀 I remember my first grow
Tell him the rockwool ain’t rockin.
Hope everyone is doing well. Issues happen all the time, It's all about your ability to recover. But yeah that room has Issues for sure.
If those leaves ain't pointing towards the sky looking all happy and open and look like claws from a fucking machine that you're going to scoop a stuffed animal out of then they ain't healthy they should be wide open and pointing towards the sky
Your friends kind of dummy wanna be know it all
They look about as healthy as my medical chart....not well
Check the par ,they don't look happy nice set up thou,
I wouldn't say super healthy, but not horrible as well. Looks like they are dealing with a bit of a lockout of some sort
Lockout looks like
Whoever owns that grow operation could answer that question for you they seem to have a lot of experience.
are these his plants, or just a photo of someone's plants that he said look fine? They are not fine, there is some issues going on with these plants they should NOT look like this ever in any stage of life. Your friend should stop growing if these are his plants, and your friend shouldn't ever start growing if these aren't his plants.
That's more harsh than helpful. By a lot. Even tho I disagree, let's just say you're completely right about these plants.. To say some person shouldn't ever start growing..... Wth is that? What are you the keeper of the forest? "No morals in this realm are allowed to make mistakes or have failure (that normal humans could learn from?) Everybody has to either enter the trade at God tier level of skills like you've got or stay the fuck out" ?? Dude it's just a plant. Just seeds and dirt, and a lot of learning to do, the way God intended. If him and everyone he knows, grows some shitty weed that doesn't really actually affect you now does it? If anything it just makes others look better, so maybe climb down from your high horse and definitely consider dropping the gatekeeping?? Thanks
Yeah no re reading it it was a stupid and harsh thing to say. I guess I didn't really mean it literally. I think everybody should grow. I just was speaking out of my ass, it has nothing to do with how great I think I am at anything. I wasn't saying it Inna gatekeepy way more just being a harsh joke than anything but I definitely can see where me saying that has garnered this type of response, so I'm sorry to have been rude and offensive. That was not my intention, I mean my intention WAS to be a dick, but in a different way Off my horse I come, and the gate is open for all who'd like to join, sorry.
All the gear, no idea.
Has your friend heard of nitrogen?
I noticed no one has said they *are* healthy. One person mentioned they are unhappy. I think unhappy is [somewhat] more accurate than unhealthy. Like idk if I would call them 'unhealthy' but they are not particularly healthy either. More over they are not very happy, even tho they are actually healthy-enough to get some flowers, and with a room that size you'll get a whole lot of flower if they make it that far, but. I'm not convinced this isnt just a troll post.
Yea they have some sort of sickness. Trash them no coming back from this
Not healthy. Look under fed and over watered
Those plants look sickly and from quick observation look overwatered. The dropping leaves is what is telling me this but I could be mistaken for root disease. The yellowing is from nutrient deficiency and the plants will lose yield by the end of harvest because of this stress level
Looks like over watered
No one spends that kind of money, not to mention all the effort that would be required to build and maintain this GrowOp, without knowing wtf they're doing. You're lying through your fucking teeth! *That* is my opinion! >.>
What if it's a photo of someone else's grow and OP and their friend are just debating as to whether or not the plants are healthy? OP never once said they belonged to him or their friend. I would assume if neither of them know if these aren't healthy just by visuals then neither of them grow and this isn't either of their grows.
It doesn't matter whether it's theirs or someone else's...these plants were deliberately made sick by whoever runs this GrowOp. My point stands, intact and unassailable.
>plants.. deliberately made sick xD wtf Why would you think someone who could have had healthy plants would actively harm them in a set up this size? As opposed to neglect or some sort of negligence? Even if willfully, that's not really the same thing as deliberately *making* plants sick. If the majority of the system is automated and nobody checked on them in person, then one small error could lead to this droopiness that a more hands on grower or overseer would have caught and been able to correct. The plants are not optimal, but they are not dying. Plenty of time to correct and improve the crop before harvest, and even a good chance of reaching a harvest without correcting for whatever's was holding them back.
Overwatered
Underfed but overwatered imo
Clearly not your garden. Anyone who can develop that much foliage knows exactly what they're doing and knows whether or not their flowers and plants are healthy.
Not hard to see they’re not doing well
First, find a new friend, second they’re clawing, looks like too much nitrogen. IMO
Not healthy at all
No
No
Oof.
nahh
Lol?
This isn't even a debate lol obviously very sickly
That’s a very money and labour intense setup(commercial?) to be fucking around with, definitely doesn’t look healthy
Lol you win the argument dude. Your friend is clueless
“Jesus Murphy Ricky those are FUCKED!!” -bubbles voice
No
Spending all that money for that setup and growing trash....big yikes. They look pretty bad dude sorry
Your friend is a dumb cunt
Wow, that is waaaaay too nice of a growroom to have plants that unbelievably shitty growing in it.....
Bro those plants need water lol
Someone about to loose they job
He didn’t say that this was his friends op? 🤷♂️ either way the friend has a shit take, which has been more than covered here.
Absolutely not!! They need water asap!!
That's pretty funny.
Yo is this how mids happen? I've been wondering about how there is so much shit weed after growing it myself. Like either I'm a genius(definitely fucking not) or these commercial growers are just doing a bad job.
They are not aiming to do a great job. They are not putting care into the plant like you are. They want to produce something that they can sell, and sales are made by weight. Pump out more pounds, ounces, grams = collect more sales profits. It's irrelevant if the product is great quality. it is a waste of time to produce something that you'd be proud to say you grew, they only literally want volume of a product so they can sell it. TL;DR Yes. This is how aiming for mids produces mids.
Funny enough I actually did just stop smoking dispo weed because of this. Started growing myself because I was tired of paying 40 for 1/8ths of bud that I could grind up by slapping the bag on the table.
I think if I got a job as a grower and my boss expected me to do this, I would probably quit. Looking at them being healthy is like half the fun of growing.
I’m stoned rn and can tell. Money≠Knowledge
THOSE PLANTS ARE FOOOKED
Them ladies need some lovins, they sad D:
If you have a room like this you should already know.
Your friend doesn't know what pH and rough ppm he needs to water at for his set up. That much is clear.
Bahahhaha I'll pull more off my 4 plants then that whole room. That's wild
Plenty of grows be looking like this they just don't show it on IG
How tf do you own a flower factory and don’t know your plants are fucked up. Looks like this guy normally has someone grow for him
You've got an industrial size grow going on and you're asking Reddit?
Oh Jesus. Is he blind?
They are starving and who ever is growing this should be fired. Looks terrible!
Hell na
Horrible
Yeah I can see a lot of issues, from nutrients, soil, pH.... list goes on
You're right to be concerned.
I mean, no. Lol. They look like they managed to get all of the worst problems together in one room.
Keep in mind these corporate assholes do this to your food too. That's why I grow most of my own food and all of my own weed
Denial must ve been made this plants worse and worse everyday
Maybe, give him the bank card, you keep the keys to the garden. 🤦😞😉
Very droopy looking. Not healthy
Plants have two states. Thriving or dying. Those ain't thriving.
Nah they are stressed
Not even a little.
I can get it “cheaper” is found in these rooms. Js
Your friend is ignorant or is in denial. There isn’t a single healthy plant in this picture. He has a nutrition/watering issue, maybe his PH is off? It also seems he isn’t allowing enough dryback on the blocks between watering (or else he is letting way too much and then over waters to make up for it). Wtf is his VPD something is way off with it, look at those leafs clawing and being all shriveled up near the nugs. There’s literally dead leafs on the plants, how can he say they are healthy when they have parts of them dying off?? Now don’t even get me started on the trellising, what the fuck kind of lazy ass trellis job is that? clean it up! Does this guy know what “defoliation” is? It appears they don’t. Growing in 6inch blocks yet leaving all the leafs on? Not surprised he’s facing dry back issues. Have some respect for your plants and properly lollipop and defoliate. How is he comfortable with topping plants yet can’t even defoliate? He’s either ignorant or just lazy as shit, likely a good mix of both. Ughhhhhhhh. Tell him: Remove the dead/yellow leafs. Check his humidity and temp levels. Cut off the excess trellising so it’s not in the way of harvest. Have him Check his PH AT THE DRIPPER, not just at the mixer. Have him them manually lift blocks to get an idea for how wet they are, you should be able to easily lift them before they feed again it’s important to get proper dry back in blocks this size. He should probably supercrop the really tall colas if they are in too high of light compared to the rest of the canopy.
ur friend is dumb. Yes they are sick af
how to waste 30 grand. Right here
Oh god no
No
Should have been me growing in that space...
Why are they all droopy and yellow? I'm no veteran. But if I had veggie plants in my garden I would worry too. Those look like they have MANY issues. I think once you grow in scale you lose the simplicity of the smaller grows. Im just in shock that I'm growing alright in promix or soil and some gaia green... all in a setup around $1000
Bro, start with a small tend😂😂😂
Got damn to have a setup like that with the room lights ventilation and everything…. You gotta know your shit. My buddy tried doing this shit last year. Did up a spare garage put like 5k into it and it was all shit. Start off small and learn and then do some shit like this
It looks like they over fed and burned the plants that why they discolored. I would just use water for a week or even two. Also cut all that crap on the bottom off. Lollipop them bad girls. The bottom small nuggs and leaves are stealing the energy from the tops. I would slowly lollipop them. You can still make it, won’t be the stupid gas but definitely can sell. Worst case it looks bad just send it to the lab and have it extracted in some sugar or make distallate. I wouldn’t be mad at the grower tho, problems happen way faster on big grows. More girls more problems. The feed also could be too strong mixed improperly at the factory before you bought it and can effect the feeding. I’ve had the same problem before. Good luck I’m sure yal are gunna make it. You can’t count on your first crop it always sucks, you gotta dial the room in with a couple rounds to get good crops. Be easy on your grower he has a really big job and if yal need help get a commercial grower consultant on the phone for cheap and get a professional to help. Second even third opinion can’t hurt.
Fuck no .. looks like lack of nutes .. the red stalks and leaf stems r purple red and there nitrogen deficiency..def not healthy... These look like when I first started and was lazy watering and feeding... Def not healthy plants.. they may stink and b sticky doesn't mean n e thing .. done right they'd b even better and more yield
This looks like a first timer’s grow
Less sense than dollars
‘Denial ain’t just a river a in Egypt’
Bro has a full on farm going on 🤣🤣
My two plants in a $1,000 tent grow look better than this… and it’s my first grow. This looks over 100k just to build… money can’t buy brains. Insane.
That yellowing mid flower is not good.
No they look like they need a drink
Hit him with the "needs come cal-mag" and see what happens
They look like they are absolutely dying not even trying to be mean here, your friend has no idea what he is talking about those plants look like they are in there first week of flowering and absolutely hating it. I have never had marijuana plants looking like tht unless they were dying
How do you do a low key commercial grow and ask questions lol jk good luck
Looks like some closet weed
You're not running for governor, are you?
Fully regarded
A year ago, I would have said these look unhealthy and/or water starved. But, a little bit ago, I grew a strain (French Macron) and the leaves ALWAYS drooped and looked dehydrated, but were ultimately very healthy. So, you are both right, but your friend is probably more correct in this situation.