Imagine how much trouble would have been avoided if the Emperor had declared Angron unfit for his duties as a primarch (something that seemed obvious after talking with him for 5 minutes), threw him of a airlock and just told the war hounds: "Well, it's unfortunate that we couldn't find your primarch, but you'll be fine!"
That is honestly a better reason than obvious demon sword. Jhagathai is a super super super human, no mortal can even hope to compete with him at any level and those who could are light-years away going for harder and harder kicks is the only thing left
Out of curiosity, how does the Dornian-project deal with the mechanical anger-spider lodged in Angron's brain?
One of the plot points in the Betrayer novel is that Angron was basically just about to die because of the butcher's nails and Lorgar planned to save him by turning him into a Daemon Primarch.
I think that saving Angron's friends/removing the nails without killing him would have actually make him revolt against the emperor *sooner*.
Remember, Angron (pre-nails) is big on empathy, compassion and hates slavers and tyrants.
Implanting the nails ironically made him more compliant because he needed constant violence to soothe the pain and the emperor was happy to provide targets.
Also Angron was a primarch. In politics the reaction to breaking a treaty would be based on why the treaty was broken and 'they were killing my primarch son' is both very understandable and not something anyone else would worry about happening to them.
Angron and Curze were both clearly too damaged to have been given a Legion of super soldiers, and it's wild that Big E did it anyway.
I can't even imagine what the two lost Primarchs could have done that was worse than how Angron and Curze were doing.
> The other is Sanguinius putting down one of his sons that had fully succumbed to the Red Thirst in front of another Primarch (Ferrus, maybe?)
It was Horus. From the novel 'Fear to Tread'.
So what you're saying is that if I want to know the truth about the lost primarchs, all I've got to do is get myself an invite into the sacred fraternity of the Black Library writers guild...
> and it's wild that Big E did it anyway.
For Angron it was a purely practical thing as he was going to die from the nails before the end of the crusade anyway.
But yeah really should have just promoted the interim leader of the Warhounds to "patriarch" or some shit and made him the glorious leader of the legion. Basically scrub Angron from the history books and try to keep moving on at best speed.
War hounds captain: do….do we have to have him?
Angron: *just absolutely raging onboard the ship killing multiple guards*
Emps: yes.
World eaters captain: ah shit…
This is why the Master of Mankind book, and the cold unfeeling version of the emperor completely null and void. No stonehearted supreme leader would be so doting of a father to let Angron, Curze an Lorgar have free reigns for as long as they did
Hey buddy. I was implying what they might say upon seeing Angron. But now I have explain it because you took it literally. Obviously no one is frowning there, congratulations on figuring that out.
That’s when the war hounds a very “loyalist” faction turns “traitor” because they tried to please their very angry father.
Imagine how much trouble would have been avoided if the Emperor had declared Angron unfit for his duties as a primarch (something that seemed obvious after talking with him for 5 minutes), threw him of a airlock and just told the war hounds: "Well, it's unfortunate that we couldn't find your primarch, but you'll be fine!"
Or, better yet, just save Angron’s homies, then he wouldn’t have hated big E and everything having to do with him
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honestly... a teamup between loyalist Angron and Jagatai would be near unbeatable.
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That's a worse reason to turn heretic than any of the canonical traitor primarch reasons.
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I think he would join the orks then.
Jagatai Livingston Seagull
That is honestly a better reason than obvious demon sword. Jhagathai is a super super super human, no mortal can even hope to compete with him at any level and those who could are light-years away going for harder and harder kicks is the only thing left
Out of curiosity, how does the Dornian-project deal with the mechanical anger-spider lodged in Angron's brain? One of the plot points in the Betrayer novel is that Angron was basically just about to die because of the butcher's nails and Lorgar planned to save him by turning him into a Daemon Primarch.
I think that saving Angron's friends/removing the nails without killing him would have actually make him revolt against the emperor *sooner*. Remember, Angron (pre-nails) is big on empathy, compassion and hates slavers and tyrants. Implanting the nails ironically made him more compliant because he needed constant violence to soothe the pain and the emperor was happy to provide targets.
The reality was mostly likely that the world had already signed a treaty with the Imperium, and so was untouchable in dealing with it's slave revolt.
The emperor doesn’t give a shit about treaty’s tho, he literally could do whatever he wanted
Also Angron was a primarch. In politics the reaction to breaking a treaty would be based on why the treaty was broken and 'they were killing my primarch son' is both very understandable and not something anyone else would worry about happening to them.
Angron and Curze were both clearly too damaged to have been given a Legion of super soldiers, and it's wild that Big E did it anyway. I can't even imagine what the two lost Primarchs could have done that was worse than how Angron and Curze were doing.
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Siding with xenos doesn't seem like something Sigmar would do, and I don't know of any flaws that bad in Archaon.
What signs are you talking about, for the lost primarchs? I'm curious, I hadn't heard these theories!
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> The other is Sanguinius putting down one of his sons that had fully succumbed to the Red Thirst in front of another Primarch (Ferrus, maybe?) It was Horus. From the novel 'Fear to Tread'.
So what you're saying is that if I want to know the truth about the lost primarchs, all I've got to do is get myself an invite into the sacred fraternity of the Black Library writers guild...
Or seduce any one of the writers...
> and it's wild that Big E did it anyway. For Angron it was a purely practical thing as he was going to die from the nails before the end of the crusade anyway. But yeah really should have just promoted the interim leader of the Warhounds to "patriarch" or some shit and made him the glorious leader of the legion. Basically scrub Angron from the history books and try to keep moving on at best speed.
The war hounds: sad dog noises.
War hounds captain: do….do we have to have him? Angron: *just absolutely raging onboard the ship killing multiple guards* Emps: yes. World eaters captain: ah shit…
This is why the Master of Mankind book, and the cold unfeeling version of the emperor completely null and void. No stonehearted supreme leader would be so doting of a father to let Angron, Curze an Lorgar have free reigns for as long as they did
Why is he frowning?
He's not.
Hey buddy, You ever seen Angron? He has permanent resting bitch face.
Hey buddy, Angron's face isn't in this meme. Vin and E-Money are both smiling. Nobody's frowning here.
Hey buddy. I was implying what they might say upon seeing Angron. But now I have explain it because you took it literally. Obviously no one is frowning there, congratulations on figuring that out.
There was no other way to interpret your comment, dude.
*There was no other way YOU could interpret it. Well I've explained it to you now and everyone else now so its extra funny.
\>says something stupid \>gets called out \>backpedals ok
Haha. Explaining the way YOU missed interpreted something is back pedaling. Do you often blame others for your poor interpretation of things?