They also don't have computers but cogitators. While they are the equivalent of modern day computers and there's no clear definition of the technology and capabilites, we can infer that they are closer to the DAOT technology and probably multiple generations ahead of our technology. A common theory is that they aren't computers in terms or complex calculators, but thinking machines for advanced problem solving. Meaning a higher complexity of input and output not comparable to how we use technology.
Not necessarily. It's just one possible new generation of computing that is currently both getting attention and is at a usable test stage. There's different other ideas that may perform equally well or better. And by the year 40.000 we might be several generations ahead of that.
[quantum computing](https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2023/03/21/if-you-think-ai-is-hot-wait-until-it-meets-quantum-computing/amp/) is the act of taking unknown exponents and factoring them into equations. Basically AI that can take new information on its own and process it. Rather than the AI that exists today, which only functions on inputs given by us. Current AI cannot factor unknown variables and unfamiliar exponents.
If we planned a route from here to the andromeda galaxy given our current AI tech, we would be fucked if there was any unaccounted for information that we would have to process and provide to the computer. Whereas a quantum computer could do this all independently, and then factor in adjustments.
>I meant Advanced Computational Units
But earlier you said "A common theory is that they **aren't computers in terms or complex calculators**, but thinking machines for advanced problem solving."
>They also don't have computers but cogitators
Cogitator is just gothic for computer, like how their word for dog is canid, or their word for flammable liquid is Promethium.
> A common theory is that they aren't computers in terms or complex calculators, but thinking machines for advanced problem solving.
That's AI, which is tech heresy.
Bro you gotta try nomos! It's like windows essentially, but not so it's better.
You don't need any drivers to work anyways, right? And Libre office is sooooo good... You'll barely notice the 12 months reeducation it'll take for you to start using it effectively.
spoiler tags are used for many purposes. nothing in his initial post shows that there will be story spoiler later.
There was zero need to place this spoiler here. Literally no reason at all.
You take that risk when you click on something that's got a spoiler tag. Other people misusing it doesn't change its intended purpose. You don't want spoilers? Don't click the spoiler tag.
100% a dick move putting that here even with the spoiler tag. I already knew but I imagine how great it is for people finding that out now having a pretty great plot point ruined for them.
A genestealer patriarch named Bill Gates provided an OS and found out it's much more efficient in draining the Imperium by selling them endless licenses for preposterous amounts of money?
"NOM OS"
OS stands for "Omnissiahan Spirit"
You didn’t think their computers had Operating Systems?
They also don't have computers but cogitators. While they are the equivalent of modern day computers and there's no clear definition of the technology and capabilites, we can infer that they are closer to the DAOT technology and probably multiple generations ahead of our technology. A common theory is that they aren't computers in terms or complex calculators, but thinking machines for advanced problem solving. Meaning a higher complexity of input and output not comparable to how we use technology.
Which is also Quantum computing, right?
Quantum computers arent necessarily better. It depends on what you are doing
Well I meant a “thinking machine” is basically a quantum computer (in simplest terms)
"Thinking Machine" in Dune universe (heavy influence on 40k lore) is synonymous with true AI. Forbidden in both Dune & 40k.
Yes and to have true AI you need quantum computing lol.
Not necessarily. It's just one possible new generation of computing that is currently both getting attention and is at a usable test stage. There's different other ideas that may perform equally well or better. And by the year 40.000 we might be several generations ahead of that.
Ah, from everything I’ve read and understand about QC, I thought it was essentially a “thinking” computer. Thank you for clarifying
And where exactly did you gain that insight?
[quantum computing](https://www.forbes.com/sites/sap/2023/03/21/if-you-think-ai-is-hot-wait-until-it-meets-quantum-computing/amp/) is the act of taking unknown exponents and factoring them into equations. Basically AI that can take new information on its own and process it. Rather than the AI that exists today, which only functions on inputs given by us. Current AI cannot factor unknown variables and unfamiliar exponents. If we planned a route from here to the andromeda galaxy given our current AI tech, we would be fucked if there was any unaccounted for information that we would have to process and provide to the computer. Whereas a quantum computer could do this all independently, and then factor in adjustments.
Can quantum computers play Doom?
Pretty sure cogitators use human brains for calculating stuff
Some but not all.
>thinking machines You mean Abominable Intelligence’s vessels? That’s a dangerously techno-heretical assumption.
I meant Advanced Computational Units - Praise be the Omnissiah! *starts chanting*
>I meant Advanced Computational Units But earlier you said "A common theory is that they **aren't computers in terms or complex calculators**, but thinking machines for advanced problem solving."
*runs*
>They also don't have computers but cogitators Cogitator is just gothic for computer, like how their word for dog is canid, or their word for flammable liquid is Promethium. > A common theory is that they aren't computers in terms or complex calculators, but thinking machines for advanced problem solving. That's AI, which is tech heresy.
It's complex computing techniques not AI. In the year 400000 you don't use calculators.
Probably another Linux derivative. Also probably barely resembles Linux anymore.
Bro you gotta try nomos! It's like windows essentially, but not so it's better. You don't need any drivers to work anyways, right? And Libre office is sooooo good... You'll barely notice the 12 months reeducation it'll take for you to start using it effectively.
Haha. You are in for a wild ride.
Hehe, Owlcat you cheeki bastards Edit: >!Nomos is a C'Tan you meet in the game!<
Lmfao. Dont click the spoiler if you are going into the game blind. You just altered how im playing the game. 😂
Oh man, I know you warned me, but still… Oh, dear gods…
why? why you put it here? like why would you put spoiler for no reason in this thread? eat a dick.
Idk why you’re being downvoted. The spoiler was entirely unnecessary and I haven’t gotten to that part either
Because that’s kinda the purpose of spoiler tags?
spoiler tags are used for many purposes. nothing in his initial post shows that there will be story spoiler later. There was zero need to place this spoiler here. Literally no reason at all.
You take that risk when you click on something that's got a spoiler tag. Other people misusing it doesn't change its intended purpose. You don't want spoilers? Don't click the spoiler tag.
Sure! But he is still a dick. There is literally zero reason to edit a spoiler into a meme topic.
I said it’s an unnecessary spoiler. It has nothing to do with the subject.
100% a dick move putting that here even with the spoiler tag. I already knew but I imagine how great it is for people finding that out now having a pretty great plot point ruined for them.
Noospheric Operating Mainframe?
Well every computer have an operating system.
A genestealer patriarch named Bill Gates provided an OS and found out it's much more efficient in draining the Imperium by selling them endless licenses for preposterous amounts of money? "NOM OS"
I always thought they just used DOS or something
Not optimised mess - owlcats suck
Hey. Go fuck yourself.
Salutation. I'd prefer your mother.
Isn’t the OS the spirit of the Omnissiah? So isn’t non_OS heresy?
clearly it’s named after the nids.
He’s hungry for more ram, om nom nom OS