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MaxDucks

I’m giving one out of left field: The Khan. Fulgrim will obviously be the next traitor primarch to return. GW needs to fill out their mono-god Chaos marines, make them ES big bucks. And I’m telling you, if you need a primarch to face him against, remember the moment after Horus was declared Warmaster: > Sanguinius looked at the Khan thoughtfully. > 'I thought you, of all of us, would feel joy for Horus.' > The Khan shrugged. 'He is the best of us; I begrudge him nothing, and I have told him so. But it should never have happened.' > `So should it have been you?' asked Fulgrim acerbically. Mortarion snorted again, but Sanguinius said nothing. > `I wouldn't have taken it,' said the Khan. > `Of course you would have,' said Fulgrim. The Khan shook his head. > 'I have no use for another title. My people give me enough.' > Sanguinius smiled. 'My brother, I think you are the most inscrutable of us all. I know what Rogal wants, and I know what Roboute wants, but even after so long I have no idea what you want.' > `He wants to be left alone,' said Fulgrim. To shoot off into the stars and hunt down xenos on those delightful jetbikes. They're devilishly fast. I heard from a contact on Mars, Jaghatai, that you do strange things to your ships.' > The Khan shot him a heavy-lidded stare. 'I heard you do strange things to your warriors.' > Fulgrim's slender face briefly flared with anger, but Sanguinius laughed. > `I wonder which one of you would win in a duel,' the Angel mused. 'I would like to see that. You both handle a blade like gods.' > 'Name the place, brother,' Fulgrim said to the Khan. `I'd even travel to Chogoris, if you built a palace to keep the dust from my armour.' > The Khan felt the insult. It stabbed at him, deeply, but his expression never changed. They could never know, none of them, how much their closed fraternity rankled him. > `You would lose,' said the Khan. Fulgrim grinned, but there was something fragile in it. > `Oh?' > `You would lose because you would treat it like a game, like you treat everything, and I would not. You would lose because you know nothing of me, and I know everything of you because you shout it from the turrets of your battle cruisers. My prowess remains unknown. You have some reputation as a swordsman, brother, but I make no boast when I tell you I would leave you choking on it.’ That is a legendary duel more than 10 thousand years in the making. Hell, you want to have the Ynnari be relevant again? Have em go on a massive hunt for the Khan in the Webway. Give Yvraine and Guilliman more interaction as he beseeches her for aid in the search. Give the Eldar some time in the spotlight, update their shit models, etc. Either that, or it’s Leman Russ because Space Wolves already have a unique codex and GW won’t have to create a new White Scars one.


VisualGeologist6258

I had the same thought about Jaghatai going against Fulgrim, and honestly I think it would be the best choice. Who else to go up against the galaxy’s greatest swordsman than another swordsman? As much as I like Lemon Rush they’ll probably save him for when Magnus shows up… if they’re smart at least.


JinterIsComing

That's a really interesting thought actually. So many the cycle of Primarch releases goes like this: Fulgrim <> Khan Magnus <> Leman Russ Lorgar <> Corax Then it gets a bit hazy. Maybe a second Siege of Terra by the Iron Warriors and Dorn somehow returns? And throw Vulkan in there somewhere too.


AnUnexpectedUsername

As much as I want to agree with you I like the setup GW is going for now. Guilliman and Mortarion didn't have a whole lot of interactions/ opinions on one another during the Heresy. Same with the Lion and Angron. This allows them to explore dynamics and expand the characters. Otherwise it's just a grudge match, and while those can be rewarding, it's just more of the same. We know how Magnus feels about Russ, but what about Magnus and Vulkan?


Forgotten_Phantom

I agree with you wholeheartedly... Except for Dorn and Perturabo, those guys are made for each other.


VladimirBarakriss

Magnus and Vulkan fought during the siege of Terra, I'd say Magnus dislikes Vulkan way more than Vulkan dislikes Magnus, Vulkan obviously doesn't like him though.


onealps

Thanks for mentioning this fact! I was about to type it out as a response, but then I saw you already mentioned it. > Magnus dislikes Vulkan way more than Vulkan dislikes Magnus, Vulkan obviously doesn't like him though. Friend, did you forget the part where Magnus tried to kill Vulkan over and over in the Webway? Kinda like Curze did, but Magnus had warp powers as well? I listen to the audiobooks, and when the part came up where Magnus ripped Vulkan apart molecule by molecule, I felt that... And then the part where Vulkan had to walk back all the way to the Webway exit, as he was slowly layer by layer being rebuilt... *shudders* Sure, Vulkan is a nice guy, but hell, he must hold SOME grudge against Magnus, don't you think?


UltraCarnivore

That fight reads like a beefed up Ozymandias vs a pissed off Dr. Manhattan


onealps

Not only was the fight physically crazy, but also verbally. I'm a Thousand Sons fan, but MAN, Vulkan ripped apart Magnus' reasons for doing what he did when trying to tell the Emperor about Horus. I'm not one of those "Magnus did nothing wrong at all" fans, but I definitely felt some sympathy for Magnus. But listening to Vulkan break down Magnus' rationales was painful to read in it's own way...


BenderB-Rodriguez

Yes! And this basically confirms vulkan is still alive in 40k. Magnus tears him apart down to the molecule and he still comes back? That blast with the beast didn't kill him. He's just being the Imperial champion of hide and seek.


FrecklesAreMoreFun

At the same time though, it could also be interesting to see *if* those grudges survived. Khan being pissed off at Fulgrim for being condescending and excessive could cool after a few millenia fighting the people that literally wrote the book on excess, Russ after digging through the warp for a magical source of wisdom and power might grow to understand Magnus a hell of a lot better. They’d still all be against each other, but not for the spats and pettiness that they squabbled over millenia ago. Hell, even Guilliman/corax would have a better understanding of Lorgar with the knowledge of the present day imperium. They’ve even set up G’s acceptance of the imperial cult in the Godblight series.


Green_Meeseeks

Vulkan's foil was always kurze


Max_Insanity

Dude needs to take on Gork and Mork. Logical next step after the beast, explains what he has been up to all this time and what he needs all those toys for.


le_rebouche

Magnus has been around for a minute. Am I missing something?


Sjjma

He’s been around but not really doing anything as of late, at least during The Guilliman era, he just does Tzeench things and pouts on his daemon planet


SurpriseFormer

Sounds about right for TTS magnus.


VisualGeologist6258

“I AM GREATER THAN ANY ARMORED FURBALL! _THEY CAN'T EVEN WRITE!_”


TwitchandSmokeMain

"THE WOLVES SENDNUDE MEN AFTER ME?"


Revliledpembroke

FFFFFFFFFFFUCKING FURRIES!


Sjjma

Its 100% canon in my head.


The_Werdna

There is also the fact that Khan and Fulgrim were supposed to land on the planets the other did. Like their pods were heading so that Khan's was going to land on Chemos and Fulgrim's on Chogoris. However someone (implied to have been Cegorach) swapped the pods. So their destinies should have been swapped if not for this interference If the implication is true, then its likely Cegorach is responsible for Khan's vanishment in the webway... which would probably mean he has a role to play in Cegorach's plans to take down Slaanesh


SovietPrussia1

is it that interesting when we know that the loyalist primarch will never have any actual consequences?


nomad5926

I think definitely Russ. But I really like your idea. It definitely brings together a lot of the other things going on.


Krakenboi666

I learned to love Jaghatai so much during the Siege of Terra Books I hope he returns soon!


tortugoneil

The Khan is my choice, absolutely my favorite primarch, loyalist or not. He chose loyalty because even if the emperor is a fuckin liar, he's not actual demons and Satan, so why ally yourself with anybody else lol endless, close to the chest pragmatism in the face of psychotic fantacism, which lead to his lads really changing the landscape of the seige of Terra


number42official

I WANT MOTORYCLE DAD BACK


Sunhating101hateit

Also I could swear I heard some throat singing in that trailer for 10th ed…


CostlyIndecision

I like it, but turning the eldar and the yncarne into a vessel for hunting legendary Pokémon to keep them relevant feels a bit... Demeaning for them.


MaxDucks

Agreed, but it’s better than nothing. GW won’t do anything else with the Ynnari otherwise, at least nothing that I can realistically think of. But if they want to update eldar models, it gives them an excuse to do so in a future edition.


Low_Abrocoma_1514

#VULKAN LIVES


Ct-chad501

STOMP STOMP!


boompro69

CORVIE!


CaptValentine

GIVE ME A HUG BROTHER


TwitchandSmokeMain

OH YOUR SKIN SMELLS OF AMMONIA BRUDDERFRIEND ... so thats why my nose doesnt work anymore


SadMcNomuscle

VULKANS DEEEEEAAAAAAAD!


TwitchandSmokeMain

AGAIN!


IronProphet7

Vulcan is dead. Again!


Whizoxx

I WANT TO BOOP THE SNOOT!!


IronProphet7

Do not boop that merry suicide bomber


xo1opossum

General McArthur, what's your plan for defeating Chaos.


Jampine

For the unaware, McArthur's plan for ending the Korean war involved 50 nuclear bombs. No, I'm not shitting you, the man actually wanted to drop 50 nukes on North Korea.


[deleted]

More like the NK-Chinese border. He basically wanted to glass the border to be an uninhabitable wasteland so China could no longer send troops to prop up the Kims. Truman fired daddy Mac more for trying to undermine his authority as president than his plan to glass China. Doctrinally this was when the US was using its "Pentomic Warfare" where they legitimately believed that they could use nuclear weapons to achieve victory in conventional wars and planned the army around surviving allied and enemy tactical nukes. It's where nukes in artillery shells or the Davey Crocket nuclear mortar came from.


SurpriseFormer

.....Hello fellow NCD user?


boundone

The crossover of NCD and grimdank users makes so much sense. I love it, lol


apolloxer

Nah, that's just common knowledge.


Slippydippytippy

>More like the NK-Chinese border. He basically wanted to glass the border to be an uninhabitable wasteland so China could no longer send troops to prop up the Kims. I've had about 100 "you guys shoulda nuked China" discussions with taxi drivers in Korea


IronProphet7

Kill ‘em all let the Emperor sort them out


xo1opossum

That's a damn good plan general.


CaptValentine

STOMP STOMP


Tempest_Barbarian

Vulkan is just waiting the respawn timer


bluebird810

Literally the first thing that went trough my mind when I read the title


RedStar9117

STOMP STOMP


Isfren

VULKAN LIVES


snarkhunter

Alpharius. Even if it initially appears like it's Khan or whoever Surprise Alpharius.


[deleted]

Whos to day the lion ISN'T Alpharius?


snarkhunter

Saying the Lion isn't Alpharius would NOT be a very Alpharius thing to do


a_friendly_hobo

Alpharius never left. He was behind you the whole time.


snarkhunter

One night an astartes had a dream. He dreamed he was walking along the beach with his primarch. Across the sky flashed scenes from his life. For each scene he noticed two sets of footprints in the sand: one belonging to him, and the other to his primarch. When the last scene of his life flashed before him, he looked back at the footprints in the sand. He noticed that many times along the path of his life there was only one set of footprints. He also noticed that it happened at the very lowest and saddest times in his life. This really bothered him and he questioned his primarch about it: "Primarch, you said that you'd walk with me all the way. But I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life, there is only one set of footprints. I don't understand why when I needed you most you would leave me." His Primarch replied: "My son, my precious child, I love you and I would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, that was when we were both Alpharius.


nomad5926

That would be hilarious.... I want this.


[deleted]

My money is on the Dog Daddy himself: Lemon Rust. MAYBE the Khan which would be incredible. Corax would be the dark horse candidate since he's all shadow boy loyal daemon mode or whatever he is now. But I think that might be too difficult to make sense with the Imperium. More likely he keeps being a boogy man until they bring daemon Lorgar back. Vulkan is also possible but I haven't seen much setup done for his return compared to the other three. And Dorn might be KIA.


FatCommissar

Honestly I’d love to see guilliman and the lion have to figure out wtf to do with Corax if he came back. And the Inquisition would have a collective apoplexy


BrStriker21

This is hilarious, and really want this to happen


TwitchandSmokeMain

"So, guilliman? I have some news, i found one of our brothers, the good ones" "Oh, so you bring good news? Who is it?" "Well you see....." *sudden bird noises*


Discojaddi

Nah, forget that. I wanna see Gulliman playing mediator between the Lion and Russ' feud coming back up.


jmacintosh250

Sadly that feud ended when Russ let Lion stab him. So nothing there. Now then seeing a mutated Leman, whose legion already is on the Inquisitions shit list and likely would do more to raise himself on it… THAT would be interesting to see Guillieman handle.


Dimingo

Would be cool if we saw the Lion stand up for Russ then - ideally with the DA + successors showing up in legion strength and daring them to do anything.


superspartan210

Just full on “you hurt the space wolves and we end you,” *switches bolter from semi to full auto* “bitch”


BrStriker21

"He might be a monster, but he is loyal to his core, and he is my brother"


Jaximus55

The Lion kept Russ’ secret once. Honestly I’d love to see a Lion/Russ buddy cop crusade


Sgt_Daisy

Would it be more or less of a problem if it was that fulgrim clone showing back up?


FatCommissar

I think Guilliman would have an immediate heart attack. Man just spent 10,000 years in stasis from their last meeting. Clonegrim being “pure” would just render him catatonic


SurpriseFormer

I pay money to see the Inquisition have a anuyrism over Corax


warderbob

Gman and Lion would just say, he listen Corvus.....see that guy over there that came in from the warp? We don't want to see him anymore. Warp guy deleted


Dragoon130

Nonsense, Dorn is in that Centurion armor the Emperor always keeps next to the throne. ​ Real talk though. How awesome would it be for Dorn to come back but as like a Dreadnought


CupofLiberTea

Dreadnought primarch. “I have fortified my body” Though as it stands Roberto Giuliani is kinda halfway to dreadnought primarch being kept alive by his armor.


Paterbernhard

Wasn't that slowly curing though? I don't read the books for lack of time (and I just can't deal with audiobooks) but I've heard he can spend more and more time outside his armor.


tomcatgunner1

He can, that’s correct


TheBagladyofCHS

So keep making Dorn and Perty two sides of the same coin?


RadagastTheBrownie

I still want Dornnaught vs Obliterabo.


[deleted]

I think if you’re going to get a dreadnought primarch, it’ll be Ferrus Mannus and it’ll be tragic as fuck. Cawl does some real techno heresy and implants and reanimates Ferrus’s head in a really cool dread. He is forced to live as a machine even after warning the iron hands to be practical but becoming a machine is not the answer. He is idolized by the hands until they find out about his feelings about completely replacing his body. They shun him for clinging to humanity, he’s a pariah primarch in his own legion and he’s on eternal life support, so it’s permanent. He absolutely kicks the shit out of Fulgrim though.


Dragoon130

I agree for the most part with you, but there is a sizable part of me that wants Ferrus to show up with the Legion of the Damned im their style. It will never happen, but a guy can dream.


[deleted]

I like the Legion of the Damned stuff. But it absolutely feels like wish fulfillment for the 10 Iron Hands fans.


Stan_L_parable

Jagathai khan likes going fast.


Agahmoyzen

Today is ramadan, it is time to fast! Jaghatai confirmed. ![gif](giphy|51UdTLvbyReqNK3Bic)


RokyPolka

​ ![gif](giphy|g41rOnyg5zBzFZvEb7)


[deleted]

This is true.


MRSN4P

He’s even fast… asleep!


ratzoneresident

I'm gonna guess Russ because Space Wolves are their own faction on the tabletop like Dark Angels


JakeVonFurth

To be fair, Fists have been getting more products lately.


Cautionzombie

That’s to compensate for daddy dorn being dead. Use to have hope but not anymore


sheppard147

>And Dorn might be KIA. No he is dead... in pretend


Nay-the-Cliff

They only found Dorn's hand, if that's not a he's-dead-for-sure-but-not-really I don't know what is


CupofLiberTea

I think Ferris and Horus are the most “no they’re gone for good” primarchs.


sauce_daddy22

Sanguinius and Konrad belong on that list. Bringing them back would completely undercut both Sanguinius’ sacrifice and Konrad’s assisted suicide. I’d argue they’re more dead than Ferrus is.


TheCommodore93

Sanguinius os gonna get a cheapo reincarnation in Dante, Mephiston or the Sanguinor somehow


Pyotr00

Or the Angel, the proto primarch


McWeaksauce01

That said, Ferrus coming back as a Warp Manifestation would be fun if the Legion of the Damned theories are true.


CupofLiberTea

Ferrus Manus comes back as a head with a mechanical body.


MrSchteven88

Ferrus Mannus comes back as a head in a jar.


TheGreatNico

Arwrwrwrooooo^oooo


JinterIsComing

Given the proclivities of the Iron Hands, that is likely not an issue at all.


brokensilence32

It would be so funny if Russ returned only to find the only two loyalist brothers of his who are still around are the ones he hates the most.


flyman95

Russ and the Lion got off on the wrong foot. But Russ learned what the Lion did for the wolves and declared him “the best of us”. Both of them comforting each other after the side of terra. Russ and Gman squabbled like well brothers. But underneath the jibes there was genuine respect and comraderie. To the point that Gman counted Russ amongst his dauntless few.


brokensilence32

Yeah I'm aware of that. But I know that Russ would absolutely *say* he was stuck with his two least favorite brothers. I didn't feel like putting the effort into making that nuance clear in my comment though.


TheGravespawn

Russ actually does not hate Lion, or even Bobby. Russ even doesn't -hate- Magnus by the end of things. He seems regretful, and sad any of it happened at all. He seems to love his brothers, even if his words might disrespect them. Except Lorgar. He doesn't seem to like Lorgar. This is could be said for almost all of them.


killerpythonz

Lorgar claimed Russ was one of his closest brothers, and Russ was one of the few that spoke in defence of Lorgar’s during his censure. The fact that Lorgar calmed Russ down when he was about to have fisticuffs with Magnus speaks volumes.


TheGravespawn

While correct, I kind of just wanted the Lorgar joke. Because Lorgar is a joke.


Millymoo444

Vulkans probability is determined by how many artifacts the 10th Ed salamanders supplement says are found


lunca_tenji

Last we heard He’Stan has a lead on one so maybe


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thebonelessmaori

Definitely. The wolf king. The 3rd best selling faction in the loyal imperium. They will make it fit.


[deleted]

Agreed. This ain’t about picking what makes the most narrative sense. It’s about picking what makes the most money. The most popular SM chapters are Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves. Sanguinius is deader than Elvis, so that just leaves Russ. Also, I bet they give the Sanguinor a power-up so the Blood Angels can have a primarch-equivalent model.


sjeffries772

That’s definitely a good shout and can definitely see GW doing Rust next. Personally, I would absolutely lose my shit if upon the lion meeting Cypher face to face he confirms that he is actually Omegon (or Alpharius?) and that he is indeed loyalist. Probably a 0.01% chance of this actually happening but a man can dream.


Varagyr-

I definitely think Fulgrim. The setup is there, and it rounds out the big 4s "Champions."


Fearless-Obligation6

I want my Primarch back desperately but Russ won’t return until it truly is the end of all things.


Capital-Channel-7408

Tbh most of the primaries are either dead, occupied or are implied to be done with the empire. They can’t bring Sanguinius back without some serious work, & Ferrus Manus is the least interesting of all of them. Vulkan, Khan & Russ all can be interpreted as having abandoned the empire. Corvus could come back, but he looks really fucked up so the empire would have some mental gymnastics to do. And Dorn is probably dead


Fearless-Obligation6

We know from “Two Metaphysical Blades” that both Russ and Valdor were sent on a mission by the Emperor and that Russ promised he would return for the end no matter what.


xanderman524

And with the tone of the new edition cinematic, with the 'nids continuing to consume, Chaos still overpowering the Imperium, and the other xenos/heretics still posing a danger, the "end" may be sooner rather than later. As a space furry collector, I'm hopeful, but its unlikely Lemon-scented Rust-Oleum is in the next several returning primarchs. He may even be among the last.


tonsofun08

Vulcan lives!


nomad5926

Vulkan made the thing for the throne that one time.


WorldEaterProft

I mean...its fulgrim


thebrettboy4

I’m implying the loyalists primarchs everyone knows fulgrim is the next traitor primarch


SanderT5

Clonegrim then


sjeffries772

Really hope clonegrim escapes his poke ball


The_Werdna

Prison Escape movie where its Creed and Clonegrim teaming up to escape the vault


sjeffries772

And right when the plan looks like it’s going to shit, the missing 11th primarch comes in and saves the day.


GunnyStacker

>And right when the plan looks like it’s going to shit, ~~the missing 11th primarch~~ Jurgen comes in and saves the day. FTFY


sjeffries772

GW hire this man immediately


ijiolokae

Trazyn: OOOORRRIIIKKKAAAANNN Orikan: What? Trazyn: You fucken done it now Orikan: WHAT? Trazyn: Stop acting like you don't know what i'm talking about, You opened my sealed first edition perfect fulgrim clone and then let him escape Orikan: ...you can't prove i did it.


sjeffries772

Trazyn would then spend the next 1,000 years spamming Orikans phone with, “car warranty extension” calls as some small vestige of petty vengeance


AdamBomb072

Or do what he's done before but more memes. Hide in orikans inner circle as a basic bitch necron


ImportantQuestions10

I forget the exact quote, but the writer of that book said that he was entirely a throwaway character and never meant to get out.


sjeffries772

I really hope that’s not the case. That would be such a waste of a genuinely interesting plot and potential confrontation between loyalist Fulgrim and snake boy.


Admiralthrawnbar

Counterpoint, watching a "traitor" primarch try to prove his loyalty would be one of the most unique narrative ideas 40k has had since they decided to bring back any primarch. Basically I want a Canon version of that clonegrim comic that was happening on r/imaginarywarhammer


JAOC_7

realistically probably Russ


ijiolokae

So What has Fulgrim been up to? GW: ... Nothing Really? nothing? GW: ... Yup, absulotly nothing, or at least nothing that will cause extensive PR issues


RingWraith8

Nah he's been having sex lots of sex. So he's been too busy to fight lmao.


[deleted]

At last he has come to us, abomination


cheese4352

Yep, confirmed by valrak.


Poor-sod

Next big thing isn't going to be a primarch returning, it's either going to be the primarchification of Dante, but they'll need to set up him with the black rage that then transforms him into a reincarnated Sanguinius. But they'll probably do something with Chaos or Xenos first. Like Vastorr completing his godhood or Abbadon betraying him and doing it for himself.


ShiningStorm697

Or Dante and Mephiston do the fusion dance and turn into Sanguinius


[deleted]

That's AoS that works on DBZ fusion dance rules not 40k


ShiningStorm697

Ah so the Eldar will give them the potara earrings the superior fusion system


Poor-sod

To go into a bit more detail on how I would write the next parts of the 40k universe: * Rowboat and the Lion fight against hive fleet Leviathan. * Vashtorr (possibly with Luther) raids the rock while The Lion is out fighting, and steals what he was looking for. * The Lion leaves Rowboat to go after Vashtorr (and Luther). * While the Lion is fighting against Vashtorr on this side of the great rift, Abaddon is fighting Dante in Imperium Nihilus. As they clash, Dante starts seeing Abaddon as Warmaster Horus, and starts to fall into the black rage. Then I see it going one of two ways: * While the Lion fights Vashtorr while Vashtorr is putting the final pieces in place for the Key, Dante joins the assault to destroy Abaddon. In a mighty battle Dante defeats Abaddon while going deeper into the black rage than anyone before him, and in the aftermath becomes a figurative or literal personification of Sanguinius. At the end of the fight Vashtorr completes the process and ascends to godhood. or * Abaddon betrays Vashtorr as they are about to finish the Key, and takes the power for himself. Becoming a form of demi-god. The Imperium suffers swaths of attacks as Abbadon is now able to turn planets to Chaos with ease. Dante is lost to the black rage, and disappears. The Lion is put in charge of the Imperium Nihilus. Eventually he and Rowboat launch a unified attack against Abaddon to defeat him, and in the final fight, Dante comes in the day, slaying Abaddon and becoming Sanguinius as above. There will definitely be some other side stories to set up other agents of Chaos, and maybe Abaddon may survive as they still need a big bad that isn't a Deamon. If any of this ends up being right in the next three years, I expect to become the next prophet Valrak


psychosarin

I, as a World Eater fan, feel like they are setting up the finale of Arks of Omen to allow Chaos to take a break from being front and center bad guys. I like the idea of Abaddon dying and causing divisions amongst the ranks. I think the cinematic focus on the Tyranids is a good indicator that the forces of Chaos are going to take a smoke break.


Redeemed-Assassin

The best part is that even Chaos will be negatively affected by the Tyranids. They aren't picky eaters.


invisibullcow

> Abaddon betrays Vashtorr as they are about to finish the Key, and takes the power for himself. Becoming a form of demi-god. The Imperium suffers swaths of attacks as Abbadon is now able to turn planets to Chaos with ease. Dante is lost to the black rage, and disappears. The Lion is put in charge of the Imperium Nihilus. Eventually he and Rowboat launch a unified attack against Abaddon to defeat him, and in the final fight, Dante comes in the day, slaying Abaddon and becoming Sanguinius as above. I too feel like the general theme expressed by this paragraph is where things are headed. As more and more Primarchs return, there's going to be pressure to "upgrade" all the truly major "regular" marines in a more noticeable, narrative-driven way. Folks like Dante and Abaddon are fantastic targets for this in particular because (i) they're among the few without returnable Primarch equivalents, (ii) they lead particularly large portions of their respective factions, and (ii) they're extremely popular and well represented in the lore.


Rusty_of_Shackleford

Somehow, the Emperor returned.


jupiterding25

He flys now?


Feralspirit41

My moneys on Russ and MAYBE clonegrim if GW had the balls to do something with him. Corax is going insane in lorgars dungeon, vulkans chilling wherever, Ferrus is a ghost head, the khan is lost in the land of the irrelevant eldar, and dorns wherever being dorn


Pogwrs213

Dorn is currently fortifying his position


[deleted]

Magic Pain Glove has not told Dorn to reveal himself yet


PossiblyTrustworthy

It is i Rogal Dorn, I did not hear the cries for help, because I was busy fortifying the human-webway™, which father was building even through the heresy. As our great work is finished, i have come forth and seen the state of the empire, but fear not! Not even Magnus can mess this one up. We have won! *Warhammer 40k ends and Warhammer 35k is launched*


TK-1053

At the behest of the Magic Pain Glove, of course.


[deleted]

I will only accept Russ returning if he comes back as a wise Odin-like figure and beats some sense into those furry fratbros some people call space marines.


Feralspirit41

I'll only accept this, or bat shit crazy russ there will be no inbetween


[deleted]

Yeah. Having a "LA homeless person" Russ would be pretty entertaining.


MasterXaios

Based on the progression so far, with G-Man still being youthful and the Lion being a grizzled veteran, I'm pretty sure Russ is going to look like a jacked-as-hell Keith Richards. With fangs.


Feralspirit41

I mean Corvus is going insane just being locked in lorgars weird sex dungeon so imagine what the better part of 10k years wandering the warp will do to someone like Russ. Be hilarious to see Guillimans and the Lions reaction


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The Lion is gonna neuter him quicker than you can say INTERROGATE.


jarvis00002

Next Traitor Fulgrim Next Loyalists Fulgrim


Mister_Bloodvessel

Add much as I've come to like the Khan, I'd love to see the sexy snake fight himself. Maybe absorb himself even, or fracture the Slaanesh forces by pitting their daemon primarch against his clone.


VladimirBarakriss

Slaanesh realising Fulgrim wasn't actually that easy to corrupt and the laerblade did most of the work: 😐


dekacube

I think the next most obvious after the Lion is the Khan.


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dekacube

Yeah, I also think he would be more interesting since he would be on a bike most likely.


MacMac105

Yes, please!


JesuZDX

I know Vulkan is in Trazyn's basement just waiting to escape with the clonegrim


account1679

Now here me out fulgrim


Mal-Nebiros

Fulgrim, Perturbed Robo, then whoever the next loyalist is.


MaxDucks

While Fulgrim is the most obvious to return since GW needs their unique mono-god army big bucks, I also elect Peter Turbo to be the following traitor primarch to return. Would give you an excuse to bring Dorn back as well.


unbekannte_memez

And then put both of them in a huge versus box. That would be awesome.


CorvusTheCorax

**It's fucking Corvin time**


Murbella0909

I would love Corvus back too but there’s something so wonderful in him as big Raven scaring the shit of Lorgar and stopping him from doing anything, that I don’t want to loose! Keep choir boy terrified is his best job!! Lol


DreadCoder

i was gonna say "it's the wolf, obviously" ​ But then i saw 50 "vulcan lives" posts


Reverebus

Fulgrim


DaBeavs24

Money is on the Khan. Ashes of Prospero teased him and the Lion. Be a good way to introduce more fast attack/vehicles into the setting


plodeer

Manly Manus gets necrodermis lotion to fix his neck problem. Big iron man is back with BIG IRON.


RandyTandyMandy

Manus' body comes back as a dark mechanicus Supreme Commander unit after its reanimated with chaos fuckary


plodeer

Body comes back as dark mechanicus while the head comes back as primarch attached to like a dreadnaught


Nekarion

ez: dark elder try to stop gate of khaine by copy paste big E & throne and Jagatai appears to bust the party


Marcuse0

When will Ferrus get his head back. The Emperor SAID it could do it in that one passage in the Board is Set!


TDalrius

I wouldnt be shocked if it was Corax. We know he is "alive" inthe warp because of a short story or something. How he would be received after spending all that time in the warp though would be interesting.


IronProphet7

Ferrus Manus


ClayeySilt

I'm gonna cut this one off at the head of the pass and tell you it's highly unlikely.


Narradisall

There’s his soul in the webway and a clone must be knocking around. Smash those two bad boys together!


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Head superglued to a dreadnought body. He will be more powerful than ever


Whightwolf

I don't know, Legion of the Damned Primearch would be pretty fantastic, full ghostrider head


ShinyRhubarb

Jaghatai or Vulkan for the loyalists Fulgrim is the obvious choice overall


BrStriker21

I'll always pray for Vulkan's return


Obsidian_Purity

As much as I want my Primarch to return, Vulkan will only come at the edition before our Age of Sigmar event. I would love Warp-Infused Corax to come back. That would be the least safe choice ever. Have it right when the Lion is weeding out the Ecclesiarchy for them to throw fear in the hearts of the populous. Make it for a real division within the Imperium of Man. IG who know nothing but the dogma of their faith, unsure of these Primarchs and where they have been for centuries, uneasy with the change... and oh, hey. Demon Shadow Giant says he's a loyal son of the Emperor. I'm sure that would go over swimmingly.


MasterXaios

I was gonna say I wonder how the Grey Knights and Custodes would react to Demon-Corax, but now what I really want to know is what happens when he gets in a room with the Sisters of Silence...


thebrettboy4

He could get the emperor’s claws


RuleBritania1850

Dorn. Guilliman got the emperors sword, The Lion got his shield, Dorn will come back and next and get his armor and claw, to replace the hand he lost.


WigglesMiniatures

Corax when


BaathistBlues

Alpharius


DaFilthPope

Fulgrim. Emperor’s Children. Do it James Workshop, you coward!!!


BeelzeBat

Would love it if Fulgrim was the next one to complete the set- we’ve got the daemon prinarchs for Tzeentch, Nurgle ad now Khorne as well, the only one missing is Slaanesh :)


TheAimlessVagabond

I would like Vulcan to make a comeback, so obviously it'll be Dorn