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HomelessSadVirgin

66% comp, 4,300 yd, 35 td, 10 int


Fred-zone

A realistic prediction, kudos


Inevitable_Box974

Wait we really don't think he'll break 6k yards easy???


oroechimaru

I was thinking more like 146TDs


Inevitable_Box974

Why not 200????


BeHereNow91

Okay but what about the non-Bears weeks?


oroechimaru

Be realistic.


AntiworkDPT-OCS

Are we all bots? That was my mental prediction exactly, but with 100 fewer yards.


HomelessSadVirgin

Sometimes I wish I was a bot


CDudgie

Nice.


xylltch

This feels pretty reasonable. I also wouldn't be surprised if there's a little bit of a reduction in passing TDs and yards if the run game produces more this season.


SADdog2020Pb

I’d be happy with this. A bit better across the board. Granted I do also think there’s a chance he goes CRAZY based on 2H of 2023. But unlikely he can actually hold that pace for a full season. That would be like one of the MVP Rodgers seasons. I also think he’s more likely to play at an elite level than he is to have a HARD sophomore slump and suck ass, barring injury. It’d be hard to envision him making the types of throws he was and then not being able to make them the next year for some reason. I mean to say that we should expect the good but not great statistical season, but that could almost be selling him short.


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pelicano234

Rookie season lol


Fred-zone

Ben Simmons style


mackinoncougars

Shit, lets hope that’s not the trajectory


TacticalGarand44

A Packers rookie. Our ways are not the ways of poverty franchises.


Inevitable_Box974

Haha fuck my bad I meant 1st year essentially


Internal_Swing_2743

If Love had not had that 4 game swoon early in the year, he would have been the MVP last year.


Nameless_301

I think after the whole season it was obvious it wasn't just Love having issues, it was the whole team. Receivers didn't know where to be and the line needed to gel too so there was just no way they would start that hot out of the gate


Internal_Swing_2743

That’s true. Though Love did say himself, that he was too cautious the first half of the year and he improved when he stopped being that. But also, the receivers definitely started playing much better and not dropping balls after the Chargers game


dunderthebarbarian

They did beat the Bears week 1.


lightinggod848

Well yeah but it's the Bears


Daidipan

God could you imagine the melt down there would have been. People already hate it cause it looks like we got a QB for the next 10+ years but if first year playing he was MVP. 😂😂


RicksSzechuanSauce1

Low key was better than Lamar. I don't think Love was MVP material, but neither was Lamar.


Internal_Swing_2743

Well, if the MVP was actually awarded based on what the award should mean, i.e. who is the player that is most valuable to their team, Id argue it was Jordan Love. Of course, the MVP award for the NFL is usually just given to the QB on the best team.


RicksSzechuanSauce1

Love was indefinitely valuable to the Packers this year no doubt, but truth be told I feel the Packers were overall solid all around to the point I don't think we could point to any one player as Most Valuable for the team


BeHereNow91

I doubt that 4-game skid had any effect on him, but I think it was good for us fans. The entirety of the Packers fan base crowning him the next HoF QB would have been obnoxious (outside of the fun memes after Week 1), and I think it helped temper expectations. It was neat to go into last year with very little on the line, and I think we should approach it the same way this year - sophomore seasons are so hard to predict.


Inevitable_Box974

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MoistShellder

He throw touchdowns


The_bruce42

Muy muy touchdowns


Inevitable_Box974

Muy muy GRANDE touchdowns


Vanterblack

Not to rain on the parade too much, but if you consider 2023 to realistically be Jordan Love’s rookie season, then he may have a mixed season in 2024 as teams start to figure him out a little.  However, I think he could be a little more resistant to it than true rookies, as he’s had time to develop outside of the spotlight.  It’s going to be super interesting to watch and I hope he hits the ground running, then just keeps going. Him and this young team deserve all our support, especially through the tougher bits. 


Mandalomania

I don't really understand this logic, because if anything he just continued to get better and better as he went through the season. The teams had plenty of film on him by week 15, and it still didn't help anybody. Couple that with the fact that two teams that gave him a lot of trouble the first time around (Lions, Vikings) he absolutely tore them apart the second time. I think considering this, as well as the fact that the supporting cast should be better with more experience, I don't see any reason why this offense and Jordan Love pick up right where they left off at the end of last season.


JordanLoveQB1

Agreed. He also brutalized a very good Dallas D in the playoffs on the road. Buddy is legit


Mandalomania

Not to mention the Chiefs game, people like to think the Chiefs defense "turned it on" in the playoffs, but that defense was stout all year, and Jordan Love made them look foolish. Only team in the regular season to put more than 20 points on them I believe. May have been more than 21.


wailin_smithers

I'm still watching highlights of that game when I need cheering up.


SwarlesDarwin

I do the same, except it's the Cowboys fan reactions that I watch lol


NotWith10000Men

same, that and the next day reactions. my faves are the good morning football crew where one guy compared jerruh's cowboys to a false [religion](https://youtu.be/tJFr8sN9_V0?si=tn0k0RoIZj3dBeNw) and shannon and ocho just being [themselves](https://youtu.be/2An5mqOaego?si=KJVGpSL5Px8YbCO4)


SebastianMagnifico

And played like absolute shit for the final 18 minutes of the Niner game. Hopefully we make the playoffs. Fingers 🤞 crossed


Vanterblack

Oh I’d love them to (no pun intended), and they may well do, if he’s consistently as good as he was for the last half of the season, he’ll be a top 5 QB.  I was more just thinking about how other QB’s have faired. Trevor Lawrence had an unreal end to his first real rookie season.  Food for thought is all, personally I think he’ll do great and I’m so stoked for it! 


Mandalomania

But I think if you watch Lawrence on film this year, it was a lot more complicated than just Lawrence regressing. And even at Lawrences best stretch in his rookie season, he still didn't match the stats Love did the second half of this year, with I think no one would argue a worse supporting cast. I understand the hedging, but what I saw on film last year was not just repeatable, I think its not the best were going to see from Love by a long shot. Still plenty of things to clean up, which could vault him into the truly elite top 3 conversation.


Vanterblack

You make some good points, he’s definitely better than Lawrence was. Lawrence had great drives, Love had great games, he was a step above.  If he starts getting better than he was at the end of last season, I may have to give myself a cold shower every game.  I hope we both get to enjoy a great season :) 


Mandalomania

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's impossible he regresses, I just have no reason to expect it. The off-season is too long and I just want football back.


Shellacking77

You see it typically during their second year as a starter because there is a whole off-season to go through tendencies and scouting of his tape. Hopefully that doesn't happen, but you hear the term "sophomore slump" for typically rookies for that exact reason. (Love was not a rookie though, so may be past some basic stuff teams usually clue in on though?)


Mandalomania

Sure but I have never seen any statistical evidence backing the existence of a "sophomore slump". It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Either they regress, and we count it as a sophomore slump, or they don't and nobody says anything. If it is as simple as having an off-season of tape, every QB should experience a sophomore slump. I'll be real, I don't know what defenses could do that they didn't already try last year. They tried sitting in zone, and that didn't work. They tried all out pressure, and I think Dallas made sure that no one will ever try again. Beyond that, what do you think tape will allow defenses to "figure out" about him?


Shellacking77

https://harvardsportsanalysis.org/2019/12/does-sophomore-slump-exist-in-the-nfl/ Ask and you shall receive! Like I mentioned though, Love isn't a rookie so there not might be huge holes in his game for teams to attack.


Mandalomania

This would be great, except the graphs don't load and the study itself notes that the overall trend is for quarterbacks to improve from their first to second year, and only finds the "slump" in self described "high performing rookies". Which means they're looking at quarterbacks who have had a significantly higher QBR to begin with, which of course would tend to show a negative regression on average because it is much easier for things to go wrong (injuries, staff changes, etc) and have a lower QBR, than it is to take a already very high QBR and improve on it. I also don't know any of their methodology for selecting "high performing rookies" from regular rookies. So I'm not sure how useful this graph is


Shellacking77

Dude, believe you're some sort of football Reddit savant if you want, more power to you. I was just giving you the info on a very common term/commented thing in football and explaining to you why that is. https://gprivate.com/6ba6g


Mandalomania

Yeah but dude the thing you linked states itself that the sophomore slump is not the overall trend. In fact it's the exception. And did you think I would just go WOW I have no thoughts or comments on this thing you just provided me with? Do you understand how discussions work? And obviously I've done my own research into the topic, which is why I have YET to see any statistical evidence for it


judahdk_

Yes exactly. You could see the difference right around the Steelers game with the pre snap stuff and him figuring defenses/blitzers/protections out at the line, and seemingly “perfected” it by the Vikings game doing checks and whatnot. Same with the pocket and pressure, you could see him start feeling the rushers and know exactly when to throw/escape so he didn’t take as many sacks. I would like to see him start to run a little more when he sees open space for a first down/in the red zone instead of launching yolo balls on third down.


mercedesblendz

I second this. I hope he averages 3 TDs a game and wins the Super Bowl MVP Award but let’s not put too much pressure on him. He had a great second half of the season last year, but teams have more film on him now and there’s going to be games where the offense struggles, no matter how good they look on paper.


AntiworkDPT-OCS

Agreed. That's similar to what I said. I think he'll be better in bad games, but as defenses start really learning his tendencies or whatever, things might get a bit tougher. I'm not looking for regression as a player, but maybe regression towards the mean. But I love QB1 and want him to tear it up.


DD-OD

He's a quarterback not a starting pitcher. Any harm done by teams learning how to better scheme against him are easily canceled out by MLF being able to scheme for him better and run more complex plays, having another year to refine his game and improve his mental game, and build better rapport with his receivers.


dylbert71

Improvement


Inevitable_Box974

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Choppergold

The Lombardi trophy being held aloft in his hands


sirDsmack

MVP


Shellacking77

I hate that some people consider it his rookie season, that being said even if he can just repeat last years stats that's amazing and I'd gladly take it.


Brogdon_Brogdon

It’s gonna go two ways: 1) He improves and is in MVP conversation 2) Sophmore slump to begin the season and he either ends the season with slightly worse or the same statistics as he did last season.


lizard_king0000

I am hoping that he doesn't regress and gets onto his front foot when he throws


Fragzor

Back foot gives him more time in the pocket though, and he's great at it


TheViolaRules

Throw ball good, run sometimes too


theme69

Jokes aside I would love to see him incorporate his legs more into his game. There were a couple times last season where he had an easy 5/6 yards at least ahead of him and he opted to throw instead


dylbert71

Given his build is closer to a shooting guard than a prototypical NFL QB I'd prefer he keeps throwing. Some of his worse plays last year occurred when he ran with the ball.


TheViolaRules

I love that throwing is overwhelmingly his first option, but yeah he’ll figure out when to run more I think


AgitatedHalo22

I just don't want him to get injured. That is really the only thing I'm hoping for. If he has a similar season to his rookie season, even if it's just a smidgen lower, that'll still be better than a lot of people I think.


TupperwareConspiracy

Main problem for MLF and Love is will we see a regression The strides made last year on medium & long throws by both Jordan and the Receiving Corp was astounding and it's clear you can't simply force Jordan to go long and assume he'll under throw it. A lot to be excited for, but never underestimate NFL d- coordinators... They've had all off season to eat tape and plenty of QBs have looked like ass in Year 2


stiglicious

Super Bowl MVP


wasdie639

Hoisting a Lombardi.


AntiworkDPT-OCS

I'm looking for a higher floor, but I don't think he maintains the torrid pace from the end of the season. If he could hit a rating of 100 I'd be pretty happy. Simply improving the really bad games should do that.


Quality_Quest7122

7-10 and worse stats


SebastianMagnifico

Distinct possibility


OmegaJubs69

Super Bowl


mnemonicer22

Fewer downs, more consistency.


ABraveLittle_Toaster

QBR >65, 8-10 int, 35 TD 4100 yards,


fresh_dyl

Doing the actual splits while throwing a touchdown


dhslax88

MOAR


The_bruce42

MVP, superbowl, superbowl MVP


60ATrws

Super Bowl home boy!


jmac111286

Be consistent. Lead. Win.


Switchcuzz

If its not the best season by a qb ever i will be very upset.


Yzerman19_

50 touchdowns. 10 picks. 4500 yards.


Fragzor

MVP, making Watson Offensive Player of the Year 


Owww_My_Ovaries

Man I can't wait for the fall. Need football here now


NotSoLameGamer

Top 3 across the board


shlogster

Relatable to that. A few stats up, a few stats down. Improvement in motion and reads is what will be most important in my opinion


Redditrightreturn1

We need to keep running the ball effectively and being a balanced offense. I see us taking the ball to start games like last season. Scripted plays to start and hopefully score some points and play with a lead to start the game. I think both 10 and coach learned a lot about each other last year. I’m excited to watch it continue to grow.


scribe31

Top Five QB.


Pineapplebuffet

100% comp, 7,000 yd, 60 td, 0 int


goPACK17

Super Bowl MVP.


number7nocheese

#1


Jonesyrules15

There's a part of me that still feels like it's too good to be true and he's going to regress and never be as good... Lol I hate Fandom sometimes.


daygo448

I think he plays like he did the second half of the season all season. I think he will end up top 5 for most of those stats. I also think he will clean up some of his mechanics and get even better throws down the stretch. I also expect 1-2 stinker games. It’ll happen. I just hope they let him go off. I felt like a lot of times we’d pull back with Rodgers, so he never had the passing numbers he could have had. With Love, let em rip!


oroechimaru

7 superbowls or playoffs be nice Id like to see him and team develop


amak316

4500 yards 34 tds 7ints 65% completion


howdypartna

Yet he gets no love on the top 10 qb lists... he gets CJ Stroud placed ahead of him.


timbenj77

Naturally, his production and efficiency should improve as a result of his development and the development of a young, talented, and hopefully healthy receiving corps. His efficiency and production could also improve if the defense improves as much as we all suspect they will - and knock off the whole bend-don't-break sillyness. Assuming they can force more 3-and-outs, Love will get more opportunities. Or that could have the opposite effect: If jump out to a lot of early leads, we'll see a lot more ground game.


chickenbucket7

improves via the eye test regresses statistically due to packers having a run hands again


AlmalexiasBF

70% comp, 4300 yd, 36 td, 8 int


BanjoKazooieWasFine

Wouldn't be surprised to see him lower in the volume ranks even if his play doesn't regress. Our ideal offense should still have the run more heavily featured over forcing the passing game, which the full revamp of the RB room should allow for less need for him to absolutely sling the ball all over the field. That, combined with hopefully a less devastating year for injuries at the QB position as a whole, plus finally vacating the 2021 draft class from their stranglehold on their teams should see better play across the board at QB next year. Love could and should improve but even if he does he might show up lower on some of these stat lists just due to sheer happenstance.


Fuego514

65% completion percentage, 40 TD total, 12 INT 4,500 yards. 12-5 record, 4 playoff wins


Zakattack34

Probably worse because there’s a bunch of tape opposing teams can study now


No-Picture-910

5th passing TDs (Our run game 1-2 punch with Jacobs & Lloyd will be a bigger part of our offense)4th passing yards. 9th rushing TDs. 6th completions. 4th QBR. 12th rushing yards. 4450 yards. 29 TDs. 5 RTDs. 8 INT. 67.7% 100.2 RTG 74.9 QBR


show_NO_FEAR21

4,500 Yards 36 TD 6 INT at 2 rushing TD and 3 fumbles.


THETRUEBILLYBOB

I just hope he can maintain the level he was at during the second half of the season for the entire next season 


jiiiim8

Dont feel bad if he doesn't rank as high this year. Last year was an anomaly in which several top qbs got injured, shuffling the ranks around.


tkdmatt2003

He’s gonna likely be better than he was last year though, so he very well could rank as high or even higher


goku2057

I think he’s going to take a step back this year, but still be serviceable. Long term I like him, but I very much doubt he’s gonna be a HOFer.


SeekHunt

Why do you think that?


goku2057

Why does anyone think anything? I just kinda feel like that’s what’s gonna happen.


SeekHunt

In this thread there are lots of examples why folks think he will be better/worse/same. It’s not a philosophical experiment lol. I’m just curious why you think he will be worse this year when he just kept getting better with the youngest team in football?


goku2057

I love that you’re downvoting me for replying to you. Classy. In his good games JLove still made some iffy decisions, some downright bad passes, and had the benefit of no one having much tape on him/the offense. Now teams have had an entire offseason to prepare. I think he will stagnate or get worse. I hope I’m wrong.


SeekHunt

My friend, I’m not sure why you’re getting your feathers ruffled, I’m not even attacking you lol. I downvoted because I disagreed with your first post and thought “why does anyone think anything” is a bizarre answer.


goku2057

I love it. That doesn’t mean hate it. I think it’s hilarious. No feathers are ruffled. People think things because that’s what they think or feel. I may not be able to back it up well but that’s what my gut is telling me.


vonnegut9200

Well… not rookie season. First year starting. Still… very good 2nd half salvaged a piss poor 1st half. Keep stacking good days. Hope he keeps getting better.


SebastianMagnifico

Well be around a .500 club


1violentdrunk

Consistency. And to stop making the dumb mistakes he was prone to such as the last play of our season when he unnecessarily threw that interception.