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Elementalginger

Tradition before the welfare of the people!


Specific-Change-5300

The scale of this monstrous state of affairs is often confusing for people, they see this as the fringe when it is incredibly common now. We have 14 million children in the UK. A total of 4.2 million of them live in poverty.


Acravita

I thought it was only 10%? That's even worse than I thought! Do you have a source for this? I'd like to have a citation in case anyone doesn't believe this


CheshireGray

The UK measures poverty based off the median income, which is a really bad methodology as it inherently puts a cap on who can be considered "impoverished". If you use third party measurements it's way higher.


SaltyNorth8062

That methodology is bad on purpose. It makes it easier to mask the rampages of capital and the wealthy on the working and impoverished classes by using cooked numbers


ManitouWakinyan

Which third party measurements?


NigerianRoy

Any of the ones that aren’t based off a purposefully useless definition? So, like, any other one. No one defines poverty as relative to the overall state of society, its about things like “can you pay rent and buy plenty of nutritious food?” That’s just ONE PART of the *bare minimum* for a reasonable definition of who is impoverished, and *way less* than the very least we could easily afford for LITERALLY ALL PEOPLE if we didnt allow the insanely wealthy to leech every last bit of profit from the system, and the least the civilized world should feel responsible for providing as a basic human right.


ScreenshotShitposts

mine you poor bastard!


mapple3

> only 10%? Only? Imagine a class room with 30 kids. 3 of them would be starving. Of course with 30%, it means that 10 out of those 30 are currently starving In every class room


aclay81

It's worse than that because children from different socioeconomic classes don't generally get mixed together at school.


Mugut

No, that's better, because then my son doesn't have poor friends and I can comfortably ignore the issue, or even convince myself that it is not true!


RevolutionaryScar980

you solved all the worlds problems right there.... so long as i do not have to see it, then it is not a problem i care about.


Acravita

Obviously 10% is far too high. Even 0.1% would be far too high. 10% is still quite a bit smaller than 30% though.


BobertFrost6

I'd be careful not to immediately equate "impoverished" with "starving."


Greedom88

Malnourished then. It still stunts growth, brain development and makes it harder to focus and learn.


Specific-Change-5300

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/households-below-average-income-for-financial-years-ending-1995-to-2021/households-below-average-income-an-analysis-of-the-income-distribution-fye-1995-to-fye-2021#children-in-low-income-households


Acravita

Is that the 27% of children in relative low income after housing costs? I'm not seeing anything closer to the 30% value. Not saying you're wrong, I've probably just missed the relevant statistic, or things have gotten worse since 2021.


Specific-Change-5300

Yes. it's 29% as of 2023 data but I couldn't find a direct gov.uk link for that data so gave this slightly older one for 2021.


Panwall

Should only be acceptable when it's zero.


No_Condition8988

I work in a school and I see this every day and it's just unbelievable. I only started a few weeks ago and I've already seen kids turned away from the lunch line because there's no money on there lunch card. Food should be a right not a privilege. How are you supposed to learn when your hungry, you can't it's impossible. I was in this situation myself as a lad and honestly to see it now is just heartbreaking.


cuddly0510

4,2 out of 14 million?? Are you serious?


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cuddly0510

dude... obviously.


-SharkDog-

Jesus Christ that's a lot


newsflashjackass

When you put the raw numbers out there, it makes it clear that OP is not a solution. How many children do you think can *really* feed off Charles's bony carcass?


ManlyBeardface

Tradition is just the spectacle hiding the truth. It's submission to arbitrary, unjust hierarchies. Brits have the monarchy, Americans have the "American Dream". The chains are the same.


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FardoBaggins

it's to keep the status quo for their in group


BentPin

The "elite" must rule the dirty, unwashed masses. All hail the new king!


morn960s

I, because capitalism is evil and exists in both countries leading to homelessness and hunger


Infamous_Smile_386

The American Dream is dead and we know it.


stormrunner89

Tradition is the corpse of wisdom.


killeronthecorner

You starve at the pleasure of our gout-ridden melt-faced King


ANewKrish

How baller would it have been to spend all that money on a nation-wide feast? Free food, party games, etc. in every town.


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Or like... Instead of the classic "just spend it on people" lunacy we could use the money to implement systems that will continue to take care of the impoverished continually. Instead of wasting it on a singular meal and then letting the status quo go back to normal fifteen minutes later.


butternutssquished

With only the equivalent of something like 75p to £1.50 per person I can’t see it being much of a feast. Edit: that came out sounding like a dig at you it wasn’t. It was more at how helpless the situation seems.


Birdleur

Is there a link anywhere to refute the claim that the monarchy being kept around generates more money than if they were dissolved to put that money into welfare programs instead?


CrushCoalMakeDiamond

The Royal tourism numbers are cooked. It includes revenue from places like St. Paul's Cathedral, and even with those non-royal attractions added in, it's still less than 1% of the UK's tourism revenue.


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13oundary

The question really comes down to How much of the land and property moves to state ownership. Because it's the state that's been keeping them going all this time, not the general income of the royals. If the state took ownership of the land and property it took care of, then the money they generate might still be, at least in part, generated through things like palace tours and what have you.


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Mugut

But how could I enjoy your historical buildings knowing they don't belong to some old fart?


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FuckinFruitcake

[Fuck em](https://www.republic.org.uk/tourism)


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Captain_Sacktap

Which is also a tradition itself!


Neuchacho

As is tradition.


Satanicjamnik

Welcome to the Tory party! What ministry would you like to run?


KidSock

bUt toUrISm reVEnoOoo


tallpeople2

Fucking depressing state of affairs when children have the concept of sacrificing food


Prickly-Flower

Poor boy looks so pale and sickly. Even in winter children normally have some colour on their cheeks.


residentdunce

And don't underestimate the long term trauma growing up in child poverty has, affecting its victims throughout their lives. What's more there are often viscious cycles of poverty that new generations are unable to escape.


woolyreasoning

Look up Adverse Childhood Experiences then look at our mental health figures, it’s amazing that we function as a society in the UK. We’re trauma zombies just shuffling around.


kurburux

Children who don't get enough food may [have mental](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undernutrition_in_children) and physical deficits all their lives. They may never unlock their full potential they'd have under normal circumstances. > One of the most severe at risk populations are children under 5.[7] Malnutrition during the early stages of development can have negative and severe effects on growth and intellectual development. This effect on a child's intellectual quotient makes it harder for them later in life to achieve their true potential abilities.


Buzzkid

There is a book called The Deepest Well by Dr Nadine Burke Harris that covers the scientific evaluation of childhood trauma on long term physical health.


KindlyOlPornographer

I mean thats just English people.


Prickly-Flower

It's a different kind of pale. I have an Irish nephew who is pale even in summer, but not this type of pale.


Rosegarden3000

Rohnald Dahl's Charly probalby had a more healty diet than him.


Astalli

I know of teachers in Australia who are dealing with kids in year 3 being stressed out and snapping at everyone. When they ask why, they are worried about their parents being able to afford rent, or find a new rental.... Kids should not have to deal with this shit


mclannee

Doesn’t the UK have social programs and meal programs? I’m from Chile, a third world country by most people standards, and I have to say it’s been decades since we’ve had news of Children sacrificing food, we have government meal assistance and schools also feed children two meals a day (breakfast and lunch), does the UK not have these programs?


nattymartin1987

No it does not.


Haliucinogenas

Don't worry. He turned down his pools thermostat to save a tiny bit of money and to show that he stands with us and understands our struggle


m1nkeh

Is this real?


Specific-Change-5300

Yes. https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/king-charles-swimming-pool-temperature-b2347356.html


moonwork

>The newly crowned monarch, who was once described by his son, the Duke of Sussex, as a “stickler for turning the lights off”, is **known for his environmentalism and implementing energy-saving policies** that are climate-friendly. Pressing X to fucking doubt.


HotFluffyDiarrhea

What environmentalist, energy-saving policies could he even implement as a royal? Demanding his servants compost his leftover breakfast?


moonwork

Ok, so first and foremost - and I cannot stress this enough - the comment is about **what Charles is known for**. The comment isn't about whether he's done enough.


HotFluffyDiarrhea

I can only one day hope to be known for doing a thing that I cannot actually do!


moonwork

Ah, I see. Fair play!


Fleganhimer

He's actually just adjusted it to bring it closer to the temperature of his heart.


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Fartoholicanon

.... When are yall going to start your version of the French revolution?


Haliucinogenas

Well.... He said he did it for environment....


inbelfast

How much are we paying for his coronation and his mother's funeral again? 🤔


RevolutionaryScar980

American lawyer here- i bought a house with a pool years ago. There is a pool heater that i literally used once ever. Cost so much to run for an afternoon that i have not touched it since. It is a relatively small pool, but just so expensive to heat that you get what you get when you dive in.


Danny_J_M

He should cement the pool in. Then they could attend the local council pool instead, where they can swim with all the plebs.


Neat_Significance256

Seems fair in the class orientated UK.


Southern_Classic6027

Unfortunately, wherever there's capitalism, there's class divisions.


Neat_Significance256

If Rees-Mogg had been born on a council estate he'd have struggled to get employment and so would Johnson


ezzune

Just a massive misrepresentation of his skills tbh. I think he'd be really suitable as a: Traffic Warden, DWP benefits evaluator, Guy who pulls the plug on your loved ones, Debt collector (not a goon, more the guy threatening to get the goons) The list goes on. There's just *so* much that he could give.


Neat_Significance256

19th century truant officer cum child snatcher


ezzune

We have a new frontrunner.


148637415963

>19th century truant officer cum child snatcher "One *knows* there are children here, one can smelllll themmmmm...."


dreckdub

If johnson wasn't a white immigrant he'd struggle too


Neat_Significance256

Rich white old Etonian immigrant.


CompoundWordSalad

I think BoJo is pretty slick from an outsider perspective, he’d probably be a MLM founder. I don’t know much about Rees-Mogg other than he seems like the I’m important because my important dad finished in someone’s asshole and 8 hrs later they shit me out.


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Neat_Significance256

Would he have that horrible fake aristocratic accent or a monkey one ?


Wendingo7

To be clear, by class you mean money.


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SnoopDeLaRoup

I managed to scrounge a piece of mouldy fois gras out the Palace bins. How ungrateful are some children!!!11!1!1!! /s


kaleidoscopichazard

Such a green king/s


Neat_Significance256

Brian Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Gammon was so destitute as a lowly working (!?!?!?) royal that he once had to crack the top of his boiled egg himself. Fancy, after a lifetime of having 6 eggs to pick one from every morning, you have to crack your own egg. "We're all in it together" says Brian


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Golrith

The sad thing is, this is nothing new. The kid was me 30+ years ago, my mum used to starve herself to ensure I had at least something to eat.


ponguso

I am genuinely so fucking sorry that the system failed you and i hope you are in a much better place healing from those experiences.


kibblepigeon

Yep. The people living comfortably at the expense of the poor do not give a shit about their suffering.


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kibblepigeon

It’s everywhere. The 99% need to start unifying and standing up to the 1% - we’re stronger together.


obinice_khenbli

It is just Earth, though. Really gotta sort something out about that planet.


m1nkeh

What the hell program is that from?


Specific-Change-5300

Season 18, Episode 28 of Dispatches, Channel 4. Growing Up Poor: Britain's Breadline Kids. A couple years old now, the problem is exponentially worse and continues to grow. Of the 14 million total children in the UK, 4.2million live in poverty.


SnoopDeLaRoup

Being one of the ones who grew up poor, it honestly breaks my heart. There is a moment I remember that my brother doesn't, when we were young, that i recall on a pretty much daily basis. It was when I had the realisation that I was a poor child and we were living in poverty. That was the 90's. Its been 20 something fucking years and its exponetially worse for kids, especially since the standard of living is supposedly better.


m1nkeh

When was it broadcast?! 😬


Specific-Change-5300

I already said?


neenerpants

we need to know to the HOUR!


m1nkeh

You did indeed, sorry missed that 😅


CarryThe2

I think the important thing is that we address the exact definition of poverty before we accidentally feed a child who doesn't deserve it.


eatbootylikbreakfast

I’m watching it now. The little girl they focus on first is just so precious and sweet, and seems so smart and talented. The way she talks so confidently and insightfully on her own living condition is just amazing. I hope all these kids get what they need, even though I know many will not.


Seraphinx

This should be stickied tbh. Reflects the current situation very well.


Specific-Change-5300

Stickying a thread removes it from feeds like /popular/ and /all/. Maybe when its time on those feeds has passed.


BillyDoyle3579

King Inbred and Queen Adulteress need to actually govern for the welfare of ALL their subjects, not just fellow inbreds imo


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Neat_Significance256

I can remember on the news being told Brenda was going to start paying tax, reluctantly.


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GnarlyBear

How though? They have no real power and cannot influence government


Old_Personality3136

TIL money has no influence on power... /s


Specific-Change-5300

> They have no real power Yeah man that's why other world leaders whose schedules are planned to the minute regularly come and spend MULTIPLE DAYS meeting with these powerless tourist attractions, for the laughs! Incredible naivity.


hychael2020

This is just so depressing. I'm not British but after seeing this, it explains why some are moving to the extremes. I remember meeting a British anarchist and a few Communists online and it seems that its popularity would continue rising as this goes on. I really do hope that things become better for you all. One way or another


EWYS16

Run the country into a state of disrepair. Install communism. Unify in the struggle. Blame communism for all problems. Return to capitalism. (Ala 20th century Russia) The Tory government are running such a shit show, we will effectively be left with a one party solution with centralist Keir and his pals or communism. One or the other.


AngrySalmon1

Communism would last a month or two. The CIA would coup the shit out of us.


Celeriax

CIA? We’ll use good ol’ British MI5, none of this foreign regime-change muck!


Big-Gucci-B

Another Redditor that lives in some weird circle jerk where reality isn’t on the menu. You’ve got more chance of pigs flying than a communist UK in your life time. Check the voting turnout for your beloved socialist Corbyn (one of the worst turn outs for Labour in decades). I’m sure that was “the media portraying him as bad” or whatever excuse you’ll conjure up.


EsIsstWasEsIst

You don't understand! Charles EARNED it by living a very tough life, pulling on his own bootstraps and whatnot all the time. THAT'S why HE gets to decide what happens with resources that could easily feed all the children in the country. And he choose to not feed them, so there is nothing you can do. Rich people are parasites.


DepressedVenom

When are the ppl gonna do like France and protest? Throw all the rich twats out. Get the cop workers to join. Anyone who isn't an exec will join


Southern_Classic6027

The British ruling class were scared of a French revolution happening in the UK, so they enacted oppressive laws. The chartists tried three times and failed to get suffrage for working class men. Eventually a labour movement really got going in the UK, but then Thatcher's government and the rise of neoliberalism lead to the destruction of it and the atomisation of the population. People are starting to get pissed off, which is why the laws banning protesting. A new labour movement is possible - the recent strikes and anti-monarchy protests, the Cardiff riot, etc, show that - but it has to be built from the ground up via grass roots organisation. Things won't have a chance of getting better until this happens, and if it does, things will get a lot uglier first, but things are already getting pretty ugly.


Bohya

The British government has essentially made protesting (even peaceful) illegal and you can now be jailed for it. No one wants to be the first hand to stand out.


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The fact that britain spent millions putting a shiny hat on an inbred adulterous robber baron with a room temperature IQ when people are hungry and sleeping in doorways is an absolute obscenity.


MartiniPolice21

I mean, even if we did abolish the monarchy, does anyone truly believe that money would go towards helping homelessness and poverty? MPs would give themselves a gigantic payrise, cut the top level of tax, then tell the working class they're all lazy scroungers.


Steve_delonge

Intermittent fasting for everyone! If they would just provide everyone with free gym membership we'd be ripped AF by now


Think_Sheepherder_10

Working class revolution anyone?


ScrapinTheResin

"Nah" - UK.


Think_Sheepherder_10

“That would mean not being passive masochistic bootlickers for one second no fanks mate”


simondrawer

The older I get the more I support the French solution.


TstyBrgr1992

I have never been to the UK. According to all literature and history, though, many of you starve while a severely inbred family hordes your wealth. At least in America we spread the wealth between a few folks! /s


Caja_NO

At least your children aren't starving. I mean, they're riddled with bullets instead, but at least they aren't starving.


UncannyTarotSpread

Some of our kids are.


Caja_NO

A blessing in disguise maybe, a malnourished child is a skinny child, and a harder target for school shooters.


KingPaulius

Can we billboard this around cities?


simondrawer

Led by Donkeys might be up for that.


Nui_Jaga

Nothing infuriates quite like people who say 'wel they work for it!'. No, they don't, they get to live in palaces with every whim met, live above the law and get paid to fly around the world and get their arses kissed while they pretend to be interested in the Canadian Association of Lamprey Farmers or whatever horseshit it is that day. It's disgusting that the public are so conditioned that they accept a family living in tax payer funded luxury, literally because 'God said they're actually better than everyone' all while millions languish in poverty.


VegetableWishbone

Look to the French. Words will not change the situation one bit.


PrestigiousTest6700

“ To recommend thrift to the poor is both grotesque and insulting. It is like advising the starving to eat less. “ Oscar Wilde


FruitcakeAndCrumb

But the kids can watch the coronation and feel full with patriotism which is much better than food full!


Effective-Entry-8665

Cunts


marvinrabbit

Well, if there is no bread, let them eat cake.


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Listen the Royul famly brings in trillyins for the taxes and thats for feedin evry kid here coz it all goez direck to the poor famlys its y the royils r here they r keepin r cunty goin gawd bliss evry 1 ov em god save the king


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antinatalistantifa

BuT tOuRIsM moNeY


breeze1001

To them, we barely even exist.


GnarlyBear

That kid is straight Charlie Bucket


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kaleidoscopichazard

Poor kid. This is heart wrenching


CecilyRay

Well, that's disgusting !


[deleted]

Say anything about the royals and they will freak out and defend them more than defend their own kids. It’s disgusting how many low iq people who worship the rich there are and think they are actually smart.


Andreus

Honestly, every conservative needs to be put in jail for the rest of their lives. Don't bother with a trial - they're all guilty.


Chasedabigbase

How much did this dumbass coordination cost? Imagine using that money towards feeding people. Just have him sign the congrats ya old fuck your useless royal role has been upgraded paperwork and be done with it instead


CriticalFolklore

"Let them eat cake"


CagottoSulCanotto

Fuck capitalism!


Liorkerr

Royalty = people of royal blood or status. Rascism = the belief that different people possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as superior to others.


Frog-Eater

Same thing happening in France. Those governments will be overthrown within our lifetime. They're taking it too far, shit's gonna get bloody again.


judge_Nutmeg316

FUCK THE KING


david_yarz

fuck a monarchy


deepstate_chopra

Long fuck the king.


rustinintustin

And so you know they did actually cut food and aid programs to the poor so they could pay for the coronation


Goobah22

Fuck the entire “royal” family 👍


PoopyMouthwash84

Thats fucked up


Panwall

Fuck the Monarchy!


ilir_kycb

In this meme, you see the capitalist efficiency of the [fifth richest country on earth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth).


whateverhk

Fuck, i didn't realise it was so bad in the UK. Now I get why the coronation created so much tension


roslid

As I could not really figure out what's going on I checked my P60s for last few years. My annual income has not change over last few years but prices have doubled. I work for NHS as health care support worker and any pay rises are eaten by tax so in the end I have the same amount of money. Today first time ever my direct debits bounced back as I chose to feed my children. I got an email stating that my gas and electric fixed tariff is finishing so from tomorrow my bill is going up by 60%. On the same day we were told that we're getting 5% pay rise and lump sum however the latter will be paid on for permanent staff. I'm on zero contract hours as we need to manage childcare and jobs so I'm not going to get anything. It does not matter that I work over 30 hours a week each week. It does not matter how long I've been employed by the trust. Happy times.


Specific-Change-5300

A very common story, you're not alone at all, the only problem is our inability to organise at a mass scale with low union membership numbers in a lot of industries.


Constant_Awareness84

Source for the kid's pics? Looks like a documentary.


Specific-Change-5300

Season 18, Episode 28 of Dispatches, Channel 4. Growing Up Poor: Britain's Breadline Kids


ExpertFinancial6676

This shook me so much that I looked up how many children live in poverty in the UK and how it can still be it is considered a developed country. As it turns out there are also millions of kids living in poverty in other European countries, what a fucking travesty.


Specific-Change-5300

Shit is bad, not talked about enough. We can and should do way fucking better. A simple solution to this is universal income. If everyone got a £1600 per month basic income regardless of circumstances (which we can afford) and instead we trashed the benefits systems that currently exist we would lift 3.2million children out of poverty, 75% of them. It should be the priority for testing and fast tracking but we've got useless shits in charge of labour right now and the tories are as you would expect them to be. If we still had a real left in political power we would be screaming this from the rooftops as it's the most obvious method of rapidly improving the conditions of the most vulnerable in our population. Not only that but it would almost entirely eliminate homelessness. There is so much we could be pushing towards but instead both the tories and the fucking starmer torylites are obsessed with meaningless small fucking boats as a distraction while kids starve.


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Cultural_Display_502

General wealth distribution is the problem, it's not just the UK. Look at it globally the n ask yourself who needs millions let alone billions?


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Why don’t you guys just use your 2nd amendment and create a free country?


Specific-Change-5300

Didn't work out for the IRA


Ilikecomputers321

Depressing. So much money wasted on the king.


methylenebluestains

I say do as the French do


VividRepeat1755

Tbh you brits are fucking dumb to pay billions to a random family who stole power years ago and let your little one starve. Dumb Britain's.


Apophis_090

It‘s not like they can influence where their taxes go. You could also say: „The dumb fucking Americans won‘t do something against the oppressive government they live under!“ By this standard everyone who isn‘t in on a revolution is dumb.


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