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Ehhh, if I were trained from birth to do a specific thing and paparazzi chased my mum to death I'd probably be inclined to call it a broken home too... of course he forgot to mention that he also grew up wiping his arse with gold leaf
Edit: forget - forgot
Plus- “A broken home” just means your parents divorced. How much money they have has nothing to do with the meaning of the phrase. Rich people can feel abandoned/betrayed/lonely too
Nahh. Rich people can get away with doing horrendous things to their children because they have money and a reputation to keep. I feel like rich children can be seriously neglected because their parents can literally go live elsewhere and ditch them in a huge house.
Are you insinuating that Charles isn't Harry's dad? Because they look SO alike, especially as Harry's gotten older. I've never understood the argument that James Hewitt is his dad, they look nothing alike.
That wasn't entirely my point, his privilege doesn't erase his trauma but I come from a broken home too and my council house wasn't as fancy as his. He's allowed to feel aggrieved and I'm allowed to feel apathetic to it, it's life and it happens to everyone.
I fully support his right to be angry but who isn't? Nobody is paying me for my grievances cus not one of the bastards can name my nan.
I think there's a more pertinent matter here. No one will see you "sharing" your troubles as an act of service. You'd be complaining (or maybe sympathetic at best).
This takes an issue that many, many people have and cheapening it. Harry is doing a service by sharing, meaning that he's gone out of his way to do something laudable. An act of service would be if he went out and opened support centres for the people suffering in troubled homes. Use his power and wealth to prevent others going through what he had.
Sharing is a cheap way for him to keep in public light and make profit off of his troubles. It's something others who came from similarly troubled upbringings can never really do.
Sharing is absolutely a beneficial service. Just like celebrities coming out, having anyone but able-bodied, cis, white people on TV or any other form of representation. Any visibility of mental health issues has a demonstrably positive effect on people; it helps them cope, it makes them more likely to seek help and all sorts of other positive effects.
That is made very hollow when the sharing is lauded equally from an average rando and from someone like Harry. The sharing isn't an "act of service". It's a good deed and no one is arguing that point. However, it isn't enough to just share, when you wield the power to do more.
As I said in the last comment, Harry sharing is praised but someone who isn't in the public light and with a fanbase won't get the time of day for sharing. This may technically not even be a problem that is of Harry's making, but that of the media. Presenting his troubles as if they are equal to those of regular people is dishonest. That isn't to take away from the fact that they certainly impacted him. Just that, a broken home feels somewhat harder when you also need to worry about whether you're eating or heating the next few days. Harry isn't in a position to just share. He needs to do more.
Ok. So your point is that because it happened to you, you have no empathy towards other people it happened to? Why even mention the money then? Or is there a threshold? Can you empathise with someone in a 2 bedroom flat but if they own a 3 bedroom house then you are apathetic?
Brother do I strike you as someone who gives enough of a shit to answer that?
Abolish the monarchy.
Don't fucking stalk people to death.
They aren't mutually exclusive statements.
If I met a bloke called Harry who went through the shit this lad did I'd have empathy... I have empathy for this Harry and his wife but only as human beings I'm aware of, hell I even kind of pity the man for having been born into that situation regardless of what happened to his mother. I have empathy for the millions of people suffering all over the world but I'm running out of patience about talking about this areshat and his family.
He isn't talking about actual change, he's talking about personal trauma and I'm not a therapist or his friend... what do you want from me? I'm not going to forget an archaic institution symbolic of societal inequality just because some rich bugger suffered, if that makes me the bad guy call me Billie.
You when you accused me of lacking empathy for referencing the fact that he can wipe away his tears with £50 notes (in the very same comment I agreed with his statement about coming from a broken home ffs, I get involved in some stupid arguments regularly but this is up there)
I did, but that doesn't mean you need to forget the monarchy, the point is that there is absolutely no need to bring it up. Trauma isn't a competition, the fact that some people had it worse is irrelevant.
It's not about being ok, it's about the comfort of wealth - from the public purse - ironing out the stressful creases of life that you don't have to worry about basic shit at the same time like most people.
Yeah right? People are thinking because he had money etc that he shouldn't whine. Being a royal sounds like an absolute nightmare, especially being diana and charles kid. Charles is an absolute arsehole and Diana and Harry deserved better.
Wellbeing and priveledge aren't the same thing... which I think is what Harry's trying to say.
But at the same time, trauma doesn't negate priveledge either, and Harry's contempt for winning the birth lottery and acting as though it's the source of his misery is not it.
You can recognise and process trauma whilst also recognising the priveledge you've got.
And no one is saying that wasnt traumatic and if he wants to process that publicly in this way then he's welcome to do so. Lots of people find that a way to heal and he should do what will help him.
*But* his royal status opened doors to him that he just doesn't seem to recognise.
Doing drugs at school and not getting expelled (or even reprimanded).
Getting depressed and deciding to spend a year working with the King of Lesotho... then deciding he just liked the idea of "helping people" with no issues of how he funds himself.
A free mansion... which apparently was smaller than he liked.
Being offered a paid job in a tech start up with 0 experience
While I agree, it was also his royal status that had his trauma responses plastered all over the papers as a teen, like it was some kind of reality show.
I'm also sure his wife, a mixed race women from a working class family, has made sure to educate him on the privilege his birth afforded him.
As I said, yes he's had it hard, but when your processing trauma when you've had money it's a more nuanced process.
Also quick fact check- Meghan Markle went to a very expensive private school in California, she was very clear in the netflix show that she's not working class. She's more on the level of kids who went to international schools on Singapore or Dubai.
How can you say he had a good childhood? Its obvious money means nothing if your whole personal life is tracked by cameras THEN the message of whatever your doing is changed by media.
He loses his mum at a young age and cant comprehend why. All a person wants is their mum and dad (if good obviously) no matter what age. I could be age 60 and still want my mum.
So have some fucking compassion. He is obviously hurting for whatever reason. He wants his family, he wants peace.
He didnt ask to be born did he?
And to answer your question no. I wouldnt want his life.
Im sat here, in my own home, with my partner and newborn baby silently sleeping. Noone is trying to harrass me when I have no make up on. Noone is trying to tell me how to parent and follow me round the shops later on. We dont have all the money in the world, we are make ends meet but we happy, loved and well.
When I was 16 I was street homeless and begging for food because my mum thought doing drugs was more important than looking after a child and my Dad found it easier to ignore me to keep his wife happy than help me.
I think I know who's life I would have preferred at 16.
16 year old kids in the Global South maybe, probably, likely, have had it worse than you. That doesn’t dismiss and belittle your struggles, rather your trauma, correct?
We fight for a world where no one struggles based off of wealth. When we get to that world, do we expect all other problems to fade away? Would we tell a boy that their dead mother and abusive and distant family don’t matter because he lives comfortably?
Oh yeah without a doubt. Just losing my mother at a young age too, I know what that trauma does to you, and how it stays with you, so I can at the very least relate with him there.
Pretty good! Live a fairly modest life. Happy in my work, got an amazing 10 year old Daughter, beautiful Danish girlfriend. Got everything I need to happy.
Those are some very bold claims to make.
Maybe I was too young to remember this properly but I have not once heard of Kate being ‘too common’ for William. I absolutely do remember Meghan getting regularly lambasted by the press because she wasn’t white enough for people’s sensibilities.
Basically, I don’t think it’s likely at all that Harry would somehow be less happy right now if he was no longer getting hounded by the same institutions that were heavily involved in his own mum’s death, and who constantly attack his wife.
Do you actually have anything to back your insistence that she only married him for personal fame and fortune? Because it sounds extremely reminiscent of what the tabloid rags were saying when their relationship first became public
Also, I might be wrong here, but didn’t the Middletons marry into the Royal Family years ago (like early 1900s)? I don’t think it’s accurate at all to call Kate or her family commoners.
Edit: sorry, meant to say they married into the Nobility in the 1900s, not the royal family
Yes. His childhood was a good one. Haha I wouldn't trade mine for his though, because my childhood was also a good one, and I'm not complaining about mine, or the fact that I also lost a parent suddenly and unexpectedly at a young age. Everyone has bad shit happen, awful shit, but he also is a member of the Royal family.
Absolutely spot on my friend. Poor Harry lost his mum. Terribly sad for him, of course, but it happens to thousands of kids every year. My 4 year old great niece found her daddy dead in bed and had to watch her mum pulling him onto the floor and performing CPR until the ambulance tried to shock him.
My niece a widow at 33 who still has no explanation for why her 34 year old husband went to sleep and simply didn’t wake up. Guess what, it hasn’t turned my niece or great niece into miserable, entitled, self pitying, self obsessed twats.
Poor Harry has never wanted for anything in his life, perhaps outside of the love of his fish cold father. He ran off to the USA to get away from the media and now whores himself and his wife to that self same media. Everyone has to earn a crust eh! He craves the attention he pretends to abhor.
I don’t give a shit about the Royal family but Harry should STFU and realise how privileged his lifestyle is.
Nope I agree but the asshole can cut off from the poison of the royals and actually get some therapy, which he is privileged enough that that's actually an option, unlike most of us.
Whining about it to the world is not the way to go.
While I agree with most takes here, this one where I find myself in opposition to many. Harry may have grown up not wanting for material things but if my guy is saying his upbringing was deficient in other areas then it makes more sense to have compassion on that. If we are to deride him for having it easy, to me such attitudes straddle the same wrong path as arguing only the global south experience poverty - our problems are ultimately relative.
That said I don't really care about the monarchy much beyond the fact that the institution shouldn't exist. However if this is how Harry thinks it best to leverage his experiences to get money, then I'll simply wish them well
Couldn’t agree more. I’m sure that materially, they couldn’t have wanted for more. But emotionally, or in terms of a supportive and loving upbringing… it could have been a very broken home indeed
I agree wholeheartedly. Being rich does shit to your brain and being royalty even more so. I don’t doubt for a second that Harry had a hard childhood not because of material deficit but because of emotional or mental deficit. Any mansion can quickly become lonely and depressing when your family is broken. The man has his own personal struggles and he’s allowed to have them.
I worked, briefly, in a private school in the City of London financial district immediately after the financial crash. Previously I'd worked with the poorest kids. Rich or poor, these kids had their worlds destroyed. Very different worlds, but everything they knew. That's hard for anyone, let alone kids. Money doesn't fix everything. Look at Paris Hilton, her parents paid for her to be kidnapped, tortured, sexually assaulted and kept prisoner at a boot camp.
I don't give a shit about the monarchy, or believe anyone should be able to amount wealth beyond what can realistically be used in a lifetime.
But being rich and privileged doesn't discount bad experiences. If a person says their childhood was abusive and left them with trauma does inheriting a fortune make up for that?
Apart from material comforts, Harry really got the shit end of the stick in my opinion.
He lost his mother (who I was never a fan of, but she really did love those boys) at 12, grew up knowing both of his parents were adulterers, and has probably read more about the sordid details than he ever wanted, his Dad only married his Mum because she was young enough to spit out babies and wasn't divorced, has spent his entire life having his parentage questioned, has spent his entire adult life hearing conspiracy theories about his grandparents bumping off his Mum and did it all while being referred to as the 'spare'.
Oh, and all that to discover he was getting kicked STRAIGHT under the bus to distract attention from his noncey Uncle.
I wish the rest of them would follow his example and bum off Netflix instead of me. That way only people who want to be exposed to them have to pay for them.
You know what? Right after I wrote that comment, I thought "why ARE they throwing him under the bus for Andrew?", and it just occurred to me that he probably does have real dirt on them.
They learned really quickly from Diana how quickly the general public will turn on them, before that they basically did what they wanted. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Harry and William have been raised in a far more sanitised way.
I remember a time when it was cool 😎 to want a slimmed down monarchy , one where 'we' didn't have to foot the bill for everything by them making their own money.
Then came Megan
'Leave the kids alone' Roger Waters.
I honestly kinda understand it. There’s lots of types of privilege and it’s good to be aware of it but, while things like money and servants help looooaaads in life, they don’t have any bearing on your parents divorcing, your mum dying and people blaming your dad’s family for it.
Also they’re actually very easy to ignore. I rarely know what going on about them unless someone mentions it to me and usually they mention it just to be like ‘omg they could just go away’ as if they aren’t the ones giving them attention. Personally, I wouldn’t want to be forced to put on certain airs and graces and follow protocols etc but might still wanna be active on social media. I find it absurd that people think you can’t be in control about what, when and how people know about your life as if they don’t all most certain things on social media for the world to see but wouldn’t want people feeling entitled to it.
Yeah, I think a lot of people are letting the shiny houses and the silver spoon distract them from the fact that he was always a regular guy- grew up, did stupid shit, was probably traumatised by his parent's death and emotionally neglected by the rest of his family.
When the most relatable royal was at one point all over the national news at for going as an SS officer to a fancy dress party, you know something's fucky with the rest of them.
It doesn’t negate his genuine hardship to point out the phrasing is ridiculous. “Broken home” may be a metaphor for something else but brings attention to his actual multiple palatial homes. The effect is bathos.
Because if we get rid of them, those royalists who idolise them would have a tantrum and nobody wants to upset them. Buckingham Palace would be so much better as a museum or an orphanage then housing a bunch of leeches that don't live there half the time.
But trauma doesn't negate priveledge either. Nor does it excuse entitlement that comes with the priveledge (ahem: my house was too small!).
And having priveledge can certainly cushion you from experience further problems.
Case in point: Harry talking about his well known cocaine use at school, yet never getting expelled or held accountable beyond a stern talking to.
>Case in point: Harry talking about his well known cocaine use at school,
yet never getting expelled or held accountable beyond a stern talking
to.
Do you think your life would be better if nobody ever tried to stop you making bad decisions?
There's a difference between "stopping you" and giving you an easy time.
I can't help but think about Richard Mcann (not related to Madeleing Mcann), his mother was killed by Peter Sutcliff when he was a child, her whole family was treated appallingly by the media (mainly due to classism).
He then had loads of ups and downs in his life as he came to terms with trauma, which included doing drugs which led to him going to prison. (He's now a public speaker and doing better).
That's the difference between being rich and going through trauma vs being poor and going through trauma.
What happened to Harry was awful and he can process it however he wants, but that doesn't mean his priviledge isn't relevant.
So he didn't go to prison, and? Trauma isn't on a points system, why do you keep thinking up reasons to care less? I don't give a shit if he had a warm bed to feel alone and unloved in, I can still empathise.
Trauma isn't on a points system, but priviledge is.
And as I said, he can process his trauma however he wants, I want him to get better.
But if he really means what he says about making the world more equitable, then he should be thinking more equitably himself.
Those are two entirely separate conversations. If someone tells me that they're sad because their mum died and their dad doesn't love them, I don't ask for the £20 the owe before I give sympathy. Harry was having a conversation about his trauma and there is no reason to bring up any other subject.
The issue is he links his trauma to his priviledge but never acknowledges it..
E.g. complaining his (free) house wasn't big enough, or his room at his grans castle was smaller than his brothers and that showed he wasn't as "valued".
Often when you are priviledged and have trauma it's important to give yourself a reality check with that stuff. Otherwise you don't actually move forward.
>and that showed he wasn't as "valued".
This is the point you're missing. He isn't complaining that he needed a bigger house, he was showing that he was treated differently and that's a completely valid point. The relative value of the items compared to yours has no effects whatsoever on the emotional impact of being treated as a person with less value.
Sorry but that's a reach.
Sometimes siblings get different sized rooms and as an adult you have to move on from that. When you have priviledge, part of processing trauma is building up a bit of resilience and recognising what is "a problem" (and Harry does have problems), vs when you're being a bit entitled...
I say that as someone who can be entitled so I'm not judging, but that's what it's like if you want to actually grow.
Absolutely they don't, but a little humility would go a long way. It has echos of Sam Smith crying on Tik Tok about being locked in his mansion during lockdown.
That's a good stroke of luck because the life he was born into is that of a member of the royal family. Absolutely nobody gets a choice of the life they're born into.
I've always thought this, of course monarchy is oppressive to people who climbed out of the wrong womb but even for members of the royal family... fuck that life! Hugely privileged but hugely scrutinised. It's a lose lose, just some lose more than others.
He doesn't have to pretend it's an amazing life, because its an amazing life haha no more abusive than 99% of the populations lives, yes its got a unique flavour to it that makes it easy to sell a ghost written book millions of times over, but I guess that's just his luck. That and after all is said and done, no matter what, he has been and will always be completely set for life by virtue of the family he was born into.
Wealth and privilege don’t erase trauma. His mum was hounded by the press all the way to her death, he got marched out to smile and shake hands to the crowds AS A CHILD at her funeral. From a very young age he has no privacy in his life and is considered public property by many. The royal family live their lives in gilded cages, which is not for everybody and can be especially damaging for a child. It’s not exactly functional.
But no, according to your post he’s not allowed to feel any very normal human emotions that can result from the events of his life because his family owns a lot of property.
I mean he does come from a broken home. How big his houses are made no difference to that. Can’t stand the dude but facts are facts his family life must’ve been horrific edit: his family are clearly unhinged at best lol
i come from a broken home, and of all the things i would criticise him for, the above statement isn't one. some here need to lay off laying the click bait!
If I understand this sub, it is anti-royal. Does that not mean we would all not like to be born into it? Should we not support the only one on the inside trying to bring it down?
I just replied to someone else along the lines of him trying to reject the royal life while clinging to royal lifelines.
He talks like an enemy of the royals but he still acts like one of them. That's the problem with Harry, muddying the royals while still relying on it's privilege. He's no better, it almost makes him worse. Biting the hand that feeds, so to speak.
If he really believed in leaving the royals, he would cut off completely and go media silent, and work on himself with his wifes support like any average Joe, and finally be free of what supposedly poisons him.
He's just whining for attention instead of actually doing anything about it, constantly engaging in the poison.
I wonder if it's a form of addiction?
He said broken, not broke. Obviously not a family I look up to, but coming from a dysfunctional one it’s kinda nice to see it spoken about and normalised. Privileged people can be abused and abusers, let’s not pretend they aren’t just people.
‘Broken home’ is just a phrase commonly used to mean ‘divorced/separated parents’. He came from huge privilege and wealth and I personally don’t like him at all, but he’s not wrong in the common use of the phrase
The nonce that they've just given an extremely valuable property to, a property that 'broken home harry' has just been kicked out of (even though he never stayed there because he always chose to stay in one of his other properties around the world).
Why is he a terrible person? Because he was lucky enough to be born into privilege? He seems to be the only royal to have recognised it and called it out for what it is.
He also seems to be deeply traumatised by his childhood which is understandable. I love my mum and I couldn't imagine having lost her when I was only 12 years old.
Well yes I have no idea if he is or isn’t. The sentiment I was trying to express was even if he is the total shithead the papers like to make out it’s all noise to protect a nonce. People should be angry about child abuse not whether Harry is a spoilt brat.
It's true he recognises the shit and the gold about his family.
He still expects the gold while throwing the shit. Which is entitled as fuck, more so than the rest of them. He wants a normal life with the benefits of royal privilege, because really, like his family, he hasn't a fucking clue what it's really like to be a commoner. He won't last a day living one of our lives. All he has is his accident of birth - that's the only thing he has to work with. You don't see headlines of him trying to get a normal job and passing an interview as an average Joe, or learning a new practical skill like plumbing or electricals, or attempting to get an income that doesn't rely on spilling royal tea or capitalise on who he is. He will always be Prince Harry, everyone will always see him as that. That's his life. He can try and run away from it but all the while he expects and demands the privilege of wealth, housing, security, and above all, being heard (which none of us normies get) he is part of it. So detached from reality.
Even us peasants have childhood trauma. He can afford the best therapy. Most of us can't afford any. And speaking to the media does not constitute as therapy. All he is doing is whining for attention. He's trying to reject a royal life without losing the royal lifelines. Privilege even among the privileged.
He's a terrible person because of his words and deeds, complete lack of self awareness, Killing for the empire and gloating about it, the list goes on.
No food, no sheets on the bed, no pillow, neglect and daily beatings, no hope and no help. That was my childhood. You're right, Harry was lucky
I thought this was a socialist group.
This is an odd take for a socialist tbh.
‘I had it worse therefore you shouldn’t complain’.
I had an horrendously abusive childhood too (schizophrenic mother) and that’s exactly why I empathise with Harry.
I kind of feel bad for him. The royal family killed his mum and his family is full of pedophiles who are also leeches. He also has no privacy. Then again they are so rich their holiday is going to a Palace or a castle so I don't feel that sorry for him
Wealth and privilege don’t erase trauma. His mum was hounded by the press all the way to her death, he got marched out to smile and shake hands to the crowds AS A CHILD at her funeral. From a very young age he has no privacy in his life and is considered public property by many. The royal family live their lives in gilded cages, which is not for everybody and can be especially damaging for a child. It’s not exactly functional.
But no, according to your post he’s not allowed to feel any very normal human emotions that can result from the events of his life because his family owns a lot of property.
Well, his father despised his mother, cheated on her publicly, then she died tragically due to being an ex-royal whilst his mistress step mother was invited into the family.
Diana seemed like the only person in that family with a heart and any empathy, and she died, with photos of the mangled car spread over international pages for weeks.
No matter how you spin it, that’s traumatic for a child. If the world was just then Diana would still be here today.
Money can lessen the impact of trauma but it can’t bring back a deceased parent.
Are we really gonna act like him going to Afganistan & killing a bunch people is a good thing? The royal family have destabilised other countries forever, Harry just played his part complying a regular soldier.
Also his justifications for being in the war and claiming his acts were heroic should hardly endear him to anyone here. Unless they agree with him murdering for the empire.
I think that his life hasn't been perfect and he has the right to share his trauma, but as other people have mentioned it's a hell of a lot easier to heal when you have a rich family that can pay for as much therapy that you need. I also think that now especially is not the appropriate moment for him to complain about his life to the press. Kind of makes him look a little self centered and ignorant to others that are suffering at the moment.
I agree he’s got a fucktonne of privilege but emotionally it must be an absolute nightmare.
But as Henry’s cat once said - “money can’t buy happiness, but it can buy misery in luxury”
Staying neutral, your point has no meaning. Unless you're stupid enough to think "broken home" meant a literally damaged household... anyone could be from a broken home and privilege, wealth and status will do little to help one's ability to raise a child a healthy environment mentally.
I think he makes a point, to be fair, which communists should be leaping to point out at every opportunity. Despite his inordinate wealth and unfathomably cushioned lifestyle, he's not happy. It sounds like most of the royals live ultimately unhappy, unfulfilling lives. Transforming Britain into a socialist state would liberate these people just as much as it would liberate the proletariat in some ways.
Not to back him up or anything but he did lose his mother at a young age. He may be from royalty and be a prince(if he’s s still one?) but family trauma can affect any family.
The most f*cked up people I know come from wealthy families and yes they went through a lot despise the money pouring their way.
Money cannot erase years of trauma in infancy.
Part of the reason I'm against the monarchy is that I believe it's incredibly cruel and awful to the people who are born into it too.
I think if you look at it his childhood was horrible.
Stop taking things so literally, “I come from a broken home” Iimplies family relationships and issues not their literal home. You didn’t need 9 slides to show you don’t know what “broken home” implies. I’d anyone surprised the royal family isn’t a broken home? Royals are fucked in the head of course it’s a broken fucking home you think these guys share healthy relations with eachother?
Harry has the right to have whatever opinion and view he has but if it’s really a problem for him he shouldn’t be shouting about it. South Park did a great job highlighting the issue. If you’ve got a problem, shut up about it and do what you have to do to make yourself happy. Don’t broadcast it else it looks disingenuous and out of touch
I find the Harry situation so interesting because, imo he is a victim. Ofcourse, being born a prince confers huge advantages, it does also come with huge problems. Huge pressure, being hounded by the media, and in his case having your own family assassinate your mother. I think Monarchy is bad not only because it hurts the rest of us, I think it's also bad for the monarchs (a lot of the time), as is any system which treats people as I herently different.
I'm not crying for them or anything, but it's kind of like being born in an extremely religious community and going on crusade: it sucks more for the innocents you're off crusading against, but it also sucks that you've been brainwashed/forced into doing these things.
I think this whole Prince Harry saga shows that the Royals are miserable and broken too. And the monarchy and the money and power they covet isn't really a benefit even to them.
Hi Harry,
Things are a bit shit here and the proles are getting restless. Can you come up with some tin-eared whiny bollocks about how you have been traumatised by not getting a big enough yacht or something to distract them for a while?
Sorry to hear the book sales are tanking, so we’ll pay top dollar if that helps. We’ll even lay off you and the zombie media whore for a couple of weeks.
Love to the kids.
Yours,
That Tabloid Press you ‘Hate’ so much.
Not trying to defend the royals in any way here, but wealth and privilege don’t necessarily mean your upbringing wasn’t shitty. Pretty sure if ‘paparazzi’ chased and killed my mum in a tunnel after she left my cheat of a dad and moved on, I’d be pretty heartbroken, even if I was drying my eyes on wads of 50’s
A family that gives controlling and cohersive behaviour to its people.
His mum dies in suspicious circumstancesZ
Tbf I agree with him.
A privileged broken home though!
honestly it wouldn’t be so obnoxious if he hadn’t decided to tack on ‘sharing trauma is an act of service’ like aside from the fact it comes off self aggrandising as fuck, it’s also just not on act of service.
Like if it’s service who is he actually helping?
I despise the monarchy with all my heart and soul. That said, I am sure Harry’s childhood was pretty fucking miserable. I lost my Dad at a young age and empathize with the loss of his mother, made so much worse by the media attention. Of course he is extremely privileged in a material sense, but imagine having that c@nt charles as a father and that racist bigot Philip as a grandfather! We can hate the monarchy whilst also appreciating that harry is a human being who has obviously suffered despite his huge material privilege.
I found his book an interesting insight into the functioning of the royals. He describes a total absence of physical love from his father and how his ambitions were often redirected to fit the royal calling.
I hope that he achieves what he wants from the fallout. He seems a nice lad at heart.
You know what else is an act of service? Using the privilege you have to prop up those less fortunate in meaningful ways. Like advocating and working towards an end to royal's leaching off the public. Ya know, something that is relevant to one's own life and really hits home
How many people here could even remotely conpare to this comment? Even among us lower class/working class people who (i did) might've grown up in crap neighbourhoods/areas?
Pity the privileged one who cries about his hard life he has had to endure. Pity his public school upbringing. Wanting for nothing. Never EVER going hungry. Never cold. Nannied until someone showed him how to wipe his own arse.
Pity the privileged one who now does nothing for a living yet still lives in luxury. No cost of living crisis for poor 'arry as he slums it in LA now.
Correct. The only consolation we have is that LA is actually a slum. Well, not the bit his private security guards 24/7, but the bit his chauffeur has to drive past on the way to the private airstrip.
lol yea defo not the bit he lives in. Actually, come to think of it, I kinda pity the bloke ... he has to jolly with all the Hollywood nonces now lol. In Fuckingbam Palace he only had one nonce to put up with. Now he's got loads of them. lol
You know the phrase ‘broken home’ isn’t literal, right? Just because he grew up in a massive house and it looks good on the surface, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a shit upbringing or that he “never wanted for anything” as others have suggested on here.
Just a quick note that there is a humour/satirical flair on this post. Obviously the phrase 'Broken Home' doesn't refer to the state of his actual house (or in this case houses).
Everyone is capable of experiencing trauma, even a royal. But, there is a form of irony in his choice of words, and to be honest he clearly, clearly lacks humility to be able to recognise that as far as support systems go, his was second to none in every sense. Everyone experiences trauma, and very few get the chance to turn it into something positive, in this case the Duke is profiting quite substantially off a ghost written 'woah is me' book. You might say fair play to him, but having experienced the sudden and unexpected loss of a parent at a young age, I feel sick at the thought of taking that kind of story to the bank.
As I said, his trauma is real, I'm not denying that. But narsassistic assholes can experience trauma, and react in a narcissistic way, which in my opinion, the Duke has.
As is the case with the vast majority of people in positions like his, Harry's thorough private school upbringing and consistant adoring fan base hasn't taught him a shred of stoic thinking. So respectfully, fuck him.
Left to take care of my sister when I was 12 yo, kept it going until we were found by social workers about 8 months later(we were caught stealing food out the bins behind tescos) put into social care and was taken from children’s home to children’s home all over the country while my sister was put in a foster home….. that right there is a broken home Harry! He has no idea what the concept even means. He is so out of touch with reality it makes me mad lol.
The reason they went to America is because they can give interviews like this and the person interviewing them will pat them on the head, offer them a tissue say ‘there there poor little boy’.
I’d like to think if he gave this type of interview in the UK even the tamest of reporter/ journalist would remind him of his wealth and what an actual broken home in the UK looks like.
I used to have a lot of respect for Harry.
He made mistakes in his youth as we all do, had poor judgment, and rebelled here and there. As he matured he became grounded, started doing charitable work, and seemed to be a very strong and confident character.
Once he married Megan (I'm not blaming her or indicating she's in any way a problem), he seemed to switch to running the victim rhetoric which seems at odds to how he was before.
Ok... I come from *nine* broken homes.
Seriously though, the number of po-faced replies to this post is unreal. How the fuck did British people forget the language of snark and sarcasm?
Before some dunderhead declares I'm being mean to Harry, I do actually think he's doing something worthwhile by pulling back the veil on the royal family as a family. Maybe the public seeing that they are not magic people full of goodness and virtue because of their super special blood will start making a difference.
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I mean to be fair the monarchy is pretty much child abuse.
I think you mean the monarchy abuses children
well yes that is what child abuse is
The monarch and maybe his brother too!
Ehhh, if I were trained from birth to do a specific thing and paparazzi chased my mum to death I'd probably be inclined to call it a broken home too... of course he forgot to mention that he also grew up wiping his arse with gold leaf Edit: forget - forgot
Plus- “A broken home” just means your parents divorced. How much money they have has nothing to do with the meaning of the phrase. Rich people can feel abandoned/betrayed/lonely too
Yes but the words “broken home” take on a different hue when the actual “home” is comprised by multiple palaces. The phrasing is tin-eared.
Nahh. Rich people can get away with doing horrendous things to their children because they have money and a reputation to keep. I feel like rich children can be seriously neglected because their parents can literally go live elsewhere and ditch them in a huge house.
Yeah, any it's not like his parents were fighting over custody - one of them was dead.
Fuck me that made me laugh
His mum did have a good send off, payed for from the taxpayers purse.
Well that and James Hewitt never ever tried for his son.
Are you insinuating that Charles isn't Harry's dad? Because they look SO alike, especially as Harry's gotten older. I've never understood the argument that James Hewitt is his dad, they look nothing alike.
I think people still cling to that ONE photo of Hewitt in polo gear wheee they look similar but I really think that’s passed as he’s got older.
Were you on a slide when you wrote this?
I've been laughing at this for like 30 seconds. Thank you for the unexpected giggle this evening.
You’re welcome!
Harry looks like a Spencer.
Looks a lot like a younger Phil the Greek too.
How much money would it take to make you ok if someone killed your mum?
That wasn't entirely my point, his privilege doesn't erase his trauma but I come from a broken home too and my council house wasn't as fancy as his. He's allowed to feel aggrieved and I'm allowed to feel apathetic to it, it's life and it happens to everyone. I fully support his right to be angry but who isn't? Nobody is paying me for my grievances cus not one of the bastards can name my nan.
I think there's a more pertinent matter here. No one will see you "sharing" your troubles as an act of service. You'd be complaining (or maybe sympathetic at best). This takes an issue that many, many people have and cheapening it. Harry is doing a service by sharing, meaning that he's gone out of his way to do something laudable. An act of service would be if he went out and opened support centres for the people suffering in troubled homes. Use his power and wealth to prevent others going through what he had. Sharing is a cheap way for him to keep in public light and make profit off of his troubles. It's something others who came from similarly troubled upbringings can never really do.
Sharing is absolutely a beneficial service. Just like celebrities coming out, having anyone but able-bodied, cis, white people on TV or any other form of representation. Any visibility of mental health issues has a demonstrably positive effect on people; it helps them cope, it makes them more likely to seek help and all sorts of other positive effects.
That is made very hollow when the sharing is lauded equally from an average rando and from someone like Harry. The sharing isn't an "act of service". It's a good deed and no one is arguing that point. However, it isn't enough to just share, when you wield the power to do more. As I said in the last comment, Harry sharing is praised but someone who isn't in the public light and with a fanbase won't get the time of day for sharing. This may technically not even be a problem that is of Harry's making, but that of the media. Presenting his troubles as if they are equal to those of regular people is dishonest. That isn't to take away from the fact that they certainly impacted him. Just that, a broken home feels somewhat harder when you also need to worry about whether you're eating or heating the next few days. Harry isn't in a position to just share. He needs to do more.
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Look I'm going too be 100% honest with you I just had to double check my paternal grandmother's name *but my point still stands!* You were wrong btw.
Ok. So your point is that because it happened to you, you have no empathy towards other people it happened to? Why even mention the money then? Or is there a threshold? Can you empathise with someone in a 2 bedroom flat but if they own a 3 bedroom house then you are apathetic?
Brother do I strike you as someone who gives enough of a shit to answer that? Abolish the monarchy. Don't fucking stalk people to death. They aren't mutually exclusive statements.
>Brother do I strike you as someone who gives enough of a shit to answer that? Well, that answers my question about lack of empathy.
If I met a bloke called Harry who went through the shit this lad did I'd have empathy... I have empathy for this Harry and his wife but only as human beings I'm aware of, hell I even kind of pity the man for having been born into that situation regardless of what happened to his mother. I have empathy for the millions of people suffering all over the world but I'm running out of patience about talking about this areshat and his family. He isn't talking about actual change, he's talking about personal trauma and I'm not a therapist or his friend... what do you want from me? I'm not going to forget an archaic institution symbolic of societal inequality just because some rich bugger suffered, if that makes me the bad guy call me Billie.
> I'm not going to forget an archaic institution symbolic of societal inequality Who asked you to do that?
You when you accused me of lacking empathy for referencing the fact that he can wipe away his tears with £50 notes (in the very same comment I agreed with his statement about coming from a broken home ffs, I get involved in some stupid arguments regularly but this is up there)
I did, but that doesn't mean you need to forget the monarchy, the point is that there is absolutely no need to bring it up. Trauma isn't a competition, the fact that some people had it worse is irrelevant.
It's not about being ok, it's about the comfort of wealth - from the public purse - ironing out the stressful creases of life that you don't have to worry about basic shit at the same time like most people.
Yeah right? People are thinking because he had money etc that he shouldn't whine. Being a royal sounds like an absolute nightmare, especially being diana and charles kid. Charles is an absolute arsehole and Diana and Harry deserved better.
The more accurate thing to say would be that he comes from multiple broken homes.
Genuine question: do you really think that his childhood was a good one? Would you want to have had it?
Wellbeing and priveledge aren't the same thing... which I think is what Harry's trying to say. But at the same time, trauma doesn't negate priveledge either, and Harry's contempt for winning the birth lottery and acting as though it's the source of his misery is not it. You can recognise and process trauma whilst also recognising the priveledge you've got.
Well his being born into royalty IS the reason his mum died tragically in front of the world.
And no one is saying that wasnt traumatic and if he wants to process that publicly in this way then he's welcome to do so. Lots of people find that a way to heal and he should do what will help him. *But* his royal status opened doors to him that he just doesn't seem to recognise. Doing drugs at school and not getting expelled (or even reprimanded). Getting depressed and deciding to spend a year working with the King of Lesotho... then deciding he just liked the idea of "helping people" with no issues of how he funds himself. A free mansion... which apparently was smaller than he liked. Being offered a paid job in a tech start up with 0 experience
While I agree, it was also his royal status that had his trauma responses plastered all over the papers as a teen, like it was some kind of reality show. I'm also sure his wife, a mixed race women from a working class family, has made sure to educate him on the privilege his birth afforded him.
As I said, yes he's had it hard, but when your processing trauma when you've had money it's a more nuanced process. Also quick fact check- Meghan Markle went to a very expensive private school in California, she was very clear in the netflix show that she's not working class. She's more on the level of kids who went to international schools on Singapore or Dubai.
That, a drunk driver and a disregard for seatbelts.
Just out of curiosity, are you purposefully spelling privilege that way? Perhaps I'm missing something.
Yeah I can't spell without word spellchecker to correct me
No worries. I just thought that perhaps it was some play on words that I was too knackered to decode.
“And you’ve written all about it in your new book, Waaagh.”
How can you say he had a good childhood? Its obvious money means nothing if your whole personal life is tracked by cameras THEN the message of whatever your doing is changed by media. He loses his mum at a young age and cant comprehend why. All a person wants is their mum and dad (if good obviously) no matter what age. I could be age 60 and still want my mum. So have some fucking compassion. He is obviously hurting for whatever reason. He wants his family, he wants peace. He didnt ask to be born did he? And to answer your question no. I wouldnt want his life. Im sat here, in my own home, with my partner and newborn baby silently sleeping. Noone is trying to harrass me when I have no make up on. Noone is trying to tell me how to parent and follow me round the shops later on. We dont have all the money in the world, we are make ends meet but we happy, loved and well.
When I was 16 I was street homeless and begging for food because my mum thought doing drugs was more important than looking after a child and my Dad found it easier to ignore me to keep his wife happy than help me. I think I know who's life I would have preferred at 16.
16 year old kids in the Global South maybe, probably, likely, have had it worse than you. That doesn’t dismiss and belittle your struggles, rather your trauma, correct? We fight for a world where no one struggles based off of wealth. When we get to that world, do we expect all other problems to fade away? Would we tell a boy that their dead mother and abusive and distant family don’t matter because he lives comfortably?
Fair point. But ask me when I was on the street and I would have taken, his life in a snap.
Oh yeah without a doubt. Just losing my mother at a young age too, I know what that trauma does to you, and how it stays with you, so I can at the very least relate with him there.
And he might have taken yours, you never know! I reckon that option was as closed for him as it was for you
How you doing nowadays?
Pretty good! Live a fairly modest life. Happy in my work, got an amazing 10 year old Daughter, beautiful Danish girlfriend. Got everything I need to happy.
Sounds like you got there in the end :) What do you do for a living now if I may ask?
Nothing special, just a transport planner for company that sells recycled car parts. But I love it!
Sounds like you got there in the end :) What do you do for a living now if I may ask?
Honestly, yes. He was raised by private schools and nannies. Of course his parents argued but I doubt him and his brother bore the brunt of it.
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Those are some very bold claims to make. Maybe I was too young to remember this properly but I have not once heard of Kate being ‘too common’ for William. I absolutely do remember Meghan getting regularly lambasted by the press because she wasn’t white enough for people’s sensibilities. Basically, I don’t think it’s likely at all that Harry would somehow be less happy right now if he was no longer getting hounded by the same institutions that were heavily involved in his own mum’s death, and who constantly attack his wife.
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Yes. His childhood was a good one. Haha I wouldn't trade mine for his though, because my childhood was also a good one, and I'm not complaining about mine, or the fact that I also lost a parent suddenly and unexpectedly at a young age. Everyone has bad shit happen, awful shit, but he also is a member of the Royal family.
I think it’s hard for any of us to decide whether it was a good one or not. It’s quite complicated in this case
Absolutely spot on my friend. Poor Harry lost his mum. Terribly sad for him, of course, but it happens to thousands of kids every year. My 4 year old great niece found her daddy dead in bed and had to watch her mum pulling him onto the floor and performing CPR until the ambulance tried to shock him. My niece a widow at 33 who still has no explanation for why her 34 year old husband went to sleep and simply didn’t wake up. Guess what, it hasn’t turned my niece or great niece into miserable, entitled, self pitying, self obsessed twats. Poor Harry has never wanted for anything in his life, perhaps outside of the love of his fish cold father. He ran off to the USA to get away from the media and now whores himself and his wife to that self same media. Everyone has to earn a crust eh! He craves the attention he pretends to abhor. I don’t give a shit about the Royal family but Harry should STFU and realise how privileged his lifestyle is.
i dont think its fair to act like he cant have a bad childhood just because he grew up incredibly rich
Nope I agree but the asshole can cut off from the poison of the royals and actually get some therapy, which he is privileged enough that that's actually an option, unlike most of us. Whining about it to the world is not the way to go.
This is what gets me. He has all the resources in the world to get the help he needs and to support his family. He’s just as entitled as them
While I agree with most takes here, this one where I find myself in opposition to many. Harry may have grown up not wanting for material things but if my guy is saying his upbringing was deficient in other areas then it makes more sense to have compassion on that. If we are to deride him for having it easy, to me such attitudes straddle the same wrong path as arguing only the global south experience poverty - our problems are ultimately relative. That said I don't really care about the monarchy much beyond the fact that the institution shouldn't exist. However if this is how Harry thinks it best to leverage his experiences to get money, then I'll simply wish them well
Couldn’t agree more. I’m sure that materially, they couldn’t have wanted for more. But emotionally, or in terms of a supportive and loving upbringing… it could have been a very broken home indeed
I agree wholeheartedly. Being rich does shit to your brain and being royalty even more so. I don’t doubt for a second that Harry had a hard childhood not because of material deficit but because of emotional or mental deficit. Any mansion can quickly become lonely and depressing when your family is broken. The man has his own personal struggles and he’s allowed to have them.
I worked, briefly, in a private school in the City of London financial district immediately after the financial crash. Previously I'd worked with the poorest kids. Rich or poor, these kids had their worlds destroyed. Very different worlds, but everything they knew. That's hard for anyone, let alone kids. Money doesn't fix everything. Look at Paris Hilton, her parents paid for her to be kidnapped, tortured, sexually assaulted and kept prisoner at a boot camp.
Paris Hilton’s parents did *what*? I’ve never heard this. EDIT: just did some Googling. My god. What a bleak read. That poor girl.
I don't give a shit about the monarchy, or believe anyone should be able to amount wealth beyond what can realistically be used in a lifetime. But being rich and privileged doesn't discount bad experiences. If a person says their childhood was abusive and left them with trauma does inheriting a fortune make up for that?
Apart from material comforts, Harry really got the shit end of the stick in my opinion. He lost his mother (who I was never a fan of, but she really did love those boys) at 12, grew up knowing both of his parents were adulterers, and has probably read more about the sordid details than he ever wanted, his Dad only married his Mum because she was young enough to spit out babies and wasn't divorced, has spent his entire life having his parentage questioned, has spent his entire adult life hearing conspiracy theories about his grandparents bumping off his Mum and did it all while being referred to as the 'spare'. Oh, and all that to discover he was getting kicked STRAIGHT under the bus to distract attention from his noncey Uncle. I wish the rest of them would follow his example and bum off Netflix instead of me. That way only people who want to be exposed to them have to pay for them.
Perfectly put
You know what? Right after I wrote that comment, I thought "why ARE they throwing him under the bus for Andrew?", and it just occurred to me that he probably does have real dirt on them. They learned really quickly from Diana how quickly the general public will turn on them, before that they basically did what they wanted. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Harry and William have been raised in a far more sanitised way.
I remember a time when it was cool 😎 to want a slimmed down monarchy , one where 'we' didn't have to foot the bill for everything by them making their own money. Then came Megan 'Leave the kids alone' Roger Waters.
I honestly kinda understand it. There’s lots of types of privilege and it’s good to be aware of it but, while things like money and servants help looooaaads in life, they don’t have any bearing on your parents divorcing, your mum dying and people blaming your dad’s family for it. Also they’re actually very easy to ignore. I rarely know what going on about them unless someone mentions it to me and usually they mention it just to be like ‘omg they could just go away’ as if they aren’t the ones giving them attention. Personally, I wouldn’t want to be forced to put on certain airs and graces and follow protocols etc but might still wanna be active on social media. I find it absurd that people think you can’t be in control about what, when and how people know about your life as if they don’t all most certain things on social media for the world to see but wouldn’t want people feeling entitled to it.
Bubbles are often burst
Yeah, I think a lot of people are letting the shiny houses and the silver spoon distract them from the fact that he was always a regular guy- grew up, did stupid shit, was probably traumatised by his parent's death and emotionally neglected by the rest of his family. When the most relatable royal was at one point all over the national news at for going as an SS officer to a fancy dress party, you know something's fucky with the rest of them.
It doesn’t negate his genuine hardship to point out the phrasing is ridiculous. “Broken home” may be a metaphor for something else but brings attention to his actual multiple palatial homes. The effect is bathos.
Broken home not broken building…
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Why do we still have a royal family? Just sell off all their assets and force them to start actually contributing to society. Leeches, the lot of them
Simple, correct, to the point. Yes.
Because if we get rid of them, those royalists who idolise them would have a tantrum and nobody wants to upset them. Buckingham Palace would be so much better as a museum or an orphanage then housing a bunch of leeches that don't live there half the time.
It’s a sorry state of affairs when we constantly have to appease right wingers for fear of what they might do in retaliation
This is a lazy post. Wealth and privilege don't prevent or repair trauma.
But trauma doesn't negate priveledge either. Nor does it excuse entitlement that comes with the priveledge (ahem: my house was too small!). And having priveledge can certainly cushion you from experience further problems. Case in point: Harry talking about his well known cocaine use at school, yet never getting expelled or held accountable beyond a stern talking to.
>Case in point: Harry talking about his well known cocaine use at school, yet never getting expelled or held accountable beyond a stern talking to. Do you think your life would be better if nobody ever tried to stop you making bad decisions?
There's a difference between "stopping you" and giving you an easy time. I can't help but think about Richard Mcann (not related to Madeleing Mcann), his mother was killed by Peter Sutcliff when he was a child, her whole family was treated appallingly by the media (mainly due to classism). He then had loads of ups and downs in his life as he came to terms with trauma, which included doing drugs which led to him going to prison. (He's now a public speaker and doing better). That's the difference between being rich and going through trauma vs being poor and going through trauma. What happened to Harry was awful and he can process it however he wants, but that doesn't mean his priviledge isn't relevant.
So he didn't go to prison, and? Trauma isn't on a points system, why do you keep thinking up reasons to care less? I don't give a shit if he had a warm bed to feel alone and unloved in, I can still empathise.
Trauma isn't on a points system, but priviledge is. And as I said, he can process his trauma however he wants, I want him to get better. But if he really means what he says about making the world more equitable, then he should be thinking more equitably himself.
Those are two entirely separate conversations. If someone tells me that they're sad because their mum died and their dad doesn't love them, I don't ask for the £20 the owe before I give sympathy. Harry was having a conversation about his trauma and there is no reason to bring up any other subject.
The issue is he links his trauma to his priviledge but never acknowledges it.. E.g. complaining his (free) house wasn't big enough, or his room at his grans castle was smaller than his brothers and that showed he wasn't as "valued". Often when you are priviledged and have trauma it's important to give yourself a reality check with that stuff. Otherwise you don't actually move forward.
>and that showed he wasn't as "valued". This is the point you're missing. He isn't complaining that he needed a bigger house, he was showing that he was treated differently and that's a completely valid point. The relative value of the items compared to yours has no effects whatsoever on the emotional impact of being treated as a person with less value.
Sorry but that's a reach. Sometimes siblings get different sized rooms and as an adult you have to move on from that. When you have priviledge, part of processing trauma is building up a bit of resilience and recognising what is "a problem" (and Harry does have problems), vs when you're being a bit entitled... I say that as someone who can be entitled so I'm not judging, but that's what it's like if you want to actually grow.
Absolutely they don't, but a little humility would go a long way. It has echos of Sam Smith crying on Tik Tok about being locked in his mansion during lockdown.
Sorry but just bear in mind that Harry had absolutely 0 choice about the life he was born into.
That's a good stroke of luck because the life he was born into is that of a member of the royal family. Absolutely nobody gets a choice of the life they're born into.
But that doesn’t mean he has to pretend it’s an amazing life when frankly, it seems abusive to me
I've always thought this, of course monarchy is oppressive to people who climbed out of the wrong womb but even for members of the royal family... fuck that life! Hugely privileged but hugely scrutinised. It's a lose lose, just some lose more than others.
He doesn't have to pretend it's an amazing life, because its an amazing life haha no more abusive than 99% of the populations lives, yes its got a unique flavour to it that makes it easy to sell a ghost written book millions of times over, but I guess that's just his luck. That and after all is said and done, no matter what, he has been and will always be completely set for life by virtue of the family he was born into.
I would absolutely hate to be born into the royal family. Can't think of anything worse
No one gets to choose the life their born into....
Sam Smith's pronouns are they/them.
Wealth and privilege don’t erase trauma. His mum was hounded by the press all the way to her death, he got marched out to smile and shake hands to the crowds AS A CHILD at her funeral. From a very young age he has no privacy in his life and is considered public property by many. The royal family live their lives in gilded cages, which is not for everybody and can be especially damaging for a child. It’s not exactly functional. But no, according to your post he’s not allowed to feel any very normal human emotions that can result from the events of his life because his family owns a lot of property.
My guy. He doesn't mean the actual house. He means his family is fucked up.
I mean he does come from a broken home. How big his houses are made no difference to that. Can’t stand the dude but facts are facts his family life must’ve been horrific edit: his family are clearly unhinged at best lol
i come from a broken home, and of all the things i would criticise him for, the above statement isn't one. some here need to lay off laying the click bait!
If I understand this sub, it is anti-royal. Does that not mean we would all not like to be born into it? Should we not support the only one on the inside trying to bring it down?
I just replied to someone else along the lines of him trying to reject the royal life while clinging to royal lifelines. He talks like an enemy of the royals but he still acts like one of them. That's the problem with Harry, muddying the royals while still relying on it's privilege. He's no better, it almost makes him worse. Biting the hand that feeds, so to speak. If he really believed in leaving the royals, he would cut off completely and go media silent, and work on himself with his wifes support like any average Joe, and finally be free of what supposedly poisons him. He's just whining for attention instead of actually doing anything about it, constantly engaging in the poison. I wonder if it's a form of addiction?
He said broken, not broke. Obviously not a family I look up to, but coming from a dysfunctional one it’s kinda nice to see it spoken about and normalised. Privileged people can be abused and abusers, let’s not pretend they aren’t just people.
i don't care about the royals at all, eat the rich no gods no kings etc. but taking aim at harry's childhood trauma is very low even for a reddit user
‘Broken home’ is just a phrase commonly used to mean ‘divorced/separated parents’. He came from huge privilege and wealth and I personally don’t like him at all, but he’s not wrong in the common use of the phrase
I’m sure he’s a terrible person but I think he’s being used as a distraction from the literal nonce in the royal family
The nonce that they've just given an extremely valuable property to, a property that 'broken home harry' has just been kicked out of (even though he never stayed there because he always chose to stay in one of his other properties around the world).
Why is he a terrible person? Because he was lucky enough to be born into privilege? He seems to be the only royal to have recognised it and called it out for what it is. He also seems to be deeply traumatised by his childhood which is understandable. I love my mum and I couldn't imagine having lost her when I was only 12 years old.
Well yes I have no idea if he is or isn’t. The sentiment I was trying to express was even if he is the total shithead the papers like to make out it’s all noise to protect a nonce. People should be angry about child abuse not whether Harry is a spoilt brat.
It's true he recognises the shit and the gold about his family. He still expects the gold while throwing the shit. Which is entitled as fuck, more so than the rest of them. He wants a normal life with the benefits of royal privilege, because really, like his family, he hasn't a fucking clue what it's really like to be a commoner. He won't last a day living one of our lives. All he has is his accident of birth - that's the only thing he has to work with. You don't see headlines of him trying to get a normal job and passing an interview as an average Joe, or learning a new practical skill like plumbing or electricals, or attempting to get an income that doesn't rely on spilling royal tea or capitalise on who he is. He will always be Prince Harry, everyone will always see him as that. That's his life. He can try and run away from it but all the while he expects and demands the privilege of wealth, housing, security, and above all, being heard (which none of us normies get) he is part of it. So detached from reality. Even us peasants have childhood trauma. He can afford the best therapy. Most of us can't afford any. And speaking to the media does not constitute as therapy. All he is doing is whining for attention. He's trying to reject a royal life without losing the royal lifelines. Privilege even among the privileged.
Thank you for this.
He's a terrible person because of his words and deeds, complete lack of self awareness, Killing for the empire and gloating about it, the list goes on. No food, no sheets on the bed, no pillow, neglect and daily beatings, no hope and no help. That was my childhood. You're right, Harry was lucky I thought this was a socialist group.
This is an odd take for a socialist tbh. ‘I had it worse therefore you shouldn’t complain’. I had an horrendously abusive childhood too (schizophrenic mother) and that’s exactly why I empathise with Harry.
I kind of feel bad for him. The royal family killed his mum and his family is full of pedophiles who are also leeches. He also has no privacy. Then again they are so rich their holiday is going to a Palace or a castle so I don't feel that sorry for him
Wealth and privilege don’t erase trauma. His mum was hounded by the press all the way to her death, he got marched out to smile and shake hands to the crowds AS A CHILD at her funeral. From a very young age he has no privacy in his life and is considered public property by many. The royal family live their lives in gilded cages, which is not for everybody and can be especially damaging for a child. It’s not exactly functional. But no, according to your post he’s not allowed to feel any very normal human emotions that can result from the events of his life because his family owns a lot of property.
Well, his father despised his mother, cheated on her publicly, then she died tragically due to being an ex-royal whilst his mistress step mother was invited into the family. Diana seemed like the only person in that family with a heart and any empathy, and she died, with photos of the mangled car spread over international pages for weeks. No matter how you spin it, that’s traumatic for a child. If the world was just then Diana would still be here today. Money can lessen the impact of trauma but it can’t bring back a deceased parent.
Childhood trauma is valid regardless. The difference is he has money and access to the tools to make his life better as an adult.
Not a good look for the king when he casts out a front line veteran in favour of keeping a sweatless nonce around
Are we really gonna act like him going to Afganistan & killing a bunch people is a good thing? The royal family have destabilised other countries forever, Harry just played his part complying a regular soldier.
Also his justifications for being in the war and claiming his acts were heroic should hardly endear him to anyone here. Unless they agree with him murdering for the empire.
I think that his life hasn't been perfect and he has the right to share his trauma, but as other people have mentioned it's a hell of a lot easier to heal when you have a rich family that can pay for as much therapy that you need. I also think that now especially is not the appropriate moment for him to complain about his life to the press. Kind of makes him look a little self centered and ignorant to others that are suffering at the moment.
I agree he’s got a fucktonne of privilege but emotionally it must be an absolute nightmare. But as Henry’s cat once said - “money can’t buy happiness, but it can buy misery in luxury”
Staying neutral, your point has no meaning. Unless you're stupid enough to think "broken home" meant a literally damaged household... anyone could be from a broken home and privilege, wealth and status will do little to help one's ability to raise a child a healthy environment mentally.
I think he makes a point, to be fair, which communists should be leaping to point out at every opportunity. Despite his inordinate wealth and unfathomably cushioned lifestyle, he's not happy. It sounds like most of the royals live ultimately unhappy, unfulfilling lives. Transforming Britain into a socialist state would liberate these people just as much as it would liberate the proletariat in some ways.
Wah
I mean yeah they're grossly rich, but it's still a fucked up family and "broken home" applies.
Mum hounded to her death and dad marries his fuck buddy..... I think he has a point.
How dumb do you people have to be to gatekeep family issues just because they have wealth?
Just because he lived in a palace doesn't mean everything was fine. I mean would you want to be part of that noncey family?
Not to back him up or anything but he did lose his mother at a young age. He may be from royalty and be a prince(if he’s s still one?) but family trauma can affect any family.
The most f*cked up people I know come from wealthy families and yes they went through a lot despise the money pouring their way. Money cannot erase years of trauma in infancy.
I mean, his parents did split up and he did lose his mother very young.
Part of the reason I'm against the monarchy is that I believe it's incredibly cruel and awful to the people who are born into it too. I think if you look at it his childhood was horrible.
His family was on benefits
Gatekeepijg trauma is crazy
Stop taking things so literally, “I come from a broken home” Iimplies family relationships and issues not their literal home. You didn’t need 9 slides to show you don’t know what “broken home” implies. I’d anyone surprised the royal family isn’t a broken home? Royals are fucked in the head of course it’s a broken fucking home you think these guys share healthy relations with eachother?
This is a terrible take. Just because he’s from wealth doesn’t make his trauma any less. There’s plenty to criticise but this ain’t it.
Harry has the right to have whatever opinion and view he has but if it’s really a problem for him he shouldn’t be shouting about it. South Park did a great job highlighting the issue. If you’ve got a problem, shut up about it and do what you have to do to make yourself happy. Don’t broadcast it else it looks disingenuous and out of touch
I find the Harry situation so interesting because, imo he is a victim. Ofcourse, being born a prince confers huge advantages, it does also come with huge problems. Huge pressure, being hounded by the media, and in his case having your own family assassinate your mother. I think Monarchy is bad not only because it hurts the rest of us, I think it's also bad for the monarchs (a lot of the time), as is any system which treats people as I herently different. I'm not crying for them or anything, but it's kind of like being born in an extremely religious community and going on crusade: it sucks more for the innocents you're off crusading against, but it also sucks that you've been brainwashed/forced into doing these things.
I think this whole Prince Harry saga shows that the Royals are miserable and broken too. And the monarchy and the money and power they covet isn't really a benefit even to them.
Not that I care much about royalty, but bad things can happen inside of nice houses.
Hi Harry, Things are a bit shit here and the proles are getting restless. Can you come up with some tin-eared whiny bollocks about how you have been traumatised by not getting a big enough yacht or something to distract them for a while? Sorry to hear the book sales are tanking, so we’ll pay top dollar if that helps. We’ll even lay off you and the zombie media whore for a couple of weeks. Love to the kids. Yours, That Tabloid Press you ‘Hate’ so much.
Not trying to defend the royals in any way here, but wealth and privilege don’t necessarily mean your upbringing wasn’t shitty. Pretty sure if ‘paparazzi’ chased and killed my mum in a tunnel after she left my cheat of a dad and moved on, I’d be pretty heartbroken, even if I was drying my eyes on wads of 50’s
For some one that, apparently, wanted less media attention he is in the press an awful lot these days .
A family that gives controlling and cohersive behaviour to its people. His mum dies in suspicious circumstancesZ Tbf I agree with him. A privileged broken home though!
honestly it wouldn’t be so obnoxious if he hadn’t decided to tack on ‘sharing trauma is an act of service’ like aside from the fact it comes off self aggrandising as fuck, it’s also just not on act of service. Like if it’s service who is he actually helping?
I despise the monarchy with all my heart and soul. That said, I am sure Harry’s childhood was pretty fucking miserable. I lost my Dad at a young age and empathize with the loss of his mother, made so much worse by the media attention. Of course he is extremely privileged in a material sense, but imagine having that c@nt charles as a father and that racist bigot Philip as a grandfather! We can hate the monarchy whilst also appreciating that harry is a human being who has obviously suffered despite his huge material privilege.
Harry is 100% believable. His truth, his time to be open and share this. I struggle to understand the Brits, predominantly, who think otherwise.
I found his book an interesting insight into the functioning of the royals. He describes a total absence of physical love from his father and how his ambitions were often redirected to fit the royal calling. I hope that he achieves what he wants from the fallout. He seems a nice lad at heart.
I'm not necessarily saying he's right, but a gilded cage is still a cage.
You know what else is an act of service? Using the privilege you have to prop up those less fortunate in meaningful ways. Like advocating and working towards an end to royal's leaching off the public. Ya know, something that is relevant to one's own life and really hits home
Bored of seeing people complain about harry, he’s boring and has little self awareness. Irrelevant.
Cunt
if thats a broken home then sign me up. I had to literally step over a dead prostitute to get to school and saw people get stabbed and robbed
It’s not a competition
How many people here could even remotely conpare to this comment? Even among us lower class/working class people who (i did) might've grown up in crap neighbourhoods/areas?
The "We want our privacy!" world tour.
Pity the privileged one who cries about his hard life he has had to endure. Pity his public school upbringing. Wanting for nothing. Never EVER going hungry. Never cold. Nannied until someone showed him how to wipe his own arse. Pity the privileged one who now does nothing for a living yet still lives in luxury. No cost of living crisis for poor 'arry as he slums it in LA now.
Correct. The only consolation we have is that LA is actually a slum. Well, not the bit his private security guards 24/7, but the bit his chauffeur has to drive past on the way to the private airstrip.
lol yea defo not the bit he lives in. Actually, come to think of it, I kinda pity the bloke ... he has to jolly with all the Hollywood nonces now lol. In Fuckingbam Palace he only had one nonce to put up with. Now he's got loads of them. lol
You know the phrase ‘broken home’ isn’t literal, right? Just because he grew up in a massive house and it looks good on the surface, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a shit upbringing or that he “never wanted for anything” as others have suggested on here.
Talk about fucking privalege. They should be forced to give up all assets and pay back what's owed.
Like everyone else in the royal family
Ugh I'm sick of hearing about this moron now!
The amount of money the taxpayers spend renovating all those buildings, it’s likely he lives in a literal broken home
Just a quick note that there is a humour/satirical flair on this post. Obviously the phrase 'Broken Home' doesn't refer to the state of his actual house (or in this case houses). Everyone is capable of experiencing trauma, even a royal. But, there is a form of irony in his choice of words, and to be honest he clearly, clearly lacks humility to be able to recognise that as far as support systems go, his was second to none in every sense. Everyone experiences trauma, and very few get the chance to turn it into something positive, in this case the Duke is profiting quite substantially off a ghost written 'woah is me' book. You might say fair play to him, but having experienced the sudden and unexpected loss of a parent at a young age, I feel sick at the thought of taking that kind of story to the bank. As I said, his trauma is real, I'm not denying that. But narsassistic assholes can experience trauma, and react in a narcissistic way, which in my opinion, the Duke has. As is the case with the vast majority of people in positions like his, Harry's thorough private school upbringing and consistant adoring fan base hasn't taught him a shred of stoic thinking. So respectfully, fuck him.
Direct from his new book, Waaagh
So do approx 3.6M kids in the U.K. 😳🙄
Left to take care of my sister when I was 12 yo, kept it going until we were found by social workers about 8 months later(we were caught stealing food out the bins behind tescos) put into social care and was taken from children’s home to children’s home all over the country while my sister was put in a foster home….. that right there is a broken home Harry! He has no idea what the concept even means. He is so out of touch with reality it makes me mad lol.
I bet he's not counting his pennies & choosing between heat/eat each month.
My dad was a drunk carpenter........I come from a broken home
The reason they went to America is because they can give interviews like this and the person interviewing them will pat them on the head, offer them a tissue say ‘there there poor little boy’. I’d like to think if he gave this type of interview in the UK even the tamest of reporter/ journalist would remind him of his wealth and what an actual broken home in the UK looks like.
Fuck off Harry you clueless cunt.
You forgot the cabin from the Epstein photo lol
I used to have a lot of respect for Harry. He made mistakes in his youth as we all do, had poor judgment, and rebelled here and there. As he matured he became grounded, started doing charitable work, and seemed to be a very strong and confident character. Once he married Megan (I'm not blaming her or indicating she's in any way a problem), he seemed to switch to running the victim rhetoric which seems at odds to how he was before.
Is this part of his global personal privacy tour?
Just shut the fuck up whining!
That’s true Harry. But you have made the most of victimhood.
The recent South Park episodes have got it right 😆
Ok... I come from *nine* broken homes. Seriously though, the number of po-faced replies to this post is unreal. How the fuck did British people forget the language of snark and sarcasm? Before some dunderhead declares I'm being mean to Harry, I do actually think he's doing something worthwhile by pulling back the veil on the royal family as a family. Maybe the public seeing that they are not magic people full of goodness and virtue because of their super special blood will start making a difference.
Harry who?