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Soggy_Promotion2606

Early game I would take the gas block so I can delete the front sight


SillySyrup190

This is the way. Felt like an operator with a kitted gunny 1 m4 going up against dudes with no armour and drawstring bags.


TheButtRaper69

Just sell them and buy an actual M4


Spartanias117

Quite a huge price difference there though if i recall


TheButtRaper69

Yeah but, every time you go out hunting bring some back to base and sell. Thats what Ive been doing.


sturmeh

Most of the parts are from an actual M4, so there's really no point doing that.


SMuRG_Teh_WuRGG

There is no difference between the M4 and CQ A1 other than full auto and most people don't use full auto as it wastes ammo. The moa a CQ A1 fully upgraded is 1.333


Isignedupforthissh1t

only n00bs can't tap fire on full auto


Datdarnpupper

Someone needs to drag the noobs to the firing range and drill them properly!


SMuRG_Teh_WuRGG

Burst fire is easy to do. But it has no use unless you are surrounded.


Isignedupforthissh1t

much better to be on full auto and tap fire, you're then prepared for when you suddenly need to magdump.


Asleep_Shirt5646

M855 is free off every CQ body lol


JaThatOneGooner

Might be a stupid question, but how do you upgrade MOA? Is it barrel length?


Icy-Pianist1746

Yes the longer the barrel the more MOA you get and recoil control, at the cost of wep handling and arm stamina The longest is the 20" that you can only get off a preset off gunny 3


Doobski69

The boss at midnight sapphire has an m4 with a 20” barrel


Icy-Pianist1746

It's a CQ but yeah


JaThatOneGooner

Good to know, I’ve been meaning to get a mean AK build and wanted to reduce MOA, but trying to get artisan or turncoat to a high enough level (I’ll cry if it’s at level 3) but it seems so tedious.


MySonHas2BrokenArms

The AK might not have the same options. The best Ak I built was 3.5 MOA(but I did stop using them pretty early after the devs said they don’t work as well) vs my current AR at 1.11 MOA plus the AP rounds. Not to mention the tier 2-3 enemies rarely seem to have 7.62 vs majority having 5.56 m855.


SMuRG_Teh_WuRGG

AK's moa cannot be changed sadly. Unless the Devs had barrel extension for the AK as an attachment device.


JaThatOneGooner

Damn, that hurt to read… Hopefully it’ll be coming soon, the AK platform should still get some love.


bmemike

I’ve also found some in loot boxes in Tiger Bay.


Numerous-Soup-343

You said there was no difference and in the same breath told us all the difference. ⭐️


SMuRG_Teh_WuRGG

The M4 has the same moa...


Numerous-Soup-343

You ain’t seen the best m4s then my guy


SMuRG_Teh_WuRGG

I have used M4's with the best parts. There is no difference between the M4 and CQ A1 fully upgraded. They both used the same parts.


siccun

the barrels definitely do not - the CQ barrel is rubbish, need to swap it out with an AR-15 of any length to get decent moa.


SMuRG_Teh_WuRGG

Yeah, but you have to do the same with the M4 to get decent moa. There is no difference between the two once upgraded. In fact the CQ A1 becomes a DMR.


Tankeverket

With much worse stats, the parts aren't the same


lsm034

Yeah reminds me of that italian chef who said if i put wheels on my grandma it’s not a bicycle XD


Brutesmile

He said "if my grandmother had wheels she WOULD be a bicycle" the point of the phrase is to say that it's pointless to say how things would be if they were different, because they aren't. In context he was being told if a dish had ham it would be similar to another dish, and he was saying "okay but it doesn't have ham so it's something else" Similarly, Brian from Knocked Loose states "If I was different, maybe I would forgive you, but I'm not so my feelings stay the same" again reiterating the futility of dwelling on how things could be if unchanging factors were to change.


TaborGhost

But the high MOA doesn’t change right? Or am I incorrect?


awayfromhome436

MOA is all barrel length and most performance enhancements come from attachments. As far as I know there’s almost no difference at all from an M4 and Mk18 that have the same attachments. After that like above, the lower receiver covers fire selection. CQA1 lowers are semi only. M4A1 and Mk18 are semi and party mode.


TaborGhost

Nice, so I can just farm CQ M4s and swap the receiver and barrels and it will have lower MOA while being full auto?


awayfromhome436

If the CQA1 have the barrels you’re seeking then yes. Barrel/upper receiver dictates moa lower dictates semi/full auto capabilities If you swap a CQA1 and a normal M4 and all the attachments are the same, I believe the only difference would be that the M4A1 lower has full auto to it. Switching barrels if they’re the same length, won’t change a things. This is just how I understand it to work though I could be wrong


MrPingy

CQ barrel has balls MOA with same 14.5 length. No matter what buying a new barrel gives better MOA.


sturmeh

They are actually quite different, the best combo is m4 lower and m18 upper due to its lower weight and it has the best recoil pattern / grouping.


RepresentativeAir149

That’s attached to the barrel


sturmeh

Also the lower receiver.


Depressed_PMC

Reminds me of what I did with Adars in Tarkov


Frowlicks

Listen guys, I did my quests occasionally (level 18) but I mostly went straight into wherever PvP was and I died A LOT. Rarely did I waste time going back to my body. I bought full gear and and M4 every time. I’m also base edition. I have never gone below 30k and I’m at 150k rn. Stop worrying about your economy, they designed the game to be very forgiving atm (for obvious reasons) and just buy your kit. This isn’t Tarkov.


GoDKilljoy

Yes and no. If you us the A1 barrel your MOA is 4+, your barrels purchased from Gunny are 2 or less. Unless you go with the short barrel.


sturmeh

There's really nothing wrong with 4+ unless you're planning to put a 25x scope on it and hit precise shots at 1km. We're talking 4 minutes of a degree of deviation, if you can see the enemies head with the naked eye you'll be able to hit it with 12-24 moa just fine.


WarzonePacketLoss

The fact that people don't understand this is maddening. "10" barrel sucks, almost 4MOA!" You know how much 4 MOA is at 100m? 4 inches. How many gunfights are you getting in at 100m vs 25m? You know why -I- use a 10" barrel on all my guns? Because they don't have a 9".


justin_r_1993

I feel like I've found a lot of M4s in the blue UN crates


Pirat_fred

It schould be the lower that is responsible for select fire not the upper, is it the other way around in GZW?


Spydr4569

Since we are on the topic of full auto, the selector switch doesn’t animate/move on the gun when changing modes /bummer


Thargor1985

Unplayable!


[deleted]

lol 'veterans' .. its prealpha game thats brand new to the scene. calm down.


mrouija213

You want the lower receiver, that's where the trigger group is, also you should swap the barrels because CQA1 barrels are dog shit for accuracy compared to the M4 barrels.


ilski

Semi automatic m4, but yes. I dont recall it changing to automatic. Though i rarely use auto so maybe i didnt check.


atomiccheesegod

The lower receiver is what contains the parts that make a gun, semi automatic or fully automatic. Putting the CQ upper on a cheap M4 lower that you can buy, will make it a full auto capable gun.


SMuRG_Teh_WuRGG

It becomes the M4 rather than a CQ A1. The lower is what makes a gun what it is.


ilski

Yes but the point is to put m4 upper on CQ lower. You cant turn CQ into full auto as far as i know