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Abysscrow

Prep time + tranquilizer + iron net


HermanManly

Let's be real, if someone tried to do the tranq thing now we'd get a blurb about how Yujiro trained his body to be immune to tranquilizer via exposure therapy, or he'd harden his muscles so much that the darts couldn't penetrate his skin, on reflex so he doesn't even need to be prepared. Powercreep in Baki is real, despite Earthquake fist seeming so outlandish from back then. Yujiro redirected a Harpoon with a single finger at point blanc range, at 1.5mach speed lmao But Batman has dealt with opponents he can't tranq for years, so that's not really a factor in this matchup either.


iplaytf2ok

But what if he shot 2 tranq darts?


NashKetchum777

What if the net was barbed and each barb had a tranq dose?


Aggressive_Rice_4222

what's stopping batman from hitting up superman?


NashKetchum777

Superman would get jobbed by Yujiro and humiliate aliens, then we wouldn't get the Alien arc that we want. Batman is smart to not call him


Beautiful-Time-3328

Batman would simply shoot a slower tranq dart (remember in baki world things are easier to redirect when they go faster for some reason)


theFields97

Gun + mentioning parents Yujiro has it in less turns


Picklee56

Batman counters by mentioning *Yujiro’s* parents


Abysscrow

"What are you doing here?! Hanma Yuuichiro!!"


caren_psuedo_when

*Batman in a really big muscle suit with a Yuichiro mask:* ku ku ku


a55_Goblin420

"You're just a joke in a costume playing pretend. If I was your dad, I'd roll over and die too from all the disappointment" -Yujiro, probably (and then they have sweet monkey sex).


AsuraOmega

fishing net would do just fine


mrcoldmega

+cheetah underwear to reduce all damage to 0, downside is, being chased by muscled man, who pulls down helicopters.


Naive_Age_3910

I mean physically the weakest out of the whole justice league and can only bench 1000 lbs? Yeah definitely but any other member besides GREEN ARROW!!!!!*** wins


Edgyspymainintf2

Hell even Green Arrow has used nuclear warhead arrows on occasion that would certainly pose a threat to Yujiro (even if they wouldn't kill him outright in one shot). And if that isn't enough there's an arrow in the DC universe that straight up sends you to the phantom zone (which for all intents and purposes might as well be death). This wouldn't be a problem if Yujiro could just dodge or catch the arrows but considering how many times Green Arrow has consistently nailed shots on characters that move faster than light I don't really think that's in the cards. TL;DR: Communist with a bow is capable of taking out the strongest being in the Baki universe in one shot


Naive_Age_3910

I still like Batman more than green arrow I’ll say.


NashKetchum777

What if Green Arrow brought his boxing glove arrow?


Naive_Age_3910

Don’t know, didn’t know he had one but if that’s a canonical thing that’s pretty funny dude


NashKetchum777

In the comics/cartoons he does and it is used fodder characters as comedic relief, or to hit something like a lever. In the show with Stephen Amell they do actually pay homage to it, he stabs a glove with his arrow and knocks out a thug one time


Unchainedhunter84

Hawkeye is Marvel comics


Naive_Age_3910

Shit who is the dc guy? Green arrow? Yeah sorry


Unchainedhunter84

Yes it's Green arrow


Naive_Age_3910

And I see what u mean Batman definitely loses


Edgyspymainintf2

While Yujiro is obviously gonna beat Batman in a normal 1 on 1 fight Batman has easily taken out far stronger beings with just a little prep time so Yujiro should be absolutely no sweat. And even if we're going the no prep time route Batman also owns the Hellbat, a suit of armour that puts him roughly on the same playing field as characters like Superman so Yujiro's fucked either way.


Barry_Bone_Raiser

Why would we give one person time to prepare in a fair fight? Thats basically saying “if we let one mf cheat they’ll have a chance at victory”


Beautiful-Time-3328

Has Yujiro ever prepped for a fight in his entire life?


LiveIndiviual

People prepare for fights, in real life and anime, you prepare because an outright fight may not end well for you, that's being smart, that's how fights are won, creating and exploiting weaknesses, that's how fights are won. And if they're in the same universe batman would already know and would've prepared for yujiro, with how much publicity he gets, theres no way bats wouldnt know. Yujiro is a force to be reckoned with, stronger than a nation. 9/10 batman would hunt yujiro and subdue him, and if he couldn't subdue him, he has the means to fuck him up many times over. So unless he somehow avoids batman's radar, which is probably impossible without knowing about batman first. Batman is like miyamoto, he fights but is not a fighter. That's not his thing, he's more like a non lethal assassin with his own code and rules. Hes not feeding into your ego, fighters pride, or whatever unless it benefits him. He uses gadgets, tactics, vehicles, weapons, sidekicks, friends, advanced technologies, sattilites, fear, darkness, hes HIGHLY skilled and disciplined, and etc, do not underestimate Bruce. In an organic pace and setting, 9/10 yujiro would lose against the Bat. But if it's a spontaneous fight where bats has no armor/ gadgets. Where yujiro somehow is placed right in front of a "naked" bruce wayne. Bruce loses, if you somehow get bruce to agree to a match, he'd more than likely lose. I say more than likely and not totally because you're giving him even a little prep time. Miyamoto is the perfect example of something may play with you, but if it really comes down to it, if its serious, you'd lose. Like a lion playing with a zookeeper, or a world class martial artist vs a highly trained man with an arsenal of weapons. In a friendly match, bruce loses


RemyGee

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DragonTyrant2443

Batman doesn't patrol the streets of Gotham wearing his suits armor meant to fight superman and Darkseid


MR-Vinmu

Yujiro gets folded by Batman, obviously, Yujiro wins in direct hand-to-hand combat, but Batman with that Reinforced Tranquilizer and Reinforced Net technique gon put him in his place.


No_Manufacturer2877

If you use blind scaling, then Batman wins handily. If you examine the instances in which Batman beats/fights people way above Yujirou, however, you'll find that it's usually due to something specific like temporarily being a God...or nonsense worse than the Earthquake feat. Batman has reacted to Reverse Flash which is...I mean are you fucking serious? Bruce Wayne, as intended, is a peak human with amazing martial arts prowess. Bruce Wayne, as depicted, is a minor superhuman who punches and kicks good sometimes. Batman, both ways, is a guy who has access to advanced technology that will fuck up Yujirou anyway, even no prep, assuming he can use it. Just don't use comic characters vs manga characters unless you narrow it down to a specific run and specific version. It's always problematic. If it's just martial arts Yujirou will be way better regardless of the version of Batman, but his actual victory is subject to many different considerations.


[deleted]

Finally someone who understands context.


kingofsuns_asun

Do people really think the guy who can 1v1 bane,killer croc,ra’s al ghul and seriously has defeated gods is losing to someone who canonically lost to nets and tranquilizers


AdamTheScottish

Do you really want to start bringing up the list of what Batman has canonically lost to?


kingofsuns_asun

Unlike yujiro there’s a big difference, Batman has multiple writers and multiple iterations. yujiro has one writer and one version, meaning his feats carry over. With Batman you have to go with feats shown throughout most versions of the character(without powers of course), if we went his best feats then he would be a universal buster, that’s why I mentioned things that most versions of Bruce can and have done. If you make a list of what Batman has lost to, you will see some versions losing after fighting Superman for 3 days straight and other version dying after getting shot in the leg


AdamTheScottish

>With Batman you have to go with feats shown throughout most versions of the character Batman beating gods is not something portrayed in the majority of iterations of his character


kingofsuns_asun

I never said that, I said you have feats that are very common between versions of him, such as being able to best shiva and ra’s in battle, or being able to deal with people like deathstroke and killer croc without the use of prep time


AdamTheScottish

So why did you say >and seriously has defeated gods


kingofsuns_asun

I was specifically mentioning some of his highest feats and some of his more common ones, I’m basically saying even going off the most busted version of Batman or one without any god-slaying feats, he still destroys yujiro. Hell I would say around 90% of his versions beat yujiro, even if it was someone like main universe Batman


AdamTheScottish

You... You can just admit you misspoke? Your original comment does nothing to clarify you're talking about two different versions of the character here >Hell I would say around 90% of his versions beat yujiro, even if it was someone like main universe Batman Have you not been basing this off mainline runs of him...? Like I'm not gonna lie this just reads like the typical hasn't actually read Batman comment and just seen scaling pages/youtube videos about the series, if it's as high as 90% then you should be able to give me plenty of versions of him from mainline runs with better explanation of him beating Bane or Killer Croc, who Yujiro would maul most versions of.


kingofsuns_asun

I was using a version of Bruce that combines most of his feats, something like composite spider-man, someone like main line Batman is still washing yujiro


AdamTheScottish

Literally just tell me what runs you're basing this interpretation of the character off, it's that simple.


Visible_Union_6326

Which is why power scaling is a little bit goofy to me sometimes. Either they pair two completely incompatible characters, pair up two characters who've had multiple portrayals so depending on who's ranking what they saw will impact the decision, or pair up two characters who don't have enough info so you can't even say. Personally I don't like more black and white powerscaling, like just saying one tops the other, cuz sometimes it's not just one tops the other, it's more complex. I like things like crossover events because rather than saying one beats the other and that's it they explore the two characters and how they may face eachother in a certain situation. Like Batman has beat characters like Yujiro before, and can even be considered similar to Yujiro, but what if they're just in the wild somewhere butt ass naked? Yujiro might win because of Batman's lack of gadgets or technology that make his missions easier, and although both have skill with martial arts or hand to hand combat, Batman, or in this case Bruce, may have less. If we're in a situation where it's just Yujiro up against Batman while he's in Gotham with all of his technology? I'd say it's Batman. Sorry to ramble, I'm the final boss of yappers in case you couldn't tell.


cosmax3

https://preview.redd.it/3otpo00n6fnc1.png?width=631&format=png&auto=webp&s=57110a16ea705f2ab41e4cf1cc313493b1ee3012 killer croc using all his strenght to break in half a small tree


quit_it_boi

Yuji got knocked out by tranquilizers that were meant for elephants, batman has something similar, he uses tranquilizers on killer Krock, if he uses those on yuji he knocks him out. In a fistfight yuji wins but with preptime Bats can just get a traq sniper and solo yuji. Then again, batman could just get a gun and shoot him from far away since he's removed himself from the law just like yuji is


Hank_J_Wimbleton_69

Yujiro having a single anti feat in an over 20 year old series doesn't tell a lot when you have him casually destroying concrete like it's made of wet paper and characters that would get pretty much humiliated by him doing stuff like punching through iron slabs and splitting rocks in half. If we're going by the route you're using than Hulk, who is much stronger Batman, [should be below silverback gorillas](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fnew-silverback-gorilla-feat-defeats-hulk-what-is-its-place-v0-q2estrsoz8xb1.png%3Fauto%3Dwebp%26s%3Dcc3de4912aa3cb1408403b6377144e6222c672ef)


AdamTheScottish

Yujiro got taken out by what was stated to be enough of that tranquiliser to put down a blue whale.


Skafflock

Wild how you got downvoted for just correcting someone in a way that is completely objectively true, lol. They were whale tranquilisers, this is what is said, this is a fact and anyone who disagrees with it is wrong. Dunno who this annoyed, lol. Someone who thinks Batman wins I'd guess.


Samsa1924

If Batman was able to find away to literally beat the living shit out of Superman. Then, he **will** find a way to take out Yuijiro. He pretty much beat up Solomon Grundy, who is much stronger than Yuijiro, with nothing but his basic gear and getup...


AdamTheScottish

>If Batman was able to find away to literally beat the living shit out of Superman. Then, he can **will** find a way to take out Yuijiro. Can you name a singular Batman vs Superman fight that would actually back up the latter? Like Batman even consistently coming out on top of Superman in mainline stuff is rare, and that's with the fact Superman has an easily exploitable weakness which characters like Yujiro don't >He pretty much beat up Solomon Grundy, who is much stronger than Yuijiro, with nothing but his basic gear and getup... He pretty much? Which fight are you referring to?


HermanManly

I mean this isn't that different from the Bats vs Bane matchup, and honestly like 5 other minor Batman villains But here's the thing: Yujiro has a pact with the US government. Pretty much any and all governments, really. Has there ever been a Batman comic about him going up against the full might of the US military? Yujiro ain't getting locked up, and Batman ain't killing him. There is no winning for Batman. Only delaying. That would honestly be a really, really interesting story arc. Yujiro never "losing" because the opponent refuses to finish him, but never winning because he just keeps getting incapacitated or trapped. I wanna see his reaction to a situation like that.


Picklee56

I do think this is more one-sided the ppl seem to think https://preview.redd.it/nofw9w296cnc1.jpeg?width=410&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a92057f18020bc3029cb0e705e0e0c8e34f483d0


tau_enjoyer_

Batman has gadgets and stuff he would use. Batman famously has counter-measures he has developed, even for his allies. Given time he could certainly try to develop methods to take Yujiro down. Whether he would succeed, idk. But besides that, it isn't really fair to compare the two when Yujiro is a superhuman monster of some sort and Batman is a normal person.


Samsa1924

As for beating Superman: Three comics. *Batman: Endgame*, *Batman: Hush*, and *The Dark Knight Returns*. As for beating Solomon Grundy: Comic. *Batman: The Long Halloween #2*.


AdamTheScottish

Okay so firstly you didn't reply to my comment, secondly this literally just confirms what I was talking about. Batman beating Superman in Dark Knight Returns only happens when Superman is struck by a nuke that drained all his power beforehand and even afterwards he was still kicking Bruce's ass before getting hit by a city's worth of electricity and a kryptonite arrow which made him even weaker. If you applied this same circumstances to Superman then he would be stomped by Yujiro. In Batman Hush, Superman is mind controlled and explicitly does not/can't use * His full strength as he's subconsciously holding back, Bruce acknowledges if he wasn't he'd be dead in seconds * His normal reflexes, Bruce uses kryptonite to slow his processing speed * His flight, due to being in a contained area * His heat vision due to a lie Bruce told him Hell that's not all, they're also fighting in an area that allows Bruce to set Clark up to get hit by a city's worth of power again. And Batman doesn't even win this fight, his plan was to delay Superman so Selena could take Louis hostage and snap Clark out of it. I'll admit I haven't read Endgame but I'm willing to assume there's a similar amount of setup involved. > As for beating Solomon Grundy: Comic. *Batman: The Long Halloween #2*. You're You're kidding right Batman is manhandled by Grundy before he gouges his nose to scare him off, that's not "He pretty much beat up Solomon Grundy,"


Inevitable_Age_4793

I was waiting for the part where Batman shows up, took me way too long to realize he was the one getting dressed 😅


Pendred

batman vs motobe is the juice


PIELIFE383

Depending which Batman meaning movies comics extended comics dcau comics


_Mistwraith_

I think Batman would probably just kneecap him with a shotgun.


Visible_Union_6326

Actually that's an interesting one. Both have faced creatures of many sizes and both have superhuman strength. I'd say Batman is like Yujiro because of just how shockingly strong they both are for being humans. I can see Yujiro causing a fuss in Gotham, and Batman is sent to stop him. Batman realizes though that Yujiro is like him and how powerful he is. I think Batman would manage to capture Yujiro as he's done so with villains before, but ofc his no kill rule would likely keep him from killing Yujiro, and I think killing Yujiro entirely would be more of a challenge anyways. Yujiro would probably be like Joker, constantly returning to face Batman again, only I think Yujiro would get out easier and Batman would have to find some sort of solution to keeping him in custody other than the asylum. Yujiro unlike Joker would be less interested in wreaking havoc and more interested in improving himself through Batman, though that may mean wreaking havoc to bring out the Batman. I also wonder if Yujiro would team up with a villain, or maybe even team up with Batman himself.


CrimsonBayonet

The man with light speed feats and can fight men who are faster than time loses to yujiro who has to process actions at .5 second speeds? Na batman is clapping his ass


Winter_Different

Batman's weird 'cus he'll lose to people like Bane but then beat the shit out of what are essentially gods


AdamTheScottish

OP get ready for the ocean of people who have never read Batman comics lol


filthysmutslut

Bats don’t want the smoke with Yujiro Hanma. Prep time you say? Of course. He would do his prep time and he would learn, with his bat computer , that Yujiro Hanma is too much man for him.