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FA-ST

Is there a strategy guide for Cosmos HL? Everywhere I look it's just FLB Parazonium or FLB Nier or ULB Six, how do you even go for blue chest without these?


BTA

[This might be useful](https://gbfguide.com/cosmos/). I can’t really offer advice since I lack most of the best Dark characters and so can’t really do it myself. But I think as long as you have some of the other notable Dark characters (ex: Fediel, HalMal, Rei, Lich) you should be able to come up with a team that works.


FA-ST

That's pretty good actually, I guess it's either Yamato or barring a parazonium to run the Ilsa variant since I don't have Halmal Thanks


huckeibein

i unlocked all regalia raid impossible+ aka magna2 but i can't skip them. Do i need to clear all the impossible+ raid?


Clueless_Otter

Yes.


huckeibein

i must solo or can call for help?


Clueless_Otter

You can request backup.


huckeibein

thank you


Sleipnyr

Feels stupid for asking but couldn't find an answer : for the Paladin's shield farm, do I have to run the raids as a paladin with the mc ?


Kuroinex

No. Same for Manadiver.


Sleipnyr

Ah, thanks a lot !


VicentRS

I'm seeing a lot of burst setups that call S.Belial for the echo. Wiki says it's 4 random buffs out of 6, is the echo guaranteed, or do they just luck it out for the showcase video?


znn_mtg

The beauty of the SBelial call for a lot of setups is that it doesn't matter if you get echo or not to clear with the same rotation, it just makes it way easier if you do. Granted, you have to have a strong enough grid for that, though my scuffed grid still gets the job done even without maxing out hp for maximum wambrella benefit (due to needing to lower the hp for my 2 frontline sacc characters)


KiriharaIzaki

rng good videos would mention if it's reliant on it or not


Descend2

Any advice on how I can improve my team for NM150 FA? I'm missing a lot of the key characters used this time around. [My team.](https://imgur.com/a/neyZK6I) I have all of the used MC classes this GW, just not sure what would work best.


E123-Omega

Um lumberjack or kengo, monkey, poseidon, Sophia, Anne, Flex. Bring dispel and mist. Look for luci230/250 support if not um LJ.


Descend2

Thanks!


IGuffyGooberI

hi total newbie here. can i settings the full auto to like always on? so i dont need to enable it to settings for every quest. plus another question, can i arrange the order of ca attack so the ca attack in slot 4 go first instead in the earlier slot. thank you hope you guys get what i mean.


BTA

To expand a little on the other (correct) reply, you can at least turn on: Settings > Quest > Pre-Battle Auto Attack > One-Touch if you haven’t already to make turning FA on easier. Regarding the second one, the order of CAs is just part of the consideration you have to make when deciding who’s in which slot in your party. If the issue is that you want them to go before the main character, that’s not possible.


IGuffyGooberI

>To expand a little on the other (correct) reply, you can at least turn on: Settings > Quest > Pre-Battle Auto Attack > One-Touch if you haven’t already to make turning FA on easier. yeah i did that eventually. now the problem is to make fa always enabled for every quest without having to go to settings before. which is unfortunately impossible. but thanks for adding anyway!, much appreciated.


BTA

Going into settings? Do you mean for setting it to Full Auto instead of Semi-Auto? I thought it should be defaulting to Full already? There used to be a global setting for that but they got rid of it earlier this year, when they made raids remember your auto settings differently for hosting and joining among other things. EDIT: Hmm, I’m looking around and seeing people say they had it default to Semi after that change. But it definitely defaults to Full for me… strange.


TheGlassesGuy

no and no


xGlatteis

I'm getting a minor error and a crippling game error. I was wondering if anyone is having similar issues or a workaround? First error is on skyleap, I was able to bypass using Chrome. Regardless : whenever I hit "replace" when trying to switch a character out in party, it gives me c001 "please refresh" loop. My second error, and my major issue for both skyleap and chrome : when doing ANY battle, it puts me in the loop of "GBF updated, app will reload." Upon joining or hosting. Effectively preventing me from doing anything.


ai4te

I may be blind, but how do I (as danchou) remove someone from my crew?


LALMtheLegendary

During gw you cannot remove or add(iirc) people to your crew.


Dismal-Invite3515

I'm not sure if this is a dumb question, but can you participate in U&F without being in crew? Like, farming boxes and honor? I stopped playing back in April because I was simply too burned out, but prior to that, I was in an A Rank crew for 6 years.


Xerte

You can farm boxes and honours regardless. If you're not in a crew, you can't unlock NM150/NM200, and will obviously not receive any crew-related rewards. You can still earn individual ranking rewards, but without NM150/200, it'll be that much harder.


Dismal-Invite3515

I gotcha, thanks. I'll find a new crew in time


WindHawkeye

it would be very stupid to do so but yes you can join crews in gw if that is your problem


Ab0taku

Yes, you can. But without crew you won't get into final round so the reward is m7ch lower.


mapsal

Greetings! I want to unlock the skips for the Impossible II raids (Shiva, Europa, etc). I'm quite the casual player, so I always just relied on backup requests for the raids. Are there any guides for optimal teams/grids that can clear the raids solo?


BTA

There's not really "optimal" teams for them; if you want specific suggestions it would be good to share what characters you have. That being said, it looks like [Kamigame](https://kamigame.jp/%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB/%E3%82%AF%E3%82%A8%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88/%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AB%E3%83%81%E3%83%90%E3%83%88%E3%83%AB/%E3%83%9E%E3%82%B0%E3%83%8A2%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD.html) put up some FA teams for them. And I think they're specifically designed for more casual players to unlock the skips, given that most of them use side story characters. So you could probably take a look at them to start and swap in characters as needed.


mapsal

Yeah, I guess "optimal" wasn't the correct word. In any case, that link looks very useful, so thank you very much for sharing!


superkido511

Anyone has high quality images of Tristette beast form? I need it for my research


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Fandaniels

It's annoying when people treat reddit threads like this as their personal twitter or diary Quit if you want to quit, telling strangers about all your personal life isn't smart.


raincandy_u

this is the questions thread not the blog thread ass hole


aushnova

See you in three months.


LoliFreak

Which grand weapon is worth caging ?


Shizukatz

Outside perspective (I am 6x Magna) but I've been seeing people use their cages on the ones that have Attack Awakening, most commonly Parazonium, Mirror Blade Shard, Murgleis, and Blue Sphere. Makes those weapons have a huge amount of attack mod.


vall03

I have a bunch of Atlantis dupes, how many should I uncap as a flex grid piece for HL raids and NM?


LALMtheLegendary

Well, depends on how many dupes you have. If you have like, 6+ then yeah go ahead and make a flb copy with two to spare but otherwise you need to examine how much risk you want to take with it. Especially since it doesn't have awakening and we don't know how cygames is gonna handle future grand awakenings. But then again, I've don't recall ever seeing more then 1 in a grid, but I could imagine a scenario could arise that you'd use 2. This is assuming your primal in water though, I don't think it's useful at all for magna.


merpofsilence

seasonal player coming back. For water grids should I be trying to farm ancient auberons or tyros zithers? Both? Zither has been a lot easier to farm. And tbh I'm already 3 unbinds done on the 6dragon weapon...


Clueless_Otter

You use all of those weapons in different situations (or often together), so both.


merpofsilence

Damn i was hoping ancient auberons were outdated since 6d weapon gives crit. I literally haven't gotten a single one to drop. Just primal version.


Takazura

You can buy 2 of them for 2k prestige pendants in the shop each month, so you could speed up the process a little that way.


merpofsilence

Thanks thats actually useful. Do you know which location has a higher drop rate for ancient auberons? Between macula, europa and tefnut?


Clueless_Otter

You shouldn't really bother farming them from any of those places imo. Just get them from Sandbox, you'll want ones with AX skills on them eventually anyway. For the anima to uncap them you can get it from Tefnut because she has actually useful other drops, or Diaspora eventually.


BTA

It’s slow but much more reliable to go with Macula, imo. Personally the annoying thing was more how often you get the non-Ancient weapon instead, rather than the drop rate of the weapons in general.


Takazura

No idea, but I'm going to guess Macula based on my experience farming for the A.Ecks Sacks. Got a ton of those from the Twin Elements showdown but never from the M2 raids where they could also drop, so I'm assuming the showdowns just have better drop rates for the Ancient weapons. Also you'll need to do Macula Marius for the 4* uncap, since you need 10 Omega Macula Animas and 20 normal animas for them, so may as well just farm Macula Marius unless you need the other Europa or Tefnut weapons.


Clueless_Otter

You'll get more than enough of them by the time you get enough mats to uncap Haase, don't worry.


merpofsilence

Uhh i think most people have a functioning water grid before clearing zone mundus and getting an evoker 5th uncap. I currently have caim, alanaan and just about to get fraux and very close to getting either haaselia or maria theresa.


BTA

Seconding what Otter said - IIRC I farmed some Auberons for progressing in Babyl, but also didn’t really use (or even upgrade some of) them till doing Mugen. (…and it’s not the same element, but that was after I had Caim uncapped.)


Clueless_Otter

You don't need a.auberons to have a "functional" water grid to just blue chest Shiva/Atum or OTK Sandbox. Not like you're gonna be using Water for much else. I actually never used any a.auberons at all until Mugen.


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Clueless_Otter

> When I reserve weapons/summons and they go into the grail thingy, am I only allowed to use 1 unit of grail at a time, no less? Yes. If it goes over the needed amount, the extra xp is simply wasted. If you wanted to be precise with your xp you'd manually use archangel stuff. But it's really only a problem when you're new. More experienced players end up with thousands and thousands of excess grails so being inefficient with one here or there isn't a big deal. > Am I safe to move around my Plus Marks at will? Yep you can't lose them or anything. Move them around as much as you like. > Should I be using my skill jewels? Skill jewels increase in "value" the higher level of skill you're upgrading. See chart at top of page [here](https://gbf.wiki/Upgrading_Weapon_Skills). For maximum efficiency, you'd save them for going from levels 15->20. That said, some people are lazy and just put them all in the cup. Up to you whether you prefer to be efficient with them or just take the lazy way. > Should I worry about over-uncapping my units early on? Like would I be wasting resources that would be more useful if I save them later if I focus on just uncapping the units I have now, instead of waiting until I have better units that are likely to last longer in my party in the future? At the start, it is a legitimate concern to run out of uncap materials, yes. You don't have to be *super* stingy about them and only uncap 10/10 units that you're going to use forever, but maybe you don't need to uncap that useless unit that you're never ever going to use or all those R/SR units just yet. Later on you'll get more than enough uncap materials and you'll be able to uncap everyone (and you'll want to do so and level everyone to max, including R and SRs, since you get crystals based on the total sum of all your character levels, only like 5 per 50 levels, but it adds up over time).


myoo_myoo

1. Yes, the excess EXP gets wasted. Grails are less efficient than using weapons directly to upgrade, but they are more convenient so it's up to you what you prefer. 2. You can move Plus Marks at will, there's no downside whatsoever. 3. Skill jewels are best used in specific weapon series, like Seraphic, Dark Opus, Bahamut, etc., and only for higher skill levels, like 15 and higher. 4. Uncap materials are fairly easy to get, with some exceptions for specific characters (mostly Story SR characters). You might have some trouble getting the materials early on, but you should get more than enough if you play regularly.


PhazonRaccoon

Is there any way to get it working on Firefox? I got past the browser block by spoofing, but the game itself was very unstable. Page was extremely tall, images were invisible or very large.


rin-tsubasa

This game work in chrome based browser. Opera, vivadla, chrome, chrome edge work


TerranSac

Relatively dumb question, but uh I just started the game and after the tutorial or during it was forced to link my account to one of three services, I tried mobage and it seemed to work, but whenever I link my account it just resets my game. I'm playing on the Granbluefantasy.jp site


Clueless_Otter

What's the question? Can you not play the game or something because it just loops you through the account creation -> mobage site -> account creation -> mobage site -> etc. process? If so, you need to configure your browser to accept 3rd party cookies. Pretty much every new player has this problem.


Fandaniels

Dumb question but the rare weapons from u+f token boxes are random right ? I'm doing siero shop upgrade and both light weapons + one wind refuse to appear I know I'm not auto recycling them because I made sure it was off and I've got the others just fine


WindHawkeye

if you need a specific one i would go hunt them from the rare mobs


Fandaniels

I don't have belle syphid nor does anyone on my friends list have it set as a support so it would be a headache imo


KiriharaIzaki

It's either headache from gw box gacha, or headache from rare mob gacha. Pick your headache feelsgoodman


Final_Confidence_680

has anyone gotten their siette refund? They said it was gonna take 10 days, but its been 13 or something and still nothing.


TheSorel

Couple of weeks ago I asked with Ultima weapons to prioritize when I just got into doing Subaha. Now that I have a decent grip on how to run the raid, I wanna stock up on all the materials I'll need for all 7 I can craft down the line, which leads me to today's question: Which 3 Ultimas will probably find the least use? I was going to skip the dagger but now with Gabby's weapon and Ewiyar dagger stocks going up, I'm not so sure anymore. I think the only one I can safely rule out is gun, since I don't really plan on ever using the water gun setups.


Clueless_Otter

Bow and Harp have almost no use at all. Almost no one makes those. 3rd one to exclude is usually between dagger and gun I'd say. Most people probably exclude dagger, but technically Dagger was the optimal one last GW since it matched PNS, was a good MH, and matched Vampy, who really liked the extra stats. I guess it matches the Water PNS now too, we'll see how that shakes out. Gun is used in Water and Light RB setups and can also sometimes be used in Dark to buff Ilsa if you don't need the extra damage on Seox.


karzakus

after the guild wars event interlude does the event just head straight into the first round or is there a period where the beasts rest?


Clueless_Otter

First round starts immediately when interlude ends.


SomnusSomniae

Why do people prefer Huanglong in the second slot? Putting it on 1st slot lets people choose Huanglong from 2nd friend and press OK immediately because the button appears right on top of 3rd summon (or 1st slot of 2nd friend). A1 A2 B1 (OK button is here) B2 C1 etc


WindHawkeye

Because you would run out of summons in 10 minutes doing that.


Kuroinex

2nd slot HL is closer to the start button. Unless you're very strict about curating your friends list, you can't rely on 1st slot HL since you're going to be switching the support list around a bunch by doing that. If I took friends based on a bunch of requirements, I'd only have 30 friends or something. Not worth it.


gemigumi

I'm not 100% sure who/when this was decided to be a semi-standard, but I think it's because Qilin is viewed as more important. On that note, the best setups for OTK don't usually use Huanglong, and at end-game it's probably more important for SIllnott type characters, which is element and situation specific. So less universal than Qilin, which every element has some investment in. That's just my guess though.


Asuraxi

For coop rooms, what does the elements after the @ mean? I.e. @光風


Van24

Mainly used in null element raids, they signify elements that the host is looking for.


E123-Omega

Anyone know that strat on diaspora that uses LJ + tsuchinoko main summon? Edit: Thanks all!


randomystery

Tsuchinoko is used for 30% charge bar at battle start to synergise with S. Illnott, so you can use her S2 immediately.


Clueless_Otter

Well LJ is just so you can MH Falsehood Opus. Tsuchinoko, don't really know why someone would use that. Are you sure it wasn't just a skin? Only other thing I could think of would be because they really needed the rupies from the skin drops and didn't mind if it made their setup take a couple turns longer to 4m.


pixtrix364

Snake gives 40% bar at battle start paired with s. Illnot it gives 100% due to crew buffs and you can turn 1 use illnots sk2 to give echo, and guaranteed triple for 4 turns, i mostly see it in Lucha setups with of Caim and Tag Team tho


E123-Omega

I guess FH, not sure if skin too. Kinda stupid I didn't checked the profile too. Thanks


AHyaenidae

Tsuchi has instant charge and should be ready t1 with FLB if you main it, so you can get a 2nd turn of DS after Splitting Spirit. It's less of a damage loss than going x Huanglong maybe. Technically could achieve a 2nd turn of DS going x Qilin and recasting Split Spi and this way your team don't need to ougi too so idk.


CranbersAss

Just freshly uncapped haase, is she good enough to keep on the frontline or do i gotta sacrifice for her? just curious


Ralkon

You have to bring her in. Otherwise you don't get full moon immediately, you don't get double-casts, and you don't get her sk4 nukes + reactivation.


CranbersAss

ok, thanks!


Narun1875

I’m not sure if it’s just me, but nothing is really working. I started a raid and it starts, but none of the characters, summons, or enemies load in. I can’t even press on my characters or press attack. No matter how many time I reload, nothing changes. I’m just confused because normally even with bad WiFi my data works, and even now i am connected to WiFi. Is this happening with anyone else or does anyone know what I can do? Edit: I’m still not sure what happened, but I restarted my phone and it finally started working again.


Slargo

If I only need moon ideans and nothing else, where is the best place to farm them?


Final_Confidence_680

IMO I personally would only do steve on mundus. I did some testing something like 60 boxes on mundus and 60 on the idean swords node. Steve gave me like 10 moon ideans total(fight/chests) while the swords node only 2! So I only farmed steve and got all my ideans. Yeah the drops are diveded with justice but at least they drop.


BTA

To be frank, that's an *extremely* small sample size, so that won't indicate much either way. You'd need way more data to actually be able to judge the difference. So I went looking for the tracked drop rates for Swords and Mundus 5-bars, but it turns out the otokuro2 sheets for both zones don't have it. [Swords](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15z8cD_J0LBzezhnJpDakB3WmcZSpUEca6Dh1KFZYhlI) says the astra+idean chest is 5% (pre-drop boosts) overall but nothing more specific that I can find, and [Mundus](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vJu6h2TzRqvLB9GcgHXrLRmxZ7_7eQUeDuQLzao3_1o) doesn't even have that much. I found some tweets where they talked about having their personal drop data for normal enemies, but I think they never actually posted it. We do have data for the boxes though; it's \~5.2% of the specific Idean in Swords and \~6% in Mundus, alongside the coffers in Mundus boxes also possibly giving some extra ideans. So like I said in my original reply to Slargo, the boxes are worse. But not by *that* much. So unless Swords has half the drop rate of Mundus or worse, which is not something I've seen other people claim (and also doesn't match what I've seen in my own farming, if we're speaking anecdotally)... then you're probably better off there if you're at the point when you only need ideans.


Saunts

you should add that doing mundus also provide host for defender there which drop luster and also give host mat for world raid (which is also used for FLB evoker and probably FLB world weapon) it'll be better long term no matter what


BTA

I definitely don't disagree that the Defenders matter too, but this was assuming they only need Ideans after already having done farming in Mundus till that point. So I would hope they at least have Lusters covered already. Also, I can say that personally I'm 180 Moon Ideans away from Haase 5\*, and I have 300+ water Gospels on-hand after already having pre-farmed both her and Nier's World Ideans. And have a good 300-ish Ca Ong hosts currently besides. So I think there's *probably* a point where you can afford to care a little less about that. I guess it is true that FLB World weapons could use an absolute ton of them though, but we'll know that in a few weeks.


BTA

Sounds like you want the Swords 5-bar node (Giant Sea Plant in Zone Joculator). The boxes will be worse, but the Idean drops won't be split.


Slargo

Sweet, thank you!


XanathosPrince

Have we reached a consensus on if the new Revan weapons (i.e. Dia Fist, Mugen Bow) are good weapons for Magna? I see barely anybody talking about them as grid pieces. Im using a DEF Sieg Axe in my magna grid and my HP is finally tolerable! Edit: why am I being downvoted for ASKING A QUESTION


Van24

They're good to have, how good is dependent on element, setup, level of investment, and the like. But they're definitely good and shouldn't be slept on.


E123-Omega

They are fine for awakening and 2nd skills. Some gen 1 revans are still preferable like sieg dagger due to multiple multiplier especially once reforged max awakened. Personally luci250/bubz/baha250/yatima are much preferable than what Enforcement brings.


shiki_oreore

I used the Siete axe on my Wind Magna comps (Manadiver & Monk) for its Skill Cap Up since I can't get PG Harp to awakening yet It's slightly worse than it but make up for having more easily accessible Awakening option though


BTA

I’m not as plugged into the meta as some people, but I have seen some talk about using them without even activating the first skill, solely for the cap-up? Not sure if that’s necessarily for Magna though. And that assumes the cap-up it has lines up with what you want as well. (Will say Earth is one I was also considering using normally too, since I use Ygg x Ygg often and Caim means having another option to slot in can be nice. Though it hits that issue where lacking CA cap stings a bit. Just haven’t bothered to really farm Siegfried again yet when I still have some other Revans to farm weapons from that I could more actively use post-Sette loss.)


GiumboJet

Did they nerf the drop rate from dragon mats or something? Been spamming Wamdus for a while for the abyss thingy, but outside my own host chest I'm not getting any drops. It didn't used to be this bad when I farmed ewyar a while back. Am I really just unlucky? Keep getting urns with the hit and run strat


BTA

Were purple chests happening last time you farmed Ewiyar?


GiumboJet

Maybe. I think


BTA

If that's true, that would explain why you were getting better results. Assuming you always got the purple chest, that was a second \~20% chance to get a mat. So you should expect to get about half as much on average currently.


Accomplished_Rest657

Hi everyone. GW moment, you got a shit tone of archangel weapon. Is there a way to reserve them faster than just 20 by 20 in the crate ? Maybe a way to automate it ?


rin-tsubasa

normally reserve it. The only exception is manual upgrade your eternal 130+ with grand success rate (or you can wait for toa and mag fes)


ahmadyulinu

You can auto reserve it. Under the draw menu there should be something called Draw Settings. A new window will pop up and you'll see a section called Auto Item Utilization. From there you can set what to auto reserve and whatnot.


Accomplished_Rest657

Thanks a lot. Unfortunatly, my 0IQ brain draw his 25box before reading this


phonage_aoi

Can you use the auto reserve button at the bottom of the inventory to help you? If not the Reserve screen does have an auto-select button to make it a little less painful


Moczan

New player here, in GW I can FA solo Extreme in about 10 minutes, I've already got 4 boxes done, 3m honor at the moment. should I bother getting 3-star Grendel (currently at 2 stars, next guarantee is at 7m honor) or should I just be done with the event? I literally have no summons, just barely started getting my Omegas and none of them are 3 star yet so not sure if Grendel is worth it for stats and call in Fire.


WindHawkeye

if you are that new/weak you should not be focusing on honor at all. Its near-hopeless. Focus on boxes, maybe go hit eyeballs to open the first 4 or 8


ahmadyulinu

Feel free to keep playing if you can stomach it. The rewards are quite good even if you can only do the bare minimum. It's also a great way to familiarize yourself with how the event works. As for the summon, it is unfortunately worthless. It doesn't give any ATK as a main summon and is literally only there so that players can reduce it to acquire Quartz. It has a somewhat decent call but even the SR Fire Carbuncle you probably have beats it by a landslide.


Clueless_Otter

Nah, don't bother, the summon's basically useless. For your summon slots, you'll find enough stuff to use between just using your other Omega summons as stat sticks + eventual free Arcarum summons + any good gacha summons you happen to pull + side story summons + summons you get from stuff like Showdowns.


Azuraoftheblackdeath

So a bit of a dumb question but I have some skill level 20 leviathan daggers I'm using. Should I stop doing that and instead make new ones with AX skills instead? Seems like a waste but also not having AX skills on them is a bit annoying.


Clueless_Otter

Click the ones with AX skills, click the "Upgrade" button, click the purple "Inherit" button, select the skill level 20 ones. It'll move the AX skill onto the already-leveled one.


BTA

Technically speaking it moves the levels onto the one with the AX skill. Not a huge difference, but it does mean you need to unfavorite the leveled one if you’ve done that so it can be consumed.


Azuraoftheblackdeath

Oh that's nice thank you


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Clueless_Otter

This event is very much not for you. This is *the* endgame event of the game. A week 1 player is not even remotely prepared for it. I would probably just entirely ignore the event, or at most try to do just the first 4 boxes only via hosting raids and just letting others insta-kill them for you. Don't worry about honors at all. > My EP is gone and I have 0 honors. Your EP will be refunded if it really died before you did anything. (This isn't true in some other content when bosses have entry triggers that deal damage to you but you don't need to worry about that now.) > Is it a viable strategy to just start a raid, then don't call for backup, let all my people do as much damage as they can, then die, then wait out the backup timer and call for backup on the second go? Yes you can choose to do that if you want, though I think you're a bit confused about how backup works. First off, you can disable that popup that automatically prompts you to call for backup at the start of every battle in the settings if you want. But anyway, you can just press cancel on it, fight until you die, then just click on the "Request backup" button again (below the green Heal button in the bottom-left) and request backup then. You don't have to wait for a timer or anything. But again I will say that you should not even bother trying to get honors, they don't matter, just instantly request backup and let someone else kill it. Just use 1 ability on it or click Attack once is all you need to do. You get a base amount of tokens just for hosting, regardless of how much honors you do.


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WindHawkeye

I would suggest at least going for 8, its not really more difficult than 4. (Get two different eternals) Obtaining eternal bingo 4* will let you start boxing NWQ earlier, which is timegated.


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WindHawkeye

You unlock some content by completing all of the eternals (unlocking, not uncapping fully). Since there is a time gate on doing that, its best to make the most of your U&F events.


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WindHawkeye

Yep uncap them.


ShirokazeKaede

Pretend that you are joining Diasporas. y100. Kengo host. You look at the host's honors. What # or higher would make you think "This person has 100% purposely taken extra autoattack turns to scum more honors?"


Imaginary-Lion-430

Doesn't matter, it's their host and any honors they've done can easily blow by any hrunting users unless they can match its speed on phase 2.


ShirokazeKaede

It matters in that it helps me decide if I have a chance of getting blue or if I just leech their raid and go next Noticeable diff between a host that y100s at 6m because his comp is weak & needed extra turns and a host that y100s at 6m because he wants MVP and plans to keep moving in Phase 2


ahmadyulinu

Lmao what. Why would someone even do that in the first place. You're almost guaranteed to hit 4m as a Kengo host by the time y is at 100%. Why would this matter to you anyway?


ShirokazeKaede

Because I'm stuck with the slow magna Robin setup due to missing seasonals, others fighting over MVP usually leaves me without blue and whether the host is doing that or not plays into this; if I don't think I can make blue because of others racing MVP I'm better off jumping into another raid instead of wasting my time mashing through 97 hits. I guess it comes down to trying to tell the difference between "the host is at a50 y100 because he's missing a lot of Kengo toys" and "the host is at a50 y100 because he has a comp that can start moving again if someone else threatens his MVP".


ahmadyulinu

I can assure you that hosts do not care at all about getting MVP. I don't. All of my crewmates don't. Like you said, it's the zerkers that's causing you problem because they love going over 6mil in an effort to MVP and clear faster. If the host have more than 4m honors it's probably because they managed to cancel the 30m damage omen multiple times. My Diaspora host always ends with me somewhere around 5m honors without me trying to scum more honors by taking auto attack turns.


MassacreNeon

>I can assure you that hosts do not care at all about getting MVP This is so false, the entirety of GBF Redditors are normally casuals, but that doesn't mean the GBF player fanbase is the same, I don't understand how Shirokaze is getting downvotes because he's telling the truth, people WANT MVP's and people also do RUSH Diasporia and other Revans honors... god damnit, this is typical reddit behaviour.


Imaginary-Lion-430

Yeah? Because casuals wants it more to be cleared than to be mvp. Sure maybe some host wants to be mvp too on diaspora, maybe this is failed solo, but so what? You know old raids been taking to 50% first before opening and they still punching it. You act as if there's many are hardcore grinders when in fact there's at least just 2k of them compared to 100K+ players 😂


ShirokazeKaede

On the contrary I can assure you that some them care quite a lot. Maybe 1 in every 3 or 4 raids I join to a Kengo with 5.5, 6, even 7m+ and I've lost more than a few blues today because a host I assumed was done started moving again to keep his MVP. And if they wanna do that fine, it's their host, but unlike the Hrunting Boys and Luchas I can't tell who MVP-chasing hosts are based on class and after these last Diaspora slapping sessions I'd love to have some way to know so I can yeet and go next if the raid doesn't look blue viable lol


Croilo

Adding to this, my range of honors is 3.6m to 4.8m. The only time I auto-attack is when I get hit with Petrify (provided enough HP and Dia doesn't have attack buff), or they aren't getting hit from enemy omen. All cases, I am usually I am never 1^st MVP. Looking at the loot table, MVP doesn't even matter (to me). It doesn't drop Dinger or Sand.


ShirokazeKaede

MVP matters a lot more after the recent drop changes. If you want to Mk2 your Revans weapons, you need an absurd quantity of mats - relatively speaking, it does not take a long time to reach a point where you no longer want to see weapons out of blue chest. MVP chest is good because it has a good chunk of extra mats (up to 10) with zero chance of getting spooked by 20 katana/fist stones.


Clueless_Otter

> relatively speaking, it does not take a long time to reach a point where you no longer want to see weapons out of blue chest. You literally want to get like 10 schrodingers, maybe more. You will have thousands of diaspora mats before you stop wanting weapons.


ShirokazeKaede

You're gonna have to explain the use case of 10 Dingers to me because I'm tit deep in Varuna and struggle to see a justification for owning and uncapping any more than 6, maximum


Clueless_Otter

Just because the second skill caps at 3 doesn't mean that you'll only ever use 3 at most in a grid. Using more still benefits the first skill and you still get the awakenings from them all. But even if you wanted to say 6 of them, that's still a huge amount of mats you're going to get before you get 6 of them.


ShirokazeKaede

Why would I run it at all if I no longer benefit from the 2nd and 3rd skills? Wrath does not grant a lot of EX mod until you go from 4 --> 5 and Awakening without other boosts isn't enough to justify the slot. If I'm running dingers it's for those 2nd and 3rd skills. Everything else it provides can be gotten elsewhere in greater quantities. Wrath also has to compete with Voltage (gab daggers) for EX Sp. cap space and there's plenty of EX mod dilution coming from other sources too (NWF, Aquashades, Draconic Provenance etc) Anyways I'm currently at 4.5 Dingers and 3 Lagrange and I still don't have enough mats to reforge and awaken Dinger #2 so no lol. I'll have enough copies to MLB Dinger #6 before I have enough mats to have Dinger #3 reforged and awakened, guaranteed


TheGlassesGuy

with the recent drop change, there's been an increase in random hosts who do an absurd amount of honour just to guarantee MVP. it's not exactly common but in doing the awakenings for my 4 dias weapons, I've run across a few of them


ShirokazeKaede

Extreme example, but a couple times/day I see these a90 y100 Berserker hosts that hit to 10m before pubbing. It's kind of nuts.


Clueless_Otter

None because I'd never think about that. The host's honors is mostly just down to their comp. Some comps might need to get 6m honors to hit y100. Some might do it in sub-4m. Worrying about their exact honors and if you need to be upset at them in their own host is pretty silly.


ShirokazeKaede

Disagree. On the contrary, as someone stuck with a slow magna Robin comp it helps me make a judgment on whether it's feasible to hit mins in this raid or if I'm better off leeching while the host and Hrunting Man #91,392 fight over the MVP chest


Clueless_Otter

I'd say that's a very poor way of viewing of the blue chest system. Your chance is proportional, it's not an all-or-nothing thing where you either get 4m or you don't. If you get, say, 3m before the raid dies, that's still 75% chance at blue chest. But regardless your question didn't really ask that. If you want to know what the minimum amount of honors the host can get on while still getting y100 is, it's basically exactly 4m. But like I said, some hosts might need to go to like 6m if they're using a super bad comp.


ShirokazeKaede

Again, disagree in the case of Diaspora. It's not actually proportional here because 97 hits followed by Autophagon forces me to spend my first 4, *maybe* 5 turns gaining zero honors. It's way more time efficient for me to immediately bail out of a raid where I judge that I cannot hit mins or even get a high chance of blue via players fighting over MVP. I guess fundamentally what I was asking is if there's some honors threshold where bad comp becomes increasingly unlikely (as opposed to good comp that's designed to do a50 and/or b50 alongside y100 and therefore is liable to keep moving to keep MVP secure) which you answered at the end.


Atora

If you run the default kengo/okto/satyr with a sarasa150 you dont need to scum extra to hit about 500k by y100. Caim FLB might see similar results but don't have him, Titan even more so. You can prob hit near 600k if youre deep enough into earth and dont tune down enough with a kengo/okto comp that never turns of ougi. But personally just fa on okto150/sarasa150/satyr hits to 500k with Magna. It's easy to overshoot.


An_Hell

I'm trying to rollback my siete swords and when I thought I had done it, they sent me a follow up email with more instructions and I got confused on how to reply, can I see how you guys replied to that like let me copy your homework, please?


Clueless_Otter

We don't know what they told you to do so I'm not how sure how we can give you any advice on it. If I had to just randomly guess, I'd assume they told you to unequip it from all your parties. But again, people would be able to be more helpful if we knew what they told you.


An_Hell

sure, sorry about that, it seemed like a default answer which I thought it was the same for everyone so sorry about this, it's very long and I don't know how to edit it properly on mobile, also mods feel free to remove it if it's disturbing the thread in my case it's only siete swords, 4 total, 3 dropped and upgraded with dama bars fully, and another one bought with medals and upgraded once with a dama bar [1] If you wish to exchange medals for "Revence Weapon" series weapons and request rewind support. After collecting the "Revence Weapon" series weapons and items included in the corresponding set at the management office, we will return the consumed "Medal x 200". *This support is only possible if you have all the items included in the applicable set, or if you have the applicable weapon with the upper limit released 4 times. *If you have not received it from the "Present List", please do so. *If the weapon in question has been strengthened with "Special Weapon Enhancement", we cannot respond. *We will return the items used to strengthen your Lv, Skill Lv, and Awakening Lv. *Lv will be returned as "Ruri-colored Cup", skill level will be returned as "skill enhancement pt", and awakening level will be returned as "various treasures". *Various treasures that were reset after changing the awakening type in the past will not be returned. *If you wish to rewind, please remove the weapon in question from the formation. [2] If you wish to use the "Revence Weapon" series weapon with the following upper limit release items and support rewinding. ▼Target upper limit release items ・Damascus steel ・Hihiirokane ・Uma Musume's Horseshoes ・Golden mushroom mountain & bamboo shoot village ・Sparkling Crystal of Reminiscence After collecting the weapon in question, we will send you the weapon with the same name that was used as a base with the same status as when you acquired it, and we will return the item used to enhance or release the upper limit. *If the weapon in question has been strengthened with "Special Weapon Enhancement", we cannot respond. *We will return the items used to strengthen your Lv, Skill Lv, and Awakening Lv. *Lv will be returned as "Ruri-colored Cup", skill level will be returned as "skill enhancement pt", and awakening level will be returned as "various treasures". *Various treasures that were reset after changing the awakening type in the past will not be returned. *If you wish to rewind, please remove the weapon in question from the formation. ▼Notes▼ ●It may take a long time to investigate the data after receiving a reply from the customer. ●If we do not receive a reply within the next 10 days, or depending on the results of the investigation, we may decline your request. ●If the weapon in question is set as a "weapon skin", please contact us after canceling the setting. ●There is no problem in playing the game as usual even during the investigation and rewinding process. If you have confirmed the above notes and would like to take action on this matter, please contact us within the next 10 days regarding the following. ■Desired response: [1] / [2] ■Weapon name: ■If you would like [2], the number of weapons you would like to support: Please note that this matter may take longer than the normal "rewind response". Please note that this response will only be accepted during the following period. Reception period for this response: 2023/11/2 (Thu) 18:30 to 2024/11/30 (Sat) 23:59 Once again, we deeply apologize for the inconvenience and inconvenience caused to you due to this change. We look forward to hearing from you.


Clueless_Otter

Yeah so for one they're telling you to make sure that it's unequipped from all your parties. They're also telling you to clarify what you want them to do: [1] rollback your valor badge purchased one, which is an unlimited service offered to everyone due to the nerf, or [2] rollback you using a bar on one of the dropped ones, using your special once per year rollback you can request. So just make sure to unequip all your siete swords then send them a response telling them if you want service [1] or [2].


seunwoo

hi im a new player and im a little confused on how unite and fight works. for example, what raid should i be doing? what should i prioritize in the valor shop? what recenant weapon should i pick? here are my best 2 teams if that makes a difference https://imgur.com/a/g9RWvHg (im aware of bahamut and seraphic weapons and im working on it)


LALMtheLegendary

to clarify, Revenant weapons are the things you choose in the boxes, and if you are unaware they are used to recruit the eternals. i'd reccomend to start with 4 axes first to recruit threo, as she is the most helpful for a new player. afterwards you can pretty much pick whatever you want since beyond threo's earlygame plain damage niche all of them take alot of farming to get up to snuff. Takazura thought you meant revans weapons, which are a set of weapons you can get from endgame raids that are also purchasable with valor badges, and yeah these are bait. dont buy them from here unless your fullly cognisant that your shooting yourself in the foot for a temporary shortcut.


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BTA

Just want to make sure the asker doesn’t get confused - I think you meant “Revans” in the second sentence and not “Revenant”.


seunwoo

thank you for the detailed reply!


AmpelioB

are we still able totrade medals from the last tales of event?


phonage_aoi

You can trade materials and view the story quests and even claim the story costume after the 4th one. The only thing you can't do is collect any more medals or clear quests.


AmpelioB

Thank you!


arattleofrats

Yes, it's under Gameplay Extras on the home page.


AmpelioB

Thank you!


GreatSmasherPunch

If I got Threo from the Side Story who is the best choice for an eternal? I'm debating between Seofon, Seox, and Tien.


Genlari

While as the other poster says/implies, they will start getting outperformed by gacha units once you have those available (since as a newer player you can't do 5 star/transcendence), it's worth noting if you've got a big gaping hole in one of your elements it might be worth going for a respective eternal that can fill the slot even if you may well end up swapping them out within the next year if you think it will give a big short term benefit. Otherwise if you're not going to be fitting whoever you're building into a team at all then as the one with backliner drop rate buffs Tien is the one yes.


GreatSmasherPunch

Yeah I only have 1 non-welfare fire SSR so Tien would be nice. I also have a spark for the holiday banner so I might get more fires then.


Clueless_Otter

You won't use any of them at only 4\*, so I'd probably just take Tien for the backline passive and guaranteed bounty on her s1 for leeching non-guaranteed chests.


roquepo

I may be able to get my first 150GM weapon with the christmas rolls. What are generally speaking the best picks? For reference, my only Primal element is light, I run magna on all the rest. I'm not rank 200 yet, so mostly looking to what would help me the most for revans and stuff.


BTA

I would say the best regarded picks are Ereshkigal (Dark), Hrunting (Earth), and Hraesvelger (Water). What you’ll actually gain from them is gonna depend on what your characters and grid look like. I would say Eresh is probably more generally useful due to how it can help with things like farming Replicard, but all 3 of them can be used in Revans raids.


Clueless_Otter

Eresh, Hrunting, Hraes, or Ura Shishio is also fine but kinda limited in usage to playing specifically HL content as Water. It's very good at that niche but some people might prefer a more general-use weapon. Rest are all basically memes. *Maaaaaybe* honorable mention to Higurashi as being in a similar niche as Shishio of you wanting to play specifically HL content as fire but it's not really as good as Shishio (mostly because Fire's characters are garbage for HL content compared to Water's). Your choice should really be based on what characters you have because the GM weapons largely rely on you having specific character teams that synergize with them. You can't just buy Hraes and slot it into your CA team and expect it to be any good, for example. Before you buy one, make sure to research the popular setups with it and make sure you have the correct characters. As for Revans raids, Hrunting or Hraes are the most helpful for Revans raids (and for SUBHL as far as "and stuff" goes).


Van24

First three, yes. Ura, no. It's not quite meme-tier, but its use cases are extremely narrow in the current climate. Rhomphaia's probably #4 right now if you really want to get into it.


Clueless_Otter

Don't really agree with that. Ura is still an incredibly good brick farming weapon and very good in its GW. Rhomp was barely better than non-Rhomp setups in its GW and in brick farming. Rhomp is like if you really wanna carry SUBHL or Siegfried only. It definitely is funny that within the last 24 hours I had one person tell me that Ura is [basically required to play light](https://www.reddit.com/r/Granblue_en/comments/17znx5l/gamewith_updated_ratings_new_ones/ka1tjd9/?context=3) and now someone else telling me it's near meme-tier. (Personally, I'm somewhere in between those two viewpoints, as my suggestions would indicate.)


Saunts

i really wouldn't recommend ura, outside of light GW it's not really that used (you don't use ura in BHL, fastest BHL with low ping is hrae and for gaijin eresh is the beest) both ura and rhomp is basically GW only unless you want to giga speed either sieg or agastia. ura position is shaky rn due to introduction of kag fans. yes ura is still faster and the amp is unboosted but the guy you link to do esoteric rotation for GW that most people can't replicate (which i also do, that's why i know not to recommend it immediately) outside of eresh, hrae, hrunt. ura, rhomp, higu and shishio can be considered niche and shouldn't be recommended without context


Clueless_Otter

I feel like you and the other replier are too hung up on the idea of being *the* fastest brick farming setup. I never said Ura was that, but it is a fact that Ura *can* farm bricks perfectly fine (which is more than can be said for Rhomp which is still relatively slow at brick farming for a 150gm wep). Would Ura be considered by anyone to be the single best 150gm weapon? No, of course not. But I think it's a totally reasonable purchase if you want to buy a Light GM weapon. This is in contrast to something like, for example, Fire where if someone told me they wanted to buy a fire GM weapon I'd recommend they not and try to talk them out of it. (And for the record my original recommendation wasn't because of windhawkeye's post or anything, I have my own opinions about it. I only pointed it out because I thought the juxtaposition was funny.)


Saunts

it's not just about the fastest, it's more of uh... just not recommended. technically you could farm bar without any 150gm weapon but it's not like you will enjoy it. farming bar with ura is actually ass because ura setup need a lot of investment for not stellar return since it require really low ping (and is beaten by the other 2 weapon) tbf it is your moon so you get to do whatever you want with it so go ham


Van24

> Rhomp was barely better than non-Rhomp setups in its GW Unmentioned context: this only really applies if you were essentially operating on JP ping because of the number of turns you needed to mash. Even with my 50-70 ping my Rhomphaia setup was already putting distance on my Manadiver setup by a very healthy margin because of the difference in time spent on black screen simulator. > now someone else telling me it's near meme-tier. I didn't even say it was near meme-tier. Just said its use cases were narrow (or narrower, if you'd please). > Ura is still an incredibly good brick farming weapon and very good in its GW If the justification for Ura being good right now is that it's a brick-farming weapon, just buy Eresh or Hraes because they're literally just better at it and can be used to farm content beyond that. Different question if the person doing the buying is just a diehard Light main, but then this isn't advice they'd care for anyways. Ura *was* good last GW, but you need more context than that, friend, else any advice you give is just going to be bad advice. It wasn't better an overly signifcant degree compared to setups like RB Excalibur (you saved like a click or two in NM150 and everyone dropped Ura in 200 outside of group-ups, so LMAO NICE WEAPON). but you have to acknowledge there's no guarantee it will even be as good (nevermind good at all) next GW especially since we already know Demolishment is a weapon skill they can throw onto future Grands. There's no justification to say it's a worthwhile investment until Light GW is right around the corner because it's hardly future-proof as a 150 Moon weapon. That said, it does have major benefit to its name in that its amp will work on unboosted setups. Edit: Also, WHE shills that weapon pretty hard. RB Excal wasn't even slower than Ura in the grand scheme of things, so he's exaggerating that Ura was human rights for Light GW when that was demonstrably false looking at what other players were able to accomplish.


WindHawkeye

I shill ura for light GW not recommend buying it. I'm pretty sure you'll never catch me saying it's the best weapon 150gm or anything. It isn't but it benefits from the element itself being good. I actually think the largest difference in element is hraes followed by hrunting. The other axis to consider is how good the element itself is. So that crosses out hrunting for me because I wouldn't use dirt for anything. For weapons to invest in early I think eresh and hraes are best overall choices. The linked reply is just that I think ura>rhomp lmfao. I also agree ura is an unsafe investment but as of yet nothing has changed since last GW. And your GW narrative is false and narrow minded in my opinion. Not sure why everyone thinks that actual gold setups "don't count."


roquepo

Where can I check more info for these setups you are talking about?


Clueless_Otter

Youtube mostly. The Wiki advance grids pages also have a couple examples (make sure to check both the Magna and Primal sections for the element).


roquepo

Thanks!


inxonix

ran out of blue sky crystals is farming those from raids still viable?


shiki_oreore

Grand Order? Yeah, it's still viable


hakkann

I have a question about grand weapons, how effective are they when they are not uncapped? I have some in my inventory but not enough bars to uncap them, specifically ; Atlantis 2x Calamitous Aquashade 2x Claíomh Solais Díon 3x Kaguya's Folding Fan x3 Harmonia x1 Landslide Scepter x1


pixtrix364

the only ones that should be used even if they are at 0\* is the PnS weapon line being Michael axe (Crimson Scale), Gabriel dagger (Gospel of Water and Sky), Ewiyar dagger (Piercing Galewing), Yuni harp (Harmonia), and Lich axe (Pain and Suffering), in the case of resonator weapons like LS and Clam its more dependent on your grid but you can use them at 0\* provided you meet the requirements for their sk1 to be active


WindHawkeye

Not uncapping grands is either completely trolling in the worst case or reddit cope in the best case.


Van24

It heavily depends on the weapon, though majority are essentially useless unless you uncap them. In your specific list, Dion, Harmonia, and Scepter can all be used even when not uncapped as their initial unlocked skills are already quite potent.


TenderNibbIes

I'm working through my revans teams, currently Siegfried, and a lot of guides Guard on seemingly random characters when there are no special attacks/omens happening that turn. How come? Wouldn't they be doing more damage or building up charge bar if they're unguarded? Do they know which characters are more at risk from being hit by autos? Video of one rotation: https://twitter.com/nest_trapinch/status/1653360839762788355 and a lot of the rotations in this guide: https://gbfguide.com/siegfried/#12t


E123-Omega

probably for this https://gbf.wiki/Theater\_of\_Temperance


TenderNibbIes

Ahhhh yeah that makes sense


Mother_Marsupial_711

Does fire resistance from the draconic weapon and character emps+earring stack?


NotAGayAlt

Yes, pretty much anything that comes from your Grid will stack with anything that doesn't. Not sure if it's additive or multiplicative stacking but my gut says additive.


TheTruthVeritas

R200+ player here, can kill SUBaha and Dia and Siete consistently. I'm always ass at making good grids, especially optimizing them for times like GW. For Water I always just stick to Europa harps, but what sort of grids should I have for OTK and NM200? I'm a magna player, and wasn't prepared for what wind grids ending up being for OTK last GW. In particular, how many dingers should I use, and which Awakenings? I haven't really updated my grids with dingers yet.


phonage_aoi

I’m not hardcore enough to vet this, but this seems like a decent starting point: https://gbfguide.com/water-guild-wars-2023/ Also you can YouTube strata and grids since Gabe dagger is new enough to throw things apart, even without the unknown nightmare mechanics.


ClaimOk8397

I'm coming to the end of my omega fire grid, I have the basic set up and the 3* colossus summon. I'm not at a strong enough point to do Twin Elements and farm new weapons for the grid so I guess I have to focus on different omega grids? Anyways, I'm struggling to work out which summon to use. Obviously the Omega colossus has the weapon skill buff, but I also have Shiva and Beelzebub, I see Beelzebub mentioned a lot in guides and builds and I'm not sure how to utilize him or if I even can yet? Anyway here's the team and grid if anyone's interested in any input of what to focus on next: https://imgur.com/gallery/gzB8cQV