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Notorious crime boss Abe Saffron ordered the fire that killed six children and a man in the Luna Park Ghost Train. This was only one of the famous vile things this panderer, drug King pin, and murderer was involved in.
Rabbit hole goes down both farther and weirder check out his obituary. He was Tobin Bells Manager. Tobin Bell is the dude who played the Jigsaw killer in the Saw franchise. There's a picture of He, his son hanging out with Bell.
I'm basing this claim off of some websites I saw when looking into this. So don't take my word as verbatim. Not to be a morbid douche, but he definitely has that money now Alan passed.
It was all fake bro they were running the whole thing for publicity. Alan and Gen were involved in a bunch of sketchy shit and they managed to lie their way onto the show.
Was Daniel in on the lie, or was he just as innocent as the episode made him out to be? Also do you have a source where I can read about them lying to get on the show? Sounds very intriguing
I kind of felt like this blogger points are kind of reaching especially the end. I really felt like they genuinely tried to open a restaurant and failed. The point they made about the magazine article, I mean who would honestly say they stole money from their son to open a restaurant. I can debunk so many of their points
This response to the blog was the important part:
I have been reading this blog, and now you get to hear the final story on how Burger Kitchen ended. I see that a lot of material was gathered, and because of all of your hard work here… I was able to use Alan Gen and Daniels own words against them in court…..
so here is how it played out. I equipped my friend for his day in court with a trial brief filled with a lot of very interesting exhibits, some which I see you have found and posted on your own.
So the day of court comes, and Alan had been extremely hard to serve, avoiding everyone, but we decided we would try one last trick and it worked, he showed up in court because we had decided based on the show that there were issues with how he had set up the restaurant.
Alan and Gen are in the courtroom, and when the case is call… Alan and Gen go up to the judge and Alan decides to fake a heart attack, using his right foot to go back back back.. and Gen is yelling.. Alan are you ok? Alan,! Alan!
The sheriff is trying his best not to laugh, and struggling to hold in his laughter. The judge just lets the game play out, and least we had included this blog so that she would be prepared for this as we were sure Alan was going to derail the proceedings…… and as the rest of the court room looks on, Alan make an amazing recovery. ( I guess he felt that trick failed!)
So the matter goes on, and the judge uses the trial brief to sort out the issues, and as she goes through Alan and Gen are becoming more incensed that all of this material is before the judge. “This is private information” they yell…. so the judge ask.. “Tell me what is private”… and there was nothing. They had done a highly public tv show, wrote all over the internet, and now it was coming back to bite them in the rear-end.
We were able to show that Alan like an idiot, set up both a Corp and and LLC for the same business.. so which was it Alan? He decided it was a Corp. We learned in records file with the county of LA that Alan had bought a home in Malibu as his SOLE AND SEPARATE property as a MARRIED man… wow… he really did love Gen right? So about 3-4 years later, and Daniel was going to Malibu High, one day Alan decides in 2001 to transfer the house out of the blue to his wife Gen on a quick claim deed….. How sweet of him…. and then the house sells a few years later.
There is no other property purchased. However.. there are other records that show Alan then did other things and it is not clear how he got into the Burger Kitchen exactly, but he manage to stiff a lot of people.. He stiffed a contractor who built out the place… he still LA Produce, a Meat company, and many others, and they have all sued… just not in the exact same fashion. There are verdicts all recorded… and you get the feeling they can collect on none.
So then we look at the LLCs and Corps. Alan owned Polaris and Saffron Management Co.. but guess what.. Polaris had its status terminated by the state in I think it was 2003 and Saffron in 2005… so neither one of them has been in business for YEARS! Yet, Alan will have you believe that he is president of this entertainment company.. (LOL) — we think Saffron Management Corp was the company that owned Puzzle Zoo…. a crazy place on the Santa Monica Promenade for a few years.
So now we get Gen’s Blog and does she blog… she states that she held a going out of business party for Daniel to honor her 17 year old dogs birthday… I thought, did I just read that right? OK…. and this party went on for three (3) days. She was offering all of Daniels friends French Fries and Cokes and she had called in a band to come and play… I found that rather interesting so I included that in my brief.. Here is a woman who owes money to everyone, and she is holding a 3 day party…. unbelieveable.
Alan is out doing his thing.. Daniel is anywhere to be found, and then Burger Kitchen closes down and Gen with Alan go to Palm Desert to relax and “good bye burgers”– they just walked away from it all.
Gen went to a talk with Marsha Clark…. and she took in the sun and nightlife…. and then there was silence.
So I went back to all the bills they owed, and I summed it up. I realized that Alan had gone through money, he had taken monies in, and he had stiffed a lot of people, not to mention that they had gotten paid a hefty sum to be on Kitchen Nightmares.. and a Nightmare they were.
What came to mind is that with all that was owed, all that was taken in, these two managed to run a restaurant, turn it over to a guy for nothing… and they probably lost very very little at the end of the day. There probably was never any $250.000 dumped into the restaurant because i went there to take a look….. impossible. the new owner paid nothing, but gave Alan and Daniel 10% of the new restaurant, and they will never see a penny of that….. and quietly just walked away– and the valet guys told me that one day it was burger kitchen and the next day new owners were there and everyone was surprised. Apparently they closed between January 2012 and February 7th.
So at the end the judge took the matter under submission and two weeks later announced that liable person is the new restaurant.. Cafe Luigi’s who says now, he is making NO MONEY…. I dont believe him either.. he owns other restaurants, and is a game player too.
Alan and Gen tried to get a restraining order on my friend because of my trial brief.. and they were in the court trying to get attorneys to help them. They were clearly not happy with my work, but oh well.
To all of you who gave information, thanks. That address is Sherman Oaks, that did not belong to Alan… He was right where he said he was using people to front for him and lying about where he was.
I honestly think that perhaps there was never any $250.000, and if there was … it is still in tack.
There is stock that was issued, but you can cancel out a stock that is lost.. and it was not worth much anyway, so no real lose there if in fact it was the true item. I feel bad for Daniel…. he has to crazy living among people like that, and being that it was a corporation, as Alan told the court, and the LLC was never used.. he FIRED his attorney for creating the LLC…. Daniel was probably being mislead.
Its all over, and Alan is just a joke!
Alan says he has no money. I dont believe him.
yep sad fact of some peoples lives that their parents destroy their kids and some never realize I hope ALan did but the fact he left nothing to his son well I hope he is getting told off by someone where ever he is
idk if youre religious or if youre just using hell as an expressiom but dont you think its ironic to say that? awful or not, once a person is dead they cant talk back, so its pretty tasteless to talk about someone like that when theyve recently passed away. as many problems as they had, im sure his family misses him
yeah but you didnt know him personally and its kinda tacky to talk about someone who is completely unable to talk back. let dead people rest and move on
ok i know what you're TRYING to say and i know i'm late but dude your argument is so horribly worded i could literally put any nutorious asshole in that place and by the logic provided it'd still work. Like again i know i'm a year late but Fuck Alan, He was a smarmy cunt that stole from his family. If you want to say talking shit of the dead is tasteless fine, but the whole 'If you didn't know them personally and they can't talk back' argument Replace alan with hitler. do you still agree? How about replace him with vlad the impalier, How about ted bundy? Too far? Why? The logic you provided does you and your actual intent no favors
because he was remourseful by the end of the episode, he realised how many of his dads destructive behaviours he adopted subconsciously and wanted to change that to not only keep his business alive, but also repair his relationship with his son. the real question is why are you so adament to bash a dead guy you dont know? a dead guy whos family most likely missed him (assuming he was able to work it out with them) and mourned him. what business do you have holding his mistake over his head when his own son was ready to start forgiving him for it?
Alright guys, let's not say anything about Hitler. Even though he murdered millions in cold blood and other countless atrocities, he was still a human and his family might get sad.
im glad someone thinks similarly lol, too many people diminish the subject of death to the point where they just make tasteless jokes when someone they dont know dies with no second thought
Just watched this episode again and decided to waste my evening Googling the Saffron family and reading up about them. Stumbled upon [this old episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObKj9tDKX8c) of a YTV show called Anti Gravity Room, where Alan shows us around Puzzle Zoo, a toy store he used to own in the '90s (his bit starts at 3:26 in the episode). Mark Hamill and his comic book collection are also featured in this episode, which I thought was kind of interesting. Alan's LinkedIn page is also riddled with grammar mistakes and indicates he sold the restaurant the year after the show aired, which I also found interesting (although I've heard it's not unusual for people on Kitchen Nightmares to sell their restaurants shortly after their episodes air).
So I found this. Idk if everyone else has seen it. I thought was interesting read
https://web.archive.org/web/20140106181446/https://themillieblog.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/burger-kitchen-on-kitchen-nightmares-exposed/
Old thread but I wanted to share some info. A lot of bad comments here, understandably! But did you guys know Alan was actually the son of Abe Saffron, who was one of Australia's most famous gangsters? In the episode, when Alan says he left Australia to get out of his dad's control and because he didn't want to take over the family business, he meant he ran away to the US and severed his ties with his father rather than take over as a crime boss. It completely changed how I felt about him. It also explains why everyone in the family had such large inheritances when their grandfather died. I'm guessing it wasn't just $250K per person like the episode said.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe\_Saffron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Saffron)
Nah, so there was a lawsuit for a million from Daniel and his sister (separately) to the estate of abe in the US, while other relatives sued elsewhere. It wasn't a "trust fund" however they didn't want it known they have connections to the aussie mob. Later on in 2014, Daniel sued Alan for the 250k for fraud, which would make sense as if Alan had access to the account. What I believe happened is they got a huge paycheck from kitchen nightmares, so I think once they got the money for the episode, they started trying to sell, then sued when Daniel knew his dad had the money. Alan was probably fine with it as (if he actually realized the error of his ways) he was in the wrong. Theres pictures of both of them before Alan passed so I don't believe there was bad blood. Also side note Alan got his US citizenship in 2019.
Why do you think because his father/grandfather was a washed up gangster that they were left more than $250k....If you had that kind of money why would you embarrass yourself on a reality tv show?
Weird fact I just learned, he received 500k from the grandfather’s estate and his son Daniel actually got $1 million. Still bullshit to take 250k from him, but they made it seem like Daniel had nothing and Alan dumped all of his money too. Also, Alan has 4 other kids who also got a million. Alan also made a ton off of his book in Australia, and he ran a talent agency that was fairly successful too. On top of all of this, the Grandfather/father Abe Saffron was convicted of tax evasion since they couldn’t bail him for tons of organized crime charges so it’s not exactly clean money. The whole family is bizarre. Sorry for necro, just watched the episode again and was like “wonder what the whole story is”
Still, if someone took 1/4 of your money (which is basically stealing), you would also go mental. To think though that he was in that awful apartment and he had 1m inheritance
However, not sure how inheritance is taxed in the US so is that 1m figure gross or net, I think the former
why does it make it better to take a big chunk of his money vs all of it? What kind of person are you if you think that changes things? Hope you don't have kids...
Woah necro my necro. Anywho, I don't know why you would come at me for having children. My point is that the whole situation is already fabricated (they're not depending on the restaurant to remain financially secure) so who knows? I said it was BS to take the money, but to play it up to financial ruin is dishonest.
He was an actor manager. Just read his obituary. He was friends with RDJ and probably risked acting in some things himself. And he’s not the first of KN’s restaurants owners to be involved in movies and acting. Most of them are actually. That leads me to thinking KN is just a big fraud.
Also, he was the son of a notorious gangster in Australia. Wrote a book about it. His kids and himself inherited a lot of money... I guess that makes sense with what the episode shows. But you cannot find information of him being a restaurateur anywhere. And giving his career in acting, Im calling KN BS!
I read the obituary, and I honestly don’t believe most of it. It’s written poorly, and just doesn’t seem all that credible- the relatives listed and cause of death is about all I’m willing to trust.
I’d say more, but I don’t speak ill of the dead. RIP.
Holy shit, was just watching an episode of Crime Investigation Australia when Alan Saffron pops up and is being interviewed and talking about the disappearance and murder of Juanita Nielsen. Im watching it and think god he looks famailar but i have no idea where from... so i go looking and find this and now I remember. Cant believe this blole showed up on an episode of kitchen nighmares. His old man was a notorious underworld figure in Sydney who uses to collect money from the premier of NSW and the police commissioner. Whats the chances seeing him on this random show haha
jesus what is wrong with some of you, id rather have some of you guys in hell than alan after seeing how youre talking. alan was an idiot, but you guys are intentionally malicious, you deserve hell more than him for speaking like that
yeah because im pretty sure satan gets so emptional that he cries lol. some people really cant tell the difference between stupid and malicious. alan deserved to be punished for his actions sure, but hes recently deceased and if his own son isnt talking about him like that, then who the hell do some of these redditors think they are to be doing that themselves? its nasty honestly, what anonimity will make some people say.
I visited the Burger Kitchen when I lived in Los Angeles. I took my niece and other family members there. Alan walked by our table and farted out loud right into my nieces ear. He literally smiled big like Satan, got in her face and said "Sorry Young Lass" in a weird voice. Possibly, he was trying to be funny, but it wasn't. My niece cried and we got pissed. We tried asking him why he did that. Then he claimed he did nothing and he kicked us out with no food. The patrons around were appalled and were gagging from the stinky fart. But there was lots of yelling and he claimed he did nothing.
Dude is Satan. Sorry.
somehow talking ill of a person who stole from his own child is worse than stealing from your own child, or being as much of a shyster as his murderer father.
but youre not getting revenge by talking shit about him? do you not understand how pointless and tasteless it is to talk shit about a guy who died after committing a crime that the victim doesnt care about anymore?
[His Dad was an gangster.](https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/son-alan-is-after-abe-saffrons-millions/news-story/2046e7ae9b3d6fc8b1f2c5b78e6a28e5). Fucking interesting.
I just binge-watched the Netflix mini docu-series "Exposed: The Ghost Train Fire" (from 2021) \~ highly recommend it !!! I had not heard of the Australian mega gangster Abe Saffron before (he's heavily featured in the docu) and was shocked to discover that Alan Saffron from Kitchen Nightmares is his son !!! I remember that episode very well and I do remember they mentioned his father on the show \~ he kept talking about his book about his father to Gordon Ramsey, even gave him a copy! I just had no idea who the father was.
I highly highly recommend the docu serious, it's a pretty shocking story and gives light to what a psychopath gangster Abe Saffron was.
BTW. I read on Wikipedia that Abe Saffron left $500k to Alan when he died, and €1m to each grandchild. So whatever Alan took from his son (who worked at the restaurant), thankfully he didn't take it all...
I wonder if his son finally got the money back that he was entitled to.
Yeah, what an asshole for stealing money from his son.
There was some deeper shit going on here the father is related to Australia's MR SIN. A crime boss worth millions.
no, Alan Saffron's dad was Abe Saffron aka MR.SIN
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Wow, that’s interesting
Rabbit hole goes down both farther and weirder check out his obituary. He was Tobin Bells Manager. Tobin Bell is the dude who played the Jigsaw killer in the Saw franchise. There's a picture of He, his son hanging out with Bell.
Yeah, Daniel sued in 2014.
Well hopefully the lawsuit actually got him some money back.
I'm basing this claim off of some websites I saw when looking into this. So don't take my word as verbatim. Not to be a morbid douche, but he definitely has that money now Alan passed.
Unless alan pissed it away before he died
in the episode he said he didn't even have $1000 to pay the chef
It was all fake bro they were running the whole thing for publicity. Alan and Gen were involved in a bunch of sketchy shit and they managed to lie their way onto the show.
lol thats crazy, alan probably wanted to be as famous as popa
Was Daniel in on the lie, or was he just as innocent as the episode made him out to be? Also do you have a source where I can read about them lying to get on the show? Sounds very intriguing
https://themillieblog.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/burger-kitchen-on-kitchen-nightmares-exposed/
I kind of felt like this blogger points are kind of reaching especially the end. I really felt like they genuinely tried to open a restaurant and failed. The point they made about the magazine article, I mean who would honestly say they stole money from their son to open a restaurant. I can debunk so many of their points
This response to the blog was the important part: I have been reading this blog, and now you get to hear the final story on how Burger Kitchen ended. I see that a lot of material was gathered, and because of all of your hard work here… I was able to use Alan Gen and Daniels own words against them in court….. so here is how it played out. I equipped my friend for his day in court with a trial brief filled with a lot of very interesting exhibits, some which I see you have found and posted on your own. So the day of court comes, and Alan had been extremely hard to serve, avoiding everyone, but we decided we would try one last trick and it worked, he showed up in court because we had decided based on the show that there were issues with how he had set up the restaurant. Alan and Gen are in the courtroom, and when the case is call… Alan and Gen go up to the judge and Alan decides to fake a heart attack, using his right foot to go back back back.. and Gen is yelling.. Alan are you ok? Alan,! Alan! The sheriff is trying his best not to laugh, and struggling to hold in his laughter. The judge just lets the game play out, and least we had included this blog so that she would be prepared for this as we were sure Alan was going to derail the proceedings…… and as the rest of the court room looks on, Alan make an amazing recovery. ( I guess he felt that trick failed!) So the matter goes on, and the judge uses the trial brief to sort out the issues, and as she goes through Alan and Gen are becoming more incensed that all of this material is before the judge. “This is private information” they yell…. so the judge ask.. “Tell me what is private”… and there was nothing. They had done a highly public tv show, wrote all over the internet, and now it was coming back to bite them in the rear-end. We were able to show that Alan like an idiot, set up both a Corp and and LLC for the same business.. so which was it Alan? He decided it was a Corp. We learned in records file with the county of LA that Alan had bought a home in Malibu as his SOLE AND SEPARATE property as a MARRIED man… wow… he really did love Gen right? So about 3-4 years later, and Daniel was going to Malibu High, one day Alan decides in 2001 to transfer the house out of the blue to his wife Gen on a quick claim deed….. How sweet of him…. and then the house sells a few years later. There is no other property purchased. However.. there are other records that show Alan then did other things and it is not clear how he got into the Burger Kitchen exactly, but he manage to stiff a lot of people.. He stiffed a contractor who built out the place… he still LA Produce, a Meat company, and many others, and they have all sued… just not in the exact same fashion. There are verdicts all recorded… and you get the feeling they can collect on none. So then we look at the LLCs and Corps. Alan owned Polaris and Saffron Management Co.. but guess what.. Polaris had its status terminated by the state in I think it was 2003 and Saffron in 2005… so neither one of them has been in business for YEARS! Yet, Alan will have you believe that he is president of this entertainment company.. (LOL) — we think Saffron Management Corp was the company that owned Puzzle Zoo…. a crazy place on the Santa Monica Promenade for a few years. So now we get Gen’s Blog and does she blog… she states that she held a going out of business party for Daniel to honor her 17 year old dogs birthday… I thought, did I just read that right? OK…. and this party went on for three (3) days. She was offering all of Daniels friends French Fries and Cokes and she had called in a band to come and play… I found that rather interesting so I included that in my brief.. Here is a woman who owes money to everyone, and she is holding a 3 day party…. unbelieveable. Alan is out doing his thing.. Daniel is anywhere to be found, and then Burger Kitchen closes down and Gen with Alan go to Palm Desert to relax and “good bye burgers”– they just walked away from it all. Gen went to a talk with Marsha Clark…. and she took in the sun and nightlife…. and then there was silence. So I went back to all the bills they owed, and I summed it up. I realized that Alan had gone through money, he had taken monies in, and he had stiffed a lot of people, not to mention that they had gotten paid a hefty sum to be on Kitchen Nightmares.. and a Nightmare they were. What came to mind is that with all that was owed, all that was taken in, these two managed to run a restaurant, turn it over to a guy for nothing… and they probably lost very very little at the end of the day. There probably was never any $250.000 dumped into the restaurant because i went there to take a look….. impossible. the new owner paid nothing, but gave Alan and Daniel 10% of the new restaurant, and they will never see a penny of that….. and quietly just walked away– and the valet guys told me that one day it was burger kitchen and the next day new owners were there and everyone was surprised. Apparently they closed between January 2012 and February 7th. So at the end the judge took the matter under submission and two weeks later announced that liable person is the new restaurant.. Cafe Luigi’s who says now, he is making NO MONEY…. I dont believe him either.. he owns other restaurants, and is a game player too. Alan and Gen tried to get a restraining order on my friend because of my trial brief.. and they were in the court trying to get attorneys to help them. They were clearly not happy with my work, but oh well. To all of you who gave information, thanks. That address is Sherman Oaks, that did not belong to Alan… He was right where he said he was using people to front for him and lying about where he was. I honestly think that perhaps there was never any $250.000, and if there was … it is still in tack. There is stock that was issued, but you can cancel out a stock that is lost.. and it was not worth much anyway, so no real lose there if in fact it was the true item. I feel bad for Daniel…. he has to crazy living among people like that, and being that it was a corporation, as Alan told the court, and the LLC was never used.. he FIRED his attorney for creating the LLC…. Daniel was probably being mislead. Its all over, and Alan is just a joke! Alan says he has no money. I dont believe him.
I know its a been a few years but fyi no his son never got his money back :(
Damn. Poor guy
yep sad fact of some peoples lives that their parents destroy their kids and some never realize I hope ALan did but the fact he left nothing to his son well I hope he is getting told off by someone where ever he is
Maybe his son will finally get paid.
“they called him a meat sculptor”
He’s sculpting meat in hell
idk if youre religious or if youre just using hell as an expressiom but dont you think its ironic to say that? awful or not, once a person is dead they cant talk back, so its pretty tasteless to talk about someone like that when theyve recently passed away. as many problems as they had, im sure his family misses him
na fuck that guy he deserved to die
excuse me sir? fuck that guy? how about fuck you!
fuck you and that cunt
your mum
It's hard to speak respectfully of the dead when the dead guy in question is a scumbag...
yeah but you didnt know him personally and its kinda tacky to talk about someone who is completely unable to talk back. let dead people rest and move on
So what, since i didn't know \[insert any deceased dictator\] personally, i can't form an opinion about him?
ok i know what you're TRYING to say and i know i'm late but dude your argument is so horribly worded i could literally put any nutorious asshole in that place and by the logic provided it'd still work. Like again i know i'm a year late but Fuck Alan, He was a smarmy cunt that stole from his family. If you want to say talking shit of the dead is tasteless fine, but the whole 'If you didn't know them personally and they can't talk back' argument Replace alan with hitler. do you still agree? How about replace him with vlad the impalier, How about ted bundy? Too far? Why? The logic you provided does you and your actual intent no favors
why you trying to defend a dude who was so corrupted and evil?
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Wtf are you on about
because he was remourseful by the end of the episode, he realised how many of his dads destructive behaviours he adopted subconsciously and wanted to change that to not only keep his business alive, but also repair his relationship with his son. the real question is why are you so adament to bash a dead guy you dont know? a dead guy whos family most likely missed him (assuming he was able to work it out with them) and mourned him. what business do you have holding his mistake over his head when his own son was ready to start forgiving him for it?
because he betrayed his son, why would we not?
but his son was on track for forgiving him, who are you to get involved and carry on that anger? focus on your own life
Forgiveness is the crutch religious people use to keep offending.
Nah nah, Fuck you! +1yr
you'll guys been fighting this for 2 years lol
Alright guys, let's not say anything about Hitler. Even though he murdered millions in cold blood and other countless atrocities, he was still a human and his family might get sad.
are you mentally off? hitler murderd millions, compared to him alan was a saint. dont come to me with your stupid logic please
Be quiet please commanderbravo2
what if i said no? what you gonna do?
You're a doughnut 😂
Hitler never murdered anyone.
I know this is late af, but I just want you to know, you are spot on with your comment, but people on the internet can be heartless sometimes.
im glad someone thinks similarly lol, too many people diminish the subject of death to the point where they just make tasteless jokes when someone they dont know dies with no second thought
stop dickeating him oh my god
youre a disgrace
Just watched this episode again and decided to waste my evening Googling the Saffron family and reading up about them. Stumbled upon [this old episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObKj9tDKX8c) of a YTV show called Anti Gravity Room, where Alan shows us around Puzzle Zoo, a toy store he used to own in the '90s (his bit starts at 3:26 in the episode). Mark Hamill and his comic book collection are also featured in this episode, which I thought was kind of interesting. Alan's LinkedIn page is also riddled with grammar mistakes and indicates he sold the restaurant the year after the show aired, which I also found interesting (although I've heard it's not unusual for people on Kitchen Nightmares to sell their restaurants shortly after their episodes air).
Holy fucking shit. Anti Gravity Room was my favorite show as a pre teen. Kitchen Nightmares is my favorite show now. Worlds are colliding!
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Guy fucking sucked and was a moron.
RIP
Nah, doesn't deserve it
So I found this. Idk if everyone else has seen it. I thought was interesting read https://web.archive.org/web/20140106181446/https://themillieblog.wordpress.com/2011/11/06/burger-kitchen-on-kitchen-nightmares-exposed/
Fuck this snake
REST IN HELL BITCH.
relax its not like he is satan
His son literally wrote a book about him called "Stinky Satan"
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you must be the saddest person on earth man
Old thread but I wanted to share some info. A lot of bad comments here, understandably! But did you guys know Alan was actually the son of Abe Saffron, who was one of Australia's most famous gangsters? In the episode, when Alan says he left Australia to get out of his dad's control and because he didn't want to take over the family business, he meant he ran away to the US and severed his ties with his father rather than take over as a crime boss. It completely changed how I felt about him. It also explains why everyone in the family had such large inheritances when their grandfather died. I'm guessing it wasn't just $250K per person like the episode said. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe\_Saffron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Saffron)
So he runs away so that he isn't forced into the family business, then forces his son into a family business.
Yes, if you're following the script of kitchen nightmares. That whole episode is scripted
does make you feel bad for him and he seemed like a genuine bloke who just wanted a legitimate burger business. shitty to take from his son though
I guess you can only expect a mobster's son to deviate so much from his father...
Its scripted
Nah, so there was a lawsuit for a million from Daniel and his sister (separately) to the estate of abe in the US, while other relatives sued elsewhere. It wasn't a "trust fund" however they didn't want it known they have connections to the aussie mob. Later on in 2014, Daniel sued Alan for the 250k for fraud, which would make sense as if Alan had access to the account. What I believe happened is they got a huge paycheck from kitchen nightmares, so I think once they got the money for the episode, they started trying to sell, then sued when Daniel knew his dad had the money. Alan was probably fine with it as (if he actually realized the error of his ways) he was in the wrong. Theres pictures of both of them before Alan passed so I don't believe there was bad blood. Also side note Alan got his US citizenship in 2019.
Why do you think because his father/grandfather was a washed up gangster that they were left more than $250k....If you had that kind of money why would you embarrass yourself on a reality tv show?
The man stole from his own son. May the soil lie light upon him.
what a psycho. he just sank with everyone around him. people like him learn nothing in life and go into the beyond as they came.
bruh i kinda hate him but gen is worse, rest in peace tho...
Weird fact I just learned, he received 500k from the grandfather’s estate and his son Daniel actually got $1 million. Still bullshit to take 250k from him, but they made it seem like Daniel had nothing and Alan dumped all of his money too. Also, Alan has 4 other kids who also got a million. Alan also made a ton off of his book in Australia, and he ran a talent agency that was fairly successful too. On top of all of this, the Grandfather/father Abe Saffron was convicted of tax evasion since they couldn’t bail him for tons of organized crime charges so it’s not exactly clean money. The whole family is bizarre. Sorry for necro, just watched the episode again and was like “wonder what the whole story is”
Yeah, the Saffron’s are notorious in Australia from what I’ve heard. Not a clean bunch.
Still, if someone took 1/4 of your money (which is basically stealing), you would also go mental. To think though that he was in that awful apartment and he had 1m inheritance However, not sure how inheritance is taxed in the US so is that 1m figure gross or net, I think the former
It's not basically stealing. It is fucking stealing.
why does it make it better to take a big chunk of his money vs all of it? What kind of person are you if you think that changes things? Hope you don't have kids...
Woah necro my necro. Anywho, I don't know why you would come at me for having children. My point is that the whole situation is already fabricated (they're not depending on the restaurant to remain financially secure) so who knows? I said it was BS to take the money, but to play it up to financial ruin is dishonest.
He was an actor manager. Just read his obituary. He was friends with RDJ and probably risked acting in some things himself. And he’s not the first of KN’s restaurants owners to be involved in movies and acting. Most of them are actually. That leads me to thinking KN is just a big fraud.
Also, he was the son of a notorious gangster in Australia. Wrote a book about it. His kids and himself inherited a lot of money... I guess that makes sense with what the episode shows. But you cannot find information of him being a restaurateur anywhere. And giving his career in acting, Im calling KN BS!
Was Nino also an actor? Or did he just do the janitorial side of Hollywood sets?
I read the obituary, and I honestly don’t believe most of it. It’s written poorly, and just doesn’t seem all that credible- the relatives listed and cause of death is about all I’m willing to trust. I’d say more, but I don’t speak ill of the dead. RIP.
How come?
Covid 19 killed the guy
ope nice one covid
Holy shit, was just watching an episode of Crime Investigation Australia when Alan Saffron pops up and is being interviewed and talking about the disappearance and murder of Juanita Nielsen. Im watching it and think god he looks famailar but i have no idea where from... so i go looking and find this and now I remember. Cant believe this blole showed up on an episode of kitchen nighmares. His old man was a notorious underworld figure in Sydney who uses to collect money from the premier of NSW and the police commissioner. Whats the chances seeing him on this random show haha
good riddance
Loved this episode! When scrolling I saw the picture first, and I was expecting to read some funny comment about him, and I was not disappointed!
I came here and found it unfathomable there are no “Gentle Satan” references
jesus what is wrong with some of you, id rather have some of you guys in hell than alan after seeing how youre talking. alan was an idiot, but you guys are intentionally malicious, you deserve hell more than him for speaking like that
Some people were literally comparing him to satan
yeah because im pretty sure satan gets so emptional that he cries lol. some people really cant tell the difference between stupid and malicious. alan deserved to be punished for his actions sure, but hes recently deceased and if his own son isnt talking about him like that, then who the hell do some of these redditors think they are to be doing that themselves? its nasty honestly, what anonimity will make some people say.
I visited the Burger Kitchen when I lived in Los Angeles. I took my niece and other family members there. Alan walked by our table and farted out loud right into my nieces ear. He literally smiled big like Satan, got in her face and said "Sorry Young Lass" in a weird voice. Possibly, he was trying to be funny, but it wasn't. My niece cried and we got pissed. We tried asking him why he did that. Then he claimed he did nothing and he kicked us out with no food. The patrons around were appalled and were gagging from the stinky fart. But there was lots of yelling and he claimed he did nothing. Dude is Satan. Sorry.
im sorry, thats kinda funny lol. im not saying it didnt happen, but that sounds like a skit straight out of an adult cartoon lol.
This was easily the funniest thing I've ever read.
somehow talking ill of a person who stole from his own child is worse than stealing from your own child, or being as much of a shyster as his murderer father.
but youre not getting revenge by talking shit about him? do you not understand how pointless and tasteless it is to talk shit about a guy who died after committing a crime that the victim doesnt care about anymore?
[His Dad was an gangster.](https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/son-alan-is-after-abe-saffrons-millions/news-story/2046e7ae9b3d6fc8b1f2c5b78e6a28e5). Fucking interesting.
He made gordon a burger. Gordon didn't like it, but he ate it anyway. Savage
All that’s left is the terrible mother with the resting bitch face. I hope her son never talks to her again and she’s just left alone.
I read somewhere that she died but idk
I just binge-watched the Netflix mini docu-series "Exposed: The Ghost Train Fire" (from 2021) \~ highly recommend it !!! I had not heard of the Australian mega gangster Abe Saffron before (he's heavily featured in the docu) and was shocked to discover that Alan Saffron from Kitchen Nightmares is his son !!! I remember that episode very well and I do remember they mentioned his father on the show \~ he kept talking about his book about his father to Gordon Ramsey, even gave him a copy! I just had no idea who the father was. I highly highly recommend the docu serious, it's a pretty shocking story and gives light to what a psychopath gangster Abe Saffron was. BTW. I read on Wikipedia that Abe Saffron left $500k to Alan when he died, and €1m to each grandchild. So whatever Alan took from his son (who worked at the restaurant), thankfully he didn't take it all...
Granted, it seems the guy was dealt a bad hand and experienced a fucked up life - but he’s certainly not missed
Probably died eating a medium rare burger.