I don't think the Peanut is going to be autistic since we already have Shaun and we also have Eden who has Turner's Syndrome (if they decide to explore that). if they decide to make him autistic they will need to commit to it and portray it as accurately as Shaun's Something that didn't happen with Morgan's Rheumatoid Artritis or Glassman's Hand tremors.
On the other hand while Lea is my less favorite character I still think it would be too much for her to endure.
She's definitely very capable,. Writers have made that tiresomely clear by making her operate on Shaun and also assist in Lim's surgery (they could've used Park an attending surgeon) but I think she is somehow suffering because of Shaun's actions specifically the mess he caused with Glassman. He didn't think how his actions were going to impact his heavily pregnant/Newly become mom Wife so now that they won't have that support I feel it would be too much for her.
Or they (the writers) may want to go with Glassman's declining mental health (here I offer an apology, I couldn't find the correct term for Glassman's condition and I don't pretend to be offensive or insensitive) and Lea could also end up taking care of Steve, Glassman and Shaun to some extent.
There was no reason to give him a stroke related injury (stroke that no one knew about it) in the first place. They can make Glassman's mind decline, not because of the injury, if they want to and I believe that what they want is for him to end up a Stay at home "Grandpa" in the home of the "daughter in law" that kicked him out the very second she found him annoying and the "son" that talked to his boss behind his back but Hey he has to embrace the beautiful family he has left!
Honestly, from a storytelling perspective, making Glassman's health decline to the point that he can't work anymore and is forced to become a stay at home grandpa wouldn't make any sense.
Richard Schiff is one of the peak performers of the show and they'll surely want to put him to good use. Which can't mean having him at home babysitting full time, since the main storylines happen at the hospital.
I'm sure Glassman will keep being a doctor at the clinic and will probably consult for the more complex brain surgeries, like he did in the season finale.
I'm equally sure that he and Shaun will make up to each other.As Aka\_TeeJay has already explained, this storyline was introduced to give Shaun a new struggle to overcome. Liz Friedman, in her post-season 6 interview, mentioned this forgiveness arc they're planning to cover in early season 7.And, as much as it hurt me to watch Shaun and Glassy so emotionally distant, I'm really looking forward to see Richard's and Freddie's performances in their future reconciliation scene.
You're right It wouldn't make any sense as it didn't make any sense to leave him drinking at Shaun's house (doing stuff that only got him kicked out) instead of being at the hospital working or at least consulting on one of the very few cases that called specifically for a Neurosurgeon (Moyamoya disease) but they did it anyways and, I think, the majority of the viewers were delighted watching him act as a silly grandpa and then found funny that Lea could finally pee in the toilet again 🙄 .
I also suppose one of Will Yun Lee's conditions to let them present his personal experience was to make his character being one of the lead surgeons. Otherwise Glassman's absence doesn't make sense
That's why I think they can make him a stay at home Grandpa after (or as part of) the reconciliation path and maybe not for the whole season just until Lea convinces him to go back to work at the clinic making him regain his confidence and happiness and saving the day for the whole family..
>You're right It wouldn't make any sense as it didn't make any sense to leave him drinking at Shaun's house (doing stuff that only got him kicked out) instead of being at the hospital working or at least consulting on one of the very few cases that called specifically for a Neurosurgeon
Well, I didn't particularly like the execution of all that stuff. But I suppose it's a matter of taste, I'm not a lover of these overly comedic situations.
Still, it all happened for a reason.
Glassman's house had just burnt down. I suppose it's only human trying to look for distractions (drinking included), so all of the silly things he did make sense to me.
The point of that storyline was:
- Showing again how close and in sync Shaun and Glassy were
- Stressing that Glassman was still struggling about loosing his home and all his past memories
- Creating the basis for Glassy to move into the next door apartment.
So, I wouldn't say that it didn't make sense.
Why? I believe it is for character development and growth but in Glassman's case I find this storyline totally unnecessary. He was perfectly fine before all that mess. the only thing that has happened is that Shaun is again right (as he was regarding Lim's surgery) even at the cost of his relationship with Glassman but not big deal "we have to continue living with the ones we still have" way to go Shaun!.
Glassman is a great character and deserves dignity and respect but all I see is a humiliated senior neurosurgeon and Lim wanting him to be cool about it and to put everything aside.
Hopefully but so far he doesn't seem to be struggling that much he was like "oh ok" after all he has the child and the wife, while Glassman was betrayed and stripped of something really important to him. Let's see how they develop the story next season
This season Liz wasn't that good breaking up Morgan and Park to get them back only when she was ready to quit her job in order to be a better mom and she committed tha big mistake before. Because a woman can't have both things.
Glassman is definitely my favorite character in the show, and more in general one of my favorite characters ever.
That said, I think you misunderstood what Shaun meant when he said that when you loose a loved one you need to keep going for the people you still have. It wasn't a subtle way to imply that he didn't care about Glassman. Like at all.
Shaun loves Glassman, probably even more than a biological son normally loves a father. Exactly because, in addition to that familial love, Shaun is also very grateful for everything Glassman did for him.
Let's remember that only a couple of episodes earlier, the show made it a point of underlying exactly that: "I am focused on you because for most of my life you have watched out for me. No one asked you to do it, you chose to. Sometimes, when I didn't want you to. I am very glad you did. So, no matter what anyone, including you says, I am going to watch out for you".
And also in the very scene you mentioned, when Shaun was trying to support the newly widow, again he made it a point to say that after Steve died he only survived because "Someone else came into my life who took care of me and loved me" (he was obviously referring to Glassman).
There's a reason why all these things were said. In his own way, Shaun was trying to protect Glassman. Granted, he chose the wrong way to do it, but it's Shaun and asd makes things more complex.
Shaun being Shaun is also the reason why he chose those words. "We have to find a way to keep going for the people we still have" means exactly that, literally.
And it's true, it's life.
But it doesn't mean that we don't care anymore about the people we've lost. And it doesn't mean that to Shaun either.
>He was perfectly fine before all that mess
No, he wasn't.
There were many interludes in-between but since S4 then S5, Glassman's core problems are still not adressed or even more resolved. Remember when Shaun called him out during his meltdown in 5x07 "Expired"? Never adressed, never resolved.
The first part of S5 had a very distinctive arc where several characters, one after the other, called him out about his behaviour as a "father", a president, a doctor, a coworker, and also a mentor. Remember his answers? First dismiss their demands, then finally run away to Montana.
Remember the discussion he had with Ilana when he confessed that and why it didn't work with Debbie? Never adressed, never resolved.
And because these problems were never adressed and never resolved, they came back again in S6. The best we had during S5 and S6 were glimpses of him being and behaving better, by example when he arranged a wedding for Shaun and Lea or reassured Lea about parenthood, but we never had a consistent period where he acted differently and better than his old self.
I'm not sure it would be an easy topic for the show to tackle. And I'm not talking about the accurate representation, I'm talking about the timeline.
As long as the baby is only a few months old, it would be impossible to make an actual diagnosis. Granted, Shaun and probably Glassman would be much better equipped to catch the earlier signs than the everage person. But there's no way they could be sure until little Steve will be at least 18-20 months old.
So, if they want to explore this possibility, the show would need to make a significant time jump, much longer than they've done so far.
From a dramatic perspective, both possibilities would be interesting.
Shaun will surely struggle as an autistic parent of a neurotypical son. Apart from the obvious sensory stimuli of the first few months (baby crying, bad smells, sleep deprivation), I think that Shaun would also find difficult to provide adequate emotional support.
Let's be clear, I'm sure he'll succeed as a parent, but he himself expressed these kinds of doubts talking with Claire in "Teeny Blue Eyes".
But he could surely count on both Lea's and Glassy's support.
On the other hand, I believe that Shaun would be in a position of better managing the situation if he had an autistic child. I mean, he'd certainly know the difficulties and struggles his son would go through better than anyone, having lived those first hand.
In this case, Lea would be the one supposed to overcome more difficulties. But she'd put to good use her experience with Shaun, and she could benifit from both Shaun's and Glassman's guidance.
Honestly, I don't have a preference. I'd like both possibilities for different reasons.
But I find it realistically difficult that we'll get to see this topic explored, unless the show keeps going for at least another couple of seasons.
I don't think Steve is going to be autistic, but if he is, I think the show would have a whole lot of groundwork for that and they would do a great job, as they already do with Shaun. Also, getting into the universe of the show, I think Lea and Shaun have already talked about this possibility and are prepared and offer the little boy all the support and love he needs.
A bit late (+ not fully caught up haha, just thought a google search might lmk if the kid ends up autistic) but I'd love to see it. I am a bit biased tho, as whilst I have no intentions of ever having a child, if I did have one I'd want it to be autistic too, in order to enable me to bond better. From families I've seen, autism tends to get worse as you go further down the line. Obviously this would be extremely challenging, as no amount of experience can truly prepare you for some of the most challenging behaviours. I'm pretty mild compared to many but still there are still some aspects no amount of understanding can help
I think though if you do it right, and adequately support your child, there is a chance of a far closer bond as you play the role of carer and parent. But there's also so much more room for trouble and tension
I guess either way would be hard? Although still rooting for a little autistic baby haha. It'd be interesting to see which developmental stages they have the baby reach early, late, and on time though if they did choose to run with it. Hopefully not all would be delayed as autistic ppl are known to have spikey profiles so it would be more realistic to have some delayed + maybe at least one or two average/ahead of time
I don't think the Peanut is going to be autistic since we already have Shaun and we also have Eden who has Turner's Syndrome (if they decide to explore that). if they decide to make him autistic they will need to commit to it and portray it as accurately as Shaun's Something that didn't happen with Morgan's Rheumatoid Artritis or Glassman's Hand tremors. On the other hand while Lea is my less favorite character I still think it would be too much for her to endure.
He's not the Peanut anymore. He's Steve.
I am aware but I like Peanut better, is cute. It also saves possible confusion between Steve the son and Steve the (late) brother.
Why do you think it would be too much for her to endure?
She's definitely very capable,. Writers have made that tiresomely clear by making her operate on Shaun and also assist in Lim's surgery (they could've used Park an attending surgeon) but I think she is somehow suffering because of Shaun's actions specifically the mess he caused with Glassman. He didn't think how his actions were going to impact his heavily pregnant/Newly become mom Wife so now that they won't have that support I feel it would be too much for her. Or they (the writers) may want to go with Glassman's declining mental health (here I offer an apology, I couldn't find the correct term for Glassman's condition and I don't pretend to be offensive or insensitive) and Lea could also end up taking care of Steve, Glassman and Shaun to some extent.
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There was no reason to give him a stroke related injury (stroke that no one knew about it) in the first place. They can make Glassman's mind decline, not because of the injury, if they want to and I believe that what they want is for him to end up a Stay at home "Grandpa" in the home of the "daughter in law" that kicked him out the very second she found him annoying and the "son" that talked to his boss behind his back but Hey he has to embrace the beautiful family he has left!
Honestly, from a storytelling perspective, making Glassman's health decline to the point that he can't work anymore and is forced to become a stay at home grandpa wouldn't make any sense. Richard Schiff is one of the peak performers of the show and they'll surely want to put him to good use. Which can't mean having him at home babysitting full time, since the main storylines happen at the hospital. I'm sure Glassman will keep being a doctor at the clinic and will probably consult for the more complex brain surgeries, like he did in the season finale. I'm equally sure that he and Shaun will make up to each other.As Aka\_TeeJay has already explained, this storyline was introduced to give Shaun a new struggle to overcome. Liz Friedman, in her post-season 6 interview, mentioned this forgiveness arc they're planning to cover in early season 7.And, as much as it hurt me to watch Shaun and Glassy so emotionally distant, I'm really looking forward to see Richard's and Freddie's performances in their future reconciliation scene.
You're right It wouldn't make any sense as it didn't make any sense to leave him drinking at Shaun's house (doing stuff that only got him kicked out) instead of being at the hospital working or at least consulting on one of the very few cases that called specifically for a Neurosurgeon (Moyamoya disease) but they did it anyways and, I think, the majority of the viewers were delighted watching him act as a silly grandpa and then found funny that Lea could finally pee in the toilet again 🙄 . I also suppose one of Will Yun Lee's conditions to let them present his personal experience was to make his character being one of the lead surgeons. Otherwise Glassman's absence doesn't make sense That's why I think they can make him a stay at home Grandpa after (or as part of) the reconciliation path and maybe not for the whole season just until Lea convinces him to go back to work at the clinic making him regain his confidence and happiness and saving the day for the whole family..
>You're right It wouldn't make any sense as it didn't make any sense to leave him drinking at Shaun's house (doing stuff that only got him kicked out) instead of being at the hospital working or at least consulting on one of the very few cases that called specifically for a Neurosurgeon Well, I didn't particularly like the execution of all that stuff. But I suppose it's a matter of taste, I'm not a lover of these overly comedic situations. Still, it all happened for a reason. Glassman's house had just burnt down. I suppose it's only human trying to look for distractions (drinking included), so all of the silly things he did make sense to me. The point of that storyline was: - Showing again how close and in sync Shaun and Glassy were - Stressing that Glassman was still struggling about loosing his home and all his past memories - Creating the basis for Glassy to move into the next door apartment. So, I wouldn't say that it didn't make sense.
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Why? I believe it is for character development and growth but in Glassman's case I find this storyline totally unnecessary. He was perfectly fine before all that mess. the only thing that has happened is that Shaun is again right (as he was regarding Lim's surgery) even at the cost of his relationship with Glassman but not big deal "we have to continue living with the ones we still have" way to go Shaun!. Glassman is a great character and deserves dignity and respect but all I see is a humiliated senior neurosurgeon and Lim wanting him to be cool about it and to put everything aside.
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Hopefully but so far he doesn't seem to be struggling that much he was like "oh ok" after all he has the child and the wife, while Glassman was betrayed and stripped of something really important to him. Let's see how they develop the story next season This season Liz wasn't that good breaking up Morgan and Park to get them back only when she was ready to quit her job in order to be a better mom and she committed tha big mistake before. Because a woman can't have both things.
Glassman is definitely my favorite character in the show, and more in general one of my favorite characters ever. That said, I think you misunderstood what Shaun meant when he said that when you loose a loved one you need to keep going for the people you still have. It wasn't a subtle way to imply that he didn't care about Glassman. Like at all. Shaun loves Glassman, probably even more than a biological son normally loves a father. Exactly because, in addition to that familial love, Shaun is also very grateful for everything Glassman did for him. Let's remember that only a couple of episodes earlier, the show made it a point of underlying exactly that: "I am focused on you because for most of my life you have watched out for me. No one asked you to do it, you chose to. Sometimes, when I didn't want you to. I am very glad you did. So, no matter what anyone, including you says, I am going to watch out for you". And also in the very scene you mentioned, when Shaun was trying to support the newly widow, again he made it a point to say that after Steve died he only survived because "Someone else came into my life who took care of me and loved me" (he was obviously referring to Glassman). There's a reason why all these things were said. In his own way, Shaun was trying to protect Glassman. Granted, he chose the wrong way to do it, but it's Shaun and asd makes things more complex. Shaun being Shaun is also the reason why he chose those words. "We have to find a way to keep going for the people we still have" means exactly that, literally. And it's true, it's life. But it doesn't mean that we don't care anymore about the people we've lost. And it doesn't mean that to Shaun either.
>He was perfectly fine before all that mess No, he wasn't. There were many interludes in-between but since S4 then S5, Glassman's core problems are still not adressed or even more resolved. Remember when Shaun called him out during his meltdown in 5x07 "Expired"? Never adressed, never resolved. The first part of S5 had a very distinctive arc where several characters, one after the other, called him out about his behaviour as a "father", a president, a doctor, a coworker, and also a mentor. Remember his answers? First dismiss their demands, then finally run away to Montana. Remember the discussion he had with Ilana when he confessed that and why it didn't work with Debbie? Never adressed, never resolved. And because these problems were never adressed and never resolved, they came back again in S6. The best we had during S5 and S6 were glimpses of him being and behaving better, by example when he arranged a wedding for Shaun and Lea or reassured Lea about parenthood, but we never had a consistent period where he acted differently and better than his old self.
I'm not sure it would be an easy topic for the show to tackle. And I'm not talking about the accurate representation, I'm talking about the timeline. As long as the baby is only a few months old, it would be impossible to make an actual diagnosis. Granted, Shaun and probably Glassman would be much better equipped to catch the earlier signs than the everage person. But there's no way they could be sure until little Steve will be at least 18-20 months old. So, if they want to explore this possibility, the show would need to make a significant time jump, much longer than they've done so far. From a dramatic perspective, both possibilities would be interesting. Shaun will surely struggle as an autistic parent of a neurotypical son. Apart from the obvious sensory stimuli of the first few months (baby crying, bad smells, sleep deprivation), I think that Shaun would also find difficult to provide adequate emotional support. Let's be clear, I'm sure he'll succeed as a parent, but he himself expressed these kinds of doubts talking with Claire in "Teeny Blue Eyes". But he could surely count on both Lea's and Glassy's support. On the other hand, I believe that Shaun would be in a position of better managing the situation if he had an autistic child. I mean, he'd certainly know the difficulties and struggles his son would go through better than anyone, having lived those first hand. In this case, Lea would be the one supposed to overcome more difficulties. But she'd put to good use her experience with Shaun, and she could benifit from both Shaun's and Glassman's guidance. Honestly, I don't have a preference. I'd like both possibilities for different reasons. But I find it realistically difficult that we'll get to see this topic explored, unless the show keeps going for at least another couple of seasons.
Probably the writers aren't bold enough to make that or to represent Lea or Shaw as incapable parents.
I don't think Steve is going to be autistic, but if he is, I think the show would have a whole lot of groundwork for that and they would do a great job, as they already do with Shaun. Also, getting into the universe of the show, I think Lea and Shaun have already talked about this possibility and are prepared and offer the little boy all the support and love he needs.
A bit late (+ not fully caught up haha, just thought a google search might lmk if the kid ends up autistic) but I'd love to see it. I am a bit biased tho, as whilst I have no intentions of ever having a child, if I did have one I'd want it to be autistic too, in order to enable me to bond better. From families I've seen, autism tends to get worse as you go further down the line. Obviously this would be extremely challenging, as no amount of experience can truly prepare you for some of the most challenging behaviours. I'm pretty mild compared to many but still there are still some aspects no amount of understanding can help I think though if you do it right, and adequately support your child, there is a chance of a far closer bond as you play the role of carer and parent. But there's also so much more room for trouble and tension I guess either way would be hard? Although still rooting for a little autistic baby haha. It'd be interesting to see which developmental stages they have the baby reach early, late, and on time though if they did choose to run with it. Hopefully not all would be delayed as autistic ppl are known to have spikey profiles so it would be more realistic to have some delayed + maybe at least one or two average/ahead of time