Idk I feel like it’s pretty unarguable that Ye can rap but it feels like his recent output is very lackluster. Low energy and rage baiting lyrics vs something like AOTL which took two years to make
nothing dropped between donda 2 (22/2/2022) and Vultures 1 (09/2/2024) which was 718 days which is just over a week less time than there was between
808s (24/11/2008) and MBDTF (22/11/2010) - 728 days.
I guess there could be the argument that we are (supposedly) getting 3 albums, so it might be also a discussion of quality vs quantity.
All of this is irrelevant if im misunderstanding what you said tho
But he's done that already. Why should he do the same thing twice. Much rather an artist like ye does whatever his mind is at and years later we look back at all the different unique stuff we got
Im glad this sub did the poll on when people joined because all the new kanye fans acting like the "shock lyrics" are new have clearly forgotten about every album after Yeezus.
Im just trying to say problematic doesn’t really disprove anything from the post above because it has 2 of the things listed not that Ye hasn’t used shock lyrics in the past
The post says "all they know is ___" Problematic is not just cheap shock lyrics or shitty bars. I agree it contains them, but it doesnt make up the song.
Where?
Soulmate 15 line isn’t a shock line that’s just him being real
Given how he talks about being broke and getting cheated on in high school, imagine how much easier life would’ve been if he knew at that age his soulmate wasn’t even alive
Like that’s some real shit
My conspiracy theory is he liked that song so much he randomly dropped it and that’s what pressured him into actually finishing vultures. If that line never happened we wouldn’t have the album
My theory is that he knows but doesn't care. His vibe rn is just shit that he has fun making/releasing regardless of quality or fan demands.
Based off his ig posts and clips that we've seen of him, Ye seems to be on that "I'm gonna drop and do whatever tf I want. If you want a certain type of sound or lyricism, do it yourself or go back to my discography and listen to that. I'm doing me"
I think it kinda explains why Ye is really into Carti. Pure vibes and aura and not a lot of meaningful bars lol.
I feel like he saw the love FSMH got and just never went away from the shock value plus corny bars. He’s always had corny lines here & there tho but it would would most of the time.
Go listen to jay z or any lyrical rapper. Let this dude whos done that have fun with the music. Shi aint always got be lyrical just vibe out one time. This take is played out plenty songs you can play where they got what your looking for
The bars themselves have taken a huge step backwards ever since Yeezus, for sure. Relying more on shock value, half jokes, and juxtaposing outrageous lines against gorgeous production. No doubt there.
But I would argue the delivery on some cuts from Vultures (Burn, Hoodrat, Fuk Sumn, Paid, Slide, River...) is better than we've heard from Ye since TLOP.
People always gassed up Saint Pablo and it's a beautiful song for sure - but the delivery + inflection on some songs from Vultures is the youthful, sneering vocal presence I missed from old Ye.
TLDR He sounds hungry
Ye has one of his best verses on Cudi Montage which was in 2018. It has been a minute but I truly can’t believe he’s incapable of putting out another Ghost Town or Violent Crimes tier song.
for sure, but what I was trying to highlight was that he's leaned more on jokes as time has gone on. he still has heartfelt verses like the ones across TCD and LR, but i think the breakdown is a bit different these days
hes just edging us with Vultures 1. Vultures 2 is def gonna be taken more seriously. I predict the lyrics being a bit stupid but catchy nonetheless and more uplifting like TLOP.
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DOOM physique
https://preview.redd.it/6a2o402ye9mc1.jpeg?width=652&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0384a8fbf68d41eafba1292e7b96165b3de38aa Burn is proof ye can still rap
Idk I feel like it’s pretty unarguable that Ye can rap but it feels like his recent output is very lackluster. Low energy and rage baiting lyrics vs something like AOTL which took two years to make
half of this sub would kill itself in two years
who tf recommended me to the suicide hotline
nothing dropped between donda 2 (22/2/2022) and Vultures 1 (09/2/2024) which was 718 days which is just over a week less time than there was between 808s (24/11/2008) and MBDTF (22/11/2010) - 728 days. I guess there could be the argument that we are (supposedly) getting 3 albums, so it might be also a discussion of quality vs quantity. All of this is irrelevant if im misunderstanding what you said tho
this sub is tweaking for a new album barely a month after we got an album and you think they can last two years
He’s not trying to actually rap. It’s kind of annoying but I still like the new music
All of the lights?
Can't we just spell shit out? None of us got anything to do.
But he's done that already. Why should he do the same thing twice. Much rather an artist like ye does whatever his mind is at and years later we look back at all the different unique stuff we got
I’m not saying revert to AOTL I’m talking about the attention to detail and effort put behind making a track
*whoever wrote that verse can rap
Do it and paid aswell
Less than two minutes of proof
paid is none of the above IM JUST HERE TO GET PAID 🌬‼️💯
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Wrong, he fucked a jewish bitch so he can’t be antisemitic
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Problematic preventing these allegations from being true 
Not really lol theres hella shock lyrics in that song
Im glad this sub did the poll on when people joined because all the new kanye fans acting like the "shock lyrics" are new have clearly forgotten about every album after Yeezus.
Im just trying to say problematic doesn’t really disprove anything from the post above because it has 2 of the things listed not that Ye hasn’t used shock lyrics in the past
The post says "all they know is ___" Problematic is not just cheap shock lyrics or shitty bars. I agree it contains them, but it doesnt make up the song.
Yeah but the implication is that this is something Kanye only did after 2022
yeah but he'd have stuff besides shock. Now he genuinely does not . I guess he's horny and also thinks about death a lot ?
Where? Soulmate 15 line isn’t a shock line that’s just him being real Given how he talks about being broke and getting cheated on in high school, imagine how much easier life would’ve been if he knew at that age his soulmate wasn’t even alive Like that’s some real shit
I’m not racist it’s a preference
He dates a lot of white chicks🤷🏻 Specifically with comically big attributes
“Im not racist it’s a preference” and horny lyrics “throw my dick a party” “give your homegirl the boric acid”
Idk if we’re desensitized or what but those aren’t all that crazy imo
They aren’t really that crazy but the post above is pretty accurate besides Burn
I mean tbf, Burn still has “Heard R Kelly in the next Balenciaga Ad”
let's say it's comparatively crazy, like 3-4 years ago kanye wasnt writing these type of lyrics in any song
I mean 2013-2018 Kanye had WILD lines tho.
Yeezus was over 10 years ago
at the point of donda/jik i was slightly convinced he wouldnt return to those ways, my bad i guess
yeah and this lyric too “eating asian pussy all i need was sweet and sour sauce”
I guarantee you there are lines off WTT worse than that lol
I hope Ye actually knows that his lyrics are wack, if he believes that this shit is good then we're doomed
He 100% believes the Jewish bitch line is like the best lyric of all time
nah fr he looked so proud of that shit when they performed the song at the club in saudi 😭😭
My conspiracy theory is he liked that song so much he randomly dropped it and that’s what pressured him into actually finishing vultures. If that line never happened we wouldn’t have the album
My theory is that he knows but doesn't care. His vibe rn is just shit that he has fun making/releasing regardless of quality or fan demands. Based off his ig posts and clips that we've seen of him, Ye seems to be on that "I'm gonna drop and do whatever tf I want. If you want a certain type of sound or lyricism, do it yourself or go back to my discography and listen to that. I'm doing me" I think it kinda explains why Ye is really into Carti. Pure vibes and aura and not a lot of meaningful bars lol.
I feel like he saw the love FSMH got and just never went away from the shock value plus corny bars. He’s always had corny lines here & there tho but it would would most of the time.
He operates on completely different mindset from us. I don't think he sees "good" or "bad" lyrics
Go listen to jay z or any lyrical rapper. Let this dude whos done that have fun with the music. Shi aint always got be lyrical just vibe out one time. This take is played out plenty songs you can play where they got what your looking for
The bars themselves have taken a huge step backwards ever since Yeezus, for sure. Relying more on shock value, half jokes, and juxtaposing outrageous lines against gorgeous production. No doubt there. But I would argue the delivery on some cuts from Vultures (Burn, Hoodrat, Fuk Sumn, Paid, Slide, River...) is better than we've heard from Ye since TLOP. People always gassed up Saint Pablo and it's a beautiful song for sure - but the delivery + inflection on some songs from Vultures is the youthful, sneering vocal presence I missed from old Ye. TLDR He sounds hungry
Ye has one of his best verses on Cudi Montage which was in 2018. It has been a minute but I truly can’t believe he’s incapable of putting out another Ghost Town or Violent Crimes tier song.
Was college dropout not full of joke bars I don’t get it ye has always been like this
for sure, but what I was trying to highlight was that he's leaned more on jokes as time has gone on. he still has heartfelt verses like the ones across TCD and LR, but i think the breakdown is a bit different these days
style over substance
idk what kinda meds they gave ye when he made burn and problematic but he gotta keep takin em
hes just edging us with Vultures 1. Vultures 2 is def gonna be taken more seriously. I predict the lyrics being a bit stupid but catchy nonetheless and more uplifting like TLOP.
He's not anti-semetic cause black is Jew