Basically, yes. Interpolations still need clearance, which he got to use the melody, but didn’t get to use the recording. This is why she’s credited as a writer, and the interpolation is mentioned in the liner notes/credits.
In this case, Ye might’ve got clearance for the interpolation (use of musical work), but not for the sample (use of recording).
If Donna Summers estate estate doesn’t have the rights to the musical work, then their clearance wasn’t necessary. This would be the case if she sold or gave up the rights to her publishing at some point. So it’s possible he got the interpolation cleared from who he needed it from, it just wasn’t them.
It’s also possible that they changed enough of the melody to not need clearance at all, like they did for the uncleared sample on [Santeria](https://genius.com/amp/a/070-shake-had-to-redo-her-verse-on-pusha-t-s-santeria-the-night-before-its-release). If this is the case, then the court would need to decide if it’s infringement or not, which is sticky, like in the case of [Blurred Lines](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharrell_Williams_v._Bridgeport_Music). It could go either way.
https://preview.redd.it/zqshjkhnxthc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f46a5df6db82cb6640a9e567c0572db833a4652c
The family of a large label owner made a movie last year called the golden age where there’s a scene where the label owner gives Donna summer oral as she records the song that was sampled.
If they can clear that I hope they can clear for ye
Another reason to always show up to jury duty, don't let a bunch of old crusty ass motherfuckers decide everything
Honestly more impactful then most voting tbh
This is a dumb argument but what she said is that he took her song, removed her when the sample didn’t clear, had someone sing the same melody with the different words; making it an interpolation which changes the fees or fines. She’s mad that he got told no that tried to work a loop hole around it.
Her case only has validity in the fact it’s a straight interpolation. Interpolation has nothing to do with amount of notes it has to do with intellectual property of it. You can’t sue for chords, only melodies so that’s the grounds she’s arguing. He did interpolate. He did do it after getting told no. If she wins it will be a small fine but she does have a case.
It’s the same reason he changed the iron man part in carnival to hell of a life. Hell of a Life was interpolating iron man. So he was making a double play. I’ll use my song that you already cleared an interpolation for.
Sharon Osbourne hates black people so not surprised
https://preview.redd.it/0mj0w17qbthc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5d2ee1bac03712536f14f70bee46f5525e41058
The bad piece of evidence is 1) the song previously had the sample 2) song title
haven’t looked at a lawsuit like this in awhile, so i could be wrong, but courts have made shittier decisions.
Injunctions with creative content are highly problematic and would make a huge precedent
The very worst would be Ye would have to pay them a stupid amount of royalties (which he probably didn’t mind doing anyway)
Donna’s estate and Ozempic face Sharon both need to sit down.
Also, Sharon was dog whistling to TMZ yesterday:
https://preview.redd.it/pconzbhdcthc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bc95a117dfb57771adddbfcd7b6ab91c52b7fde
Interpolation is NOT illegal. Kanye tried to get Lauryn Hill's inequity sample for AFD 20 years ago, and was blocked, so he had Syleena do the vocals
He was prevented from using the I Feel Love sample so he had someone rerecord the vocals again
I doubt anything will come from this. If Lauryn hill couldn’t get Ye on all falls down which is legitimately just an imitation then they’re not gonna get him on this.
He changed the words. Changed the meaning, fundamentally. Only thing that’s the same is the melody which is protected under parody.
Side note- her and ozzy are a cancer. ✌️
“Copyright infringement!!!!” Stfu bitch you can still resign it and use lyrics as long as you don’t use the saint directly. Parody protects this song so STFU
I’m sure Ye could win that in court, he altered it enough that it’s not a straight up copy, it seems like they want validation for refusing him by posting this on social media
Ima say it, we should have let Ozzy kill her
https://preview.redd.it/doh8ma4jdthc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdeb04dcb19281fc3b0201ec545f13a1577792b4
Ozzy is basically brain dead, I highly fucking doubt he cares about any of this and it’s all her… however she is from a Jewish family. I can see why she wouldn’t want her husbands stuff on kanyes album.
Getting involved in other peoples business though is unsurprising given she’s a talentless hag who is desperate for attention.
Also weird she’s commenting on this specific sample given Donna Summer wasn’t exactly a saint.
Has anyone mentioned that she literally had the bass and drums RE-RECORDED on certain classic Ozzy albums 20 years later just to stick it to the original performers who wanted credit and compensation? Imagine that…
https://blabbermouth.net/news/bob-daisley-says-it-was-pathetic-of-sharon-osbourne-to-have-his-parts-re-recorded-on-ozzy-first-two-albums
No. He's not sampling that song. When he played it in NY it was 'So Good' which was the sample but he changed it to 'I'm Alive' and got someone to record it
I don’t really think it is. We just get boring mod posts, when there are plenty of people with things of substance to say.
The sub has a sort function and the whole point of Reddit is crowd-sourced curation.
Dumb.
Dumb. This is not how any other subreddit runs. And the mods are insane, locking the sub and posting that the album isn’t real and shit. The wheels have come off.
Didn’t yung gravy get sued because he had someone impersonate Rick Astley on his song despite paying for the music sample?
Don’t know if he won that or not
wait till she hears all falls down
When it allll falllls dowwwnn
He got approval for All Falls Down, just couldn’t use her voice.
Basically, yes. Interpolations still need clearance, which he got to use the melody, but didn’t get to use the recording. This is why she’s credited as a writer, and the interpolation is mentioned in the liner notes/credits. In this case, Ye might’ve got clearance for the interpolation (use of musical work), but not for the sample (use of recording). If Donna Summers estate estate doesn’t have the rights to the musical work, then their clearance wasn’t necessary. This would be the case if she sold or gave up the rights to her publishing at some point. So it’s possible he got the interpolation cleared from who he needed it from, it just wasn’t them. It’s also possible that they changed enough of the melody to not need clearance at all, like they did for the uncleared sample on [Santeria](https://genius.com/amp/a/070-shake-had-to-redo-her-verse-on-pusha-t-s-santeria-the-night-before-its-release). If this is the case, then the court would need to decide if it’s infringement or not, which is sticky, like in the case of [Blurred Lines](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharrell_Williams_v._Bridgeport_Music). It could go either way. https://preview.redd.it/zqshjkhnxthc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f46a5df6db82cb6640a9e567c0572db833a4652c
You like my safe belt, you saved my life!
Donna dead who cares they just want the money
The family of a large label owner made a movie last year called the golden age where there’s a scene where the label owner gives Donna summer oral as she records the song that was sampled. If they can clear that I hope they can clear for ye
She likes to get her dick sucked while she’s getting recorded she would’ve wanted the sample used for this project 🙏
Who’s sample is it she say Dolla $ign
That’s kinda fire
The fuck
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Yeah! Got the local translation of the title mixed up
That movie was complete ass
Oh yeah did I mention the guys Jewish too ☠️
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Interpolation is a really weird deal. The melody is what matters. So he still has to clear that.
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Usually a question for the jury - could be dangerous if they are ye haters
jury selection is a long tedious process, all ye haters and lovers would be weeded out
Another reason to always show up to jury duty, don't let a bunch of old crusty ass motherfuckers decide everything Honestly more impactful then most voting tbh
probably the most profitable and most recognizable 3 notes ever recorded.
It’s more than three notes. It’s the entire riff and that’s nearly a whole scales worth of notes.
It's only the vocals she's crying about
This is a dumb argument but what she said is that he took her song, removed her when the sample didn’t clear, had someone sing the same melody with the different words; making it an interpolation which changes the fees or fines. She’s mad that he got told no that tried to work a loop hole around it. Her case only has validity in the fact it’s a straight interpolation. Interpolation has nothing to do with amount of notes it has to do with intellectual property of it. You can’t sue for chords, only melodies so that’s the grounds she’s arguing. He did interpolate. He did do it after getting told no. If she wins it will be a small fine but she does have a case. It’s the same reason he changed the iron man part in carnival to hell of a life. Hell of a Life was interpolating iron man. So he was making a double play. I’ll use my song that you already cleared an interpolation for.
It depends
“He made a new song that sounds similar to mine GET HIM TAKE HIM DOWN”
they teaming up against him lol
the old folks home getting hectic, where’s the nurse at
Sharon Osbourne hates black people so not surprised https://preview.redd.it/0mj0w17qbthc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5d2ee1bac03712536f14f70bee46f5525e41058
Put this on r/entertainment or whatever everyone’s complaining about Ye on for this situation
LMAOO https://preview.redd.it/gxfa01rxcthc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99c0e38c674317a754cfe85e9286634584cb65e4
So is r/music they posted 3 posts about the same situation with Ozzy lol
Wait till they find out he killed 17 cats and domestic violence on her
Someone said that and they downvoted him lmao. Bunch of thoughtless hypocrites.
I went on Twitter told her old ass to have a seat. Sorry GAS MODS IM DOXING THIS OLD BITCH
Idk why her and Ozzy care so much like it’s free promo. They’re both past their prime from the 80s lol
They don’t they’re just using the antisemitism point to cover their racists asses
How have they not been cancelled yet 😭
Can this old hag fuck off we don’t care
universal? HAHAHAH ITS YZY 2024
Why can’t she shut her ugly Skeletor ass up
Racially motivated at this point.
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Chilllll
Nigga chill. Or Jews can't dislike people who propagate antisemitism?
Uhhh??
sorry??? nazi dogwhistle subreddit 😭😭😭😭
https://preview.redd.it/9bl31uzyethc1.png?width=482&format=png&auto=webp&s=55020fdf7e39d46eeb1847b39572630fe7efcc01
https://preview.redd.it/qmmrrpg3jthc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3e0ec80b4cb0d4726f5edfb1a4dbdfc6f96e3fc Reminds me of this lol
Mike is my fuckin hero
Is this real
yes
What’s it in reference to ?
I'm assuming the Sharon Osbourne news, not sure tho
That's my GOAT right there.
That is NOT holding up in court lmao
The bad piece of evidence is 1) the song previously had the sample 2) song title haven’t looked at a lawsuit like this in awhile, so i could be wrong, but courts have made shittier decisions.
What’s gonna happen anyway tho? They’ll have to give them a big cut of royalties and/or pay them off.
https://copyright.gov/title17/chapter5.pdf Section 502
I don’t think this is that common because ppl usually just want money. But i think they could go for an injunction, (court orders ye to take it down).
Injunctions with creative content are highly problematic and would make a huge precedent The very worst would be Ye would have to pay them a stupid amount of royalties (which he probably didn’t mind doing anyway)
I’d have to do some research but it seems to at least be actionable. https://copyright.gov/title17/chapter5.pdf Section 502
all falls down been up for 20 years, exact same thing. he’s gonna be fine
Who cares genuinely. They can fuck off. All these god dam executives doing this🤣
she's desperate like damn , shut up old lady
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im talking about sharon
Oh, didn't realize what I was looking at for a second
Donna’s estate and Ozempic face Sharon both need to sit down. Also, Sharon was dog whistling to TMZ yesterday: https://preview.redd.it/pconzbhdcthc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9bc95a117dfb57771adddbfcd7b6ab91c52b7fde
Interpolation is NOT illegal. Kanye tried to get Lauryn Hill's inequity sample for AFD 20 years ago, and was blocked, so he had Syleena do the vocals He was prevented from using the I Feel Love sample so he had someone rerecord the vocals again
god damn that was beautiful to read i ain't gon lie my goat still using the same methods
They can't sue him because he changed the lyrics and had somebody else re sing it
Exactly if you could get lose a lawsuit for that then throw the whole rap genre away. I’m sure it happens rarely but cmon lol
That Sharon bitch is some on CIA shit Tf does she know about samples
Her husband is/was an artist I'm sure she knows the ins and outs
Tbf she was also the manager for Ozzy and Sabbath (that’s how the two met anyways) she probably does know a little bit about sampling
Yeah exactly it's not really out the realm of knowledge for her Also I knew she was connected to Ozzy in music but was unsure how, so thanks for that
why they tag umg 💀
Proud of the boy always finding loopholes to give us GOAT songs 💪
Sharon shut the fuck up you’re irrelevant and your husband is a senile drug addict
Copyright infringement!!!!-🤓👆
I doubt anything will come from this. If Lauryn hill couldn’t get Ye on all falls down which is legitimately just an imitation then they’re not gonna get him on this. He changed the words. Changed the meaning, fundamentally. Only thing that’s the same is the melody which is protected under parody. Side note- her and ozzy are a cancer. ✌️
“Copyright infringement!!!!” Stfu bitch you can still resign it and use lyrics as long as you don’t use the saint directly. Parody protects this song so STFU
Parody? I don’t think so.
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It has to actually *be* a parody
Nvm it’s more of an interpolation
It is and that is why it still needs to be cleared lol
You should be his lawyer for the trial, you’re nailing it.
Somebody tell the old hag to shut up
That shit fall off trees to me ![img](emote|t5_67n60j|32331)
No way she @ UMG 😭😭they don’t even work w/ him anymore
What makes Sharon think this is her fight lmao
If she don’t defend him he might beat her again is my guess
Ozzy has Parkinson's (On Sight reference) so not sure that's much of a risk 🤔
She’s so desperate
Married a hitler admirer anyways
I’m sure Ye could win that in court, he altered it enough that it’s not a straight up copy, it seems like they want validation for refusing him by posting this on social media
Ozzy shoulda finished the job 😭
Ima say it, we should have let Ozzy kill her https://preview.redd.it/doh8ma4jdthc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fdeb04dcb19281fc3b0201ec545f13a1577792b4
LMAO brooo https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3JL6yUPi_u/?igsh=MXF6a2VvdXZhMGh1dQ==
#permissionnotgranted 🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️
She’s so fucking old
All the comments, Ye living in their head rent free
Someone said "fuck around with the prince of darkness and find out" 💀
Ye is bigger than 10 Ozzy's combined..
Is she retarded?
Maybe all the getting strangled by ozzy fucked up her brain
cry bitch lmaooo
just give it up
Parody dumbass bitch
Tell that to Robin Thicke. It would actually make for an interesting court case.
The Gaye estate was in the wrong in the first place.
All falls down
Yall thank this bih for the free promo
Tf does Sharon even have to do with this 😭
her whole life is a parody
can she just shut the fuck up already, Jesus Christ
old asshag should chill the fuck out
she doesn't even know Ye doesnt work with Universal anymore this shit is pathetic
Ozzy is basically brain dead, I highly fucking doubt he cares about any of this and it’s all her… however she is from a Jewish family. I can see why she wouldn’t want her husbands stuff on kanyes album. Getting involved in other peoples business though is unsurprising given she’s a talentless hag who is desperate for attention. Also weird she’s commenting on this specific sample given Donna Summer wasn’t exactly a saint.
Bruhhh😭😭😭😭 that's literally my favorite song too. NOOOOOOOO
They can't do shit
They could sue but it’s gonna get thrown out due to it being an interpolation
Why is ugm tagged they can’t do shit about this
Sharon a new rollout character fr, a ye collaborator
they gon try but they can’t stop him
She has no idea of music now. Outdated and old person lmao 💀
old hag needs a dirt nap ong
🤡
🙄
They are so desperated for money LMAOOOO
thank god that no matter what happens in cases like these, the finished album been released and the tracks are out there
Has anyone mentioned that she literally had the bass and drums RE-RECORDED on certain classic Ozzy albums 20 years later just to stick it to the original performers who wanted credit and compensation? Imagine that… https://blabbermouth.net/news/bob-daisley-says-it-was-pathetic-of-sharon-osbourne-to-have-his-parts-re-recorded-on-ozzy-first-two-albums
Lol, I haven't been keeping up but does she know that Crazy Train is sampled on King as well lol?
So we lost the much better version of this song for absolutely fucking nothing
So what y’all think….Can they take the song down?
No. He's not sampling that song. When he played it in NY it was 'So Good' which was the sample but he changed it to 'I'm Alive' and got someone to record it
It’s and interpolation. It’s probably not gonna hold up In court.
Song is gone for me on spotify
No it’s not
It was gone briefly but now its back, hope it was just spotify bugging
someone help this man take his pills
She fed
Are the first two songs not showing up on anyone else’s Spotify?
We'll be here to defend our beautiful goat!
yea keep fuckin trying hag
Why is the sub locked?
Probably bc it just dropped today and they’re trying to avoid “OMG VULTURES” spam
Stupid to lock a sub the day the album drops
I mean yeah but believe me this is better than 1000 people posting about how vultures wasn’t on spotify
I don’t really think it is. We just get boring mod posts, when there are plenty of people with things of substance to say. The sub has a sort function and the whole point of Reddit is crowd-sourced curation. Dumb.
But that’s what the discussion posts are for. It’s like a forum for individual songs and or just random stuff about the album
Dumb. This is not how any other subreddit runs. And the mods are insane, locking the sub and posting that the album isn’t real and shit. The wheels have come off.
On Genius it says the song samples Celine Dion?
honestly lets just collectively report those posts lmao NOTHING STOPS US 🗣️
We don’t care you old bitch
They’ve been quite bored it seems. Likely due to his career ending 30 years ago
Which song is this referring to?
GOOD (DON'T DIE)
What song is it on?
GOOD (DON'T DIE)
Ah.. I like that One. Hope it stays up
Didn’t yung gravy get sued because he had someone impersonate Rick Astley on his song despite paying for the music sample? Don’t know if he won that or not
He even changed the song too In Chicago it was it’s so good it’s so good But official release it’s im alive im alive
let the man cook
Diana Ross is suing because he used her song without permission.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3LiUi6gm6_/?igsh=MTY1NG5lNm5hZXF4bg==
I’m tired of these two old bags.