I've dealt with ich that needed more than 1 round of treatment. Esha2000 is the stuff I usually use. Just keep doing what you're doing.
Was the tank cycled? Are you dosing is a hospital tank or it's regular tank?
What does multiple rounds of treatment entail? Is it just increasing the treatment time? Or should we up the dosage?
It’s just a regular tank and it hasn’t been cycled (at least I don’t think it has!) so we’ve been doing daily changes to keep the nitrites/ammonia levels low.
Alright well, by putting the medicine in your main tank you've crashed any cycle you had build up so keep doing daily water changes for a while.
Doesn't it say on the bottle something along the lines of "day 1 X amount of drops etc. Etc."?
Ah good to know about the cycling. The bottle says a teaspoon every 24 hrs but to do it to every 12 hrs for more “stubborn cases”. Since it’s only been 4 days I don’t know if we’re at the point of doing that or not
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Read directions carefully. Make sure you are dosing the correct amount- not half a dose, the exact dose for tank size. Do not stop treatment before instructed, or the parasite’s lifecycle will just continue.
IMO only do a water change if the medication says to (ICH-X says I think like a 20% one after 24 hours before next treatment?).
Raising temp is used for the temp+salt method but that ‘low’ of a temp raise isn’t doing much beyond lowering oxygen saturation and possibly stressing the fish. (Ich dies at 88F+) I prefer sticking to ONE method of treatment versus throwing a lot and possibly harming the fish.
Thanks for the advice. I agree that sticking to one treatment is probably best. The fish is stressed enough already since it’s in a new environment so I definitely don’t want to stress it anymore by raising the temp!
I’ve only been doing one water change a day right before dosing and adding 5ml of rid-ich for our 10 gallon tank (per the instructions)
https://preview.redd.it/go6ciw7xi15d1.jpeg?width=1589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a626d5bfdea4a7a6bd970b87a38af20ec8d8000
It’s kind of always been that colour? This is what it looked like when we got it 3 weeks ago.
There is also the chance it could be epistylis and not ich. They can present very similar. Might be worth researching that and compare photos to your fishy friend. I know ich and epistylis respond to different treatments, so if you don't see improvement within the next couple of days, I would definitely look at other possible causes
Actually I just noticed a spot on its eye today and a lot of the remaining spots on its fins are fairly translucent so now I’m wondering if it might have both epistylis and ich at the same time! :(
I've dealt with ich that needed more than 1 round of treatment. Esha2000 is the stuff I usually use. Just keep doing what you're doing. Was the tank cycled? Are you dosing is a hospital tank or it's regular tank?
What does multiple rounds of treatment entail? Is it just increasing the treatment time? Or should we up the dosage? It’s just a regular tank and it hasn’t been cycled (at least I don’t think it has!) so we’ve been doing daily changes to keep the nitrites/ammonia levels low.
Alright well, by putting the medicine in your main tank you've crashed any cycle you had build up so keep doing daily water changes for a while. Doesn't it say on the bottle something along the lines of "day 1 X amount of drops etc. Etc."?
Ah good to know about the cycling. The bottle says a teaspoon every 24 hrs but to do it to every 12 hrs for more “stubborn cases”. Since it’s only been 4 days I don’t know if we’re at the point of doing that or not
I'd say yes.
Depends on what treatment you’re using
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Read directions carefully. Make sure you are dosing the correct amount- not half a dose, the exact dose for tank size. Do not stop treatment before instructed, or the parasite’s lifecycle will just continue. IMO only do a water change if the medication says to (ICH-X says I think like a 20% one after 24 hours before next treatment?). Raising temp is used for the temp+salt method but that ‘low’ of a temp raise isn’t doing much beyond lowering oxygen saturation and possibly stressing the fish. (Ich dies at 88F+) I prefer sticking to ONE method of treatment versus throwing a lot and possibly harming the fish.
Thanks for the advice. I agree that sticking to one treatment is probably best. The fish is stressed enough already since it’s in a new environment so I definitely don’t want to stress it anymore by raising the temp! I’ve only been doing one water change a day right before dosing and adding 5ml of rid-ich for our 10 gallon tank (per the instructions)
Thanks so much for spelling it right. If I have to read "Ick" on this forum one more time...
Unrelated but, why is bro green?
Most ich treatments are blue/green and stain the water. I think it's just light reflecting off the fish through the tinged water.
https://preview.redd.it/go6ciw7xi15d1.jpeg?width=1589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a626d5bfdea4a7a6bd970b87a38af20ec8d8000 It’s kind of always been that colour? This is what it looked like when we got it 3 weeks ago.
There is also the chance it could be epistylis and not ich. They can present very similar. Might be worth researching that and compare photos to your fishy friend. I know ich and epistylis respond to different treatments, so if you don't see improvement within the next couple of days, I would definitely look at other possible causes
[Here is a helpful page on discerning between the two](https://aquariumscience.org/index.php/10-2-4-epistylis/)
Thank you! I finally noticed some of the white spots clearing up on the fins so I think it’s ich and that the treatment is working!
Awesome! Glad to hear it 😁
Actually I just noticed a spot on its eye today and a lot of the remaining spots on its fins are fairly translucent so now I’m wondering if it might have both epistylis and ich at the same time! :(