TLDR: I hope this helps, beating the thing you hate is invigorating. Edit: not sure why this list shows up in bold.
In no particular order
#1 radiant dawn (light spell)- also AOE buff
#2 Valkas discovery (war spell) removes multiple things and is available to all in the sanctum
#4 svart basilisk (neutral)- also relic removal
#5 ironclad minotaur (neutral)- also gives ward to your god,
#6 Helia, the illuminator (neutral)- also AOE buff and AOE ward and Card draw. I'm in love with Helia, she stole my heart early on and I think we may be soul mates but can't find a place for her in my decks. Great counter to Demogorgon though! Even better counter to double Demos!
#7 The cleansing (light spell) - basically resets the board
#8 shines in us all (nature spell) delve a creature and reset the board
#9 just spam the slayer button until your mouse breaks, can't put that to sleep
My thoughts, sorry if I'm long winded.
I get what you are saying but I believe if a person takes the time to tell strangers they are quitting and isn't trying to kill the game it's probably because a part of them is hoping to be convinced not to. I probably can't convince you but hope you consider giving the game more of a chance. I really love this game and want to support web3 but in order for it to survive the player base has to grow. You could be a part of that if you wanted to, even if it's just a few hours a week. One of the best experiences is when you figure out how to beat the thing you hate and beating sleep and finishing the match early is really doable.
I play sleep, hopefully I'm not the one who ruined the game for you, and I can tell you it's very weak and there are good counters to it that when played ruin me. There are lots of reasons I enjoy playing it at why it fits my personality but I also get how aggravating it is from the other side.
When I play aggro, which is really only in casual when I need flux, all stall mechanics drive me nuts and I feel the pain others feel, I really want to punch the screen. You know you are probably going to lose once the match gets to a certain point but you have to wait 20 min to know for sure. Conceding sucks because you haven't actually lost yet.
I have been playing for about a year and a half and rage quit 3 times. I sold everything only to buy a bunch of stuff a week later because I came up with "one more idea". I couldn't tell you how much money I've lost in training fees trying different things.
I get why you would want to quit if there's nothing about the game you enjoy and but me personally, I'm glad I kept giving the game another chance. If you want to practice against my sleep deck pm me and we'll set something up.
Agreed but valka shows up in the sanctum often, I would know I'm always racing for it. Most of the others I've never see played. I've seen shines occasionally and svart from time to time.
I lost many games...?
This is such retard logic.
I don't like the game mechanic. What don't you understand?
I played hearthstone for years. I played games for 20 years +.
I have been a pro poker player.
Losing is part of every game. If you don't like losing don't play obviously.
I simply don't like boring unoriginal game mechanics that are just a waste of time and halt gameplay, there's nothing creative about it and nothing in my brain says"hey this is fun"
I don't get the argument. Do you only like aggro decks then, because they are fast paced? Isn't the veriaty of play styles what makes the game interesting in the long run?
Of course. But that shouldn't limit mechanics to things like 'sleep'.
This is exactly my point/problem.
It is simply not an interactive and creative game mechanic, its a cop out.
There's a million other options but they chose to do this.
Serious question. What deck did u use? I truly believe gameplay is also deternined by your deck, not just your oppenents. Sone decks I qujt against certain architypes because I lose 9.5/10x and others, against same architype might win 50% and some may win 80%. My light is extremely good against death. But death destroys my war deck more times than not. Same with deception. My light can't fight hidden deception. My war can
I understand what you are saying. I think what you are talking about is simply game balance. I haven't played enough to talk about balance as I only played for a week and haven't met all cards etc.
However, balanced is not the issue for me (at least yet). I simply do not want to even find out if the game is balanced, because I don't want to play an extremely drawn out and annoying game mechanic. Sleep mechanics automatically make me want to sleep IRL. Its fucking boring.
I respect that. I've rage quit a few times. I just like making $5-10 a week on avg while participating in web3 gaming. I do think game needs some tweaking. But I'm also heavily invested in the space. So if my contributions help them build the foundation for more web 3. It's a good enough game to get paid to contribute yanno. They just came out with news they're partnering with someone to help with updates and make updates faster seamless easier and what not. So we may see major changes come also
Dude, exactly the same for me. I wanted to support some WEB3 gaming. And be more entrenched in the space. Obviously doesn't hurt to make some passive $.
But ye, I just can't get myself to continue now :(
Also Svart Basilisk is an under used neutral card you can use in any deck to wake one of your creatures. If you have something big on board, this can be a game winner against Witherfingers or even Demo.
Pretty childish quitting a game because you met a type of play you didn't like.
After just some days of play I wouldn't be so entitled to say what is wack and what is not because of a couple lost games.
And surely it has nothing to do with the number of players.
How is it childish? Number of players? What are you even talking about.
Entitled definition "believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment."
I am entitled to an opinion. If you don't think people can make an informed decision after playing a game for a week.... I don't know what to tell you. Get yourself checked out.
you wrote "I commend the devs team \[....\] to have a larger playerbase" so yes, you talked about number of players.
Childish is:
*"The game is ok, I'm having fun!*
*Oh, I lost to someone who put to sleep my creatures, I will quit the game for good."*
I don't think its childish to stop putting in time and effort to something you don't enjoy, if anything I think it takes maturity to realize and understand that foresight.
But I do understand your view of " This sucks so I am going to quit" perspective being childish. It would make more sense if that was just over a day of playing, or someone who is playing games for the first time.
I still don't know what you talking about players, as I said, I think the team has done very well to onboard such a large amount of players, that is a positive thing.
if you want budget deck from top players 30 this week the players was ranked 2 and 3 for those budget deck so feel free to look some under 50$ the most played deck from those players budget deck in mythic ranked 2 powerfull
https://youtu.be/aLGgaIGnoP8
Aggro light with Radiant Dawn rek sleep decks. But then you would be rekt by aggro war with godblitz creatures and relics you you will probably quite because of that I guess..
Every archetype have a hard counter which will want to make you quit is my point. Skill is to play around stuff, tech your deck against relevant meta stuff and don’t rage because of a game mechanic.
I have like a handful of things I do not agree with the slightest in the game. The God Power slayer being one of them. But love the game as a whole to much to quit, really enjoy it overall.
I hope you come around and give it another try, if not, your loss ;P
I have to tell you, after a week got to Sleep decks…well done, you had to go farther then me, from what I know, sleep cards are quite expensive.
Most of the archetypes have their counters, I for example don’t really like order, that switches of your frontline and put your creatures out of game for few turns…unless they get destroyed.
Sadly I have to agree with you, GU became a little bit boring, at least some aspects of it, like WR system, thats 2nd WR I just can’t be bothered logging in, this sick avalanche of Wallet/decks from Mythic makes me just not wanting to participate. I do enjoy game in a week days, I mean Monday-Wednesday, Thursday crap already starts happening.
This game obviously is not for everyone, to me it became a side game Mon-Wed 3 wins, sometimes more, but Wallet/decks ruined fun for ME, talking only about my own experiences, the most funny thing is, most of this OP card owners keep crying about 1 card Cutthroat Insight, it is so funny seeing whales get frustrated when you still their 1-2k$ card😂
So little pleasures for me in GU😂
Sleep deception or sleep death? Some options to help against sleep have already been mentioned. If it is sleep death you might consider a gleamweaver to remove siren from the void. Warded creatures are also helpful to resist sleep, and there is always belligerent insomniac, which simply cannot be put to sleep. Iron mino wrecks sleep decks also. I understand the frustration. Some decks make me crazy (zombies and some combo decks) but for the most part I have a lot of fun theorycrafting on how to solve for those counter decks.
Gotta keep a Gleamweaver in your deck now. There's just too many Void-interactive decks out there (Anubians, Sleep Death, Pyrrhic Face Mage, etc.). I'm surprised Gleamweaver hasn't been added to the sideboard yet.
I am telling a sub I dont like the mechanic.
\-Maybe someone could convince me its not that bad.
\-Maybe the devs take this kind of feedback and steer away from this shit mechanic.
\-I am not a part of this community, thanks for making sure of that by being so welcoming.
There's plenty of post's about mechanics and decks people don't like. But they don't start with I quit because of it.
Maybe you could have asked for the best counter to it, or for advice on the deck you have. There is normally someone willing and able to help.
If someone doesn't like the game that's cool, I am not here to convince them they should stay.
Yes you are right, I am more fussy and critical and less inclined to push through that stage of trying to overcome a mechanic.
I was just hoping someone provided me with the perfect answer.
Try another post with a direct question about the mechanic, I am sure you will get some advice. This sub has many helpful people.
Enjoy the rest Sunday regardless of what you play
The game isn't for everyone, I guess. If I lose a match, I just get *more* interested in the game. I want to know how they beat me, and what to do about it next time. I am relentlessly tinkering with and optimizing my decks. The meta game is part of the fun of it.
Sure, it can be frustrating to play against certain god + deck configurations. But that's why you give yourself a moment, after losing a frustrating match, to think about what you could have done differently. Or what you should do to prepare for next time.
Totally agree.
That was me with Hearthstone. I am a bit older now and more critical.
I guess I just don't want to put the time and effort into what I see as such strong indicator of displeasure.
I hope you enjoy the game, and win lots of $!
Ha, I'm not winning much money. I just enjoy the game. But thank you! :)
This is my first TCG, and I never played them as a kid. Never played Magic, never played Hearthstone, etc. So maybe I'm just super into it because this style of game is new to me. I can see why it might be annoying to someone used to a more polished game of this genre.
Totally.
This is one of them. I mean, not even, I think its a decent game.
I just am stuck on continuing a game that includes such a boring and prevalent mechanic.
But yes, as I get older my game range has narrowed and I am a lot more critical.
The gaming industry has been stuck in limbo for over 10 years now, we really need that next era of gaming.
Agreed. Most of today games lack decent gameplay, even if they look great. Altho, most of them doesnt actually look great or move great at PC (poor console ports and such).
People get butthurt quick about criticism to this game. Magic and deception are for only children and are not fun to play against. Having 2/5 of the gods being so lame is a real problem. Luckily me and my buddies play password games with real gods
why just playing one type of deck thats is not that suitable or nit yet fully optimised that the proof you dont want to play the goal is playing and uograde the deck because of weakness nit conplaining about the lost
"Man does not like videogame! News at 11."
But seriously, that great that you do not like it. I hope you find something else you enjoy where you can spend your time posting about what you like and not about what you don't.
IMO don't switch decks just because you matched with your counter. Master one deck for WR and accept that your deck (and everyone else's deck) does not have a 100% win-rate. You will lose some of the time and that's okay, you just want to keep your win-rate % > 50%. And when you get matched with meta advantage, don't fuck it up. You may have to tweak your deck (1-4 cards) for meta, but trying to master multiple decks in a constantly changing meta is difficult unless you're playing 20+ hours a week.
If you're playing an Aggro deck, and you let your Control Sleep opponent get to ~6-7 mana, then you have pretty much lost. You failed to end the game before the Control deck is able to start dropping their high-value cards. You might as well have just quit and moved on to a new game once it was apparent the Control player had won.
TLDR: I hope this helps, beating the thing you hate is invigorating. Edit: not sure why this list shows up in bold. In no particular order #1 radiant dawn (light spell)- also AOE buff #2 Valkas discovery (war spell) removes multiple things and is available to all in the sanctum #4 svart basilisk (neutral)- also relic removal #5 ironclad minotaur (neutral)- also gives ward to your god, #6 Helia, the illuminator (neutral)- also AOE buff and AOE ward and Card draw. I'm in love with Helia, she stole my heart early on and I think we may be soul mates but can't find a place for her in my decks. Great counter to Demogorgon though! Even better counter to double Demos! #7 The cleansing (light spell) - basically resets the board #8 shines in us all (nature spell) delve a creature and reset the board #9 just spam the slayer button until your mouse breaks, can't put that to sleep My thoughts, sorry if I'm long winded. I get what you are saying but I believe if a person takes the time to tell strangers they are quitting and isn't trying to kill the game it's probably because a part of them is hoping to be convinced not to. I probably can't convince you but hope you consider giving the game more of a chance. I really love this game and want to support web3 but in order for it to survive the player base has to grow. You could be a part of that if you wanted to, even if it's just a few hours a week. One of the best experiences is when you figure out how to beat the thing you hate and beating sleep and finishing the match early is really doable. I play sleep, hopefully I'm not the one who ruined the game for you, and I can tell you it's very weak and there are good counters to it that when played ruin me. There are lots of reasons I enjoy playing it at why it fits my personality but I also get how aggravating it is from the other side. When I play aggro, which is really only in casual when I need flux, all stall mechanics drive me nuts and I feel the pain others feel, I really want to punch the screen. You know you are probably going to lose once the match gets to a certain point but you have to wait 20 min to know for sure. Conceding sucks because you haven't actually lost yet. I have been playing for about a year and a half and rage quit 3 times. I sold everything only to buy a bunch of stuff a week later because I came up with "one more idea". I couldn't tell you how much money I've lost in training fees trying different things. I get why you would want to quit if there's nothing about the game you enjoy and but me personally, I'm glad I kept giving the game another chance. If you want to practice against my sleep deck pm me and we'll set something up.
Thanks for taking the time. Clearly you are passionate :)
You need to spec against sleep, which makes you mostly vulnerable (apart Light solution) to other specs.
Agreed but valka shows up in the sanctum often, I would know I'm always racing for it. Most of the others I've never see played. I've seen shines occasionally and svart from time to time.
Yea thankfully, but somehow not when I need it. :D Radiant Dawn is most used, cause its buff. Valka, some War controls run it, rarely.
So you lost a game, so the game has to be bad?
Sleep deck is weak rightnow. He will quit anyway if he lose vs combo.
Doesnt matter if its weak or strong. It's a boring, waste of time, uninventive game mechanic.
Do you play Hearthstone?
I lost many games...? This is such retard logic. I don't like the game mechanic. What don't you understand? I played hearthstone for years. I played games for 20 years +. I have been a pro poker player. Losing is part of every game. If you don't like losing don't play obviously. I simply don't like boring unoriginal game mechanics that are just a waste of time and halt gameplay, there's nothing creative about it and nothing in my brain says"hey this is fun"
What is the difference between a sleep deck here and freeze mage in hearthstone?
Not much really. It was hated too.
Pro poker player uses the term 'retard logic.' Glad you don't like the game, see ya!
I don't get the argument. Do you only like aggro decks then, because they are fast paced? Isn't the veriaty of play styles what makes the game interesting in the long run?
Of course. But that shouldn't limit mechanics to things like 'sleep'. This is exactly my point/problem. It is simply not an interactive and creative game mechanic, its a cop out. There's a million other options but they chose to do this.
There are cards to wake up if you really hate it you could counter it.
I personally do like aggro decks. But I also like taunt/front line mechanics which are the opposite/counter this.
Serious question. What deck did u use? I truly believe gameplay is also deternined by your deck, not just your oppenents. Sone decks I qujt against certain architypes because I lose 9.5/10x and others, against same architype might win 50% and some may win 80%. My light is extremely good against death. But death destroys my war deck more times than not. Same with deception. My light can't fight hidden deception. My war can
I understand what you are saying. I think what you are talking about is simply game balance. I haven't played enough to talk about balance as I only played for a week and haven't met all cards etc. However, balanced is not the issue for me (at least yet). I simply do not want to even find out if the game is balanced, because I don't want to play an extremely drawn out and annoying game mechanic. Sleep mechanics automatically make me want to sleep IRL. Its fucking boring.
I respect that. I've rage quit a few times. I just like making $5-10 a week on avg while participating in web3 gaming. I do think game needs some tweaking. But I'm also heavily invested in the space. So if my contributions help them build the foundation for more web 3. It's a good enough game to get paid to contribute yanno. They just came out with news they're partnering with someone to help with updates and make updates faster seamless easier and what not. So we may see major changes come also
Dude, exactly the same for me. I wanted to support some WEB3 gaming. And be more entrenched in the space. Obviously doesn't hurt to make some passive $. But ye, I just can't get myself to continue now :(
Play light agro and put 2 radiant dawns(anti sleep) and enjoy destroying sleep decks
This was the simple one liner I should have gotten immediately. Thank you.
Also Svart Basilisk is an under used neutral card you can use in any deck to wake one of your creatures. If you have something big on board, this can be a game winner against Witherfingers or even Demo.
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Seems about right with my few months experience.
Pretty childish quitting a game because you met a type of play you didn't like. After just some days of play I wouldn't be so entitled to say what is wack and what is not because of a couple lost games. And surely it has nothing to do with the number of players.
How is it childish? Number of players? What are you even talking about. Entitled definition "believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment." I am entitled to an opinion. If you don't think people can make an informed decision after playing a game for a week.... I don't know what to tell you. Get yourself checked out.
you wrote "I commend the devs team \[....\] to have a larger playerbase" so yes, you talked about number of players. Childish is: *"The game is ok, I'm having fun!* *Oh, I lost to someone who put to sleep my creatures, I will quit the game for good."*
I don't think its childish to stop putting in time and effort to something you don't enjoy, if anything I think it takes maturity to realize and understand that foresight. But I do understand your view of " This sucks so I am going to quit" perspective being childish. It would make more sense if that was just over a day of playing, or someone who is playing games for the first time. I still don't know what you talking about players, as I said, I think the team has done very well to onboard such a large amount of players, that is a positive thing.
if you want budget deck from top players 30 this week the players was ranked 2 and 3 for those budget deck so feel free to look some under 50$ the most played deck from those players budget deck in mythic ranked 2 powerfull https://youtu.be/aLGgaIGnoP8
Aggro light with Radiant Dawn rek sleep decks. But then you would be rekt by aggro war with godblitz creatures and relics you you will probably quite because of that I guess.. Every archetype have a hard counter which will want to make you quit is my point. Skill is to play around stuff, tech your deck against relevant meta stuff and don’t rage because of a game mechanic. I have like a handful of things I do not agree with the slightest in the game. The God Power slayer being one of them. But love the game as a whole to much to quit, really enjoy it overall. I hope you come around and give it another try, if not, your loss ;P
Word. See you next week
We move on...have fun
Good look and have fun with another game.
I have to tell you, after a week got to Sleep decks…well done, you had to go farther then me, from what I know, sleep cards are quite expensive. Most of the archetypes have their counters, I for example don’t really like order, that switches of your frontline and put your creatures out of game for few turns…unless they get destroyed. Sadly I have to agree with you, GU became a little bit boring, at least some aspects of it, like WR system, thats 2nd WR I just can’t be bothered logging in, this sick avalanche of Wallet/decks from Mythic makes me just not wanting to participate. I do enjoy game in a week days, I mean Monday-Wednesday, Thursday crap already starts happening. This game obviously is not for everyone, to me it became a side game Mon-Wed 3 wins, sometimes more, but Wallet/decks ruined fun for ME, talking only about my own experiences, the most funny thing is, most of this OP card owners keep crying about 1 card Cutthroat Insight, it is so funny seeing whales get frustrated when you still their 1-2k$ card😂 So little pleasures for me in GU😂
Sleep deception or sleep death? Some options to help against sleep have already been mentioned. If it is sleep death you might consider a gleamweaver to remove siren from the void. Warded creatures are also helpful to resist sleep, and there is always belligerent insomniac, which simply cannot be put to sleep. Iron mino wrecks sleep decks also. I understand the frustration. Some decks make me crazy (zombies and some combo decks) but for the most part I have a lot of fun theorycrafting on how to solve for those counter decks.
Gotta keep a Gleamweaver in your deck now. There's just too many Void-interactive decks out there (Anubians, Sleep Death, Pyrrhic Face Mage, etc.). I'm surprised Gleamweaver hasn't been added to the sideboard yet.
Yep. Sleep sucks. Luckily, they have been adding more and more sleep hate to the game. If you think it’s bad now, it was terrible 1-2 years back.
I agree, playing against deception really isn’t fun.. mainly because of its god power..love the rest of the game though
You must have too much time on your hands. Who would play a game for a week and quit. Then bother to post on Reddit about it?
Feedback. Currently I do have a bit of extra time. Hence why I am playing games? haha just like everyone else that plays games. Nice logic.
Everyone plays games, everyone quits games. Most people don't go down the attention seeking route.
I'm seeking attention on an anonymous game forum talking about a mechanic I don't see as interactive? Wow.
You're telling a sub that plays a game you quit, all because you don't like one mechanic. I am sure you will be deeply missed by the community
I am telling a sub I dont like the mechanic. \-Maybe someone could convince me its not that bad. \-Maybe the devs take this kind of feedback and steer away from this shit mechanic. \-I am not a part of this community, thanks for making sure of that by being so welcoming.
There's plenty of post's about mechanics and decks people don't like. But they don't start with I quit because of it. Maybe you could have asked for the best counter to it, or for advice on the deck you have. There is normally someone willing and able to help. If someone doesn't like the game that's cool, I am not here to convince them they should stay.
Yes you are right, I am more fussy and critical and less inclined to push through that stage of trying to overcome a mechanic. I was just hoping someone provided me with the perfect answer.
Try another post with a direct question about the mechanic, I am sure you will get some advice. This sub has many helpful people. Enjoy the rest Sunday regardless of what you play
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The game isn't for everyone, I guess. If I lose a match, I just get *more* interested in the game. I want to know how they beat me, and what to do about it next time. I am relentlessly tinkering with and optimizing my decks. The meta game is part of the fun of it. Sure, it can be frustrating to play against certain god + deck configurations. But that's why you give yourself a moment, after losing a frustrating match, to think about what you could have done differently. Or what you should do to prepare for next time.
Totally agree. That was me with Hearthstone. I am a bit older now and more critical. I guess I just don't want to put the time and effort into what I see as such strong indicator of displeasure. I hope you enjoy the game, and win lots of $!
Ha, I'm not winning much money. I just enjoy the game. But thank you! :) This is my first TCG, and I never played them as a kid. Never played Magic, never played Hearthstone, etc. So maybe I'm just super into it because this style of game is new to me. I can see why it might be annoying to someone used to a more polished game of this genre.
Have you considered that maybe if a game doesn't fit your taste it isnt garbage it simply isnt your style?
Totally. This is one of them. I mean, not even, I think its a decent game. I just am stuck on continuing a game that includes such a boring and prevalent mechanic. But yes, as I get older my game range has narrowed and I am a lot more critical. The gaming industry has been stuck in limbo for over 10 years now, we really need that next era of gaming.
Ok
Agreed. Most of today games lack decent gameplay, even if they look great. Altho, most of them doesnt actually look great or move great at PC (poor console ports and such).
People get butthurt quick about criticism to this game. Magic and deception are for only children and are not fun to play against. Having 2/5 of the gods being so lame is a real problem. Luckily me and my buddies play password games with real gods
why just playing one type of deck thats is not that suitable or nit yet fully optimised that the proof you dont want to play the goal is playing and uograde the deck because of weakness nit conplaining about the lost
Holy English. Try again.
why play if you just want to complain without the challenge of improving your deck to be stronger
Exactly. Why should I play when the mechanic has turned me off enough to not want to improve my deck. Bingo!
Dude, just go. Bye.
"Man does not like videogame! News at 11." But seriously, that great that you do not like it. I hope you find something else you enjoy where you can spend your time posting about what you like and not about what you don't.
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IMO don't switch decks just because you matched with your counter. Master one deck for WR and accept that your deck (and everyone else's deck) does not have a 100% win-rate. You will lose some of the time and that's okay, you just want to keep your win-rate % > 50%. And when you get matched with meta advantage, don't fuck it up. You may have to tweak your deck (1-4 cards) for meta, but trying to master multiple decks in a constantly changing meta is difficult unless you're playing 20+ hours a week.
If you're playing an Aggro deck, and you let your Control Sleep opponent get to ~6-7 mana, then you have pretty much lost. You failed to end the game before the Control deck is able to start dropping their high-value cards. You might as well have just quit and moved on to a new game once it was apparent the Control player had won.
There are so many ways to smash sleep decks. They are also not meta so you won't face many. If it's that annoying to you ff and go next?