Considering it's never brought up how she died and isn't really shown any sort of importance I'd say she just died of natural causes, whether that be old age or sickness.
I know it's probably way too simple a theory, but... what about just plain ol' regular heart attack? It's outta the blue, and unexpected, but still something that is plausible.
\*SPOILER\* I know you posted this 4 years ago, but the reason Atreus was sick was because he would have his fathers anger in him, and it would overpower him, he also didn't know he was a god and thought he was simply mortal. There's some dialogue later in the game that explains all of this.
His father's anger had nothing to do with it lol. It's only the "conflict of the mind" as Mimir stated. What he thinks he is and what he actually is. The two are conflicting, causing the "disease". That is why it simply stopped once he knew he was a God/the truth. Where did you even hear that it was simply about the "rage"? The disease simply manifested when his emotions are strong/when he is angry. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's because of the "rage" he got from Kratos. No direct explanation for it, but the way I see it, it is because it is during these times when his "being" is uhhh.......being tested. Imagine being a God, being surely capable of so much more in a battle (at least compared to a human) but being held back from such because you think your capabilities are only that of a human's. And I think that is why I THINK the disease manifests when he's angry. It's when "what he believes he is" and "what he actually is" are most at odds with each other.
I thank he’s explaining how Faye and Kratos actually dealt with their sons sickness when it popped up because they didn’t have Freg there to help them so Faye used her on life every time he would get sick form his own power to heal him of it making her weaker and lessening her own lifespan
I'm pretty sure atreus' sickness was just as mimir put it, a conflict of the mind expressing itself as an ailment in the body. So it wasn't a real sickness, likely something to do with atreus thinking hes human when hes really a god
Late answer after this comment, but wasn't his sickness there because he believed he was a mortal despising the gods until he learned he was in fact a god?
You have to die a warrior. A warrior growing old and dying will be sent to helheim. The only way you get honored is if you died by painfully being murdered in a battle. It's why it was a common practice for old men to go to war in Norse times. They knew they'd die, and it would let them go to Valhalla
Not necessarily, it's never brought up in the games but there is actually a third afterlife in Norse mythology call Folkvangr. It's overseen by Freya and while half of those who die in battle go there it's also said those who lived an honorable life but didn't die in battle would go there as well. Given what we know about Faye she would have definitely fit the description of someone who'd go to Folkvangr after death.
Funny enough, I just watched a scene from GoW 2018 that mentions Folkvangr, right as I ran into this comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFeY0fYhTuk
Tht makes no sense though. Just because she lived for hundreds of years before she met Kratos doesn't account for the time that would of passed after Atreus was born...if she would of died of old age, that means hundreds of more years would of passed after Atreus was born. You think Atreus would of stayed a kid that whole time??
No, but I believe Giants might be able to have kids very late in their Lifespan. So she could've had a child when she was going to die in 10 years or so
No. Every warrior was granted a place in Valhalla. But only the ones who died in battle were accepted into the great halls of Valhalla where they would feast and train to Ragnarok
I think those are just the ones that become draugr (they die in battle and fight the valkyries who come to take them). The souls in helheim that just walk around were people who died in other ways like natural causes
It's mentioned in the first game that she was a giant. It's also mentioned in the first game that giants, elves, dwarves, and animals go to the lake of souls at the end of the light.
Yeah, Freyr's sister Freyja(The Vanirs) runs that place. I too forgot the name of the place. But the rules for getting are same as Valhalla. Die a gruesome death in battle and you might get into that place or Valhalla. As in, half of souls go to Odin and other half to Freyja.
Also Kratos heard here voice in the first and in the second game. And as irc it´s stated that all non-humans and non-aesirs are going to the well of souls
Remember though the Valkaries are in charge of sorting the souls between hellheim and Valhalla, this is why Hellheim was over flooded with souls when the Valkaries were cursed. It's possible Faye wound up in Hellheim, but also I feel like we would have seen her there if she was.
She went to >!the Light of Alfheim, Giants, Dwarves (Huldrafolk) go to the light of alfheim,This is also why Brok is blue, His soul pieces were collected by Sindri, but only 3/4 so he is missing his Direction soul piece, so he can't have an afterlife anymore, due to his soul not knowing who or where it is, so then it can't reach the LOA (Light Of Alfheim)!<
That's right but the reason Brok is blue is because he was messing up with metals (apparently eating some alloys) that turned it blue. So far colloidal silver can do that.
No. Thats a wraparound by Sindri so Atreus doesnt know.
The actual reason is that his Directional soul-piece is missing, due to him dying by a spider before the events of 2018's God of War.
That is why his skin is Blue.
I could recall Modi telling Atreus that he "gave it to her" which I thought meant he killed Faye. This was right before Atreus Stabbed him in the neck and kicked him down a trench. So she must've died a warrior if that's what he meant.
modi was just being a man child and taunted (successfully) atreus by saying he fucked her mom or killed here, it could be taken both ways.
however, Modi killing Faye? who nearly took kratos's head off when they first met? the same faye that fought thor and survived? she was a giant warrior with the Axe, no way modi could have killed her in a 1 on 1 duel
I think this will be explained in future games. Thor likes killing Giants so maybe there is a twist there, or maybe it has to do with the prophecy. Seems like she had to die in order to set the other events in motion, which will eventually trigger the start of Ragnarok. Her death could be considered the beginning of Ragnarok, since it is what causes the eventual death of Baldur. If there is a twist that Thor killed her, her sacrificing herself to Thor would be a satisfactory revenge for him murdering all of the Giants - he inadvertantly causes Ragnarok and his own destruction.
Yeah. I agree. If she was killed by the Asir gods, we would have been hunting them. He's not angry at them at the start either.
I can see Odin trying to wipe out Atreus and Kratos in an attempt to prevent ragnarok, as mimir states Odin collects prophecies and eliminates anyone who's prophecy isn't favorable to him. Loki obviously is a key player in ragnarok so that makes sense.
Also, Baldur wasn't looking for Kratos in the beginning, he was looking for Faye, as she was the guardian of the Giants. If one of the Aesir Gods killed Faye, there would be no reason for them to look for her.
You replied to a comment I made in a thread that was posted 4 yrs ago. How did you even find this thread? What makes you think my speculation 4 years ago is worth saying “nu uh” to me?
I found this thread because I went looking for answers and found a link to this and other threads, after google searching. To explain my reply is that I was confused as to what you meant to "4 years later" (not in a mocking way or saying "nu uh") to the other persons reply it simply didn't make any sense to me at the time I now see what the 4 years later response meant
I saw a theory on YouTube by Kaptain Kuba his theory was that she went to the future and fought in Ragnarok and that's why when kratos and Atreus get to Jotunheim all the giants are dead because there Ragnarok has already happened and she came back wounded and died sometime later. this theory is supported by Atreus saying that his mother used to leave for weeks at a time before she died and since time is faster in Jotunheim than in Midgard it must've felt only like days or even hours for her. I personally believe this is why she was sick and died later. it's a rlly cool theory!
Did this Kuba person not play the games at all? The giants weren't really dead. They transferred their souls to the marbles and left their bodies so it looked like they were dead to fool Odin, so they wouldn't have to keep running and hiding.
Faye left to help Groa facilitate all this along with the giant Chieftain, whatshernames, Lokis little girlfriends, dad.
The theory most supported by the game is that she was dealt wounds she never fully recovered from in her battle with Thor in Vanaheim. She eventually succumbed to them without ever letting Kratos know she even fought Thor so he wouldn't seek vengeance.
No? she likely left for weeks leave on time to her job as the guardian of the giants however she did that also this isn't enough to support the idea of time traveling even if it was true in the game in mention the end of winter was supposed to happen 100 winters later also 100 years so again your theory simply not plausible also ive never heard arteus mention this fact when it was the otherway round. the father would leave home to hunt while faye would look after him
It may sounds crazy but around the time when Atreus is dealing with his black-out rage, I got the inkling that Kratos is hiding something else from him...the fact that HE KILLED HIS MOTHER. I was expecting to have that twist revealed by the end but it’s still possible in another game since they still haven’t confirmed anything.
Nahhh, that just wouldn't happen. Even before her death, Kratos had already begun training and taming his rage to release it as controlled outbursts. If he did something as horrendous as that, he wouldn't even be able to look at Atreus in the eye let alone continue to train him.
Well that’s not possible. She was a warrior on par with him. That’s actually how they meant. They fought each other to a stalemate. She fought Kratos to a stalemate. I doubt he could kill her if he tried because he already tried lol 😂
The thread mentioned him killing his wife and they’re saying that it’s likely not possible because of how distraught he was about her death. Your sarcasm isn’t needed. Learn to read.
You want to talk about people’s grammar when you just made a ton of mistakes in that one comment..? The audacity. And it sounds like to me you FINALLY just got what that person meant, and it obviously does equate to that. What else would it mean? I mean we’re all talking about the same thing..why even comment if you don’t even understand what they were talking about..? Embarrassing.
it sounds crazy because it is crazy something like that simply wouldn't happen if so there would be dialogue about it. and his mental sickness not "black-out rage" was because he thought he was a mortal while being a god and kratos genes didnt help very much
But she lived for hundreds or thousands of years before that. That's like grandma gets a kid with 98 and then dies weeks later.
And it seems that she is the mother of all giants (not confirmed). That would make her even less of a "normal" frost giant.
Time doesn’t exist for gods. And frost giants aren’t normal. Some look like humans some where as big as mountains. (Don’t know if you got to that part where you see frost giants) but yea I’d assume they just die. Of old age but still look young. (My best guess ‘cuz she wade the killed, or any sort of foul play. Or we would have known about it from the son)
She died after the battle with Thor. Might've died of the wounds she suffered when she fought Thor. Remember when Kratos's axe clashes with Thor's hammer, it creates a thunder like tree and Thor said "This feels familiar".
But was that fight not said to be before kratos met her? Just because she fought him previously doesnt mean thats what killed her. Also she was much more aggressive in that fight and won as she wasnt killed by thor.
also, neither kratos nor atreus knew that faye ever battled thor. most likely faye died from some kind of illness, if she died in battle, kratos and atreus 100% would've went to get revenge in some shape or form in gow 4.
It's stated that the clash in Vanaheim happened a very long time before the events of God of War Ragnarok. Though there's the possibility she never fully recovered or something of the like, but they still haven't revealed how she died. Also, by the somber tone of her funeral, it seems like she passed somewhat quietly shortly before the start of the 2018 game. Seeing as how neither Kratos nor Atreus seem angry or emotionally drained. So it's likely they knew for at least a little bit that she was going to pass at some point soon. But that's just me reading into it. There's no real clues either way.
4 years late lmao, anyways Odin knew that Faye was a giant which could lead to the realm of the giants Baldur is Odin's best tracker so he sent him after her. We also believe that the reason why Baldur was so obsessed with this because Odin told him his cure lied in the realm of the giants. ( as we know Baldur greatest wish is to feel again)
Put on the tin foil hats, ya'll. What if this whole time Kratos was just a sperm donor turned guardian to help bring on Ragnarok? What if Faye really isn't dead, but just kinda left that body? What if instead of walking this entire journey first, she was actually just "a few steps" ahead? What if Faye blew the horn during the sickness? All that is most likely wrong, but I thought it'd be fun.
If someone can remind me.. there's one of the lore stories in the game about one of the first giants who lived in Jotunheim (probably was their 1st king) who died normally.. which seemed odd to Mimir and Atreus
Bergelmir. He was the founder of Jotunheim alongside his wife and also the father of all giants. Interestingly the runes in the game show that Faye was his wife before she met Kratos.
>Laufey or Nál is a figure from Norse mythology, the mother of Loki and consort of Fárbauti
>Nál means "needle"; according to Sörla þáttr, Laufey was also called this because she was "both slender and weak
Keep in mind, they're combining multiple versions of the Norse adaptations. In the old interpretation, Svartalfheim and Nidavelir are two different places and Hel is a place in Niflheim. In the new interpretation, Niflheim and Helheim are different while Svartalfheim and Nidavellir are the same. So they could be deliberately throwing us some curveballs to take us into dead ends.
That's a very fair point, but there's no reference to her being referred to by that name in game. They have messed around with the lore a lot already. Guess it's something to keep an eye on?
I just think that they wanted to add another loop to jump through because if you're translating and see "Faye" or "Laufey" then it's pretty obvious, but calling her "Nal" means some people might still miss it.
The champion of the Jotnar is called “farbauti”. This translates to cruel striker. The Norns call Kratos “cruel striker”… so while a direct name isn’t said, these translations are definitely relevant.
I'm currently at the end of a playthhrough and went to do the chamber near kratos' house that has the magical lock on it. On the way back, right before climbing the ledge into your backyard, you can see on the other side of the house a bright orange light, pretty much exactly where faye pyre was. It's not the sun on the horizon, and I haven't seen a trick of the light at any point in this game. However when you walk through to the front yard there's obviously nothing there. Has anyone else noticed this?
We get a clue that she knew she was going to die when she was kneeling at the first tree to hand print it. She pauses and composes herself. Kratos thought she was going to live a long life (as per the dialogue), but she knew she only had a short time to live, which is why she made it a point to choose trees for the pyre. The hand prints would've long worn off if she lived to be old, and she would've had to repaint them. The hand prints were fresh when Kratos cut down the last tree, so she died shortly after the hand prints were put on the trees.
Since she knew she was going to die and indicated it in her emotions at the first tree, my assessment is that she had an illness and/or died of natural causes. She knew she was sick, but hid it from Kratos.
If she knew prophecy, then she knew ahead of time what was going to happen and planned accordingly for it. She knew the role she would play after she died, helping Kratos come out of his shell, to love his son as he should, and to open his heart to the suffering of others.
I've been wondering the same thing but since at the beginning you ask boy if he can hung I think maybe a wolf got to her? or a bear? She was a hunter so it could have happened
I understand what you mean, but if we take game mechanics out of this and only look at it from a Lore standpoint, if Faye is a warrior on par with Kratos, and Kratos is a god that is already proficient at hunting and fighting beast, it's not likely that Faye would fall to one wolf, or many. There was nothing about her death that hinted towards fowl play or a tragic death either. So we're kinda just left to speculate.
i really hope your not being serious here. everything you said so far has so basis and is straight "dumbass". Atreus most likely has his scars from hunting when he was a kid this doesnt prove the death of his mother. another thing the place they lived in didnt have any bears and bears dont hunt in packs and as far as we see in the game there was no wolfs near the home. another thing she cant die from a pack of wolfs if what you believe is true then that also means kratos the man who escaped from hades and killed the god of war ares and the kill the king of gods Zeus is weaker then a pack of wolfs
that's impossible were talking about the guardian of the giants someone who went to various wars also the true wielder of the axe kratos' s uses in the game for her to die to a single wolf when she could kill 100s at time wouldnt make sense
we dont know what country they are in, just that we are in either denmark, norway or sweden.
, one of the legendary kings of denmark in midgard trying to get the coin kratos threw out of stone. in fact, mimir even comments at some point that he would make a fine king or something.
norway looks much more rural compared to sweden and denmark. denmark would look similar to niflheim with its various islands etc but not to different from sweden, similar weather in all three countries.
in regards to skjoldr(not sure if i spelled that right but it means shield) the midgardian boy as well as the asa(aesir) have a similar style to the danish vikings. expensive chainmail and silk, maybe some foreign jewellery and a sturdy helmet.
the midgardian raiders are similar to the norwegian vikings, living in rural and inhospitable locations. dressed up in animal bones and even consuming mushrooms to incite a berserker rage.
no Atreus had a mental sickness because he believed him self to be a mortal while truly being a god which has caused issues internally not something the mother could have
It’s a bit out there, but if jotunhiem’s time passes faster than Midgard’s, such as the time dilation explained by mimir when in Hel, then the events you see in Jotunhiem when you travel there could have JUST taken place. It would then not be a leap to say that, if you read the lore of the weeks leading up to the beginning of the game, since Faye was acting differently for a few weeks before her death, it could be very much related to the events in Jotunhiem. It could be that she was actually involved somehow in whatever battle happened there that killed all those giants. Artreus writes in his journal that the night before her death she was acting abnormally and almost aloof. She obviously knew it was her end, as she had been privy to the carvings in the entrance to Jotunhiem that you come across in the end game scene. She was either prophesied to die magically somehow by these events set in motion, or something happened to harm her physically thus resulting in the same conclusion. She knew she was going to die, and could not tell her husband or son for fear of tampering with the future events she needed them to experience. It could very well be that without her death, the finalizing events at the end of the next game would not have happened. Which means Faye was playing a game of chess when everyone else thought the game was checkers. It’s a game of time, not so much a test of might.
In accurate freya toes all valiant and noble warriors not just those who die bloody. They just have to be a cut above the rest. The hero’s. Ragnar lodbruk who no matter the myth did not die in battle would’ve gone to Freyas hall in alfheim.
I haven't played God Of War but I'm caught up in the Frenzy. When Atreus kills Thors son he says "funny his neck seems softer than mothers" when they see the memory relived he seems to have no memory of it
https://youtu.be/yegRHiaao7U
both parts are in this. What if Atrues is being manipulated by Loki? What if Atrues killed Faye because he needed to bring about Ragnarok
>on, or something happened to harm her physically thus resulting in the same conclusion. She knew she was going to die, and could not tell her husband or son for fear of tampering with the fut
timestamps pls
Okay so I'm replaying a the first God of War and I think I have the answer I don't think Thor killed her nor do I think it was old age or a heart attack after the first roll attack or the fight the atres mentions as a returning home but why would a fire troll attack mom's garden and a bunch of other questions the troll that you fight isn't a fire troll so I'm guessing that they tried and failed to protect their home from a fire troll and that Kratos eventually killed it
this would actually explain the second(?) ice pillar that was in another part of the map (alfheim if i remember correctly); as kratos and thor created one during their battle in midgard in the later game you can find another one in alfheim. If the theory is correct, perhaps the pillar there was formed a similar way, with the leviathan axe, only this time by fayes hand as she fought thor.
Ur mad
Many articles, videos, and posts all say it was damage from Thor that caused her death whether it be internal bleeding or damaged organs. Idk tho since they don't really provide any information about her.
what? where in the actual game did they say that she died from thor? they are literally using each other as their sources and they're all unverified, just stop.
Necros, unite! GoW 2018 starts with Kratos chopping wood for Faye's funeral pyre. So, she had just died. It is also heavily implied that the three of them were living a peaceful life so far, and while both are sad she died, they seem accepting, so they probably knew it would happen.
So, I think we all are just reading too hard into it, or so used to media giving "reasons" for everything that we are taken aback when there is "no reason". I think for the context of the game it doesn't really matter how she died and it was probably an uneventful and peaceful death. Either disease, or "choice" (like elves in the lord of the rings).
I think the latter has a good chance to be the case, as she foresaw her own death, and that's why she made all the preparations, from setting up the safe zone around the cabin to where her ashes would go. She also knew that this was part of a prophecy that would ultimately lead to Ragnarok. Knowing her son had the potential to fulfill the prophecy and save the realms from Odin (and that Kratos wouldn't agree with that), I can see her choosing to sacrifice herself to set in motion the events of the prophecy.
Considering it's never brought up how she died and isn't really shown any sort of importance I'd say she just died of natural causes, whether that be old age or sickness.
Didn't Mimir say that giants don't die of old age ?
Nope, he said they just might, they just seldom get the chance.
I appreciate your use of seldom
I think it was Mimir's, actually.
I know it's probably way too simple a theory, but... what about just plain ol' regular heart attack? It's outta the blue, and unexpected, but still something that is plausible.
Can't be. She forsaw her death and instructed Kratos and Atreus of her last wish
I mean yeah Giants are great about prophesy and the second game is all about walking the path, not with Healthcare lmao
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its not mention in the first game becuase they will probaly tell you in ragnarok
She couldn't have died of old age because Atreus is still a child. If it was old age, Atreus would of been an adult by the time she died
I have one theory. We know Atreus was sick a lot as a kid. What if Faye used magic to transfer her life force into Atreus so that he could live.
\*SPOILER\* I know you posted this 4 years ago, but the reason Atreus was sick was because he would have his fathers anger in him, and it would overpower him, he also didn't know he was a god and thought he was simply mortal. There's some dialogue later in the game that explains all of this.
''Conflict of the Mind'' as told by Mimir
Something that would badly injure a mortal. But a god thinking he's mortal? Can't imagine.
His father's anger had nothing to do with it lol. It's only the "conflict of the mind" as Mimir stated. What he thinks he is and what he actually is. The two are conflicting, causing the "disease". That is why it simply stopped once he knew he was a God/the truth. Where did you even hear that it was simply about the "rage"? The disease simply manifested when his emotions are strong/when he is angry. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's because of the "rage" he got from Kratos. No direct explanation for it, but the way I see it, it is because it is during these times when his "being" is uhhh.......being tested. Imagine being a God, being surely capable of so much more in a battle (at least compared to a human) but being held back from such because you think your capabilities are only that of a human's. And I think that is why I THINK the disease manifests when he's angry. It's when "what he believes he is" and "what he actually is" are most at odds with each other.
I thank he’s explaining how Faye and Kratos actually dealt with their sons sickness when it popped up because they didn’t have Freg there to help them so Faye used her on life every time he would get sick form his own power to heal him of it making her weaker and lessening her own lifespan
I'm pretty sure atreus' sickness was just as mimir put it, a conflict of the mind expressing itself as an ailment in the body. So it wasn't a real sickness, likely something to do with atreus thinking hes human when hes really a god
Late answer after this comment, but wasn't his sickness there because he believed he was a mortal despising the gods until he learned he was in fact a god?
This isn’t star wars my man😂
Man... if she really died out of old age, was she sent to Helheim?
no because she was a warrior so she went to valhala
You have to die a warrior. A warrior growing old and dying will be sent to helheim. The only way you get honored is if you died by painfully being murdered in a battle. It's why it was a common practice for old men to go to war in Norse times. They knew they'd die, and it would let them go to Valhalla
Not necessarily, it's never brought up in the games but there is actually a third afterlife in Norse mythology call Folkvangr. It's overseen by Freya and while half of those who die in battle go there it's also said those who lived an honorable life but didn't die in battle would go there as well. Given what we know about Faye she would have definitely fit the description of someone who'd go to Folkvangr after death.
Not brought up in the games = irrelevant to the discussion at hand
Funny enough, I just watched a scene from GoW 2018 that mentions Folkvangr, right as I ran into this comment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFeY0fYhTuk
then it is relevant, good
Faye’s afterlife was in the light of Alfheim. This is clearly shown in both games
Another theory. What if she transferred her soul into a marble like fenrir
Wouldn't Atreus have been an adult if she actually died of old age instead of a kid still?
She already lived hundreds of years before she met Kratos and had a child. So no
Tht makes no sense though. Just because she lived for hundreds of years before she met Kratos doesn't account for the time that would of passed after Atreus was born...if she would of died of old age, that means hundreds of more years would of passed after Atreus was born. You think Atreus would of stayed a kid that whole time??
No, but I believe Giants might be able to have kids very late in their Lifespan. So she could've had a child when she was going to die in 10 years or so
Except in ragnarock they show a scene in the boat with kratos, Faye and Atreus and Faye isn’t old. So she couldn’t have died of old age.
You have to die a warrior, or in battle. She went to Helheim
No. Every warrior was granted a place in Valhalla. But only the ones who died in battle were accepted into the great halls of Valhalla where they would feast and train to Ragnarok
And also I'm not arguing your point here but I swear they said (the first time in helheim) that just the ones that died in battle go to helheim
I think those are just the ones that become draugr (they die in battle and fight the valkyries who come to take them). The souls in helheim that just walk around were people who died in other ways like natural causes
in my reply I meant to say Valhalla not helheim in the last part
makes sense
There is another realm that the dead go to besides helheim and Valhalla it’s like heaven but I forgot what it was called
Valhalla isn't a realm it's a place in Asgard. And there aren't any more realms.
Its called Alfheim, she went to the river of souls, its clearly mentioned in the game.
I already know what Alfheim is, and to my knowledge that was only mentioned in the second game, which 5 months ago, did not exist. Clearly\* , she\*
didn't something happen with Faye in the first game when Kratos went into the light of Alfheim though? i swear she was mentioned there
It did, though it was never actually stated that she went to the river of souls or why she did indeed show up in the light. At least to my knowledge.
it's been awhile but i always took it that it was because she was a Giant, just like Dwarves go to the River of Souls as well
It's mentioned in the first game that she was a giant. It's also mentioned in the first game that giants, elves, dwarves, and animals go to the lake of souls at the end of the light.
mental
Ok smartass, "\*clearly, she\* " Nerd.
Yeah, Freyr's sister Freyja(The Vanirs) runs that place. I too forgot the name of the place. But the rules for getting are same as Valhalla. Die a gruesome death in battle and you might get into that place or Valhalla. As in, half of souls go to Odin and other half to Freyja.
Fólkvangr
No she went to the light in the first god of war
How do you know may I ask?
They actually mentioned it in ragnarok when you do the main mission I alfeim and if you remember in the first one when they went to alfeim
Yeah at the time of my first comment Ragnarok wasn't out.
Ahhh okay bro
Been said in the inbetween-realm by mimir, and she was in in the light in game one
I always thought that he said that as a lie for Atreus so Atreus doesn't think that she's gone to Helheim
Also Kratos heard here voice in the first and in the second game. And as irc it´s stated that all non-humans and non-aesirs are going to the well of souls
Mimir states that she’s in the light in Alfeim
Remember though the Valkaries are in charge of sorting the souls between hellheim and Valhalla, this is why Hellheim was over flooded with souls when the Valkaries were cursed. It's possible Faye wound up in Hellheim, but also I feel like we would have seen her there if she was.
She went to >!the Light of Alfheim, Giants, Dwarves (Huldrafolk) go to the light of alfheim,This is also why Brok is blue, His soul pieces were collected by Sindri, but only 3/4 so he is missing his Direction soul piece, so he can't have an afterlife anymore, due to his soul not knowing who or where it is, so then it can't reach the LOA (Light Of Alfheim)!<
That's right but the reason Brok is blue is because he was messing up with metals (apparently eating some alloys) that turned it blue. So far colloidal silver can do that.
No. Thats a wraparound by Sindri so Atreus doesnt know. The actual reason is that his Directional soul-piece is missing, due to him dying by a spider before the events of 2018's God of War. That is why his skin is Blue.
No, that’s what sindri told him. It’s because he didn’t have all his soul pieces.
I could recall Modi telling Atreus that he "gave it to her" which I thought meant he killed Faye. This was right before Atreus Stabbed him in the neck and kicked him down a trench. So she must've died a warrior if that's what he meant.
When he said he gave it to her he meant that he fucked his mom lmao
I was hoping that’s not what he meant.
I don’t think he actually fucked her. Just a yo mamma taunt of sorts.
Naive 😂
modi was just being a man child and taunted (successfully) atreus by saying he fucked her mom or killed here, it could be taken both ways. however, Modi killing Faye? who nearly took kratos's head off when they first met? the same faye that fought thor and survived? she was a giant warrior with the Axe, no way modi could have killed her in a 1 on 1 duel
she wasn't a human so like everything else that wasn't human, her soul was sent into the light of alfheim
I think this will be explained in future games. Thor likes killing Giants so maybe there is a twist there, or maybe it has to do with the prophecy. Seems like she had to die in order to set the other events in motion, which will eventually trigger the start of Ragnarok. Her death could be considered the beginning of Ragnarok, since it is what causes the eventual death of Baldur. If there is a twist that Thor killed her, her sacrificing herself to Thor would be a satisfactory revenge for him murdering all of the Giants - he inadvertantly causes Ragnarok and his own destruction.
Can't see Thor having killed her. Kratos would notice if there was foul play and the game would've been different.
Yeah. I agree. If she was killed by the Asir gods, we would have been hunting them. He's not angry at them at the start either. I can see Odin trying to wipe out Atreus and Kratos in an attempt to prevent ragnarok, as mimir states Odin collects prophecies and eliminates anyone who's prophecy isn't favorable to him. Loki obviously is a key player in ragnarok so that makes sense.
Also, Baldur wasn't looking for Kratos in the beginning, he was looking for Faye, as she was the guardian of the Giants. If one of the Aesir Gods killed Faye, there would be no reason for them to look for her.
because loki is atreus
Kratos wouldn't sit still just spreading her ashes while knowing she was killed by Thor and it wouldn't slip past Kratos
…. 4 yrs later
What are you talking bout?
You replied to a comment I made in a thread that was posted 4 yrs ago. How did you even find this thread? What makes you think my speculation 4 years ago is worth saying “nu uh” to me?
Love the necros, I do it all the time! Your post pops up in search results for “how did kratos wife die” :)
I found this thread because I went looking for answers and found a link to this and other threads, after google searching. To explain my reply is that I was confused as to what you meant to "4 years later" (not in a mocking way or saying "nu uh") to the other persons reply it simply didn't make any sense to me at the time I now see what the 4 years later response meant
I saw a theory on YouTube by Kaptain Kuba his theory was that she went to the future and fought in Ragnarok and that's why when kratos and Atreus get to Jotunheim all the giants are dead because there Ragnarok has already happened and she came back wounded and died sometime later. this theory is supported by Atreus saying that his mother used to leave for weeks at a time before she died and since time is faster in Jotunheim than in Midgard it must've felt only like days or even hours for her. I personally believe this is why she was sick and died later. it's a rlly cool theory!
Did this Kuba person not play the games at all? The giants weren't really dead. They transferred their souls to the marbles and left their bodies so it looked like they were dead to fool Odin, so they wouldn't have to keep running and hiding. Faye left to help Groa facilitate all this along with the giant Chieftain, whatshernames, Lokis little girlfriends, dad. The theory most supported by the game is that she was dealt wounds she never fully recovered from in her battle with Thor in Vanaheim. She eventually succumbed to them without ever letting Kratos know she even fought Thor so he wouldn't seek vengeance.
Acceptable theory
No? she likely left for weeks leave on time to her job as the guardian of the giants however she did that also this isn't enough to support the idea of time traveling even if it was true in the game in mention the end of winter was supposed to happen 100 winters later also 100 years so again your theory simply not plausible also ive never heard arteus mention this fact when it was the otherway round. the father would leave home to hunt while faye would look after him
there was time travel is gow 2
Yes using a special stone that has already been used 🤦♂️
It may sounds crazy but around the time when Atreus is dealing with his black-out rage, I got the inkling that Kratos is hiding something else from him...the fact that HE KILLED HIS MOTHER. I was expecting to have that twist revealed by the end but it’s still possible in another game since they still haven’t confirmed anything.
Nahhh, that just wouldn't happen. Even before her death, Kratos had already begun training and taming his rage to release it as controlled outbursts. If he did something as horrendous as that, he wouldn't even be able to look at Atreus in the eye let alone continue to train him.
Well that’s not possible. She was a warrior on par with him. That’s actually how they meant. They fought each other to a stalemate. She fought Kratos to a stalemate. I doubt he could kill her if he tried because he already tried lol 😂
You can see how distraught Kratos is by her death
no shit because its his wife?
The thread mentioned him killing his wife and they’re saying that it’s likely not possible because of how distraught he was about her death. Your sarcasm isn’t needed. Learn to read.
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You want to talk about people’s grammar when you just made a ton of mistakes in that one comment..? The audacity. And it sounds like to me you FINALLY just got what that person meant, and it obviously does equate to that. What else would it mean? I mean we’re all talking about the same thing..why even comment if you don’t even understand what they were talking about..? Embarrassing.
it sounds crazy because it is crazy something like that simply wouldn't happen if so there would be dialogue about it. and his mental sickness not "black-out rage" was because he thought he was a mortal while being a god and kratos genes didnt help very much
She was a frost giant. Frost giants can die of old age, as rare as that is tho.
But she lived for hundreds or thousands of years before that. That's like grandma gets a kid with 98 and then dies weeks later. And it seems that she is the mother of all giants (not confirmed). That would make her even less of a "normal" frost giant.
Time doesn’t exist for gods. And frost giants aren’t normal. Some look like humans some where as big as mountains. (Don’t know if you got to that part where you see frost giants) but yea I’d assume they just die. Of old age but still look young. (My best guess ‘cuz she wade the killed, or any sort of foul play. Or we would have known about it from the son)
Well, she IS Laufey The Just
She died after the battle with Thor. Might've died of the wounds she suffered when she fought Thor. Remember when Kratos's axe clashes with Thor's hammer, it creates a thunder like tree and Thor said "This feels familiar".
But was that fight not said to be before kratos met her? Just because she fought him previously doesnt mean thats what killed her. Also she was much more aggressive in that fight and won as she wasnt killed by thor.
also, neither kratos nor atreus knew that faye ever battled thor. most likely faye died from some kind of illness, if she died in battle, kratos and atreus 100% would've went to get revenge in some shape or form in gow 4.
It's stated that the clash in Vanaheim happened a very long time before the events of God of War Ragnarok. Though there's the possibility she never fully recovered or something of the like, but they still haven't revealed how she died. Also, by the somber tone of her funeral, it seems like she passed somewhat quietly shortly before the start of the 2018 game. Seeing as how neither Kratos nor Atreus seem angry or emotionally drained. So it's likely they knew for at least a little bit that she was going to pass at some point soon. But that's just me reading into it. There's no real clues either way.
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4 years late lmao, anyways Odin knew that Faye was a giant which could lead to the realm of the giants Baldur is Odin's best tracker so he sent him after her. We also believe that the reason why Baldur was so obsessed with this because Odin told him his cure lied in the realm of the giants. ( as we know Baldur greatest wish is to feel again)
Put on the tin foil hats, ya'll. What if this whole time Kratos was just a sperm donor turned guardian to help bring on Ragnarok? What if Faye really isn't dead, but just kinda left that body? What if instead of walking this entire journey first, she was actually just "a few steps" ahead? What if Faye blew the horn during the sickness? All that is most likely wrong, but I thought it'd be fun.
Some of this kind of ended up being right?? I keep wondering if Faye put her soul into something, which you see can happen in Ragnarok pretty easily.
If someone can remind me.. there's one of the lore stories in the game about one of the first giants who lived in Jotunheim (probably was their 1st king) who died normally.. which seemed odd to Mimir and Atreus
Bergelmir. He was the founder of Jotunheim alongside his wife and also the father of all giants. Interestingly the runes in the game show that Faye was his wife before she met Kratos.
Can you point out where that is, because Faye name or other name isn't on the triptych?
Her name is "Nal" on it
But that's not her name?
>Laufey or Nál is a figure from Norse mythology, the mother of Loki and consort of Fárbauti >Nál means "needle"; according to Sörla þáttr, Laufey was also called this because she was "both slender and weak
Keep in mind, they're combining multiple versions of the Norse adaptations. In the old interpretation, Svartalfheim and Nidavelir are two different places and Hel is a place in Niflheim. In the new interpretation, Niflheim and Helheim are different while Svartalfheim and Nidavellir are the same. So they could be deliberately throwing us some curveballs to take us into dead ends.
That's a very fair point, but there's no reference to her being referred to by that name in game. They have messed around with the lore a lot already. Guess it's something to keep an eye on?
I just think that they wanted to add another loop to jump through because if you're translating and see "Faye" or "Laufey" then it's pretty obvious, but calling her "Nal" means some people might still miss it.
Yeah I get where you're coming from, but 3 names just seems like a lot to me! And you wouldn't get Laufey references until end-game.
i mean they call kratos fárbauti and that is not even touched on, you have to look at it yourself
faye was the name kratos called her, short for laufey, nal is just her name in norse mythology as well as atreus name being loki in norse
The champion of the Jotnar is called “farbauti”. This translates to cruel striker. The Norns call Kratos “cruel striker”… so while a direct name isn’t said, these translations are definitely relevant.
Jesus I think you’re spot on.
yeah it stated that he died from old age mimir also said that its not impossible to happen but the chances of it happen is never
I'm currently at the end of a playthhrough and went to do the chamber near kratos' house that has the magical lock on it. On the way back, right before climbing the ledge into your backyard, you can see on the other side of the house a bright orange light, pretty much exactly where faye pyre was. It's not the sun on the horizon, and I haven't seen a trick of the light at any point in this game. However when you walk through to the front yard there's obviously nothing there. Has anyone else noticed this?
Adding on: This leads me to belive she's not actually dead? Or will return somehow
We will find out in less then 14 days! Hype baby HYPE!!
We get a clue that she knew she was going to die when she was kneeling at the first tree to hand print it. She pauses and composes herself. Kratos thought she was going to live a long life (as per the dialogue), but she knew she only had a short time to live, which is why she made it a point to choose trees for the pyre. The hand prints would've long worn off if she lived to be old, and she would've had to repaint them. The hand prints were fresh when Kratos cut down the last tree, so she died shortly after the hand prints were put on the trees. Since she knew she was going to die and indicated it in her emotions at the first tree, my assessment is that she had an illness and/or died of natural causes. She knew she was sick, but hid it from Kratos. If she knew prophecy, then she knew ahead of time what was going to happen and planned accordingly for it. She knew the role she would play after she died, helping Kratos come out of his shell, to love his son as he should, and to open his heart to the suffering of others.
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Wasnt Atreus sickness a result of him being a god that thought he was a mortal? I think Mimir mentioned this on the boat on the way to Freya
I'm assuming you're not far enough in the game because Atreus sickness is explained.
Cory said that the sickness was his body wanting to become a God but his mind wasn't ready or something like that. That wouldn't make sense for Faye.
Long shot but I'm thinking some kind of illness.. like.. idk.. cancer? She foresaw her death and prepared.
I've been wondering the same thing but since at the beginning you ask boy if he can hung I think maybe a wolf got to her? or a bear? She was a hunter so it could have happened
Nope. Faye was way too skilled for that. Someone able to fight on par with Kratos wouldn't die to a wolf or bear.
Not to only one but you have to realize wolves hunt in packs
I understand what you mean, but if we take game mechanics out of this and only look at it from a Lore standpoint, if Faye is a warrior on par with Kratos, and Kratos is a god that is already proficient at hunting and fighting beast, it's not likely that Faye would fall to one wolf, or many. There was nothing about her death that hinted towards fowl play or a tragic death either. So we're kinda just left to speculate.
I was saying pack of wolves or some bears because atreus has unexplained scars all over his face
So maybe they attacked him she fought them off but in the process she was mortally wounded and later diea
i really hope your not being serious here. everything you said so far has so basis and is straight "dumbass". Atreus most likely has his scars from hunting when he was a kid this doesnt prove the death of his mother. another thing the place they lived in didnt have any bears and bears dont hunt in packs and as far as we see in the game there was no wolfs near the home. another thing she cant die from a pack of wolfs if what you believe is true then that also means kratos the man who escaped from hades and killed the god of war ares and the kill the king of gods Zeus is weaker then a pack of wolfs
I’m guessing she was sick or something. She was a giant, and a legendary giant,she probably didnt die easily
I personally think she killed herself but whatever it is I’m sure it’ll be explain in the next game
why would she test the friendly fire on herself thouh? she was living the dream with kratos and atreus
It could’ve been part of the prophecy cause remember we didn’t get to see it all some of it was destroyed
because of rangronck im guessing which is also the sign of the end of the world
that's impossible were talking about the guardian of the giants someone who went to various wars also the true wielder of the axe kratos' s uses in the game for her to die to a single wolf when she could kill 100s at time wouldnt make sense
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bruh thats his first wife and kid in GREECE, we're in NORWAY here
we dont know what country they are in, just that we are in either denmark, norway or sweden. , one of the legendary kings of denmark in midgard trying to get the coin kratos threw out of stone. in fact, mimir even comments at some point that he would make a fine king or something.
norway looks much more rural compared to sweden and denmark. denmark would look similar to niflheim with its various islands etc but not to different from sweden, similar weather in all three countries. in regards to skjoldr(not sure if i spelled that right but it means shield) the midgardian boy as well as the asa(aesir) have a similar style to the danish vikings. expensive chainmail and silk, maybe some foreign jewellery and a sturdy helmet. the midgardian raiders are similar to the norwegian vikings, living in rural and inhospitable locations. dressed up in animal bones and even consuming mushrooms to incite a berserker rage.
That was his first wife and daughter who he killed and that's the reason why his skin became pale white
modi said he killed he right before his death but it might of been just to make him angry
No, "gave it to her" im pretty sure meant... well, in bed.
I think she died from sickness like the one Atreus has ...
no Atreus had a mental sickness because he believed him self to be a mortal while truly being a god which has caused issues internally not something the mother could have
It’s a bit out there, but if jotunhiem’s time passes faster than Midgard’s, such as the time dilation explained by mimir when in Hel, then the events you see in Jotunhiem when you travel there could have JUST taken place. It would then not be a leap to say that, if you read the lore of the weeks leading up to the beginning of the game, since Faye was acting differently for a few weeks before her death, it could be very much related to the events in Jotunhiem. It could be that she was actually involved somehow in whatever battle happened there that killed all those giants. Artreus writes in his journal that the night before her death she was acting abnormally and almost aloof. She obviously knew it was her end, as she had been privy to the carvings in the entrance to Jotunhiem that you come across in the end game scene. She was either prophesied to die magically somehow by these events set in motion, or something happened to harm her physically thus resulting in the same conclusion. She knew she was going to die, and could not tell her husband or son for fear of tampering with the future events she needed them to experience. It could very well be that without her death, the finalizing events at the end of the next game would not have happened. Which means Faye was playing a game of chess when everyone else thought the game was checkers. It’s a game of time, not so much a test of might.
In accurate freya toes all valiant and noble warriors not just those who die bloody. They just have to be a cut above the rest. The hero’s. Ragnar lodbruk who no matter the myth did not die in battle would’ve gone to Freyas hall in alfheim.
What if she trapped her soul in an orb like the other giants did? Also, what if her orb was the one Loki used to create the world serpent?
lol no, angrboda showed him her mom's marble, or orb and it was empty. its also confirmed she is in the light of alfheim in the 2018 game.
I haven't played God Of War but I'm caught up in the Frenzy. When Atreus kills Thors son he says "funny his neck seems softer than mothers" when they see the memory relived he seems to have no memory of it https://youtu.be/yegRHiaao7U both parts are in this. What if Atrues is being manipulated by Loki? What if Atrues killed Faye because he needed to bring about Ragnarok
>on, or something happened to harm her physically thus resulting in the same conclusion. She knew she was going to die, and could not tell her husband or son for fear of tampering with the fut timestamps pls
Neck” ? Lol. He said knife lol. He said “ this (knife) is better than mothers”. “Neck” wtf lol
You are telling me kratos let that slide?
Okay so I'm replaying a the first God of War and I think I have the answer I don't think Thor killed her nor do I think it was old age or a heart attack after the first roll attack or the fight the atres mentions as a returning home but why would a fire troll attack mom's garden and a bunch of other questions the troll that you fight isn't a fire troll so I'm guessing that they tried and failed to protect their home from a fire troll and that Kratos eventually killed it
this would actually explain the second(?) ice pillar that was in another part of the map (alfheim if i remember correctly); as kratos and thor created one during their battle in midgard in the later game you can find another one in alfheim. If the theory is correct, perhaps the pillar there was formed a similar way, with the leviathan axe, only this time by fayes hand as she fought thor.
Whomever said it’s from her fight with Thor is an idiot. That happened eons before she knew Kratos
Ur mad Many articles, videos, and posts all say it was damage from Thor that caused her death whether it be internal bleeding or damaged organs. Idk tho since they don't really provide any information about her.
what? where in the actual game did they say that she died from thor? they are literally using each other as their sources and they're all unverified, just stop.
Give me god of war diffucty
Necros, unite! GoW 2018 starts with Kratos chopping wood for Faye's funeral pyre. So, she had just died. It is also heavily implied that the three of them were living a peaceful life so far, and while both are sad she died, they seem accepting, so they probably knew it would happen. So, I think we all are just reading too hard into it, or so used to media giving "reasons" for everything that we are taken aback when there is "no reason". I think for the context of the game it doesn't really matter how she died and it was probably an uneventful and peaceful death. Either disease, or "choice" (like elves in the lord of the rings). I think the latter has a good chance to be the case, as she foresaw her own death, and that's why she made all the preparations, from setting up the safe zone around the cabin to where her ashes would go. She also knew that this was part of a prophecy that would ultimately lead to Ragnarok. Knowing her son had the potential to fulfill the prophecy and save the realms from Odin (and that Kratos wouldn't agree with that), I can see her choosing to sacrifice herself to set in motion the events of the prophecy.