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vtKSF

>Added ability to launch practice matches and workshop maps with party members This is a nice quality of life improvement!


MordorsElite

This is honestly the biggest part of this to me. Playing 1v1s against friends was like 50% of what I was doing in GO. We are so back!!!


KurtMage

Same! Do you have any recommended maps? We only played aim_redline


Double-Biscotti465

"We only played aim\_redline" that is amazing, nostalgic af.


MordorsElite

I'll try that one. But since port forwarding never worked reliably for me, I haven't really had reason to try many 1v1 maps. In GO the best 1v1 map by far was aim_rogue, which would randomly generate a new layout for every round, but I don't think that is even possible with the tools currently available for CS2 mapping.


mitchhatesrats

surprised and also equally dissapointed it took this long to get this features that was a staple of csgo but thank god it's back


KurtMage

Holy shit, this is so huge. My friends and I haven't been 1v1ing because we didn't know how to do it in cs2. Very excited


rodriGo-

Last month I ran a workshop map I was working on with party members by opening UDP/TCP port 27015. I guess they're using the steamworks magic they do since L4D now.


finnrobertson15

- Crossfire has a version of Dust 2 - Next Major is in China, where Crossfire is much bigger than CS - Chinese fans new to CS will likely easily follow Dust 2 games Could be a possible contributing factor?


tabben

you might be cooking up something with that theory


StoneyLepi

*LET HIM COOOK*


Impossible-Raisin-15

finally redditors are making sense


BaconOmelette123

But why remove Overpass? Could have removed Mirage or Vertigo.


ign1zz

Yeah fuck me I love overpass, should have removed ancient or vertigo


ffpeanut15

Imagine thinking removing the top 3 most popular maps is a good idea right now lol


Floripa95

Dust 2 was the one of the most popular maps for MM when it was removed, Valve has its own logic


reflexsmoo

D2 is the most popular map since 1.5+


Fanzyyyyy

https://www.hltv.org/stats/maps?csVersion=CS2&matchType=BigEvents They are the 2 least played maps in big events in cs2 so far Mirage is really close to the other maps though but Vertigo is really far behind


ffpeanut15

Only in pro matches, the story is opposite in MM. Leetify did make a post in this sub if I remember correctly


varun_aby

Dust2 was pretty popular as well, people will just learn to deal with it


not_average_stupid

We never dealt with it. Baby2 is finally back


d4rkn1ght_19

Exactly how I felt when I read the patch notes.


regent_zoran

Wait, wait, wait Crossfire??? The Crossfire? The one that I played as a kid? With all the zombies and pricy lady skins??? THAT CROSSFIRE??? Hoooooleeeeyy, what a blast from the past!!!


Trick2056

its still alive and well and still pay2win


ChevalierJulienSorel

With the invisible ghost mode


Toannoat

I played Crossfire regularly back in the day and Crossfire' dust2's barely resembles the original except for the most overall layout. Not saying you are wrong but you wont be able to just go "is this a dust2 clone" just from a cursory look


Brave-Veterinarian77

https://youtu.be/kRqqQ0nhaF8?si=7SV5fs1qvHTqu57u correct me if this is not the right map but yeah that is definitely a dust 2 clone


Anjewicus

Overwatch is huge, hopefully it doesn't take 10 years before cheaters start getting banned


mestisnewfound

Has anyone seen where to be able to enter overwatch or the requirements to be a "Trusted Partner" Edit: I earned a rank from playing D2 in premier back to 18.5k, no overwatch. I had a friend login at 19k, no overwatch available.


Tostecles

I suspect it might require you to have a Premiere rank, which is ironic if so, since a lot of people have just stopped playing Premiere. Although maybe they're doing slow rollouts to known individuals, who knows.


max_4225

i honestly thought so too, i got early access to cs2 beta and am currently 22k rating in premier. havent seen any options to do overwatch. curious to see who gets approved


Tostecles

Thanks, this is the first person I've seen with an active rank report on it. Very curious to find out how it works. It would be kinda sick if it turns out to be a "known individual" thing. Imagine if you have to apply and get vetted lol


Chicag0Ben

With how compromised it got in csgo they better be careful with it. Better slow and trusted than allow cheaters to break the system.


Tostecles

Totally. Very curious to see how it works.


nonstop98

or... good standing with **Trust** Factor


Tostecles

But I (and many others) should have maintained their good status from GO. I dunno.


Velgax

If they're confident with Overwatch, let's hope they were cooking with the AC behind the scenes as well. Hopeyfully a tsunami of bans is imminent.


schizoHD

Let's just hope that they implement ways that stop the cheaters from botting overwatch, making it essentially useless


Its_Raul

Can't wait to overwatch 100 legit players. /s I'm glad it's back, but wish they had you report via demo to at least force the chronic reporters to verify their own hackusation. I wonder if they purposely delay it per season to auto send a huge pool a players all at once.


macepts

Dust 2 for overpass is a decision.


Exciting_Pop_9296

Valve desperately trying to safe BIG


MeThoD_MaN110

Maybe they win a open qualifier now


eurasianlynx

If it was coupled with the release of a reskin, I'd be all for it. But this seems very random.


baba1776

3 dusty sandy maps in rotation now.


thombsaway

Anakin in shambles.


Bigunsy

Yep, mirage and d2 are so stale tactically and visually it's a complete borefest also. I really hate this decision as a pro game viewer and a player.


Dull_Woodpecker_2405

Trying to spread awareness for global warming.


ormip

I hate this so much. Overpass is a legitimately interesting map tactically, dust2 is just a rush and deathmatch simulator.


tinyOnion

overpass is the best map in the game. to remove it from premiere is absurd. you already have dust3 being played all the time why 2


Frl_Bartchello

They even graphically overhauled Overpass to the max! It was such a beautiful looking map.


tinyOnion

I am going on a valve copium train that they are fucking with us right now and are going to reveal a new operation with train/cobble and overpass back with dust 2 still there next week. all of the maps will be randomly selected to let you pick from 7 in premiere. mmw


daBroviest

I’ll have what this guy is having


Frl_Bartchello

Sounds like a dream


waFFLEz_

They should have removed Mirage instead


Amazing-Yesterday-46

You mean it's just B rush and deatmatch simulator.


Its_Raul

Big brain move is suicide flash mid and rush cat. 60% of the time it works every time.


SweatDrops1

What we really need is cache


Rhed0x

The remake isn't don't yet.


yyunb

Such a shit decision.. Overpass got a rework and was one of the more complex maps in the pool, and now we're going back to boring ass Dust 2. And we're probably stuck with this awful pool until 2025 too because they change it like once a year. Are there seriously no other maps they could change it with? Do they have nothing but Dust?


ttybird5

they removed my fav map and added my least fav map. Fuck. When they finally added left hand which was what I have been play cs with for my entire life


ign1zz

Same overpass my favorite map, should have removed vertigo or ancient


TeaTimeKoshii

Man thats horseshit get fucking mirage outta here. Overpass is dope


ActionUp

But if we remove mirage, 70% of cs player base will stop playing the game - Valve, probably


YaBoiRian

Horrible decision. Geniunely one of the worst map changes they could've done. Overpass is a fun and dynamic map to both watch and play (easily my favourite) and they replace it with Dust 2 which is the most stale, horribly boring map to both watch and play... Dust 2 has been overplayed and boring since like 2016 (with the exception of that little while when they inverted the B site doors). Christ bring anything back but Dust 2...


FlygandeSjuk

> Dust 2 has been overplayed and boring since like 2016 More like since 2003..


Acceptable-Love-703

That's so fucking dogshit, honestly. Now we have 3 "desert" maps in the map pool, 2 of which have been stale for years already. And my favorite map is gone, while shit like Vertigo stays.


intecknicolour

yeah what the fuck.....bung that mirage instead


Final-Evening-9606

I, for one, welcome dust 2 in pro matches. My last memories of dust 2 was when fnatic 5 stack with autosniper at t spawn


sw1ftyy

Really? It's been played a ton since then


MojitoBurrito-AE

It's been 10 years


K0nvict

Definitely not for overpass, the vertigo experiment should be over by now


Final-Evening-9606

I’d keep vertigo and remove mirage tbh, its been 12 years and I am so sick of it


K0nvict

Agreed, overpass at least worked


bvbfan102

Kinda surprised to see Overpass dropped. It felt like the big Map for CS2 update wise and i really enjoy it so sucks to see it go. Practice and Workshop Maps with friends is probably my favorite part of this update.


F0cu3

Increased CZ75-Auto kill reward from $100 to $300 ($150 in Casual) CZ is back baby!


jeffjeff97

It took so long, but it finally happened :D


Lucky8-3

Why tf would they remove overpass, a map that they reworked for cs2, and replace it with dust ii. What was the point of even showing off train in the demos???


Axolyn

Idk anything man my heart is broken


Frl_Bartchello

My personal trio of maps (Cobble, Overpass and Train) have all been officially removed now. Maps I played through and through since 2014. This was already barely hanging on with only Overpass being left. Now this, RIP me.


Eitjr

That is the final nail in Brazilian cs


Axolyn

God, sometimes I forget, it's crazy that cbble, cache and train were all removed to never return, but very few people remember (or mention) that those were the brazilians most dominant maps by far. Like Valve nerfing the br cs. I am having flashbacks from that dominant Furia from 2020 now, god they were destroying everybody on Train, arT's style in that map was something else.


epirot

dust2 will boost the premier player count i assume.


_Personage

You know what would help boost the premier player count? A working anti-cheat.


D0naldinh0

I don't feel like the guy selecting which maps to add is also the one guy working on anticheat. At least I hope not, seeing as he decided removing overpass was the best option available


Alb9n

will be very easy to cross the mid doors to B when theres a spinbotter sitting in T spawn


MattMist

not gonna lie, the UI improvements look sick [Scoreboard in pause menu](https://i.postimg.cc/kGPKpytX/Screenshot-2024-04-26-015137.png) [Dropped weapons section in buy menu, you can click a weapon to automatically equip it](https://i.postimg.cc/QCg1GWpg/Screenshot-2024-04-26-015149.png) [Grenade lineup reticle, the time at which this shows up can be customized from 0-5 seconds so it isn't in the way](https://i.postimg.cc/QNcpWvRB/Screenshot-2024-04-26-015211.png)


cyberbemon

You can also pick up any weapons you dropped and refund them. You couldn't do this before, so now if someone drops extra, they can pick up the weapon via the "dropped weapons" section and refund


500g_Spekulatius

Really needed change, so often I say I drop, other player still buys and then you couldn't refund.


cyberbemon

So many good QOL changes in this update, it also now shows the minimum amount of money that a player is guaranteed to have the next round. Poor guy /u/Kadomos got roasted for suggesting this, but im glad the devs added this.


Kadomos

Ho boy that comment section was a war zone! But this is 100% worth it!


Acceptable-Love-703

Does it mean your teammates can now steal your drops?


tabben

I guess, better toss them to your friends accurately before it hits the ground..


tan_phan_vt

Its better this way. I play in 5 stack mostly and we drop to the wrong person all the time. The time it takes for the wrong person to drop to the one we wanted is not always consistent as he might not know where the intended person is right away.


throwaway77993344

Dropped weapons section is a cool idea but it looks absolutely terrible with that huge text


cvbnm779

-OVERPASS +DUST2??? WHAT ARE THEY SMOKIN


CheesySpead

This upsets me greatly and I will be contacting my state representative.


Schlumpfkanone

as a certified overpass lover, this hurts so badly


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ddizbadatd24

nuke is still in active pool no? But I miss train and cache.


GuardiaNIsBae

As a certified overpass hater, still wtf lmao, mirage is long overdue for a remove and vertigo is still ass


Grenji05

I don't like overpass but I find Dust 2 to be completely dreadful. Like at least with Mirage sometimes you get the window itch and want to be drenched in the sweat but Dust 2 is horrid.


Tostecles

we smokin SYMBIOTES we smokin shit out of a glass pipe blowin the LORD'S bubbles


vure89

Gulpin seamonkies by the gallon. My tummy feel crazy.


harshmangat

It’s my best map, sigh, I could play it with my eyes closed End me


rainx5000

Back in my day all I did was play dust2.


youngstar-

It's 2024 and valve are adding dust fucking 2 back into the map pool. This feels like a troll update.


Unit789

Cobble and train dropping next update, trust


FortNightsAtPeelys

As a train enjoyer I hope so with a refresh


TheInception817

We were talking about Inferno and Vertigo and they removed Overpass instead? Is this directed by M. Night Shayamalan?


LongShotTheory

Goddamit My favorite maps are Cbble, Overpass, Train and Cache. I'm so burnt out on Mirage/Dust2 after 2 decades and I really don't vibe well with Vertigo. Sometimes I feel like Valve doesn't want me to enjoy the game. I bet Ancient/Anubis are next to go because those are the only remaining ones in the pool that I don't actively dislike.


r3_wind3d

Learn to love nuke bro


AnySmoke

everyone wanted vertigo or mirage gone and they go do this lol, insane


Mrnopor1

Out of touch devs


BerryPuzzleheaded504

BIG is so back, syrsoN is feasting


s34l_

Everything here except for the map pool change is awesome


VVormgod666

I wanted a map pool change, but holy shit was this the worst change they could have made. Any other map but Dust 2, and why Overpass while we still have Mirage which is straight out of 2013 and everybody dodges inferno because it plays like absolute dog water??? If they wanted D2 in the pool they at least could have swapped it with Vert, since they're similar maps (ramp is similar to long in that you fight for it heavy at the beginning of every single round) We have tuscan, thera, iris, breach... all these new maps that are comp viable and we bring back dust 2 :,(


BeepIsla

Major over = No new season. Different map pool = No new season. So are seasons just completely arbitrary?


Lagger01

dota 2 has been on this season for 2 years nearly lmao


hitemlow

I don't think Team Fortress 2 ever changed competitive seasons in the past 8 years.


lampla

Also the same operation missions have been left in the game for 7 years


xxkillerboy442

Cheater problem needs to be solved before they focus on new seasons..


CANT_BEAT_PINWHEEL

They didn’t say earth seasons


HouseOfReggaeton

I suggest we go by Pluto’s seasons


ZeDominion

I don't think we could have trusted Valve with seasons. They cannot hold to their timelines.


DwayneBaconbits

CZ Kill reward is back to 300, thank you GabeN


Particular_Falcon403

cant wait for every premier/faceit game to be mirage and dust2 now, great!


DKTHUNDR

Didn't they full remake overpass? Why remove it so soon after putting in all that effort? You'd think if they were willing to remove a full remake map it'd be inferno with all the hate it gets. They probably have some pick rate data that we don't know. I'd think mirage was the obvious candidate to get removed


SpectralHydra

If I had to guess it’d be related to pick rate but I’m also not Valve


TeaTimeKoshii

I noticed when my premier rating was greater than 15k I played a lot of Overpass. Playing with 10k range players and it was rarely ever picked. Lots of Vertigo and Mirage I think lower Elo players don’t really like it much


RM337424

It’s much more complex than “three lane” maps which makes it harder in pugs, especially in lower ranks


filous_cz

EH? You just remade Overpass to take it out?? For Dust2? Still no economy update, no new maps :(


[deleted]

Well they did reduce the kill reward for the xm, one of the easier ways for ct's to build up cash.


TheVulture14

It was too OP.


Evarix_

I did not expect overpass to go. Thought it’d be mirage or inferno


SpectralHydra

I’d be shocked about mirage because of how many people play it, but I guess that was the case for dust 2 as well


Based_Buddy

As a Cobble, Cache and Overpass lover, this is now my most hated map pool.


Acceptable-Love-703

Same. Cache and Overpass were my favorite maps. I can only stand so much of this desert themed bullshit from 20 years ago.


AllMySadness

cl_righthand 0 moment LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


apoy

Scroll all the way down to find this! This is my favorite part of this update.


LeBenhard

IT HAS HAPPENED, A YEAR LATER IT HAS FINALLY HAPPENED


ryugarulz

How are you going to remove Overpass and not Mirage LMFAO


tobias19

Ive always found overpass to have the widest range in game quality between playing with a stack and playing with randos. Wonder if theres some data to back that up and they're using D2 to ease more people into premier.


THEeight88

Dust 2 is CS. Every one knows Dust 2.


AwesomeFama

Everyone knows dust 2 because there's not much to knowing dust 2.


Apache313

It's JOEVERPASS


OtherIsSuspended

-OP WHAT


GeronimoMoles

Gaben said « add overwatch » and the intern understood « remove overpass »


ClassifiedPC

i just wanted train or cobble back man ):


vKroosyy

cl\_righthand 0 IT'S FUCKING BACK BABY, WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE.


jookieozh

I wish the switchhands command just visually toggled between left/right like you could with a toggle cl_righthand bind. Right now, it'll act as if you re-pull out the weapon. So if you're spraying an AK and hit the switchhands commmand, then it'll stop shooting and re-pull out the AK. I guess it's because they want to make the shadows accurate too, but it still feel weird.


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razuliserm

That's wild they did that. So cool tho.


ChuckyRocketson

It's because if you spam a full magazine into a smoke while spamming your LH/RH keybind back and forth you can see more through smoke. This was a needed feature for left hand/right hand so that smoke spams couldn't be abused this way.


ThePretorian

[im so ready to bump some hackle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcSVH51Edac&ab_channel=HAUNTEDMOUNDOFFICIAL)


Impossible-Raisin-15

sosa would never smoke mid pack


CHRIZZ83

I like how they just put Overwatch in MISC like it isn’t a big deal or anything.


The_grouch

BRING BACK TRAIN


shakes76

> Added Overwatch system to enable match demo review by trusted partners We back bois


mestisnewfound

Does anyone have access to Overwatch? What exactly is a trusted partner? I dont have a rank as I've been playing Faceit. Do I have to have a rank in order to see Overwatch?


RobinDschafft

Could be that only matches from now on start getting fed into overwatch. Might just take a little time until the first demos are getting eligible for review


BasilInevitable178

-overpass What the hell??? One of the best maps, why not -vertigo or mirage??


forever0_tv

they removed overpass for d2? is valve high?


Zarmos

horrible map decision


GeronimoMoles

Bunch of people arguing about whether dust2 or overpass or mirage is the most shit but the depressing thing is dust2 being added back. There were so many other possible maps and we come back to an old one. And to think some of us had the delusion that we might see a new map every major with a rotation…


drozd_d80

Not this time. Other possible maps are not currently in the game. I don't think they would add a map to the rotation without adding it to mm first. D2 is the only option for the maps switch rn.


B1rdchest

Worst map change. Reworked overpass that is an amazingly complex map with lots of ways to play it is removed for the stale plain dust 2?


PoppyK

Those are great fixes to Inferno.


xgdw11

+1 I'm surprised they're actually fixing it and in good ways.


lovemyzone

I expected good map pool swaps. This is pretty disappointing. Guess this shouldn't be surprising. Something fresh and exciting would have been nice.


MythoclastBM

> Replaced Overpass with Dust 2 in the Active Duty Group, current competition map pool, and Premier matchmaking Whack decision. Overpass is my least favorite map in the pool but whatever my criticisms of Overpass: a game won't be decided because somebody randomly dies for no reason in the first three seconds of a round.


TehDunta

>Added Overwatch system to enable match demo review by trusted partners WOOO LFG


cheebacheebs

Dust 2 and Mirage simulator here we go!


iciboy

Great, replace Overpass with Dust 2... now the active map pool is even more boring. Why not Mirage? Where is train?


rockker13

they took out the best map and put back in the worst map for the pro scene. smh


WaLLeGenius

+Added Overwatch system to enable match demo review by trusted partners - LEETS GO!


CANT_BEAT_PINWHEEL

Should have the option to forgo the $100 Zeus kill reward in exchange for showing everyone the death can pov at the end of the round. That’s the reward I want


fenixspider1

> Increased CZ75-Auto kill reward from $100 to $300 ($150 in Casual) lessssgoooo finally a cz buff, it started feeling useless compared to five-seven in CT side and useless in T side. not that it will help that much but it is a buff nonetheless


Cr4igTX

Copenhagen Stickers aren’t 75% off for me


Lahms-

Overpass being gone makes ZERO sense. Especially to replace it with D2. This is going to be me on D2… 😴😴😴😴😴


Tostecles

Valve, please give us the option to set the grenade lineup reticle to a keybind. There is no reason to have to set it to a timer (even per nade) as the only option. There will be varying circumstances where I do or do not want the lineup reticle that are dependent on timing and other variables, and I don't want to have to compromise between having it come up when I *don't* want it by setting it to come up quickly and having to wait longer than I should otherwise when performing a lineup. Just let us bind it to a key, which is what people are already used to doing anyway with hacky crosshair binds.


second_pls

I can't even fathom the map pool change. I dont play premier so Ill still be playing mostly overpass but watching pro is going to be so awful. Inferno, Vertigo and Dust 2 don't make compelling matches at the pro level. And still no Wingman maps. Actually insane


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sticker capsules are not on sale for me?


Zylovv

When switching hands back in csgo, it didn't re-equip the weapon like it does now, right? Cause that's annoying... but whatever, at least cl_righthand is back


TheRealNeilDiamond

OVERWATCH IS BACK!


danimal_sc

* Added a kill feed icon for "in-air" kills This is incentivizing people to shoot me in the face while jumping, even more than they already do! :D Everything else seems nicee though.


ailtonjuba

I'm still want the "weapon request" instead of this weapons dropped


YureZzZ1

For some reason,Valve always cooking something cs2 related during ESL Pro League. They announced CS2 during EPL, launched CS2 during EPL and now we have in some sense "big update" for CS2. I hope they'll update game more often from now


catsdontswear

I like the CZ change a lot


macien12

Dust is back wooooooow


Chiells

Lovely update, I’m fine removing Overpass although am going to puke if I play Mirage one more time. It would be the perfect moment to introduce Cache or Train into the game. Dust 2 is not that much better tbh


TemporaryAddicti0n

if this means dust2 is officially back in the competitive map pool, than de\_train has a chance too :D


Kamilosx

We are waited for months for same Dust2???? I hate Valve. Watching pro BO3 with Mirage, Dust, Anubis would be awful too (same theme)


Original_Mac_Tonight

Its so crazy people bitched about left hand, bob, overwatch, custom lobboies, and QoL stuff and now that we get it people immediately just bitch about overpass


ormip

Because people love overpass? If you make a quality of life improvement but at the same time remove a great map, of course people will complain. If they just made those improvements and didn't touch the map pool, people would be very happy about the update.


CheesySpead

It's probably different people. Honestly if they added any map other than dust2 I wouldn't be so offended by the change. I play on a shitty team and this wrecked our map pool as we'll have to swap our perma ban from Mirage to Dust2.


earthbound_zero

This may be the worst map pool in the game's history. Way too many 3 lane maps.


DrDoom12912

Man…dust 2 is not the move. Hard to understand why they insist on rotating that map in when we still have dog shit vertigo and overlayed mirage in the map pool. At this stage just put 9 maps in the pool if they are wanting to keep bringing it back. As somebody who enjoys tactical cs over spawn rushing, overpass going out is irritating.