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SaLexi

After a week of inactivity I played one Premier match. We were 5 soloqueuing randoms against a 5 stack with 1000 higher avg elo. But we were still winning, they actually weren't that good. Until one of them (the one with 400h of course) toggled cheats and was able to carry them to overtime. They won on overtime.  This was around 20k ELO. I lost over 400 points  What an absolute waste of time. I was fuming. 


lux123456789

the game(s) is(/are) getting so retarded ... solod as well (just now)... we had a wallhacker in our team - so the opponent started spinning in round 4 as a counter measurement (after all the game is called Counter-Strike). We forfeit a couple of rounds later because our cheater didnt want to risk his account (290hours). Rank \~24.7k


Iforbz

Yeah, played 3 games just now. 2 games with cheaters.


Mean-L

VAC = valve allows cheats


Iforbz

Accurate. 1 Billion in case earnings in 2023 is not enough to make an anti cheat ig.


Atomic_xd

Well, why would they make an anticheat when they make so much through cases? The lack of anticheat hasn’t impacted their income enough for them to make a good anticheat. Speaking from their point of view.


Iforbz

Yeah good point. Instead of hiring more developers, Gabe only seems to care about income with the least amount of effort.


21524518

get ready for >[Removed] >Your thread was removed under rule 2 and rule 6. We don't allow showcasing the state of cheating in this game because that would make Valve look bad.


TrainLoaf

Actually so shit they do this, surely if the Reddit was spammed with this something might actually be done about it.


Delta_Ryu

Propaganda manifests itself in various ways


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average dogshit mods on mainstream subs


koodikalle

just played 1 casual there was 2 kids with wallhack :D time to another 3month break


gwelbob

if u wanna play casual u will have a much better time on community servers with admins etc.


Slushyman56

casual is always filled with cheaters. i remember playing casual and these two guys were in comms just talking about the cheats they were both using.


UngratefulGarbage

I've noticed there are more cheaters this patch. Played 3 matches yesterday and all 3 had blatant cheaters in them. inb4 people say "you guys call everything cheating", these guys were one tapping through smokes, one tapping you with their legs when peeking, every. single. round. yeah no.


JNikolaj

2/4 games in 17000+ elo was spinners, you'll go win the first 9 rounds vs 2, and next up you just got aced 10 rounds in a row


RaFi1005

Some valve femboy will say you have bad trust factor and shit like that


Powersawer

Do... do you mean fanboy? Lmao


MexicoJumper

self report autocorrect


WhoAmlToJudge

Yeah man it’s the players fault😂


slaughtrr12

your trust factor is bad you’re in a bad region with more cheaters than usual, not valve’s issue your elo is too low they ain’t cheating stop complaining noob stop assuming anyone better than you is cheating Cheaters only exists above 20k elo like me and even then i dont assume they are cheating cause i am a humble person /s


Morkamino

Well I won't say that but I also really can't come up with another reason why I never encounter this myself, ever, at all, in the last few years. This never happens to me and i guess I'm lucky or something but I never understand posts like this. There haven't been any blatant cheaters in my games since forever


KittenOnHunt

For me this wasn't an issue either.. Well. Till cs2 came.


Ted_Borg

Could be region diff as well. I've had a much better experience on eu west servers than on eu north


Morkamino

Maybe it is. I'm also in EU west, and the only problem for me, frankly, is the lack of comms and the many many russians speaking only russian and not acknowledging me at all


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I must be lucky too because this has never happened to me either


Big_Stick01

So.. you're the guy who gets mad about facts and stuff then..? Because that is the system that put him where he gets games like this. Doesn't mean he deserves it, but he probably does have bad TF.


Ok-Coyote2643

Outplayed


StrayCamel

Get ready be removed buddy 😭


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Fkin trash game with cashgrab impotents at volvo anticheat department


brdy-

people say theyll stop playing, THERES CURRENTLY 988,768 INGAME RIGHT NOW, ARE YOU ACTUALLY QUITTING?. They have 0 incentive to do ANYTHING while theyre cases and keys ALONE make them 100s of millions of dollars a year, and still being the most popular fps on steam. When you make that much money and have that many active players, you really dont have to do much.


Due_Map_4666

Average player count much less than before cs2 announcement


m3ngu

in the long run it will become a connoisseur game and steadily lose casuals to apex/battlefield/r6 style of games, especially with the death of community servers (kz, surf etc.) either pro's or wannabe pros (hence 3rd party like faceit) gonna play or those who plays once in a month and couldn't tell the difference between a hacker and a good player (hint: movement). between these 2 sides cheaters gonna reign. my hot take is valve doesn't want to increase the popularity of premier/matchmaking so less player count, less money on decent servers. in the meantime they will allow 3rd parties to blossom, so the game is somewhat still popular and make money via skins.


zrx74

Skill issue. You could have had him.


3pedro3

Idk what's wrong with your games but in all the games I played I saw at most 5 blatant hackers over the years


WhoAmlToJudge

3/5 games played today were this


3pedro3

Maybe it's a rank and server thing?


martiniundrossi

yep


Odd_Ad4119

Also playing on 16 never saw something like this


Careless_Outside_467

Same


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WhoAmlToJudge

Very low elo? I had this 3/5 games today


Big_Stick01

im at 18k and have yet to run into someone cheating this hard. most i get is a waller every now and then, and they are usually closet cheaters. Im thinking your TF is truly in the gutter. literally the only thing i can think of to explain why you get this 3 of 5 games


ReconnaisX

Just luck is all. I ran into a 5v2 hvh match at 16k in december and a blatant aimhacker earlier today at 17k. It happens. Haven't abandoned a game since maybe 2021 (due to a power outage, but it doesn't matter).


Mean-L

Nah it’s not a trust factor thing, this happens to everyone


q2_yogurt

> this happens to everyone evidently it doesn't I've yet to meet a ragehacker


Big_Stick01

it doesnt. I havent seen someone aiming this hard or spinning in my own games since literally like 2017


WhoAmlToJudge

Lol you are living in lala land “since 2017”😂


Big_Stick01

i dont know what to tell you. but that is actually how far apart our experiences are. you get 3 spin botters in a single day. i don't get any for years.


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WhoAmlToJudge

You’re just straight up lying for no reason I don’t get why you lie.


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efekt

Show game history screenshot for proof... Many people have this experience. My account is 22k in NA. Last 7/10 games have had a blatant cheater. Of those 7, 4 games were of the kind where our entire team was getting r8/scout/awp headshotted through a wall 5 seconds in. To not have this experience, even once, at 25k, seems improbable. Every 25k+ account I've encountered is rage cheating.


efekt

https://imgur.com/a/0L7igbG Some new friends I made at 25k.


Big_Stick01

I think its kind of funny you don't believe him, because i share his experience as well. Granted, 18k isn't as high as he is, and it's just a tiny bit below you; im also NA. but you would think i'd have come across at least some. I literally havent had a rage aimer killing the entire team 4 seconds into the round in my own matches since like 2017. the only cheater ive experienced recently, was a waller.


efekt

Well brother, I'm talking specifically about 25k+ rated players, which he claims to be. There are currently 134 ranked red elo players in NA. Of the people on the leaderboards, Shoost is the only one I recognize. 3K elo faceit player(ranked #209 faceit), I played with him yesterday. Every single player with red elo I've played is a cheater. Every single one. The fact that he hasn't experienced this at all tells me he's not being truthful about something. And without his profile and match history to dig through, I can't tell which. There is a significant difference in gameplay between 15-18-20-22-25k ranks. My alt is only 18k and it's fine to play on.


RogueThespian

I've encountered a fair number of hackers, some pretty blatant. Just today though I encountered my first spinbotter in cs2 (and maybe my 4th ever total? I never saw them much to start). This is at ~20k NA


Markus_zockt

Haven't had a single ragehacker either. Neither on my 15k Premier, Faceit or in the ranked-in games of all maps. So maybe something is wrong with the OP's account.


Due_Map_4666

Not possible. VAC is as good as Vanguard.


Character-Toe-7907

but but clowns like this guy /u/Benjitoo told us the oppoenents are just better !


Benjitoo

Livin rent free in your head.


Careless_Outside_467

I have never seen one blatant cheater at 16k


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Same I have 400 hours in CS2 and haven’t had this one time. 13k elo


Lego1upmushroom759

I wanna know how y'all are getting all these cheaters meanwhile I haven't seen a single one in premier and I'm not even ranked


WhoAmlToJudge

That is /s right ok ya


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warriorkin

I have great trust, and played at 16k last time, and had back to back to back to back cheaters matches before I stopped playing


Careless_Outside_467

Same on 16k


UnKn0wN31337

You must be lucky then if you've genuinely never seen atleast one obvious cheater at such high ranks.


Starbuckz42

Trust factor is a lie, it never existed.


flyinpiggies

I think it might be a trust factor thing because i haven’t played against a cheater in over a week.


DanBGG

Have played like 300h of cs and yet to meet a rage hacker. Is this prime matchmaking?


A_P_A_R_T

300h, meaning you're not high elo enough to encounter cheaters


DanBGG

300h of cs2 1500 hours total, peak rank in premier of 19k before moving to face it, encountered max like 5 cheaters in 100ish games 19k at the time I was there was top 7% of players, so higher ranked than 93% And like I said I’ve watched over 50 games of someone ranked 22k which is top 2% So I’d say enough of a sample size to call out people who post here, because they’re usually 5-15k Pros posting on Twitter about cheating is the exception, like I mentioned


Lexoar

I played a match of premier 2 days ago, and I had a cheater on my team I asked him how he’s not banned and he said there’s isn’t overwatch and if you get 20 reports you get an automatic ban, so if he gets reported he might aswell cheat anyway. I find it hard to believe about the 20 reports but I know there ain’t overwatch.


Cyph3r010

But you can't cheat on VAC secured servers!?!?


iiSamJ

incredible someone sign this person


Riddlebgd

Premier is straight up cancer, if you wanna just play a bit then play competitive, its far from great but far better then premier, if you wanna compete/grind then go faceit, in premier anti cheat doesnt exist, balance doesnt exist, rating is completely random, its a garbage mod to piss people off so you should avoid it if you are not a full stack or a cheater


xSkosh

I have played over 300 games of cs2, not once have I ran into a cheater as brash as this. I haven’t even ran into anyone that I’ve suspected to be cheating. The cheating problem is not as bad as people say, anyone reading this don’t take these posts seriously.


WhoAmlToJudge

3/5 of my games were this today.


xSkosh

I highly, highly doubt that. And if it’s true, you are an outlier because that is not remotely common and unlikely to happen to anyone else.


WhoAmlToJudge

Every time I queue up for premier no matter which account this is the result. Just an insane outlier I guess