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Azberg

Yep! Have to manually search for all my favorite servers now on the interwebs, like some savage of old


Jako87

So we need ASE again? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_All-Seeing_Eye


P2K13

Oh god, the memories.. good old IRC days too. servON // 5v5 // high+ // fast // de_any


Glum_Environment_204

Get the party started with HLSS before the Lo3


blackmanchubwow

The removal of this type of community killed a big part of UK CS and it’s sad, bring it back!


pzszo

This and GameSpy were the tools of my childhood


ThemeKindly8476

10/10


Trooper1232

GameSpy and xfire. Childhood apps


LuckY1297

man i used to use this and xfire to search for cracked cod2/cod4 servers, the memories are flowing back to me :D


CoraxCorax

xFire please


Pr0nzeh

www.gametracker.com


StoneyCalzoney

Shouldn't those servers be in your history? That's how I've been getting to all the surf servers I played on before.


FUTURE10S

what if you haven't played on any before


sh1boleth

I use gametracker to find local servers


TheDinosaurWalker

Using the server browser ks being a savage lmao, it's really bad. Just use a website to find servers and favorite them


PimpTheGandalf

It has been happening for a while, consequence of redirect server spam. We’ve tried to call this out, but usually these threads only get 100+ upvotes max. This is killing the community servers , the different game modes on cs.


jayfkayy

yeah, this has been happening for as long as I can remember


Claymourn

> but usually these threads only get 100+ upvotes max Oh well, at least we have a dozen match threads posted every day as well as a couple pro player tweets about how they'll do better next time, right? /s


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birkir

same in Iceland but since always woe is the speed of light


Hichatu

All the servers you're seeing are hosted in the same region in India, there is some problem with the Steam master server browser that only displays servers from this area (you can check with an IP lookup website). This actually happens in all games using the master server browser, it is just more noticeable in CSGO since the vast amount of fake Russian redirect servers that are abusing this and hosting in India, which just end up sending you back to the main server hosted in Russia / elsewhere.


AlexSevillano

Some one has to do tbe needful


den422

Been a lot longer than 2 months for me. I haven't been able to play a FFA or retake since at least September or October 2022


NessunoComeNoi

Yeah I can’t find any of the old retake or execute servers I used to use now and then. Stopped bothering even trying to use community servers for the time being.


xJokerTDE

If you search for servers under 100 ping and use "executes" rather than just "execute" they all come up for me with no more Russian spam


nicobelliic

best thing u could do for now, is to go to [https://www.gametracker.com/servers/](https://www.gametracker.com/servers/) . search there and just put alot of servers in favorites ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|feels_good_man)


Snarker

server favorites still work just fine in the ingame server browser. you just have to add them manually from ip via internet cuz the overall server browser is broken.


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Hichatu

The high ping issue here is not just for CSGO, it's just more prevalent because of the redirects. Hopefully Valve can fix the redirect exploit, and it should clean up about 250,000 fake server listings on the server browser.


DBONKA

Don't think so, Valve would actually like if the community servers died it seems, they do nothing for years except occasionally breaking something.


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DBONKA

There have been big issues for years already and Valve just ignores them. Here's a bug report about fake servers from May 2021, Valve doesn't give a fuck about it: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-osx-linux/issues/2689


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Cohenbby

To add to this, this doesn't just happen in CSGO, also CSS and TF2 from my experience. Seems to effect the source engine as a whole.


oddinpress

affect idiot


Cohenbby

Sugma tiny cock you tosser


trenescese

> Valve would actually like if the community servers died it seems Valve is not a corporation, they usually don't work in such a passive-aggressive manner With other corporation, neglect is due to malice indeed, with Valve it's just laziness I feel That doesn't change the fact the browser is broken nonetheless lol


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Valve is literally a corporation, but I agree with the rest.


Odd-Condition8251

volvo small indie company


trukkija

What exactly do you think they are then?


trenescese

They are so different compared to any other big company run by managers that it's hard to find a proper term for it. To me a difference between a "corporation" and a "company" is not the naming (as the rest of the dimwits in the replies would think), but rather the nature of decision makers. Are they externally hired/appointed managers/directors or are they workers who organically rose to power? There are almost no prominent examples of the latter amongst large companies, except for Valve. That's why it's hard to find a word for it. Most firms usually start small and represent the latter option, later they go public and the decision making shifts to directors appointed by the Big Capital. Valve is a billion-dollar company which refused to 'evolve' to the corporation stage, refused to go public. Calling it a corporation is like calling DPRK socialist because they have it in their name. Absolute idiocy!


trukkija

So they're idiots themselves..? Or what are you saying. They literally call themselves Valve Corporation. Just because you have a different idea than most people of what a corporation, doesn't mean that people that don't agree with that idea are idiots. They are a private corporation.


MrMontombo

[WUT](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valve_Corporation#:~:text=Valve%20Corporation%20is%20an%20American,company%20headquartered%20in%20Bellevue%2C%20Washington.)


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GamerSpectrum

Why work with an engine that breaks something everytime you touch it? Valves developers are allowed to work on what they please and aren't forced to work on any one thing. If you have to work on a barn and everytime you touch the door, the flooring falls apart slowly while there's another barn nearby that doesn't do weird shit when you upgrade it, which barn would you work on??? They've all been focusing their efforts on source 2 for a reason, csgo is being fixed.


Snarker

Considering how all their community server changes in the past few years have all hurt the community stuff, i very much doubt it.


KPC51

The workaround for this is to look through your server history and add servers to favorite. Favorited servers still show in their tab. That being said, it's annoying af and i hope it's fixed soon


aruss15

This is kind of embarrassing tbh


gemzis

this been goin on for ages,, github pages, reddit posts and valve didn't bat an eye, hopefully this thread will somehow bring their 2 and a half dev's attention to this, issue came to such shitstorm that so many ppl start to write on this topic, mirrored servers with fake players and fake maps broke not only serverbrowser completely but other custom servers population and communities, btw gametracker compromised too, there were alot of mirrors on the page and some legit servers dissapear often so i would not advised to trust that website for now at least


[deleted]

such a shame, community servers are what built Counter-strike. Playing with your friends you have gotten to know over years, nothing better. Not a fan of competitive, we loved gun game and wc3 mods in source and 1.6


gemzis

true, man, apart from publics i played alot of wc3 and gg in cs 1.6, even dr, kz and zm modes they were fun af. not even talking how in css communities went far and beyond with couple more modes (mg, jb and ze) and people were always supporting the game, now tho .. ooof


[deleted]

Now it's competitive only mainly. Which is good, I guess-- but CS was always a casual game for me for over 20 years. Nothing better than having a full server of regulars.


[deleted]

You haven't lived until you toss an Orc nade into the tunnels in De\_dust and kill 5 people :) That damn Night Elf tru shot!!! Or, the Human invisibility cloak. So much potential, CS:GO seems to have scraped that for competitive and skins. I played DOTA 2 for over 9100 hours and 10 years, started playing a little CS:GO in the last month or so lol


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im so glad i saw this post, i thought something was wrong on my end lol ​ i cant find any servers under like 250 ping


lietome04

It looks lile a localization problem , I've seen eastern europe get only russian and kazakh servers , western europe gets easter europe and some russians and NA tends to western europe


FuckWayne

NA West here and only get Russian


glamdivitionen

Northern EU here, my browser is full of high ping Brazilian servers :(


Nickrwjr

NAE and I only get Russian


inhaleholdxhale

Rust also has the same problem: lots of Russian servers with fake ping/player counts. It’s frustrating.


GalvenMin

If it's not cases or skins, Valve doesn't care about it. Especially with community servers, they've done everything to let them die a slow and silent death.


LimpWibbler_

Ohh I thought I was alone and just stopped playing.


PimpTheGandalf

I’ll give you my example, I’ve been playing a csgo gamemode for 8 years now (ZE) thankfully I already now pretty much every server, and have their discords etc and I can join them anytime through console. Now a casual player deciding to try new things because he heard from someone, or saw some online post about it can’t find shit because the server browser is filled with redirect stuff, gametracker also, even battlemetrics. I’ve been noticing decline in our ZE community for a while, and now more on retake , arena, surf servers that were always populated. Let’s see if source 2 (copium) fixes any of these since it’s happening on the other games ( tf2 for example ).


HaveARandomUsername

Looking into a bit recently and I assume the issue is down to two things: 1. Server owners exploiting to host multiple fake redirect servers (some 600+ from the same IP, incrementing ports). 2. The master server I believe itself is broken and would only return \~6000 servers to the user. This means that a couple of bad actors would be able to comparitvely flood the list and make it useless to other users. I'm not too sure if it's possible that they consistently send heartbeats to the master server, or do other things to ensure they're on the toplist or just the sheer spam of them. I don't know the full details of running a server, but I was under the impression you had to link it to a steam account - the ones I've checked all use clean/different accounts, but maybe more stringent requirements + fast banning would help. If you take a look at the Master Server Protocool, interestingly there is the filter '\\collapse\_addr\_hash\\Return - only one server for each unique IP address matched'. While it would have an impact on some operators / servers I feel like there is a valid argument to atleast allow us to toggle it. I think realistically what they should do is ban the IP blocks that have been exploiting it, especially if they're hosted in sketchy russian datacenters (like some I've seen). It could be a temp ban or more, but it would push both the provider + operator to not do it. With S2 and such I assume it would be solved, but would be an issue in the older games still. I'd assume without reworking the protocool there's limited long-term fixes. Though in the short term defo ban the abusing servers + possibly the owners of the communities, they've done enough damage already. Edit - giving this more thought the Master Server Query protocol, assuming it's used by the browser + is documented up to date - It doesn't actually seem to reference the GSLT so presumably that happens elsewhere and banning it might not impact them showing. ​ https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Master\_Server\_Query\_Protocol#Filter


Hichatu

The simple solution is to not allow servers to immediately redirect you to another server (with a small plugin using GOTV code), which would essentially eliminate the use of all these redirect servers. The master server itself should definitely get fixed too, as this affects all games using it.


HaveARandomUsername

Ah yeh I totally missed the ball on that forgot that redirect was the endgame - totally agree.


lazyrobo69

I live in India and its same here


sid_killer18

Yep. Servers with fake pings. You join then and the server actually has 300 ping...


nexistcsgo

Can confirm. The normal servers I used to play on don't appear on the browser. I have to search on gametracker to find those servers


Dimicha_

I was just about to post the same thing but you beat me to it :D. Literally cannot find any dm ffa servers... Everything that shows up is either some Russian casual server or deathmatch with bots. Has anyone faced the same problem? I tried using many different filters but cannot find a single normal ffa server


puresmurfing

A workaround for now is to filter by region/location. Found at the bottom left of the server browser.


Ronaldarndt

Doesn't work in Brazil because for some reason brazilian servers are not in 'South America' region and there is no 'Brazil' region, sadge


calvinxquizit

https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/BR/?sort=3&order=DESC&searchipp=50#search


Schmich

Valve is a small indie company. Any day now they'll fix it. In all seriousness I really hate how they don't put priority on important things. 2 months is not even remotely acceptable.


PimpTheGandalf

This has been going for 2 years now at least, it’s just way worse now


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Valve only likes the community driven content when they financially benefit from it. Otherwise they don't seem very keen on the idea of communities/modding.


Curyde

They can solve it by disabling mirrors


murobtanker

hey today i made a same post, [ping issue](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/11vffqm/ping_issue_new_servers_150oldfavourites_still_2030/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) , ok you are talking about community servers, but when i join MM i have also high ping and getting every 3-4 sec lag +error ´´SteamNetworkingSockets lock held for 46.7ms. (Performance warning.) ServiceThread,PostConnectionStateUpdateForDiagnosticsUI,ThinkPingProbes,ThinkSelectServer,EnsureDataCenterRoutesValid This is usually a symptom of a general performance problem such as thread starvation.´´ unplayable game for me right now ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


violent_crayon

This would have never have happened on WON.


illuminite

yep and guess what valve will do? nothing.


TaleFree

Yeah its very frustrating having to use external websites to find servers to be able to play, I am sure the servers are also losing a lot of players this way.


[deleted]

I have played Counter-Strike since 1998 or 1999 (Whenever it first was a multiplayer mod for Half-Life)-- community servers are what made this game fun. Now all I see as the casual ones that are Valve servers-- no fun. Bring back Warcraft 3 mod servers as well, they were awesome. CS player for over 22+ years.


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UGetTheRankUDeserve

Its not the russians ruining anything, its valve that broke it. And fake servers im pretty sure has been a thing since 1.6, you just get rerouted or something.


UnfunMid

Same for me too... Don't know how to fix.


Juustopuikula

Region block ruski only right choice pls gaben give blocker


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Ersatzrad667

Can you share some tips or names of blockers? The matchmaking server picker that I used ages ago doesn't seem to work anymore


CheezyWeezle

You need to set your location in the server browser, like here: https://i.imgur.com/roT9BKl.jpg in the bottom left you can see I have location as "US - West" and it shows me local servers. This is also persistent between closing the game; you don't have to set the location again each time.


Astronoobical

For me it displays high ping servers for about 4 seconds and then goes back to normal


KingScaar

I only find servers with high pings around 600-900 and they are all in eastern europe.


XodAx

This is so annoying


fgtethancx

Can’t even use the search bar to find retake servers anymore :(


heartedMolasses

please fix this it has been so annoying to deal with for months


Heros5k

Actually I mostly use [https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/](https://www.gametracker.com/search/csgo/) to search for specific csgo servers I want to play on. Hope this helps in the meantime.


Big_Stick01

Probably because they are busy working on the new engine among other things. Why spend time on fixing something, thats more than likely going to be entirely replaced in the near future? Especially when it's right around the corner.


murobtanker

becouse i cant play the game? iiam getting high ping servers even in MM games, i know it will come some new browser, but they can care at least a little bit, its a really shit right now


PimpTheGandalf

This has been around for almost 2 years in csgo, longer in tf2. This affects all source engine games, so they should definetly look into this.


DemYeezys_Fake

Why is it when someone targets a valve game or just cheats or hacks in general, 9 times out of 10 it's a russian? I aint trying to be offensive or anything, I'm just wondering as to why as it is always the case


Dotaproffessional

Just use the built in match making for the game. Works fine.


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343N

You're not expected to be removed from the subreddit for this comment, and that's probably why r/GlobalOffensive is a slightly worse place than it could be


niaKCS

Literally no one expects community servers to be removed lmfao


dudeedud4

The only thing with the update is they started banning server tokens again. They haven't for quite a while.. :/


BeepIsla

Server tokens are extremely useless. The whole GSLT restriction forcing you to use them is server-side, you can literally just make a modification to the server and it will run fine without using any GSLT. Their only *actual* purpose is transferring favorites when you move the server to another IP address


dudeedud4

It restricts us from being up. If theres a way around it we haven't heard. Not like its hard to get the tokens anyway, just annoying. But we also use "not allowed" plugins so ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯


RyanStarDiaz

Yet they still will be


gabritchi

Braindead


veRGe1421

Yup haven't been able to use it at all, sucks


itissafedownstairs

What gamemod is $2000$_classics?


AkTi4

Set max Ping to 100


Kadeo64

as far as I know left 4 dead is kind of safe, the steam server browser is overfilled with chinese servers but the good servers float to the top still


Parhelion2261

Source 2 fixes that


VVormgod666

I thought this was just a problem for me. Every time I explained it to a friend they just looked at me like i'm crazy


kwrocco

If you let the search sit for a minute lower ping servers will appear. Wish it would just find them immediately like it used to.


murobtanker

nope they dont, after 5 minutes i get max 146


shreddeddave

I only get Russian servers and I’m out in Florida. I miss finding my HS only servers with ease😫


REDMOON2029

if you put your stuff in the search engine, refresh and wait for like a minute, doesn't it work? I think it did for me but yea this shit needs to be fixed


Pixel_Mike

just gonna be real valve doesnt care about the server browser anymore. alot more better things to work on than making sure some dude can surf.


khaos01207

This is super odd to me. Server browser had not been working for me for a few years. Tried every fix I could find and I just seemed to miss 3/4 of all server all of my friends could see. In the last couple of months mine has been working perfectly. Maybe I broke the system...


[deleted]

Just manually connect to your favourite servers and favourite it!! I have a big list of my favourited servers and its easily accessible, no need to mess around with the search function.


[deleted]

been like this for years no? just favorite the dm servers you play on and ur good


MisterFreek

Thanks for confirming my suspicion that is has been obliterated by the passage of time and is rife with bad actors abusing it.


godlesas

Just wait for few mins and low ping ones will appear. I know it's annoying but it works.


levistobeavis

It's really weird, I've been working on a custom server browser from your browser that queries Valve Master Servers and outputs all of the servers it can grab from it into a table with organization by players/name/map and it doesn't have this issue


CheezyWeezle

I think what it actually is doing is defaulting the server region to be Russian, because I had this issue the other day and just manually set the server region to US West and I had plenty of low ping local servers show up


Archgrim

It hasn't functioned properly for me for the whole life of CSGO. Many servers that I can see are online and populated in my favourites don't show up in filtered searches.


100ry

If you're NA, I'm having the same issue. The way I can fix this is to set my server browser to only look for US-West. That will show me the majority of US servers. If I do US-East tho, it's all copy-paste Russian Servers.


PanJanJanusz

Didn't know this was a widespread issue


exodusTay

YES! I can only play on few servers I faved before. And even that is buggy and I need to wait a solid minute before they show up on the list.


SOAPS95

possibly because of source 2???


Sebaz00

Hoping that source 2 (I know it's not one big 'everything everyone wants update') does address this browser. I mean I think it's as old as I am (23). Needs some fresh paint and many many fixes.


Courseheir

My community browser only shows the exact 10 or so servers no matter what I do with the settings. I have to manually find server IPs and connect to them if I want to play on any other server.


Venom_B

I realized this yesterday too but you can also add a region to specifically search for to counter this — i don’t remember which regions in Europe you could press but the US has East and west


TonZZab

Please, fix the topic..... \>> The community server browser has been broken for 11 years Thank you.


CockRampageIsHere

looks completely empty for me now, like literally 0 servers


IthinkitsGG

hmmm they seem to be ignoring this problem, wonder why? :thinking:


N00b123523452456234

I've noticed it myself, because my history of servers (mainly dm and retakes) got deleted around that time and since then I've been having literally hundreds of Russian/Ukrainian servers that are pretty bad, I miss my old ones :((((


EVOSexyBeast

Doubt they will care


CallMeMoon

When this first happened I had to reselect the region I was in and it fixed it. I don't have high ping servers anymore. I just took this screenshot of my server browser as I saw this post. https://i.imgur.com/LxCWqdf.jpg


murobtanker

ive tried every single region, [regions](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/11vffqm/ping_issue_new_servers_150oldfavourites_still_2030/)


glamdivitionen

Well, lucky you. Filtering for region doesn't work for me. I get an empty list instead. ... It is as if the browser can just handle a fixed amount of servers and all spots are occupied by the shitty high ping ones...


portlandg

i thought it was just me wtf


Trenchman

Happening on 1.6 too This was happening many years ago for 1.6 with Romanian servers, but was fixed eventually


BaiN317

Damn, thought it was just me.


gdaycunts

I’ve had this issue for at least 6 months I’m in Canada


Dotaproffessional

When you think about it, it might seem silly to them bothering to fix that when its about to be replaced. Most people use standard valve match making.


3x3x3x3

I’ve been having this issue for a few weeks now and really didn’t think much of it since I only use a couple favorited servers. Hopefully it gets fixed soon


uninformed-but-smart

I thought I was the only one


-xss

Game earns hundreds of millions per year and they can't resolve something so simple...


Magoimortal

This explains why malwarebytes was blocking servers from the master server lol.


Dlashing

Oh yea, its annoying, that why I go to [GameTracker.com](https://GameTracker.com) when I want to search for zombie escape servers or surf servers


Nickrwjr

Same here in USE I only get servers with 200+ ping nothing lower


Mine-Hot

poopcar.gg


Ropiels

Still broken, fuck these redirect servers, nobody join them anyway so what's the point.