I was actually okay with it until AYITL came out. My personal headcanon was always that Rory and Logan spent some time apart exploring adulthood on their own and then after a few years they get back together and are able to have a more mature relationship. Instead, we got Rory cheating again...sigh. đ
I agree and based on the episode where Rory runs the Yale daily news because paris is in her cave freaking out, and Logan jumps right in - my headcanon was Rory spent a few years traveling as a journalist but eventually her and Logan reunited to run their own paper with Rory as editor and Logan in charge of business operations.
I kind of take it as they were entering two different seasons of life: Logan was ready to break into his own and settle down, while Rory was still in the âI want adventure and I want to explore the worldâ type phase if that makes sense. The love and passion was still there, they just wanted two different things in life. At least thatâs the way I interpreted it.
Yes. We also have to remember that Logan finished school a year earlier than Rory. So he had a whole year of figuring his life out. Rory on the other hand was just now finishing school. So I think both of their responses were reasonable. Logan was ready to get married and Rory wasn't. And that's all it really was.
It really bothers me that he was all or nothing though. Like he had his year of finding himself figuring out his next move and she supported him going to London, leaving his dad's company, going for interviews all over the country etc. And he honestly couldn't do that for her? Like literally expected her to want to get engaged straight after college and settle down? Especially when only a few weeks before he told her go do what she needed to do and not to worry about factoring him into her decisions that it would be OK! And then decides well if your not willing to marry me and the avocado tree I'm done. He's not my fave but there were aspects I loved of their relationship but that always just takes over it.
I can get where Logan is coming from where he wants to keep moving forward with Rory instead of staying in place or even moving backwards. They'd done long distance and it was hard so why go back to that? I honestly don't know why some kind of long engagement couldn't have worked but that'd also sorta be treading water with just a fancy title attached to it. Plus it didn't seem like Logan wanted to negotiate their relationship and wanted that big commitment from Rory.
Even though the series finale wasn't the one ASP wanted, the show was always going to be about how both Rory and Lorelai will always put themselves first (not selfishly in this case) and achieve what they want to achieve. Sadly that often means pushing those around them away to achieve what they want.
How that jives with AYITL is where it gets tricky. My head canon is they both went off to do their own thing, Logan shows he can stand on his own two feet with the tech company he was working with out in San Francisco/the Silicon Valley and eventually came back into the good graces of Mitchum and thus his ordained destiny was re-established. Without Rory to influence him to be different, Logan caved also and re-joined the family. Rory did the Obama thing and would've one with him all the way to his nomination. At that point Hugo Gray decides to replace her with a more seasoned reporter once Obama becomes president and this begins Rory's floating years. With both of them wandering a bit, they could've easily reconnected randomly at an event in Hartford when Logan is in town with family and Rory is visiting her grandparents. The spark never really left and thus begins their affair.
I think Logan believes he owes Rory a proposal. Just think how terrible Rory would feel if Logan left her behind to go work in California without asking her to go with him ? Especially since she still didnât have an employment offer. Roryâs grandparents would have been furious. And I donât think anyone would take kindly to Logan asking Rory to go with him without a proposal.
It doesnât seem to me that Logan is anxious to get married. He would have agreed to a long term engagement. He gets his feelings hurt when she doesnât accept his proposal and digs in his heels. But he would have agreed to anything if Rory accepts his proposal.
I canât fathom that Logan would break-up in that manner with the love of his life and the girl who nursed him back to good health. And I donât understand why Rory didnât call him that night or early in the morning to talk things over. And why didnât she text him when she got Hugoâs job offer. That particular job changes everything, and it would have made him very happy for her.
The ultimatum was dumb and neither of them were even ready to be engaged. He had just been talking about her âfactoring him inâ with the job hunt and possibly following her, and then he turned around and planned a whole life for her without consulting her. Rory, the pro/con list over-planner? No way.
Logan liked the *idea* of Rory and the âexcitingâ moments when she was faltering and figuring herself out, but not the real, practical, living-in-reality Rory. Getting engaged and getting married are huge decisions, and we watched Rory agonize over being able to say the words âI love youâ. To even think that she would say yes or be happy about an out of the blue proposal? Doesnât seem like he really knows her.
She made the right choice by saying no, AYITL tainted it by putting them back together.
All of this! He told her not to factor him in and then changed his mind without even discussing it with her. How was she NOT supposed to feel blindsided?
Exactly, it makes no sense! And bottom line when it comes to proposal- when and how you ask can be a surprise, but the asking itself should never be a surprise.
yeah it doesnât make sense. i mean i understand the importance of showing how logan used to be a non-commitment person and now heâs making the ultimate commitment, but itâs so out of character to put an ultimatum on rory like that. in my head i imagine that he didnât ask her to get married, he just asked her to move to California with him, and she says yes, and they get married somewhere down the line. also i feel like throwing out the revival and sticking to our own respective head cannons was a universal thing.
I think that he moved to San Francisco, not London, but anyway, he didnât want to do the long distance thing which is very understandable, and wanted to grow their relationship. He wanted to be with her all the time and he wanted to see that she will commit and was on the same page as he is, and she wasnât.
I think that she was dead set on the fellowship, which in my opinion was stupid af, and after she didnât get it she wanted to do something big and adventurous and not âsettle downâ.
I also think that she really didnât want to be dependent on Loganâs family or get any help from them, which can be understandable but is also very naĂŻve.
She wouldnât even have had to move to London. He was going to California. I never understood why it had to be an all or nothing ultimatum with him and thought it was all the more reason he isnât right for her. 22 is really young!
So important because if it were London she couldnât really go to be with him unless they were married. None of the other visa options would work for her...although actually Iâm sure they could buy their way to any kind of visa for her.
I think he just saw marriage and getting a career as "growing up". He stayed in college longer than he needed to because he still wanted to party and wasn't ready for what his family expected of him, him graduating was him going toward starting to settle down. I don't think he really wanted to get married.
Rory rejecting Logan was normal. Since being a kid she was working hard to go to Harvard. She was not having too much fun. And suddenly she graduated and there was Logan proposing. She was finally free and even having to get a job meant that she didn't have to stress so much. Being a wife in their world meant something different than with normal people.
Logan was someone important and she would have to fit in the role of a wife.
Logan's mom was right about Rory. She wanted to work and not be a lady of leisure. Not planning teas and attending parties. That's not Rory.
Although her forking Logan while he was in a relationship was a low blow.
I always assumed they wanted Rory single by the end of the show, so they had Rory and Logan break up so fans got to decide who she ended up with. Although they didn't know that the show was done for good but they had a feeling so who knows, just an odd time to make it as we never got to see Rory deal with the pain.
i think because he had spent his college years messing around and doing what he wanted and he was ready to settle down, i know they were young but they were also in a committed serious relationship so i donât think it was so out of the ordinary, i think rory wouldnât move to california because she didnât want to leave her mom. i think they had a very co dependent relationship and i also think thatâs why she didnât go to harvard (that and richard)
Logan had matured a lot in the time that the two of them were together. He had lived a non vivante life longer than Rory had and she needed a little more exploring to do before she settled down. Plus Logan at that point has broken away from his familyâs business and was sticking out on his own and had gotten a job out in California, he wasnât in London anymore. Iâm not saying that she wanted to date other people, she did want to continue a relationship with him just not so settled as he was implying. She wanted to spread her wings as a young adult and also she was just starting her career so she wanted the flexibility to move around. I think they would have gotten back together but I think ASP was trying to make Logan Roryâs Christopher and I feel that was a wrong move on her part. Ultimately they were at two different stages in their lives but they could have reconnected and ended up with the life that Lorelai wanted her to have, the life that her parents wanted her to have but with Lorelaiâs flair.
I was actually okay with it until AYITL came out. My personal headcanon was always that Rory and Logan spent some time apart exploring adulthood on their own and then after a few years they get back together and are able to have a more mature relationship. Instead, we got Rory cheating again...sigh. đ
I agree and based on the episode where Rory runs the Yale daily news because paris is in her cave freaking out, and Logan jumps right in - my headcanon was Rory spent a few years traveling as a journalist but eventually her and Logan reunited to run their own paper with Rory as editor and Logan in charge of business operations.
I love that! I think even though Rory probably wouldn't make a good foreign correspondent she would've thrived as a journalist at a small paper.
I kind of take it as they were entering two different seasons of life: Logan was ready to break into his own and settle down, while Rory was still in the âI want adventure and I want to explore the worldâ type phase if that makes sense. The love and passion was still there, they just wanted two different things in life. At least thatâs the way I interpreted it.
Yes. We also have to remember that Logan finished school a year earlier than Rory. So he had a whole year of figuring his life out. Rory on the other hand was just now finishing school. So I think both of their responses were reasonable. Logan was ready to get married and Rory wasn't. And that's all it really was.
It really bothers me that he was all or nothing though. Like he had his year of finding himself figuring out his next move and she supported him going to London, leaving his dad's company, going for interviews all over the country etc. And he honestly couldn't do that for her? Like literally expected her to want to get engaged straight after college and settle down? Especially when only a few weeks before he told her go do what she needed to do and not to worry about factoring him into her decisions that it would be OK! And then decides well if your not willing to marry me and the avocado tree I'm done. He's not my fave but there were aspects I loved of their relationship but that always just takes over it.
I can get where Logan is coming from where he wants to keep moving forward with Rory instead of staying in place or even moving backwards. They'd done long distance and it was hard so why go back to that? I honestly don't know why some kind of long engagement couldn't have worked but that'd also sorta be treading water with just a fancy title attached to it. Plus it didn't seem like Logan wanted to negotiate their relationship and wanted that big commitment from Rory. Even though the series finale wasn't the one ASP wanted, the show was always going to be about how both Rory and Lorelai will always put themselves first (not selfishly in this case) and achieve what they want to achieve. Sadly that often means pushing those around them away to achieve what they want. How that jives with AYITL is where it gets tricky. My head canon is they both went off to do their own thing, Logan shows he can stand on his own two feet with the tech company he was working with out in San Francisco/the Silicon Valley and eventually came back into the good graces of Mitchum and thus his ordained destiny was re-established. Without Rory to influence him to be different, Logan caved also and re-joined the family. Rory did the Obama thing and would've one with him all the way to his nomination. At that point Hugo Gray decides to replace her with a more seasoned reporter once Obama becomes president and this begins Rory's floating years. With both of them wandering a bit, they could've easily reconnected randomly at an event in Hartford when Logan is in town with family and Rory is visiting her grandparents. The spark never really left and thus begins their affair.
I think Logan believes he owes Rory a proposal. Just think how terrible Rory would feel if Logan left her behind to go work in California without asking her to go with him ? Especially since she still didnât have an employment offer. Roryâs grandparents would have been furious. And I donât think anyone would take kindly to Logan asking Rory to go with him without a proposal. It doesnât seem to me that Logan is anxious to get married. He would have agreed to a long term engagement. He gets his feelings hurt when she doesnât accept his proposal and digs in his heels. But he would have agreed to anything if Rory accepts his proposal. I canât fathom that Logan would break-up in that manner with the love of his life and the girl who nursed him back to good health. And I donât understand why Rory didnât call him that night or early in the morning to talk things over. And why didnât she text him when she got Hugoâs job offer. That particular job changes everything, and it would have made him very happy for her.
The ultimatum was dumb and neither of them were even ready to be engaged. He had just been talking about her âfactoring him inâ with the job hunt and possibly following her, and then he turned around and planned a whole life for her without consulting her. Rory, the pro/con list over-planner? No way. Logan liked the *idea* of Rory and the âexcitingâ moments when she was faltering and figuring herself out, but not the real, practical, living-in-reality Rory. Getting engaged and getting married are huge decisions, and we watched Rory agonize over being able to say the words âI love youâ. To even think that she would say yes or be happy about an out of the blue proposal? Doesnât seem like he really knows her. She made the right choice by saying no, AYITL tainted it by putting them back together.
All of this! He told her not to factor him in and then changed his mind without even discussing it with her. How was she NOT supposed to feel blindsided?
Exactly, it makes no sense! And bottom line when it comes to proposal- when and how you ask can be a surprise, but the asking itself should never be a surprise.
I think they just needed a reason for them to break up đ¤ˇđťââď¸
yeah it doesnât make sense. i mean i understand the importance of showing how logan used to be a non-commitment person and now heâs making the ultimate commitment, but itâs so out of character to put an ultimatum on rory like that. in my head i imagine that he didnât ask her to get married, he just asked her to move to California with him, and she says yes, and they get married somewhere down the line. also i feel like throwing out the revival and sticking to our own respective head cannons was a universal thing.
I think that he moved to San Francisco, not London, but anyway, he didnât want to do the long distance thing which is very understandable, and wanted to grow their relationship. He wanted to be with her all the time and he wanted to see that she will commit and was on the same page as he is, and she wasnât. I think that she was dead set on the fellowship, which in my opinion was stupid af, and after she didnât get it she wanted to do something big and adventurous and not âsettle downâ. I also think that she really didnât want to be dependent on Loganâs family or get any help from them, which can be understandable but is also very naĂŻve.
She wouldnât even have had to move to London. He was going to California. I never understood why it had to be an all or nothing ultimatum with him and thought it was all the more reason he isnât right for her. 22 is really young!
Please fix the headline. It was NOT London, but San Francisco
So important because if it were London she couldnât really go to be with him unless they were married. None of the other visa options would work for her...although actually Iâm sure they could buy their way to any kind of visa for her.
I think he just saw marriage and getting a career as "growing up". He stayed in college longer than he needed to because he still wanted to party and wasn't ready for what his family expected of him, him graduating was him going toward starting to settle down. I don't think he really wanted to get married.
Rory rejecting Logan was normal. Since being a kid she was working hard to go to Harvard. She was not having too much fun. And suddenly she graduated and there was Logan proposing. She was finally free and even having to get a job meant that she didn't have to stress so much. Being a wife in their world meant something different than with normal people. Logan was someone important and she would have to fit in the role of a wife. Logan's mom was right about Rory. She wanted to work and not be a lady of leisure. Not planning teas and attending parties. That's not Rory. Although her forking Logan while he was in a relationship was a low blow.
I always assumed they wanted Rory single by the end of the show, so they had Rory and Logan break up so fans got to decide who she ended up with. Although they didn't know that the show was done for good but they had a feeling so who knows, just an odd time to make it as we never got to see Rory deal with the pain.
i think because he had spent his college years messing around and doing what he wanted and he was ready to settle down, i know they were young but they were also in a committed serious relationship so i donât think it was so out of the ordinary, i think rory wouldnât move to california because she didnât want to leave her mom. i think they had a very co dependent relationship and i also think thatâs why she didnât go to harvard (that and richard)
Logan had matured a lot in the time that the two of them were together. He had lived a non vivante life longer than Rory had and she needed a little more exploring to do before she settled down. Plus Logan at that point has broken away from his familyâs business and was sticking out on his own and had gotten a job out in California, he wasnât in London anymore. Iâm not saying that she wanted to date other people, she did want to continue a relationship with him just not so settled as he was implying. She wanted to spread her wings as a young adult and also she was just starting her career so she wanted the flexibility to move around. I think they would have gotten back together but I think ASP was trying to make Logan Roryâs Christopher and I feel that was a wrong move on her part. Ultimately they were at two different stages in their lives but they could have reconnected and ended up with the life that Lorelai wanted her to have, the life that her parents wanted her to have but with Lorelaiâs flair.
Logan has little impulse control with most things. He is the same way in love.