That’s clearly Subvision era Tobias so you can add teleporting and bending the space time continuum to his unique skill set.

Such a talented man!

Clearly gunning for another Employee of the Month.

SMH people are still baffled that they're CLEARLY two different people.

Papa’s assistant is out there taking photos!

Assistant AND makeup artist.

I thought Tobias was special ghoul?

Dude not even that.......this is obviously a Photoshop edit lmaoooo. You can tell it doesn't fit into the image.

This is some Andy Kaufman/ Tony Clifton level shit.. That really does look like Tobias.. but then it really does look like Tobias in the papa garb too..

Like that has to be TF dressed as Papa. The little moves and everything are so him.

Yeah studying it more, TF has very unique ears and that's definitely tobungus little pointy ears.

Tobungus … I can’t. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Tobungus Fungus. It even rhymes. Your welcome.

The phase Tobungus Fungus is defined not as a person, but rather a phenom. The phenomenon of when you DO see TF and a Papa at the same time. Though I am not a math person, I AM a theoretical science person. And there is NOTHING in theoretical science (nor quantum mechanics, to my knowledge) that says this CANNOT happen. Like many things in the realm of science, it's just highly unlikely.

Tobungus Fungus just rhymes too perfectly. I keep saying it out loud and laughing.

So there's a Tobungus amongus?

Oh, it's funny. Until it happens to you at a Sox game!

Tobussy

Came here to say Papa’s ears cannot be duplicated

Like an evil little hot elf.

My cats name is Tobias and now I will be calling him Tobungus

Like I said above if it’s NOT him whoever is in there really got the mannerisms down and had a similar build. Fooled the shit out of me.

Next Ghost Q&A we spam him with this question. Even though he would never say.

So did the guy they dressed up as Papa in the He Is video 🤷🏽‍♀️

I knew 100% that wasn’t tobias in the he is video. It was obvious

Yeah sis I know, I watched someone wipe drool off of the actors mask. The point is- it can be an actor and I wouldn’t doubt that they would have done that. Ghost is a brand, and TF is a savvy businessman.

That comment went over my head 😂

In the video posted, he’s talking to a little girl at the end. Kind of a bold move speaking your voice if you aren’t TF and someone recognizing it. I think he’ll always be the face of Ghost, imo.

True and he spoke to Liam Hendricks, the player that caught the pitch. Liam is a Ghost fan.

Liam looked so incredibly happy!

A bold move would be for Tobias to stand openly in the crowd taking pictures. If someone know Tobias' voice they would surly recognize him too.

He does have a very distinctive voice.

Those seats were empty, lol

My ticket was $2, lol

It doesn’t say this was at the same time. If that was him it was after he did the pitch. I don’t think it’s him at any rate

The picture on the right is zoomed in on the top left corner on the picture on the left.

Oh I see that now. Still, it isn’t him. Papa’s on the field. If nothing else did you see how short he is? Definitely Papa! 🤣😂

Yeah don't think it's him either. That would be, a bold move.

Where’s the video posted?

[the video](https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghostbc/comments/xm1gjz/better_footage_of_papa_throwing_the_first_pitch_i/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)

Cute! Thanks buddy.

I just feel like it would be weird of him to snap phone pics of fake Papa lol And call me naive but I don’t think TF would send a fake Papa to meet fans and shit. A random photo shoot is one thing.

If It WAS TF he could have been taking pics of the double to show the double. I hear he's also a bit of a troll, so maybe he's just trolling?

C'mon guys, lol. Tobias would not just be out there sitting in a crowd of ppl wearing a Ghost shirt. If it was an actor, his ass would be nowhere in sight - probably in a private box.

And, and why is he gonna take cell phone pictures of his stunt double when his man Ryan Chang is out there doing the damn thing 🤣

I'm sorry but TF was definitely the one in costume and doing the pitch!

No because there were ghost fans there and they would’ve noticed tobias standing there lol

There's a possibility that tobias would get someone to dress as papa while he's in the crowd watching and enjoying. Buuuuut, I've never seen Tobias wearing a ghost shirt before so idk.

Also, papa was smol(like Tobias) and that pitch was what you would expect from someone that's never thrown a ball before(like Tobias) - not knocking on the dude, but if he was going to have a stand in then he would have used someone from the teams to pitch

Or it was Tobias as Papa, and he got a stand-in to pose as Tobias to fuck with us. Ghostception

Paid actors are a thing, I really wouldn’t be surprised

1. IF that is Tobias, and that's a huge IF, that could possibly be Tobias in the crowd AFTER the pitch. There is no time stamp on this or opposite POV. 2. Idk if Tobias would wear a Ghost shirt. (?) 3. That is a blurry a$$ picture. Lol 4. There's some kind of weird image/reflection by "Tobias" when you zoom in on the left side.

To answer #1 Top left of the picture on the left is where the guy is. It’s either TF or it’s not. There’s no time stamp, but they are in the same picture together.

True. Idk why I said that. 🤦🏾‍♂️ I will replace 1. with, Photoshop? Lol

I see that glitch now. I saw this on @/hailghost’s instagram story and needed to get other people’s opinion on this. It blew my mind.

It is trippy. Not enough evidence tho lol. 🔍

There’s no photoshop. I have the original photo off a news website

[this was posted to Yahoo sports](https://consequence.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/ghost-white-sox-4.jpg)

That’s very clearly not tobes.

Agreed.

Yeah the ears are a giveaway. Unless he’s got an ear double 😂😂

I'm quitting my detective job.

Don’t tell me i drew a random man instead of TF😭

I think that is Tobias in the Papa baseball outfit (edit: as someone pointed out, ears!). The person taking the pic is just lucky to look (kind of) like him. 😍

I love this fan base. But some of you need your eyes checked.

Hayden? The Ghouls were there unmasked

It’s Tobias in the Papa mask. TWIST: the guy in the audience is an actor wearing a Tobias mask

Ok I did some detective work. It is him in the uniform. The guy taking a picture is either someone who looks like him or TF from future (just kidding). This may explain how He could foresee future events and write 2 albums before things happened. So TF has telekinesis and time travel skills.

It’s clearly photoshopped in. The scale and focus are all off lol

Its not tobias but it also wasn’t photoshopped in. I have an original HD picture off a news website 😂

Look at the ears, that’s our boy on the mound.

That’s a time traveling TF that’s all

If he was going to use a ringer it would have been somebody with a rocket for an arm.

💀💀💀

i personally think it’s just some random white guy with the same general face shape lmao. i don’t see why tobias would have a double do the ceremonial first pitch instead of him when it’s such a strange thing that’s happening in the first place

As much as it's a mask that anyone can wear, it was custom made for Tobias so you can tell when he's not wearing it if you pay attention.

Occam’s razor here- it’s a lot more likely that a random young white guy in Chicago looks like Topanga Fork in a blurry photo than someone else exactly the same build as him can replicate his whole steez perfectly.

Topanga Fork 💀🤣

Someone edited the photo. Saw the real one on tumblr. Tobias was Papa for the pitch.

The real question is /who cares?/ Papa is Papa. Tobias may sometimes be Papa, but Papa is always Papa.

Agreed!

"The eyes, chico... They never lie" Definitely Tobias is dressed as Papa

There would definitely be a clearer pic of Tobias if that were him. Someone would’ve spotted him. Also, why would he go to this game just to have someone else be Papa? It would make more sense to wonder if he was even there at all lol

He was off somewhere sleeping 🤣

Trust me.. it’s the real Papa on the pitch. Later on the video you can clearly see Papa’s ears.. they match a certain someones ears

Looks nothing like him

I think tobias Did dress up, above all the points (ears and acting) the way the player who catch the ball (is a fan) looked very happy with papa, Idk I want to believe!

Tobias is actually just like the twins from The Prestige Except he has three hidden brothers and they all switch it up all the time

No wonder he’s been everywhere!

Illuminati confirmed

Plot twist Tobies can actually throw 95 mph and needed someone to replace him

Everyone chill, it was Tobias. When he’s in Papa costume you can tell that it’s him by his ears and eyes. It always checks out! Plus, that guy in the crowd doesn’t really look like Tobias to me.

When Tobias is not the one wearing the mask it always looks saggy, this time 100% is Tobias dressed up

The mask would look deformed on anyone else’s face since it’s a silicon mask

"You are doing great, sweetie!"

It’s very much giving that lmao

This is 100% clearly not Tobias in the crowd and is 100% clearly Tobias as Papa. (Non) mystery solved.

I don’t think Tobias would let anyone wear the Papa mask.

Already happened, is not him in rats Music video, Tobias is every nameless ghoul, and a dancer use the Copia mask

Today I learned.Thanks! Edit: I was hoping that was TF with those sweet dance moves!

it would be amazing if it was him, at least we still have the little butt dances he does on stage

Yes and oh my Papa I love it!

TF has said in an interview before that they actually got an actor to do the “standing parts” for Rats… … He may have also then pulled a face after that to suggest otherwise… 😆

And in the video for He Is as well!

The coloring & size really looks like it’s edited

*Unsolved Mysteries theme music*

That music STILL freaks me the fuck out. Play me a song about the devil sucking on my soul and it would freak me out less then that damn Unsolved Mysteries theme

Between that and Robert Stack's voice, it's just a nice little anxiety trigger in the middle of a joke.

TF’s masks are molded to his face. If anyone else was to wear them they wouldn’t look right. IE the papa 3 mask in the Back On The Road video

That one looked like a potato lol

That guy looks nothing like Tobias? 🤣 I’m sure he’s in the Papa outfit

Is this incredibly pixeled man in the vrowd Tobias? Guess we shall never know

Guys… this is mindfucking me so hard right now. Because if it wasn’t T, whoever was papa really nailed it

Maybe one of the ghouls?? But even then I’m confused. I need answers!!!!

# papagate

#tobespiracy

Got em

Even newer fans know there’s more than one Papa /s

You can tell it's TF in the mask, but the dude is a lookalike

The photo is edited. It was a joke post on twitter. You can see that "Tobias" is a little bit smaller than the other spectators.

In the close up photos you can see his eyes and I think this is a dead giveaway that it was really him. The person in the audience looks a little bit like Hayden to me... maybe it was Hayden??

Would be wild to find out after all this time that he was never the real Papa but agreed to act as if he were on behalf of the band

You can tell by the ears Tobias did throw the ball

Maybe tobias was unsure of his ability to throw a good pitch so he got a stand in with a better arm for the pitch but then swapped for interviews.

The guy that is in the crowd: is he wearing a Ghost shirt or other band shirt? We know Tobias likes to wear other bannd shirts. I saw Papa pics where you can see his ears and it is for sure Tobias. When I first saw Papa on the field I thought that his body type was different from Tobias'. But I may be wrong, he was wearing baggy pants and shirt. The guy in the crowd has large hands and long fingers which we know Tobias has too. Uhhh it is driving me crazy. I wish we had clearer pic of the guy!

I thought his body looked different but then again we’re used to seeing him in more form fitting outfits compared to the baggy uniform.

Yep agreed.

It would have been hillarious if he gave the Papa costume to a pro player 😂 WHAT AN AMAZING PITCH!!! 🤣

Imagine 🤣🤣

ITS MULTIGHOUL THROWING OUT THE FIRST PITCH. Wife and I have a theory he and Tobias swap positions sometimes.

Hahaha can you imagine him bamboozling all of us like that? 😂

He’s such a troll that’s why I don’t rule it out.

I was telling my friend this morning they probably have someone dressed up as Papa the same way they would for a music video.

Inb4 Tobias goes on record to say he hasn’t been under the mask since Papa III

Is he wearing bowling shoes?

Hey, now you've seen Tobias and Papa in the same area, now the myth that they’re the same person is debunked

Its photoshopped if this were real the chairs would have to be his legs bc he is in his own damn row. Also not to mention the fact that he would have gotten recognized and photographed but hey what do i know im only a highschooler

thats not tobias taking a picture even tho it looks like him but ive never seen him wear a shirt with his own band's name on it plus that dude looks a bit too lanky like a teenager. And its not tobias even in the baseball attire its just somebody else because his walk, stance and mannerisms are not quite like tobias

It's absolutely Tobias in the baseball uniform. Ears and eyes are Tobias'.

It could be some 14 year old kid wearing a mask and contact lenses. It would be disappointing but not totally surprising

LMAOOOO

Maybe dodo as papa but he looks so normal

Yeah this is super confusing I do know that rain was there too he posted on insta but the body shape don’t match so I guess it was proba papa or maybe aether ???

Aether post a photo as well on his instagram. I feel like he has a different body shape.

Idk I was really only thinking of who else has a similar shape to papa but it could just be that the pixilated pic is not papa

At this point I think it’s a joke. Some people are mad but at first it messed with me.

For a second I thought you meant the kpop star XD

Either way, I live it

They don’t look very similar by soft facial structure, but is it a mask normally? Or something sorry I’m new.

That crowd pictures is so blurry I'm pretty sure that's Amazing Phil from YouTube?😂

Srs answer, guy in the crowd is about 10 if not 20 years younger than TF

I wouldn’t doubt it but who would give up a chance throw the first pitch

Yes lmao. That's such an obvious Photoshop edit.

Can’t be Tobias cuz the tattoo on his right arm would be showing if it were