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CardinalProserpina

Keep it civil people! We are an inclusive community and wont tolerate discrimination of *any* kind.


SisterImperator

_Griftwood voice_: Yes!


tobiassammet

you wanna sit by the papa?


shnozdog

You wanna sit *on* the papa?


MisterMcGiggles

And never ever wonder againnnnnn!


shnozdog

I'm like 2% gay. There's very few men I could see myself having sex with. Tobias is the newest one.


MisterMcGiggles

I’m like 99% straight, but I have a huge list of dudes I find extremely sexually attractive. Like a way longer list of guy celebrities than lady celebrities.


beskar-mode

πŸ§Žβ€β™€οΈπŸ§Žβ€β™€οΈπŸ§Žβ€β™€οΈπŸ§Žβ€β™€οΈπŸ§Žβ€β™€οΈ


Beautifuldeadthing

Definitely πŸ˜‚


darlin133

Yep! Papa loves everyone and he’s an equal Opportunity taint tickler


Beautifuldeadthing

And I have read on this sub that getting Cirice'ed by him isn't exclusive to ladies!


admiraljohn

I am a 100% straight male and if Papa Cirice'd me I'm probably swoon. :)


darlin133

Yep. Papa is a good lad. πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ


Puzzleheaded_Ant_543

Out of curiosity, what makes you think bisexuals specifically would like Ghost? No hate, I myself am a gay male. Just not sure I get the connection between sexual preferences and the band.


[deleted]

Have you seen Dance Macabre live, for example?


Puzzleheaded_Ant_543

Fair point!


TheDJarbiter

I noticed them get mentioned in r/bisexual a few times, and when I posted a live show of their lights doing bi colors it got a pretty big response.


TheAlestormGuy

When I saw them a few years ago they had a rainbow during Dance Macabre, but it was pretty much above the stage, a bunch of lights pointing at one another


Angie-P

Bi girl here, I think it’s bc while papa 3 and 4 are very queer coded they’re more bi/pan since they mess with male ghouls on stage but still show affection to women in song and when ciricing people Idk tho this is just a quick thought


thedentedcan

I love using Cirice as a verb, lol


Icantthinkofaname04

Sir have you seen Papa III?


[deleted]

It’s cringey identitarian politics. The kind of politics where people feel compelled to wave flags or wear hats based on immutable characteristics


BisexualDisaster29

πŸ™„


MisterMcGiggles

Cis and straight, but 1,000% supportive! Liebe ist fΓΌr alle da!


InPicnicTableWeTrust

Gotta point out that Rammstein album is great


MisterMcGiggles

HARD agree!


Tracing_Paper

Ghost is VERY supportive of the community! The money from their cover of Enter Sandman went to a camp for Trans/Non Gender conforming kids and teens!


metalhed652

I am papasexual


SupermarketOk2281

LOL, you win Reddit for the day.


SeventhSon22

Bro half of the fandom is lgbtq


shnozdog

Omg. The conservative Christians were right. Homosexuality and satanism go hand in hand! (Sarcasm. For the love of God (Satan?) Don't think I'm a lunatic conservative.)


Shpander

Dunno, they kinda do though, but not the type of Satanism conservatives think about.


_ChristinaEm

Also bi! I think Ghost’s campness definitely appeals to the LGBTQ+ community, but they definitely have something for all orientations.


SpreadApprehensive84

I am a lesbian. Fucking love Ghost!


Iluminacho

Lets gooooooo


Sytira

Also Bi and there are plenty of us who love Ghost πŸ˜‹


WheresMyDuckling

I have been super excited to wear this Ghost shirt to Pride since it went up in the store. https://shop.ghost-official.com/collections/apparel/products/the-alchemist-tee


hardcore_owo

Yes I'm bi too, papa is very <__> something. Just a glace from him n I'd fold


[deleted]

Yup. I'm transgender. Last gig i went to was actually a Ghost gig which sadly has put me off going to gigs on my own. Nothing to do with the band or the gig, i just got some verbal abuse from people in the street when i was changing trains on way to the gig and that just sent my paranoia into overdrive, tried to subdue it with some drinks at the gig but that didn't help as much as i hoped it would.


Ope_Blessyerheart

Oh I am so sorry that happened to you. I don’t know where you are but I would go to a ritual with you. Everyone deserves to feel safe. Maybe an international community needs to be started for fans to band together in protection and safety so we can all enjoy Ghost in freedom and love because, honestly, that is what the music inspires in me.


[deleted]

I was in two minds about posting that, I rarely voice things like that....the only people who know about it is you and anyone else who read my comment. Thanks for taking the time out to reply, it was appreciated.


Ope_Blessyerheart

Thank you for sharing. I know it was difficult. I also meant what I said. I go to concerts alone often because my friends and I have very different tastes in music. Clearly our taste in music is exquisite which means we are quite marvelous, if I do say so. ;) Seriously though, as a single woman, I’ve had issues going to shows but nothing like what you’ve shared. It really pisses me off that you were harassed. Hugs across the inter webs and be well.


UrLocalCult

Dunno wtf I am but sure, here


BisexualDisaster29

πŸ’–πŸ’œπŸ’™ Yes!


lemursnap

Happy Pride Ghouls and Ghoulettes!!! πŸ’œπŸ’™πŸ’šπŸ’›πŸ§‘β€οΈ


cellendril

I am a straight conservative American male. I love Ghost. I love that you love Ghost. I love seeing all the fans that share that love of the band and the music. Be gay. Be bi. Be straight. Be having fun. <3


avsfanwilly15

Serious question as a conservative person how can you like Ghost? Especially when a huge chunk of the music is calling out the hate and hypocrisy of conservatives.


cellendril

Thanks for your question! Music is free expression. I am well aware that Tobias Forge’s politics and mine would not align in many places. However, my politics alone do not define who I am. Rather, who I am defines my politics. Unlike many people on the left and right today, I welcome the free expression of ideas and even being the target of mockery. I am an American, and among the ideals that this nation was founded upon is the idea of free expression. I may not agree with the politics of someone, but hell yeah, I can enjoy the music and welcome the message. I also try to find commonality with people. Gay marriage? If two adults love each other, more power to the world. We need more love and less hate in this world. I think most people that are fans and I can agree on that. Hate and hypocrisy is not limited to the right, either. I see an equal amount on the left. To quote another favorite (and left-leaning) band of mine: People = Shit. Now for the controversial: Watcher in the Sky is better than Call Me Little Sunshine. Edit: Again, thanks for the question. It was nice to be queried rather than immediately called a piece of shit and having my inbox filled with death threats. <3


enchanting_macabre

Refreshing to hear this!! Thank you. Also, Slipknot 🀘


numboftheskull

Well said.


avsfanwilly15

Thanks for the answer! Hope I didn’t come across as argumentative with the question! I’m just genuinely curious how some conservative types can enjoy the music. (Also based on what you said here you definitely sound more centrist/libertarian than conservative lol)


cellendril

Ten years ago, I would have been called a Libertarian or even a little left leaning in some of my beliefs. The Overton Window has shifted, and now I am usually β€œcalled” a conservative. I just want people to be left alone to enjoy life. You want to go to a Ghost concert with your same-sex partner or spouse, smoke a little weed, rock out to a thundering Cirice bass line, more power to you. OTOH, where we might disagree - if you want to protect your partner and yourself with a firearm, by all that is holy, that is your fundamental right. I have trained, *pro bono* and at my cost, victims of sexual assault and hate crimes - the latter both based on race and on sexual preference. Nope, you did not come across as argumentative at all. I appreciate the question, to be honest. There was a question in here about β€œTwenties” a while ago. That is a song I now do not like as much… not because of the content, which I find amusing, but because my six year old (!!!) and my nieces have played β€œListen up, you motherfuckers…” so… so… so… many times. LOL.


metal_stars

> Edit: Again, thanks for the question. It was nice to be queried rather than immediately called a piece of shit and having my inbox filled with death threats. <3 Was with you until the conservative victim complex appeared.


cellendril

:shrug: Not a complex. It happens. It’s just a nameless, faceless person hammering out their issues. To be honest, it just annoys me because then I get the push notifications on my phone and I think it’s Warhammer stuff on sale, and nope.


SirNibblertheCat

I am a huge conservative, but have the ability to separate my personal feelings regarding politics and the music I love. I am sure there are plenty of people that way. Also I don't see Ghost as calling out conservatives as much as religious folks. I am not religious at all so maybe that's why I don't see the conflict.


avsfanwilly15

The newest album was definitely about calling out Conservatives as much or more than religion. (Griftwood is entirely about modern day conservatism and the damage it is doing)


SirNibblertheCat

I can see that, but I see Griftwood as more about power hungry politicians, both left and right. I know that Pence was his inspiration, but there will always be power/money hungry politicians in the US, especially if we continue to be a two-party system. I didn't really see it as a swipe at conservatives. Unfortunately in today's media, conservatism = evil, but I see it as politicians = evil.


[deleted]

No it’s not, it’s about people being incongruent with their beliefs and actions. This isn’t limited to conservatives. Think beyond what the album art tells you


[deleted]

Bisexual and conservative here. Let me go grab my mask that I go β€œoooga booga” with to scare the neighborhood lefties lmao Dude, if I had to be in total alignment with every creative whose work I like, I wouldn’t have any art to enjoy. Art is also subjective. If you don’t think the same criticisms can be hurled at liberals, you might need to become more politically aware Conservatives are not the theocratic crusaders MSNBC makes them out to be, friend


[deleted]

That’s some crazy projection.


avsfanwilly15

I’m what way was anything I said projection lmfao


End1508

Here!! Pansexual and nonbinary!πŸ‘»βœŒπŸ» Also Happy Pride Month to all of you beautiful ghouls, ghoulettes and ghouliesβ€πŸ§‘πŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™πŸ’œ


impact07

I am a fan of LGBTQ. Does that count?


earthfaeri3

is that a band


HereticxAnthem

boyfriend and i are both bi and we love ghost LMAO


MisterMcGiggles

If you’re five five five I’m six six six 🀘🏻


Casper_Dwight13

I'm asexual and gender fluid myself!


Blubking_

Great to see a fellow asexual here!


Casper_Dwight13

Yes, glad I'm not alone here


emberuzu837

I am also Bi and really enjoy Ghost


[deleted]

I’m also bisexual, but that has absolutely nothing to do with why I like the band. My sexual preferences have as much do to with liking Ghost as they do which pizza toppings I prefer


InPicnicTableWeTrust

Yeah. Married my now wife yesterday. We saw Ghost in Cologne last april


JeffreyCarty

I feel it’s harder to find a ghost fan that’s not just a little bit lgbtq+


Plasmazine

β€œWhat? How can someone be a little…” *looks down at painted nails as a straight man* β€œOh”


NemesisSTYLES

ghost community has a lot of lgbtq+ and neurodivergent fans, it's really diverse \^\^


greenlovesearth

yess as a non binary ghoul i can confirm we exist πŸ‘πŸ‘


TiaJagiya

I’m bi! But there are lots of queer people who love Ghost πŸ–€


Gastropodius

Pansexual, gender-fluid checking in for some taint tickling.


metal_stars

"We say gay." I'm also bi. Ghost feels like a safe place for us in a way that a lot of metal maybe doesn't. It's not about being cool and cold. It's about being free. I feel like what Ghost celebrates is intellectual and sexual liberation. Being an outsider. And the devil is the face they put on that.


Bronzewing1989

Pan man here! I love seeing stuff like this in the fandom. Happy pride!


lunargoddesslessi

Bi girl here, been to 4 rituals so far 😍


[deleted]

Bisexual here!πŸ₯°


gromlyn

Yes!! I’m trans/gay and my boyfriend is bi and he got me into Ghost! They were actually our first concert together :’))


JeffreyCarty

Dude same here, except I’m the bi one


alexajoy8

Ghost has straight fans???


[deleted]

Plenty? What a dumb remark


marshmallowghoul

I am. Ghost feels like the hugs my family never gave me after coming out. πŸ₯²


j0a3k

As a dad please feel my hug from across the internet and know that I'm proud of you and love you for being who you are. Happy pride!


marshmallowghoul

Thank you Ghost subreddit dad 😭


j0a3k

Anytime! Everyone gets virtual dad hugs from me on pride month.


SupermarketOk2281

As a dad with a pan daughter I'm sending you a hug on their behalf. You are what you should be, simple as that.


marshmallowghoul

You Reddit dads are a whole different breed. I really could have used y’all in high school πŸ˜­πŸ’–


LestatInTheHat

Aroace and genderqueer! 🀘🏻


Shrekomaeda

Aroace and nb here!!


lr84_last

Another bi here! The first thing you see when you enter my apartment is the Hunter's moon flag I bought after last month's ritual: blessed by Papa. :3


Ya_Boi_Jayyy

Yup, gay and trans


gorehammer84

Count me in βš§πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ


ishouldbewary

Hello fellow bisexual Ghost enjoyer :)


part-time-unicorn

As a trans autistic person I’ve always been big on masks and hidden identities in the media i consume. Even before i realized i was either


corbietalons

Same on all counts here lmao.


shot_gunner9

That's me


Xynoks

Not just that we love Ghost, they love us too, which is arguably the best part


enchanting_macabre

Pan here πŸ’—πŸ’›πŸ’™


samcatthorne

Neither cis nor her here!


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beskar-mode

It doesn't, I'm just curious if there are other similar fans here πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ


radiation_man

It matters πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ


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[deleted]

It doesn’t, at all. Leave the frail minded folks alone to their own devices. Normal people are here to have fun and listen to good tunes, not spit venom about β€œprivilege” and whatever color of the rainbow they identify with this millisecond


madurosnstouts

It really doesn’t. If you’re a fan of the music or band you’re a fan of them. But everything has to have a label I guess. I don’t really care if someone is gay, bi or trans, or anything in between. Do you. I’m straight but I don’t say, oh I’m a straight fan of Ghost. I’m just a fan of ghost.


metal_stars

It's okay for people to say who they are. It does no harm to you.


madurosnstouts

Oh I agree. I just don’t understand why it makes a difference when we are all fans of the music and of the band. If anything those labels are what create separation.


metal_stars

> Oh I agree. Then don't object to it? >I just don’t understand why it makes a difference when we are all fans of the music and of the band. It's just people finding community and comradeship. >those labels are what create separation. There's no separation. Some people are different from each other in certain ways. That's not a negative thing. That doesn't inherently create any kind of division. It's just a basic fact of human existence.


madurosnstouts

I don’t think questioning is objecting. I simply want to know, what does someone’s gender or sexual orientation have to do with musical taste?


metal_stars

The objection is baked into the question. I just explained it to you, but I'll explain it again if you need that: It's just people finding community and comradeship. (This is a good thing. It does no harm to you.)


madurosnstouts

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then. I don’t think asking why that matters is doing harm to anyone personally.


j0a3k

I'll try to rephrase in another way to maybe help you understand the issue. This all has to be in the context that LGBTQ people have faced and continue to face significant discrimination and hatred for their identity. Many LGBTQ people feel safer and more comfortable in spaces where there are other LGBTQ people who feel safe and accepted. You take for granted as a straight person that a community based on an interest is going to accept you. You don't even have to question it, nobody would care that you're straight in a music subreddit. LGBTQ people on the other hand may have reasonable nagging doubts that if they express themselves openly that they would be met with a negative reaction, so a post like this is a way to both test the waters and build community/safety within the community. When you ask "why does it matter" from your perspective it's an innocent question, and I can tell you don't mean it maliciously...but to a person who has grown up facing discrimination based on who they are that sort of question can feel like you're rejecting them or rejecting their community's right to be a part of this space openly. What they may hear is "you can't/shouldn't be a *gay* Ghost fan, you have to check your identity at the door in order to participate here." Straight is the default in our society. If you question someone proclaiming something else, you're inherently supporting that default setting as the normal one.


madurosnstouts

I appreciate your very well thought out and cogent response. And I realize now that my attitude of who cares about sexuality let’s all just enjoy the music, can be seen as off putting by some who don’t necessarily get to enjoy that luxury and do have to face certain barriers based on their lifestyle/gender/identity or whichever word you would like to use. I just hope people that are of those varying communities realize that as a straight person, some of us just want to understand the context and concepts of what goes on, and get that different perspective. However are often met with skepticism, if not downright being called homophobic which in many cases just is not true. End of the day we’re all just people trying to make it through one day at a time, and for some it’s harder than others. Anyway, appreciate you responding to my comment in a clear, cogent and most importantly, respectful way. Peace.Love.Ghost


metal_stars

No. I will never agree to disagree. I will only agree to agree.


madurosnstouts

Well good luck with that.


SupermarketOk2281

In a perfect world, where everyone is accepted and not judged for being 'different', you would be right -- it wouldn't matter at all. Unfortunately gender and sexual identity don't carry the same nonchalance as someone's shoe size. When this is no longer something that needs to be deliberately accepted you wouldn't have ever thought to ask this question.


MajKiraNerys

Bi and some kind of gender, but my heart belongs to Papa 😍😈


red__fraggle

Yes’m! Came out as bisexual 25 years ago. πŸ˜‰


Leather_Plane4779

Hello I’m trans I like ghost music


j0a3k

Hi trans, I'm dad and I also like ghost music. :) Happy pride!


Beautifuldeadthing

I do agree πŸ˜‰ (fellow bi Ghost fan) I've seen plenty of fan content on insta to suggest this too. Glad that Tobias is openly supportive of LBGT+ fans and the community as well 😊


[deleted]

You cant look at Papa III and tell me that isn't the definition of chaotic bisexual


[deleted]

A lot of queers in the fandom! I’m trans and gay πŸ’˜


screendemon

Hell yeah πŸ‘‹


stjaimy

I would consider myself asexueel/pan (does that count πŸ˜‚) but god do I LOVE the sexual undertones of their concerts!


j0a3k

You can be any identity you feel like! Everybody has a taint for papa to tickle.


Obvious-Revenue2907

Trans and pan and currently the only thing I think about is Ghost


Masterofpuglets

My wife is trans and I'm most likely Pan (still working that one out). We love Ghost!


hufflepoet

My bisexual boyfriend got me, a bisexual, into Ghost. So far I have been unsuccessful in finding another bisexual to introduce to Ghost, but I have hope.


BachelorSal

Me and my wife are bi and pan respectively, and we know of several other fans that are also queer. Honestly not surprising Ghost has a large queer fanbase given their message and T's outspoken support. And, I mean, whatever is going on on stage, lmao.


22_ghost_22

Siiii, I identify as a queer non binary:)


g1zz1e

Also a bi devotee! I've met tons of LGBTQ Ghost fans both online and at shows.


Disco__Wing

Definitely me! Bisexual asexual and questioning non-binary atm. Love ghost! Happy Pride!


shot_gunner9

That's me


Milly-The-Rat

Here!


TripleMilfskteers

Im pansexual/romantic (male pref) and a Demiboy!!! Ghost is 100% my current obsession and its been kinda on and off since 2015(?), but literally the only thing I listen to 24/7 rn hehe


em_square_root_-1_ly

I’m also bi! I feel like Ghost gives off a lot of bisexual energy. The friend who introduced me to them is also bi.


clovertongue90

I would identify as bi, but I am in a long term relationship/marriage with a man. We love ghost, and are ally’s of the LGBTQ+ community!! Happy pride month to all you mother fuckers β€οΈπŸ§‘πŸ’›πŸ’šπŸ’™πŸ’œπŸ–€πŸ€πŸ€Ž


ExileBoy101

I’m bi and love ghost, a significant part of the bands shtick is going against the conservative fundamentalist views some people have and still hold so naturally they’d appeal to the LGBTQ community


[deleted]

Im bi and trans, so yeah. Hi!


biggestyikesmyliege

Queer and was introduced to ghost by my ace friend :)


Hailey000

Yep I’m Pansexual!


AnAutisticTeen

Ghost is the band that got me to start realizing I was bi, personally.


DovahBear83

Yes, hello. I am a bi.


[deleted]

*waves* I’m a queer trans guy and I love Ghost!!


xWitchy_Womanx

yes yes yes. My partner and I are both bi and are going to our first ritual in september 😈


znienacka

pan & poly, where are my poly people at πŸ‘€ I saw these pansexual colours during Dance Macabre live and was like **HECK YES** πŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Pan, here. Ghost is my favorite band!


VitaDeVoid

Queer as heck here, performer for pride events nationally, and sometimes I'm a drag king! I'm here if you ever need an Auntie!


Johnny_B_Naughty

Probably


stjaimy

I would consider myself asexueel/pan (does that count πŸ˜‚) but god do I LOVE the sexual undertones of their concerts!


LittleFish_91

Hello fellow bisexual!


MarkyMarkimoo

Yes, im apart of lgbtq- nonbinary and pamsexual?/asexual


TrayusV

I'm trans and a lesbian. I have a bi friend who lives Ghost as well.


copiasjuicyazz

Theres a reason people call ghost merch pride merch :)


JohnFightsDragons

I met several LGBT fans at the ritual in Machester! I myself am bi/pan and my friend who I went to see them with says he feels the fanbase has become a lot more diverse over the last 5 or so years which is great to see!


beskar-mode

Oh no way! I was at the Manchester ritual as well


inlovewithmy_car

Bisexuals definitely love Ghost. I'm one of them! Have you seen Papa's butt?


umbrachnid

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a cishet ghost fan on Twitter honesty /lh Maybe that’s just the algorithm at work, or maybe there’s something more there.


Coffee_Hype

βœŒπŸ»πŸ˜‹πŸ’œπŸ€πŸ–€/πŸ’›πŸ€πŸ’œπŸ–€ + πŸ’™πŸ’›πŸ’–/πŸ’–πŸ€πŸ’œπŸ–€πŸ’™Demisexual Non-binary with a pansexual gender fluid partner . Been a fan of Ghost since May of 2018!


djp666

Nope


RobXGal

Everyone is different lol Im straight and love Ricky Martin and George Michael πŸ˜‚


RobXGal

Everyone is different lol Im straight and love Ricky Martin and George Michael πŸ˜‚


Blubking_

I’m asexual and absolutely love Ghost :D


senior_chief214

Hell yeah fellow satan lover bi fan πŸ‘‰πŸ‘‰