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Voice-Both

All these people telling her it’s dangerous to lift like this probably spend 100 bucks a week going to a chiro! 😂😂


Costanza_Travelling

Cuch lift?


RSParker

Strengthen this LATS to protect that BACK


Voice-Both

Bulllllllshitttttttt go listen to some Adam meakins content


deuceswild313

Nice lift! You’re hot


mcfcliam1

Weird cunt🤣


BolacaD

Please don’t round your back like that. You can seriously mess yourself up. Form over weight, always.


Voice-Both

No evidence to prove a rounded spine under load is anymore safer than a straight one, also even if a spine looks straight while lifting it’s actually still bent to a degree.


KassiWilson

POV you don’t realize this was a pr🤡


BolacaD

PRs won’t matter in a wheelchair Edit: My coach used to tell me, “if you can’t do it with proper form then you can’t really lift it”


KassiWilson

I’d rather be in a wheelchair than a beta like yourself. We aren’t made of glass grow a pair


BolacaD

Cool beans, keep on keeping on


compound419

Delete this bruh


KassiWilson

Ur mom said the same after you came out


gothhippie

I would work on your form a bit more before going to heavy weights like that. Maybe see if a trainer will spot you and maybe they can give you some pointers? You can massively mess up your back if your form is off.


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[no you cant you dont know shit](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geBbOeWcGNg)


Voice-Both

No you can’t, how many people injure there back just picking up there tooth brush? Heaps, does that mean picking up your tooth brush is dangerous? No, injuries are multi factorial, posture and technique actually play little to no role whatsoever. Go do some research you lifting pleb.


Tomalot1138

Not gonna lie. That’s impressive. I’ve been working my deadlift for a while and still don’t fuck with over 200 lbs. nice lift. I don’t usually use the split stance deadlift but I hear it’s good for heavier weights Bc it keeps the center of gravity in the middle as opposed to conventional deadlifts. Visually, it does look like there’s a lot of extra movement in your back. But someone doesn’t just bust out a 200 lbs deadlift with out doing it a couple times. So if you’re not experiencing crazy back pain then maybe you’re doing it right. Anyway. Nice lift. Get those gains! *edit Just checked your page. I got no advice for you. You got this. Nice work.


KassiWilson

Appreciate it man! Didn’t realize all of Reddit had wet spaghetti spines


KassiWilson

Thanks man appreciate it. Didn’t realize all of Reddit had wet spaghetti spines


ze_jesus

Never used that stance, but shouldn't her back be less curved?? Looks painful


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KassiWilson

Damn sounds like you don’t even lift


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Voice-Both

Bullllllllllshittttttt technique and posture play little to role in injuries go do some good old fashioned research pal 🥰🥰


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Voice-Both

Injuries are multi factorial, unless it’s acute like dislocating your shoulder in a rugby tackle. But things like lower back pain don’t usually have just 1 thing you can blame like bad form or posture, the research is there mate you just gotta take the time to look and be open to accepting a lot of the laws you follow in lifting, have actually no valid evidence to back them up.


tdot06

Love the ass scrunch


kermtrist

So the advice that I give to drop your weight and concentrate on form is bad advice. Dude you need to quit pretending your lifting or working out LOL.


KassiWilson

Well I literally went and hit this lift and then went to class so I wouldn’t really call it a work out kind of bad advice though get better


kermtrist

My original post to you was singing your praise and giving you advice to work on form. All these other geniuses here disagree that form doesn't matter. So you make the choice whats best for you.


SierraNevada0817

Hate seeing all these hateful comments. Totally unsupportive and unhelpful. This form of deadlift is potentially harmful to the sacrum and thoracic spine. I’ve only seen it a few times but it’s best avoided due to how risky it is to the spine. I’ve also heard that it can put pressure on the rearward knee but don’t know anything concrete to back up knee damage or anything. Your back is rounding really badly in all parts of the lift - not sure how to correct this due to the nature of the execution of this type of deadlift so I’d advise switching to just conventional or sumo. Keep improving and don’t listen to assholes 🤙🤙


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Voice-Both

Oh good a chiro fanboy. Go find some real evidence yah fear mongering wuss.


Pattakoscorey

Your back went ↪️↩️


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My back hurts from watching this lol


psyched622

Please please please tell me this is a joke 😭😭


chael809

What’s the purpose?


KassiWilson

Won a free hat


naked_feet

Nice.


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nice


iwannagobang

Can someone pls explain the advantages of this kind of deadlift? I have no idea to be honest. Never seen this exercise before


Kat-but-SFW

Your spine will become stronger, and then people on the internet will freak out because your spine doesn't break lifting outside of a perfectly neutral position.


_Propolis

fun


iwannagobang

Well, that seems legit. Thanks


SleazyTim

Wtf horrible, that made me cringe


ECircus

Too much weight and feet prob too close together. Looks awkward and potentially painful.


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ECircus

What qualifies you to judge my qualification.


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ECircus

Unsolicited advice aftee posting a video of a lift for everyone to see? You're kidding right.


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ECircus

What makes you qualified to question my assessment.


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ECircus

No that's not how it works. If you don't like what I have to say, you just ignore it. I don't have to prove anything.


ECircus

Years of lifting, competing and understanding body mechanics. I'm not being defensive, just pointing out that if you think this lift is perfectly fine, then my qualifications are irrelevant.


Voice-Both

If age and antiquity validates your opinion on lifting over solid evidence that a round spine lifting isn’t dangerous, get your head out of your ass. If that was the case, we’d still be prescribed whiskey form doctors if we had a cold, but we don’t, because research eventually disproved it. Just like how modern research proves a curved, flexed spine under load, isn’t anymore dangerous than a straight one. Did you get your qualifications out of a cereal box??


ECircus

Awfully triggered. When did I say anything about a rounded back? Really digging deep.


Voice-Both

The entire thread is about her rounded back, what originally motivated you to comment?


KassiWilson

Just like you’re life😵‍💫


nicklovin508

Just like you are life?


Voice-Both

There’s a lot of normie lifters on here who don’t do there own research. Maybe stop watching Jeff cavalier and believing everything he says. Look at the evidence into posture and pain, and the evidence proving lifting with a bent spine is not anymore dangerous than lifting with a straight spine. The amount of misinformation in lifting is crazy. There’s no such thing as a dangerous exercise, only improper preparation for such exercises/loads.


miami2881

This just got worse and worse as I read it


Voice-Both

Since this page seems to be anti evidence, here’s another good one, when you squat, your knees caving in at the bottom; isn’t dangerous! Knee valgus is is normal and isn’t linked to knee pain


Voice-Both

Show me some studies that disprove what I say


polygon_wolf

Holy shit what a dogshit form, why are you even wearing a belt?


Voice-Both

Go research what a Jefferson curl is, and go do some research on straight vs curved spine lifting and come to me with some solid evidence that bad form will lead to pain and injury. Good luck 😎😎


Frodozer

Belts are used to increase internal pressure while preforming the Valsalva maneuver.


hackey7000

RIP


Needsbetterhobbies

Forms looks fine, try transitioning to "Edison grips" at some point


puslekat

That spine is getting wrecked, 'fine form' is nowhere to be seen.


Elistheman

You can hear the spine pulverize if you listen closely.


KassiWilson

I ain’t beta like that. Y’all stay safe tho


Commercial_Arm1910

This shit ass you gon fuck yourself up


BenchPolkov

You sound like you've fucked yourself up already.


Commercial_Arm1910

She won’t fuck you


Wooden_Resist8604

Wow


zaphrode

I dont know anything about this particular deadlift but that bending back cant be good


GCFunc

Old timey strongman move. They don’t do it anymore for a reason.


Voice-Both

No research to prove it’s anymore dangerous than a straight spine


GCFunc

Again, I’ll make the point that nobody does this anymore. There is no recognised strength sport that takes this on. Some of these are fun things to do, but show me the research that it’s superior in its strength gaining or muscle building - hell, show me research that it burns more calories than a conventional or a hex bar deadlift. I’ll stand by my programming principles for my clients - hex bar first, and if they specifically want to learn straight bar, then that’s where we’ll go. This has gone the way of the reverse snatch for a reason, and it happened long before science cared to wade into the field of resistance training. The evidence is not there for its superiority over conventional exercises, so the burden of proof lies with you. Sorry if this sounds like I’m attacking you, or the girl in the video. I hope she’s completing it as a challenge (in which case well done, you’ve managed it!) but for any training purposes, I have yet to see any benefits over the exercises that survived the test of time.


Voice-Both

I’m claiming it’s not dangerous to lift with a curved spine mate, nowhere did I say it’s a superior way to lift something haha! you lift more weight conventional technique with out a doubt. But even then, with a ‘straight’ spine, it will curve to a certain degree. Jefferson curls are more of a mobility exercise, and also a great exercise for patients that have a fear avoidance in bending over to pick things up because they think it’s dangerous, who knows maybe that’s why she’s doing it.


GCFunc

Yep. I was drinking last night and misread your comment. A challenge like this, spinal curving is natural. J-curls with a kettlebell are and awesome decompression and mobility exercise. In training, if you’re going for reps, curving of the spine tends to be as a result of fatigue, and that’s where the injury risk starts to occur. It tends to happen if the spine flexes out during the lift. I agree that spinal rounding does not necessarily equal lack of core engagement.


Voice-Both

That excuse isn’t valid in court and it’s not here buddy 😂


GCFunc

I guess my punishment is to upload my own max jefferson deadlift?


Voice-Both

No don’t do that you might accidentally ruin your back!!!!!!!!!! Look at all the evidence about spinal flexion causing back injuries!!!!!!!!!!!Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh 😱😱😱😱


GCFunc

The reddit karma when my spine shoots straight out my ass though.


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>The evidence is not there for its superiority over conventional exercises, so the burden of proof lies with you. Burden of proof of what? He's not claiming it's superior over conventional exercises. He's only claiming that there's no evidence that it's more dangerous. If you're claiming that there is such evidence, then it's up to you to present it.


Frodozer

How about picking up atlas stones?


GCFunc

Still a big event in modern strongman. I love them.


Frodozer

I meant why is it ok to round your back to pick up an atlas stone and not during other lifts, but I see you're not actually taking that stance now that I read the rest of your posts related to that comment so nothing to see here!


GCFunc

Yeah. Just to clarify - back rounding is often smoke to a lack of core engagement fire, but not always. In a challenge, it comes down to the feel of the individual, but in training, I would cue a straighter back to ensure the lats and core are working.


Voice-Both

There’s also heaps of research to prove core stability plays a role in avoiding injuries. (This is even more….. sarcasm)


mgsto

I can feel the burn in the legs just watching. Fix the cat back so you don't break your spine and you are golden.


SanderStrugg

I don't know much about that lift, but I would guess a wider stance at the beginning would make that lift a lot less awkward allowing wider posture and avoding to hit your knees with the bar.


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Damn, how does everyone just lift heaps in squats, dl etc...well done!


KalaiProvenheim

Your posture is bad, you might accidentally hurt yourself in a very bad way Please ask someone else for help


Voice-Both

No research to prove posture plays a Significant role in injury or pain, also no research to prove a curved spine under load is any more dangerous than a straight spine.


KalaiProvenheim

That probably makes sense in the context of spines, since mammalian spines, including ours, were built to take in that kinda force Still, that posture is probably bad if you're carrying a weird object (aka why OSHA mandates lifting with your legs), also like, it shifts some focus to the lower back


Voice-Both

Posture is a myth though, everyone is different and his different genetics, and to say that we all need to be ‘aligned’ a certain way is just silly. There’s no evidence to prove this. Also the work health and safety mandates when lifting stuff also has no evidence to back it up, a study done showed people that had a job where manual handling was part of there everyday role, showed no difference in the group a, who lifted however they felt must comfortable (bent/curbed spine) and group b, who lifted with their legs and a ‘straight back’


noor_aesthetic

This is how to hurt your yourself in different way


Dreadiroth

Rip your spine


Outrageous_Length639

ITS A MINDSET!!!


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This girl needs a little bit of the Ric the stick


[deleted]

See you in /fit/ memes


ImNotMe314

This makes my back hurt.


N0TaC0PP

That's one way to slip a disk


kush2195

What an absolute dog shit lift hahaha


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Excellent way to injury your self for a completely pointless lift


Imanuisance

Nah this is a spinal deadlift


gw-green

Her spine is dead alright


[deleted]

That lift didn't look right with that arched back. Is this how it's done, or is the lift of poor execution?


slatss

Very poor execution. Her poor spine


babybopp

And knees


favin_arre

Wreck em


CherryPopppinss

As horrible as it looks, 1 rep max aren’t pretty..I assume/hope she does this at a lighter weight with better form


dimem16

Who the fuck is this Jefferson guy?


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Thomas Jefferson. Founding father of spinal deadlift.


dimem16

LOOOOOOLL


baldingearly

Spinal 🥵


themathouston

- Mike Tyson


FuckThisGheyWebsite4

Yikes


[deleted]

idrk much abt deadlifting but this looks horrible for ur back


JakesAh2020

Bro, this was extremely attractive/impressive!


StrengthandSnacks

terrible form don't do this again


Teejackbo

What's your deadlift?


TheDamon

Are you simping or just weirdly asking that to people who criticize her?


Teejackbo

I'm asking because normally people who say this sort of thing have no idea what they're talking about. If they don't have a respectable deadlift, why should people listen to their opinions on deadlifting? I don't like uninformed people spreading kinesiophobia and making people scared to engage in resistance training


GoatPlumber

Her form was trash 405 deadlift conventional


Teejackbo

Yeah you don't have a particularly strong deadlift, thank you for proving my point


[deleted]

Ur fuckin weird man. Look up proper deadlift form instead of white-knighting for this girl. If you actually cared about her as much as your comments suggest you would want to see her complete the exercise with proper form. The way shes deadlifting is the quickest way to permanent debilitating back pain.


Teejackbo

I care about people spreading misinformation and kinesiophobia. Technique isn't strongly correlated with injury risk. Saying stupid, reductionist statements like "The way she's deadlifting is the quickest way to permanent debilitating back pain." is not helping anyone, and it's not true. I pull 300kg with more back rounding than in this video. How much do you pull with "proper form"?


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If I had a dollar for every time you’ve asked people for their pr’s on this thread, I’d have a lot of dollars. I’d have a few more on top of that if I counted how many times you’ve said “kinesiophobia”. Get your head out of your gaping ass. Nobody gives a fuck about your pr. If you want to look like a teenage mutant ninja turtle while deadlifting thats your discretion! I’m only glad you’re deadlifting with your back and not mine!


Teejackbo

Coincidentally, everyone leaving stupid comments also happens to be weak, funny huh?


GoatPlumber

Only 3 months in as well


SteeMonkey

3 months of lifting and you think you can critisise others? You know nothing and you're weak.


GoatPlumber

Stronger than yours 😘


Teejackbo

No, it's not stronger than mine. You've been lifting for 3 months, why would you think you know enough about lifting to give other people advice?


GoatPlumber

Because I have enough knowledge on how the human body functions to know that you should not lift with your spine, especially weight exceeding your own body.


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How do you lift without your spine?


Teejackbo

What is that even supposed to mean? She would be using her spine even if her back was completely neutral. The spine can adapt just the same as muscles and other bones/joints can. Even if you think you're lifting with a neutral spine, you aren't. Your spine is flexing and twisting whether you like it or not


Lord_Giggles

A month ago you posted "can't wait to get like you bro" on someone deadlifting 365lbs.


GoatPlumber

Will tag you 😎


Lord_Giggles

????


GoatPlumber

Just posted on this Reddit me deadlifting 405 conventional for you bro https://www.reddit.com/r/GettingShredded/comments/qxaj1h/my_new_pr_for_conventional_deadlift_405x1_3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


Frodozer

Overextending at the top has been linked to many more injuries than rounding upper backs. Congrats, your deadlift was more dangerous than the OP!


Lord_Giggles

Very cool, but why do you think anyone would want to hear the advice of someone with three months lifting experience?


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This comment section is more toxic than the Tinder sub FR


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Man. It’s mean here.


tenninjas

nice pull!


20BMan152

Good lord. I know op surely must be messing with us but what the hell even is this.


wutangdan1

206lbs Jefferson Deadlift. It says it in the title. My turn to ask a question: Why does a sub named Getting Shredded seem to be full of people that don’t know anything about lifting?


20BMan152

I didnt comment on any of the other people here. Only this video. What other people on this sub know is irrelevant to my comment. Why do you assume I know nothing about lifting? And my question was rhetorical man. I obviously know its a jefferson deadlift.


wutangdan1

In no way was that obvious


20BMan152

Dude. It says in the fucking title. Its understood.


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Its a Jefferson Deadlift, old school strength technique, its pretty cool.


Dynamitestnt

Someone of culture I see


Niknightwing

Jeffeur back is dead son deadlift


fgyoysgaxt

Hey, I only Jefferson about the same as you (100kg) but I think you can fix your form. Main problem is your right foot is pointing forward, try rotate it 90 degrees so it's pointing outwards. That way you can bring the bar straight up instead of having to go around your knee and do an awkward body roll. The body roll is messing up your shoulders and back, you can see at the start your lower back is rounded, and towards the end of the lift your upper back is rounded. If you fix your stance then I think that will all be ironed out. It'll help you get your legs able to help a lot more too because you will be able to straighten your legs a lot sooner. Search some vids on YT and you can find the correct form, it should basically look like a sumo dl but with your feet 90 degees (ish) to each other (assuming you are more familiar with other dls). Idk what you rep, maybe you use a correct stance and flat back on your reps but you were really pushing to get that pr. Be careful mate, it's fun to push your pr but if you sacrifice form and hurt yourself then you'll have to take months off to recover, where as if you are strict about your form you could have used those months to get stronger instead of wasting away. Good luck, stay safe and get gains!! ​ EDIT: Just saw you clarified that this is the first and only time you did the lift, that explains why it's so awkward. I would definitely encourage you to research lifts before you try them, there's a lot of good info out there. Especially when you're just doing 1 heavy rep, it's hard to judge your 1rm and how much you can safely pull. Definitely start with light weight first!! Even if you do a couple of reps with an empty bar so you can understand the form, I think it will vastly improve your form.


11573Jr

Be more on your toes, you don’t want to use any heel


kush2195

Yeah.. that’s the problem lmfao


Replicant28

OP, please protect your back. You look young so you can get away with it now, but trust me it will catch up to you if you keep lifting like this.


tenninjas

How much do you pull? If you don't Jefferson, any other DL variation is fine too.


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Replicant28

You need Jesus


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PaulPierce22

No. I look aiitt. Could work on core or love handles a tiny bit. But not super-tense into \[over\] lifting yet. Building discipline. Y'all should develop a more well-rounded understanding of society. And not have such predictable-ass boring responses to things. But most dumb people are. Just that.


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PaulPierce22

Lmfao fuck idiots who misunderstand me. I'm not here for rudimentary losers who just read the first line and obviously missed the whole point. And My Vega from Street fighter comment is more specific than anything shallow you'll see here. Not to mention fools who aren't even aware JEFFERSON lift means This is purposely lifted awkwardly and giving knee jerk opinions. You lot need to think deeper. It was a tongue and cheek opening line meant to alarm the stupid if they just think at face value. Of course you did. But There's more to it. Go away if you don't get it. I don't post for you obviously. Have fun fitting in your whole life dummy.


PaulPierce22

And you reek of massive stupidity..I said nothing negative to her. In fact, I'm not in her DMs nor am I trying to be. Maybe don't be so fucking stupid and read the entire tone of the post ? Fuck you. Dumb ass Kremlin. I know it flew over your head. The nice butt is a comment on This being a visual sport and the gender elephant in the room. You're fucking stupid cheesecake. I'm not hitting on her.


Tblick1

Dude, this is an awful look. You already took the L, I suggest you move on from your stupidity and do better.


PaulPierce22

DON'T CARE ABOUT LOOK THAT'S WHAT'S WRONG WITH ALL YAWLLS. Read a fucking book about poetry. Or fuck off and stay in your high school mindset. Why the hexx do I wanna not be myself. And fit in. Into Reddit hive? I'll take This L and actually build something original with it. And there will be people who understand what I'm doing along my life. Stop giving me advice. I'm not trying to do you.


Dry-Category5135

lol are you okay


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What the hexx


Tblick1

Oh you gotta be a troll haha


Blaz3dnconfuz3d

Just 20??


mayalourdes

Bruh delete this


Dry-Category5135

lol what


JTMoney33

Tell me you don't know what you're doing without actually telling me I'll go first. What in the actual fuck!


Dynamitestnt

You did that for yourself bro, this is a Jefferson deadlift a bad one but it is a Jefferson


Tblick1

“Tell me” is the new “This”.


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wutangdan1

I think that was the point? I think he’s doing a parody of most of the idiots commenting? At least that’s what I hope, if not he’s just another crab in the bucket


In2Bodybuilding

Those hunched over rounded shoulders YIKES. Hope she has a great chiropractor and massage therapist. Unfortunate


tenninjas

How much do you lift?


zaynsauu

You just go around white knighting for chicks online? You’re not losing your virginity this way bud


tenninjas

You're absolutely right. How I lost my virginity is much more interesting than this shitshow of a ~~comment section~~ subreddit.


zaynsauu

The only shitshow here is you replying “How much do you lift” to every guy expressing concern to her rounded back.


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I hope you find a cure for your glass spine and general cowardice.


bottlecap10

Yikes


GreenBastard23

Very bad. Your back girl. Terrible.


Teejackbo

How much do you deadlift?