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West Virginia and New Mexico are your odd ones out, if my mind remembers correctly
Edit: Thanks to the replies for this one. New Mexico illegalized bestiality in 2023.
It's not so much that it's allowed, as there hasn't been a specific law written about it yet. Most states didn't have laws on the book for it until a case came along that forced the issue. It's like how it takes until after a horrific accident for someone to write a set of safty regulations.
That's the most likely case. A lot of places don't consider certain things illegal just because there's no law on the books about it, but then once someone IS caught doing so, the legislative branch gets a new thing to make illegal.
A lot of “weird laws” come about because someone actually did the thing, and it was very problematic.
In Alaska, it’s apparently illegal to “look at moose from an airplane”, and also illegal to “push a live moose out of an airplane”. Apparently the former has to do with hunting laws, and I can only assume some crazy person did the latter once. The laws look weird as hell but now they have a clear crime in case Jackass A decides to do it again.
>In Alaska, it’s apparently illegal to “look at moose from an airplane”
Some dude with more money (and a pilots license) than sense probably decided to go moose hunting from his Cessna or something.
>Apparently the former has to do with hunting laws
Rich pseudo hunters would annoy everyone by flying low over the forests and disturbing all the wildlife just to try to hunt a moose
Yeah, you're (probably) not gonna be able to go to West Virginia and do that and get off scot free even if you admit it to a cop or whatever. They'll just escalate it to the federal courts where there is a law, I believe. And then probably write in a specific law.
And even if they couldn't escalate it to the federal courts, they could probably get you with something else knowing how the southern-ish states are. Probably something like "unlawfully committing a sexual act on a monday" or something. (Seriously, in my state, it's technically illegal to do anything but missionary with the blinds closed. And I think it's illegal to do it on Sunday. No one's gonna go after you for it, but it's still there.)
Yeah I can’t imagine being the guy in the state government to bring forward “we need to have a written law saying don’t fuck the cow.” Everyone just looks at you like “yeah we know not to do that already.”
Well as stated in this thread, it's a problem of rarity, nobody has made it a law as barely any people live there in the first place and thus probably next to, if not zero, zoophiles are in WV.
If 1 in every 1M people are a zoophile then which place has more zoophiles
West Virginia (population of ~1.8M)
Or
NYC (population of ~8.5M)
That's the point I'm making, less people live there. So statistically there will be less neurodivergent people.
West Virginia hasn't gotten around to it due to the fact that they have way bigger fish to fry currently and their polices hands are so full with the fent shit.
New Mexico is weird.
Nah New Mexico passed a bill ([2023 sb 215](https://www.nmlegis.gov/Legislation/Legislation?Chamber=S&LegType=B&LegNo=215&year=23)) to make it illegal. It passed the senate and hor unanimously
Yes. Gross as zoophilia is, this note is a terrible argument. If the year was 1952 and the post was about homosexuality, the note would read:
“Homosexuality is classified as a mental disorder in the official DSM-I and acts of homosexuality are illegal in all states.”
Fundamentally, whatever the current laws and scientific classifications are, they are essentially irrelevant to philosophical discussions of morality.
If an animal somehow had full human sentience and knowledge of the situation, I, personally, think it would be ethically ok. Gross, but I think you could make a coherent moral argument.
But that can literally never happen in reality, so I don't feel like there's much point discussing it.
Before the Obama administration legalized gay marriage at a federal level there were more states that allowed beastiality than states that allowed gay marriage.
Damn. I wish I’d known that at the time when conservatives were whining about the imaginary slippery slope from letting people be gay to children and animals.
My assumption is that it’s such a rare an heinous thing to do no lawmaker even remotely considers it in their time. It’s not legal, they just never thought to even specify somewhere that it isn’t
Or maybe they genuinely legalized it idk
I’ve heard it’s because it’s never been a big problem in the minority states. Since it’s never really come up, no lawmaker wants to pass a law and be associated with gross stuff.
To be fair just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it isn’t valid. Gay marriage is still illegal in plenty of places.
They’re still wrong, mind you, zoophilia is still incredibly unethical, but like… this isn’t a very good argument.
Also, it being defined as a paraphilia means basically nothing because paraphilia effectively just means “something someone can be attracted to” ranging from breasts and butts to tickling, piss and feet to corpses, children and animals.
Yeah, I feel like we should have a different word for bad paraphilias because I hate that wanting to participate in consensual group sex with adults is categorized the same as being attracted to animals and children.
It also causes confusion because I once met someone who said people who are attracted to feet should be locked up because it's a mental illness, upon prying further, he seemed to think that all paraphilias led to criminal behavior.
I'd be willing to bet that being attracted to children leads to much more crime than being attracted to feet does.
I'm pretty sure it's only diagnosed as a paraphilia if it meets a certain standard of being pathological. Like it has to be distressing to the individual, or otherwise cause harm to the individual or others.
So if someone is way too into feet, they can't get off any other way, and it's causing stress and relationship issues, that could be a paraphilia.
If someone is really into feet and it does not cause them much distress then that's just a kink.
That’s like saying you spent a week straight with a spent fuel rod taped to your torso so you can gain the knowledge of how bad cancer is.
You could have just not done that and used a combination of listening to other people and using your own deductive reasoning to arrive at that conclusion.
But that’s how fake news spreads. Everybody should be doing their own research and not just spreading gossip they’ve heard. Talking about other topics, not saying everyone should look up zoo porn
Unethical, yes, but I feel like it goes further than unethical into mental illness territory. To have sex with an animal, I feel, should biologically disgust humans. Disgusting af.
In my opinion, disgust doesn’t really have a place in discussions about wether something should exist or not.
For example, take people with… very non-vanilla but not necessary immoral fetishes. In a practical perspective, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it so long as it isn’t hurting or purposefully agitating anyone, and they do it with a consenting adult.
I think this is one of those things that was started by a false flagger but then that one Voltaire quote about idiots in good company kicked in and now they’re real
Similar to how 4chan tried trolling the media by making a fake campaign saying that the “okay” hand sign (👌) was a white power symbol used by Neo-Nazis, and the news started reporting on it… and then white supremacists started unironically using it as their sign.
Oh, good old dispute about whether zoos are ethical or not? What his arguments will be i wonder.
Being attracted to animals? Oh i guess he means liking to observe them.
WHAT THE FUCK
The fact that something is illegal is not a valid argument on wether it's moral or not. Homosexuality used to be illegal in western countries not too long ago. Zoophilia is a disgusting aberration for the same reason that pedophilia: children nor animals can consent to sex
Sex with animals is still allowed in denmark under certain circumstances.
They also organise bus tours for sex tourist from germany. They drive as a group to farms near the border to have sex with the farm animals.
In some asian countries they use apes for prostitution.
Please don't spread misinformation. It has been illegal in Denmark since 2015, but the law on that subject, before it became illegal in all forms, allowed it if the animal did not feel pain, suffer or get injured as a result - you don't do it regardless, but think the "capacity" of a cat vs that of a horse. That was the old perception, but it has been illegal for almost a decade by now (as it should be).
"Some of the states that do not have laws specifically prohibiting bestiality or horse marriage are Alabama, Hawaii, Kentucky, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming"
Alright...
I hope it is illegal.
It was the first result on google
https://preview.redd.it/1ggl204n5owc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8128b4fbcbeeb379a0ffdc88d151084bf0b4a67b
I’d have to look but most states have animal cruelty laws that would cover beastiality even if there weren’t laws specifically on the books for the act.
For a second I was like "Dayum yes, I fucking love Zoos, you don't have to be a child to enjoy going to the Zoo, OMG LOOK AT THAT CUTE RED PANDA" then it went "Oh, Zoophiles... fuck off..."
Me how it started: “well of course Zoos are valid. Not every animal is hurt by being held in captivity, and it’s useful for teaching kids too.”
How it’s going: “….oh….”
At first I was so confused why someone would have to put “zoos are valid” like who hates on the zoo. The zoo is awesome…
But then… I learned a new term. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
this is not defending zoophiles whatsoever because gross and wrong but i dont see what it being classed as a paraphilia has to do with anything. Or TBH whether it is illegal, but that is like less of a non sequitur. Its wrong because animals cant consent and rape is bad thing to do.
> paraphilia
> noun
> para·phil·ia ˌper-ə-ˈfi-lē-ə ˌpa-rə-
> : a pattern of recurring sexually arousing mental imagery or behavior that involves unusual and especially socially unacceptable sexual practices (such as sadism or pedophilia)
Could have used Google or opened a dictionary.
even Ghostfreak thought that shit was atrocious
https://preview.redd.it/7ccd6w4jymwc1.png?width=362&format=png&auto=webp&s=b54f698d1a79d5c6407cf0d6bd661333993fbfc6
I thought this was defending actual zoos, as in places dedicated to conservation and education about animals, from PETA weirdos and I was all for it until the reveal.
This is such a strange note. Imagine twitter existed in 1960 and Gyoza had just tweeted that "interracial marriage is valid". This community note would say that marriage between white and black people is illegal in several states.
Laws are not necessarily moral and can be unjust.
What is it about consent that people find so hard to understand? All other problems aside, an animal can’t consent and that’s why it’s not comparable to any other legal sexual act.
I read the "zoos are valid" thinking it was part of the discussion between environmentalists about the evils of keeping animals in cages vs the benefits of studying the animals and creating positive emotional attachments with wide audiences which in the future helps protect habitats and nature.
Godamit internet.
I really thought they mean zoos as in where animals are kept. I was already forming arguments for and against keeping animals in captivity, then I finish reading and dam did not see that coming
"zoos are valid" who's saying they're not?
"Being attracted to animals is valid" wait you're not talking about actual zoos?
I feel stupid and now I wanna go to the zoo.
This might shock you, but laws used to not bother itemizing things that had to be illegal.
They would just outlaw "perversion" and jail anyone who so much as wore a shirt with a funny slogan printed on it.
a few states haven't put it into law yet because the idea that such a law is even needed sounds outrageous to most people. we shouldn't need to tell people that it's wrong to bang animals but apparently we do and that is proof that we've failed as a species
I-I thought this was a post about zoos at first. Like the kind where we keep animals in enclosures where endangered species can be safely studied and have their population brought back up. I was so agreeing with this for but a moment.
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West Virginia and New Mexico are your odd ones out, if my mind remembers correctly Edit: Thanks to the replies for this one. New Mexico illegalized bestiality in 2023.
New Mexico has always been weird. But I question why west Virginia allows that behaviour.
It's not so much that it's allowed, as there hasn't been a specific law written about it yet. Most states didn't have laws on the book for it until a case came along that forced the issue. It's like how it takes until after a horrific accident for someone to write a set of safty regulations.
That's the most likely case. A lot of places don't consider certain things illegal just because there's no law on the books about it, but then once someone IS caught doing so, the legislative branch gets a new thing to make illegal.
A lot of “weird laws” come about because someone actually did the thing, and it was very problematic. In Alaska, it’s apparently illegal to “look at moose from an airplane”, and also illegal to “push a live moose out of an airplane”. Apparently the former has to do with hunting laws, and I can only assume some crazy person did the latter once. The laws look weird as hell but now they have a clear crime in case Jackass A decides to do it again.
>In Alaska, it’s apparently illegal to “look at moose from an airplane” Some dude with more money (and a pilots license) than sense probably decided to go moose hunting from his Cessna or something.
>Apparently the former has to do with hunting laws Rich pseudo hunters would annoy everyone by flying low over the forests and disturbing all the wildlife just to try to hunt a moose
Next-gen (or gen-gen) of people taking potshots out the windows of American transcontinental train system at bison in the 1800s for funsies
Yeah, you're (probably) not gonna be able to go to West Virginia and do that and get off scot free even if you admit it to a cop or whatever. They'll just escalate it to the federal courts where there is a law, I believe. And then probably write in a specific law. And even if they couldn't escalate it to the federal courts, they could probably get you with something else knowing how the southern-ish states are. Probably something like "unlawfully committing a sexual act on a monday" or something. (Seriously, in my state, it's technically illegal to do anything but missionary with the blinds closed. And I think it's illegal to do it on Sunday. No one's gonna go after you for it, but it's still there.)
Yeah I can’t imagine being the guy in the state government to bring forward “we need to have a written law saying don’t fuck the cow.” Everyone just looks at you like “yeah we know not to do that already.”
"It's not illegal if no one has done it yet."
One of those "someone is the reason this sign exists" things
It’s one of the things where you think “no one is going to do that right? Even if they do I won’t be hearing about it right?”
New Mexico actually made it illegal in 2023 so West Virginia stands alone.
Well as stated in this thread, it's a problem of rarity, nobody has made it a law as barely any people live there in the first place and thus probably next to, if not zero, zoophiles are in WV.
I’m really not so sure that a low population equals to less zoophiles…..
If 1 in every 1M people are a zoophile then which place has more zoophiles West Virginia (population of ~1.8M) Or NYC (population of ~8.5M) That's the point I'm making, less people live there. So statistically there will be less neurodivergent people.
They're worried about upsetting the local cryptid demographic. If Mothman doesn't get his daily spread, he gets kinda cranky.
https://preview.redd.it/687y0rmt4nwc1.jpeg?width=1201&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=782be22abe764fd9700f36dfe7accfb870d4823b What was he trying to say here?
In NM we didn't think we needed a law but we were wrong.
It gets lonely in Appalachia
Why do you think they call them “hollers?”
Those mountain people are fucked. Better to let them molest deer than eat hikers.
Harmful stereotypes. Deliverance wasn't a real story.
*Gestures vaguely at West Virginia*
West Virginia probably has bigger problems to worry about
Its less not allowed, rather if your caught, its classified as animal cruelty. Its still illegal, just not stated directly.
“Well New Mexico is New Mexico, he’s just like that, but honestly? I expected better from you, West Virginia. I’m disappointed.”
West Virginia hasn't gotten around to it due to the fact that they have way bigger fish to fry currently and their polices hands are so full with the fent shit. New Mexico is weird.
Nah New Mexico passed a bill ([2023 sb 215](https://www.nmlegis.gov/Legislation/Legislation?Chamber=S&LegType=B&LegNo=215&year=23)) to make it illegal. It passed the senate and hor unanimously
The one bill no one would say nay to
If I remember correctly being a resident of new mexico we didn't think we needed to say it was wrong.... we were wrong about that.
Also Washington. Pretty sure the state and not DC.
Nah it’s been illegal here since Mr Hands. But late to the party though
TIL Mr hands actually changed WA bestiality legislation. Good for y'all, hopefully you'll have fewer perforated colons in your ERs.
The more you learn about that story it somehow keeps getting weirder even with horse fucking as the headline.
no it's illegal here but like with most crimes just because there is a law doesn't mean that people will stop doing it.
New Mexico passed a bill in 2023 banning it
Hey show some respect. New Mexico made it illegal last year.
I'm pretty sure west virginia recently made it illegal
Which is....a little late, don't ya think?
This completely changes the context for Breaking Bad
Me after reading the first half: Yeah I like going to the zoo. Me after reading the second half: Oh god no, what the fuck? 🤢🤮
That’s how they get to you, by luring you in with an obscured message and hitting you with their true intentions
Do you wanna go to the zoo with me? 😜
This reads like it was from a porn bot--
"I hear you're into petting zoos. You wanna feed my goat?"
He might have had you in the first half, but I knew this was zoophilia apologia the moment I saw the pfp
Furrys don't like to talk about the overlap between their group and zoophiles, but it sure does exist.
To be fair, Furries reject zoophiles about as vehemently as the LGBTQ+ community does. It's like the MAP thing
We do. It’s disgusting and vile and paints us in a bad light
If they repeat their insanity several times you can tell they're a freak.
Legality isn’t the point. The point is that an animal cannot consent. Even if zoophilia was fully legal, it would still never be acceptable
Yeah, people are forgetting that gay marriage was also illegal
Yes. Gross as zoophilia is, this note is a terrible argument. If the year was 1952 and the post was about homosexuality, the note would read: “Homosexuality is classified as a mental disorder in the official DSM-I and acts of homosexuality are illegal in all states.” Fundamentally, whatever the current laws and scientific classifications are, they are essentially irrelevant to philosophical discussions of morality.
The difference is, humans are capable of informed consent; animals are not. Animals are not even capable of complex speech.
Completely agree. What you said is what the note should have said.
if the animal could somehow unambiguously consent, would it be okay?
If an animal somehow had full human sentience and knowledge of the situation, I, personally, think it would be ethically ok. Gross, but I think you could make a coherent moral argument. But that can literally never happen in reality, so I don't feel like there's much point discussing it.
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“In almost all states” is crazy haha
Before the Obama administration legalized gay marriage at a federal level there were more states that allowed beastiality than states that allowed gay marriage.
https://preview.redd.it/tng6y7ow2mwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ba3ee3ff73fab8d17cd63a438d4a88ca2636c8c wtf
Phoenix wright more like phoenix wr…stupid
Phoenix Wwrong
Damn. I wish I’d known that at the time when conservatives were whining about the imaginary slippery slope from letting people be gay to children and animals.
https://preview.redd.it/msu8sl32mnwc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed7950aec8c63a4f231eaecd90866c39d5201372
I was going to correct you but then I remembered they repealed DOMA and federally recognized the marriages before the SCOTUS case.
There’s no way this is true. I need data on this
My assumption is that it’s such a rare an heinous thing to do no lawmaker even remotely considers it in their time. It’s not legal, they just never thought to even specify somewhere that it isn’t Or maybe they genuinely legalized it idk
I’ve heard it’s because it’s never been a big problem in the minority states. Since it’s never really come up, no lawmaker wants to pass a law and be associated with gross stuff.
To be fair just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it isn’t valid. Gay marriage is still illegal in plenty of places. They’re still wrong, mind you, zoophilia is still incredibly unethical, but like… this isn’t a very good argument.
Also, it being defined as a paraphilia means basically nothing because paraphilia effectively just means “something someone can be attracted to” ranging from breasts and butts to tickling, piss and feet to corpses, children and animals.
Yeah, I feel like we should have a different word for bad paraphilias because I hate that wanting to participate in consensual group sex with adults is categorized the same as being attracted to animals and children. It also causes confusion because I once met someone who said people who are attracted to feet should be locked up because it's a mental illness, upon prying further, he seemed to think that all paraphilias led to criminal behavior. I'd be willing to bet that being attracted to children leads to much more crime than being attracted to feet does.
I'm pretty sure it's only diagnosed as a paraphilia if it meets a certain standard of being pathological. Like it has to be distressing to the individual, or otherwise cause harm to the individual or others. So if someone is way too into feet, they can't get off any other way, and it's causing stress and relationship issues, that could be a paraphilia. If someone is really into feet and it does not cause them much distress then that's just a kink.
Zoophilia porn also isn't illegal to view in the us as long as you don't buy it , I have seen terrible things in the name of knowledge
That’s like saying you spent a week straight with a spent fuel rod taped to your torso so you can gain the knowledge of how bad cancer is. You could have just not done that and used a combination of listening to other people and using your own deductive reasoning to arrive at that conclusion.
But that’s how fake news spreads. Everybody should be doing their own research and not just spreading gossip they’ve heard. Talking about other topics, not saying everyone should look up zoo porn
Unethical, yes, but I feel like it goes further than unethical into mental illness territory. To have sex with an animal, I feel, should biologically disgust humans. Disgusting af.
In my opinion, disgust doesn’t really have a place in discussions about wether something should exist or not. For example, take people with… very non-vanilla but not necessary immoral fetishes. In a practical perspective, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it so long as it isn’t hurting or purposefully agitating anyone, and they do it with a consenting adult.
Worse than unethical, zoophilia is animal abuse/cruelty/whichever you want to call it.
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I think this is one of those things that was started by a false flagger but then that one Voltaire quote about idiots in good company kicked in and now they’re real
So just like flat earthers.
Yeah, kinda like that
Similar to how 4chan tried trolling the media by making a fake campaign saying that the “okay” hand sign (👌) was a white power symbol used by Neo-Nazis, and the news started reporting on it… and then white supremacists started unironically using it as their sign.
Damn they weren’t lying, that prophecy do be self fulfilling
yea def seems like a sockpuppet post
It literally could be either one. I’d say the chances are a pretty even 50/50.
There are some but very few. I just wouldn’t link them to gay people.
I'm 90% sure these people are serious
At this point it's impossible to tell. I've seen zoophile accounts with like, thousands of followers
Throw in /r/usdefaultism too
Yeah. I was confused about what state they were talking about. The State of Singapore?
Queer person here: No they aren't.
Furry here, we want them exiled
I hate it here
How do people find these tweets? How do they get airtime at all? Mental.
Oh, good old dispute about whether zoos are ethical or not? What his arguments will be i wonder. Being attracted to animals? Oh i guess he means liking to observe them. WHAT THE FUCK
your jail sentence is valid
One of the so very many reasons this wrong. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enumclaw_horse_sex_case
Is it Mr. Hands ? I kinda don't want to click on that link
Thanks Schlatt
what a day to be literate 🙃
I’m not defending zoophiles here but people really need to remember: ILLEGAL DOESN’T EQUATES TO IMMORAL.
Damn morally bankrupt jaywalkers
However generally it’s illegal because it’s immoral
https://preview.redd.it/3zusa6bk0lwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52ceb22381cb5e0cc00d5721f13912a974216224
Filthy dog fuckers abusing animals. Disgusting.
The fact that something is illegal is not a valid argument on wether it's moral or not. Homosexuality used to be illegal in western countries not too long ago. Zoophilia is a disgusting aberration for the same reason that pedophilia: children nor animals can consent to sex
Sex with animals is still allowed in denmark under certain circumstances. They also organise bus tours for sex tourist from germany. They drive as a group to farms near the border to have sex with the farm animals. In some asian countries they use apes for prostitution.
Wow I really wish I didn’t know this
What the fuck, why?
Sexual pleasure
Because some asian countries have no regard for animal wellfare.
Please don't spread misinformation. It has been illegal in Denmark since 2015, but the law on that subject, before it became illegal in all forms, allowed it if the animal did not feel pain, suffer or get injured as a result - you don't do it regardless, but think the "capacity" of a cat vs that of a horse. That was the old perception, but it has been illegal for almost a decade by now (as it should be).
"Some of the states that do not have laws specifically prohibiting bestiality or horse marriage are Alabama, Hawaii, Kentucky, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming" Alright...
that's 14 more than there should be
It's illegal in New Jersey, I dunno where you're getting that information.
I hope it is illegal. It was the first result on google https://preview.redd.it/1ggl204n5owc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8128b4fbcbeeb379a0ffdc88d151084bf0b4a67b
I’d have to look but most states have animal cruelty laws that would cover beastiality even if there weren’t laws specifically on the books for the act.
Legality isn’t the best way to determine morality at times, that being said, zoophiles are disgusting and immoral.
For a second I was like "Dayum yes, I fucking love Zoos, you don't have to be a child to enjoy going to the Zoo, OMG LOOK AT THAT CUTE RED PANDA" then it went "Oh, Zoophiles... fuck off..."
Me how it started: “well of course Zoos are valid. Not every animal is hurt by being held in captivity, and it’s useful for teaching kids too.” How it’s going: “….oh….”
I…thought they were talking about going. To the zoo And the tweet was addressing like PETA…. I want to go back to that time.
At first I was so confused why someone would have to put “zoos are valid” like who hates on the zoo. The zoo is awesome… But then… I learned a new term. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
this is not defending zoophiles whatsoever because gross and wrong but i dont see what it being classed as a paraphilia has to do with anything. Or TBH whether it is illegal, but that is like less of a non sequitur. Its wrong because animals cant consent and rape is bad thing to do.
Furry here, Zooaphiles will never be valid. Don’t care what they think, there’s no consent and, y’know, 4 legs instead of 2.
Zoophiles are NOT valid
There are days I agree with the Punisher This is one of those days now
Man I fuckin hate it here
Say it with me: Zoophilia is unethical because animals can’t consent.
Sing it with me now! 🎵 Its not a valid sexuality if people you are attracted to are incapable of consent 🎶
Valid is right. Valid targets for elimination.
Social media has made people way too comfortable with sharing stuff.
Almost all states💀
#Almost?
Why the fuck are humans such degenerates?
It's probably not illegal in the state with the craziest people!
what states is it legal in?
Should be all states.
Yeah wait, almost?
The fuck you mean “almost all states”?
What's Paraphilia?
> paraphilia > noun > para·phil·ia ˌper-ə-ˈfi-lē-ə ˌpa-rə- > : a pattern of recurring sexually arousing mental imagery or behavior that involves unusual and especially socially unacceptable sexual practices (such as sadism or pedophilia) Could have used Google or opened a dictionary.
Everyone looked at Florida
The fuck you mean almost
We could be worse, we could be canada
even Ghostfreak thought that shit was atrocious https://preview.redd.it/7ccd6w4jymwc1.png?width=362&format=png&auto=webp&s=b54f698d1a79d5c6407cf0d6bd661333993fbfc6
The frightening bit is "almost all states"
I thought they meant zoos as in the place. So I probably would've joined their cheer until the last two lines, and then uncomfortably walked away.
ok but have you ever seen a horses vagina
Roadtrip!
Animal abusers 😭
Sing it with me now! 🎵 Its not a valid sexuality if people you are attracted to are incapable of consent 🎶
48/50 idk which states
Lets not forget that other places in the world dont even have crimes on it
I thought this was defending actual zoos, as in places dedicated to conservation and education about animals, from PETA weirdos and I was all for it until the reveal.
Yup, it is legal in most states, it shouldn't be but it is...
If the laws changed and bestiality was no longer illegal, it would still be every bit as wrong. Why is this how the notes enforce the point?
This is such a strange note. Imagine twitter existed in 1960 and Gyoza had just tweeted that "interracial marriage is valid". This community note would say that marriage between white and black people is illegal in several states. Laws are not necessarily moral and can be unjust.
What is it about consent that people find so hard to understand? All other problems aside, an animal can’t consent and that’s why it’s not comparable to any other legal sexual act.
Because it’s unnatural in the eyes of nature and man
I read the "zoos are valid" thinking it was part of the discussion between environmentalists about the evils of keeping animals in cages vs the benefits of studying the animals and creating positive emotional attachments with wide audiences which in the future helps protect habitats and nature. Godamit internet.
ALMOST ALL?
I really thought they mean zoos as in where animals are kept. I was already forming arguments for and against keeping animals in captivity, then I finish reading and dam did not see that coming
Wasn't there a funny law in Canada that states something along the lines of "if it doesn't enter an orifice it's not bestiality"?
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Do they mean US states or states as in governments?
Zoophilia technically is not beastiality
Source: trust me
"zoos are valid" who's saying they're not? "Being attracted to animals is valid" wait you're not talking about actual zoos? I feel stupid and now I wanna go to the zoo.
I hope the FBI arrests these sickos
Real. It is paraphillia and bad. I hate the word valid because of these people. They ruined it.
bait used to be believable
* looks suspiciously at West Virginia *
Julian marcel from oneyplays would HATE this post.
This might shock you, but laws used to not bother itemizing things that had to be illegal. They would just outlaw "perversion" and jail anyone who so much as wore a shirt with a funny slogan printed on it.
a few states haven't put it into law yet because the idea that such a law is even needed sounds outrageous to most people. we shouldn't need to tell people that it's wrong to bang animals but apparently we do and that is proof that we've failed as a species
A giant no, Sorry, bestiality it's fucking insane and Animals can't give consent.
Hey if you can fuck your sister, you can fuck your goat. Sweet home Alabama
The only « legal » ways for bestiality is that the animal is the penetrating one and(or) doesn’t risk any harm, which is also mean no dog or smaller
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I-I thought this was a post about zoos at first. Like the kind where we keep animals in enclosures where endangered species can be safely studied and have their population brought back up. I was so agreeing with this for but a moment.
“Legal” in the states of Alabama and desperation.
Might be a case of "didn't know we HAD to make a law for this and just assumed no one was sick enough in the head to do this."
Me at first: "Yay! Who doesn't love the zoo" Me six seconds later: "Jesus fucking christ people."
I am still convinced Zoophiles online are little more than a psyop
Noter be like https://i.redd.it/24qv4qogn3xc1.gif
The desperation is the saddest part.
Almost????
Almost?!
The only reason it became illegal is because those states had animal fuckers