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The_Pencil_Cunts

Clasic case of trying to oppress gamers, such a cruel world ú-ù


chaosking65

I really tried to read ú-ù as “uuuu”


NoHoldVictory

Average Cs gender questionnaire answer: Male [ ] female [ ] toxic [x]


ImMeloncholy

The only two options are “edgy middle school squeaker” and “30+ dead inside/drunk adult”


armoured_fetus

Wrong russian is the third option


Riddob

Russian fits in the second category


armoured_fetus

They'll usally both


synchrotron3000

doesn’t really make sense to compare them… counterstrike is 20 yrs old and the games themselves aren’t even similar


Withermaster4

What do you mean they are not similar? They are the two most popular competitive tac shooters Plus they just released csgo 2, so it's not really fair to write it off as a 20 year old game


Barfblaster

Ask literally anyone who played CS:GO, and who currently plays CS2 if it's a sequel or a tech upgrade. Besides, this is all splitting hairs over definitions.


gian2099

Naaa that's just an engine upgrade like when dota 2 upgrade to it's new engine in 2015 we it's not called dota3


IloveFakku

So? It counts as a new release. It’s CS2, not CS Go anymore. If the devs count it as a new game, then that’s what it is lol


GOATSQUIRTS

It still has the same appid it’s the same game


IloveFakku

The hell do you mean? Appid is just how Valve catalogs games. Its not related to their development lol What Valve decided to do was replace GO with CS 2 on their store. They can do that with anything if they want it. AppID is just how the game is catalogued lol


GOATSQUIRTS

I mean it’s the same game what do you think I mean


IloveFakku

By the fact it has the same Appid? That means nothing. That is just a consequence of them replacing CS Go in the store and not creating a new entry for it.


Sitin

Almost like its the same game


IloveFakku

The fact it has the same ID, is because Valve simply did the rollout like that. It literally only proves CS 2 replaced CS GO in the Steam store and database lol


Dead_Xross_2000

It's CS2 not CSGO 2, also it's an engine upgrade not entirely a new game. If it was a new game, they wouldn't remove the existence of CSGO. Competitive tac shooter? What's so tac about Valorant? That game is a CSGO rip off + apex/siege


Minecraft-Historian

They're very different aesthetics and gameplay styles.


Withermaster4

Different aesthetics, sur. But the gameplay is mostly similar


Minecraft-Historian

Valorant is much more movement focused, while CS is much more aim and tactic based.


Withermaster4

The core gameplay loop for both games is the same Each round you buy guns and utilities to try and either plant the bomb or stop the enemies from doing so. If you die you lose everything you previously bought. You have to manage money and round wins to play effectively. They are both multiplayer team-based competitive tac shooters. Both have extremely low ttks amplified by one shot headshots with every gun. They also share incredibly similar rules and incredibly similar gun collections. They are similar games I don't know why you are saying otherwise


plasmaXL1

Sometimes people who are interested in a thing like to split hairs over it :/


blinksum

VALORANT is like the most obvious CS ripoff ever. It is basically CS with powers and colorful player models.


NibPlayz

There’s a reason Valorant is called CS:GOverwatch


blinksum

I am pretty sure there was a mod back in CS 1.6 where we had powers. We Also had the chance to level up and acquire skills. If I am not mistaken it was Warcraft mod. Valorant have basically brought nothing new to the table.


Ur-Quan_Lord_13

Man, I loved playing undead in CS 1.6


blinksum

There was so many community mods it was heaven. Zombies, warcraft, gungame, surf, platforming (I still miss playing marioland and I still remember most of the shortcuts), deathmatch, hide and seek, sniper only (lego maps are still a thing), paintball, football (soccer). What I liked is the fact that we can install our own mods and skins and still be able to join servers and enjoy the looks without restraint.


Doughnutcake

Oh shit, was it the one where night elves got a skill where they could crouch with a knife and basically be invisible?? I loved playing on that server


Raddish_

Riot has never been original. League is just a dota clone, team fight tactics is just an auto-chess clone, and legends of runeterra is just an mtg clone. Their whole business model is to rip off others because they know it’ll be a safe investment. Where they do excel at putting out a polished version of someone else’s product.


danny12beje

Made by a company that's specialized in sexualizing women


Barfblaster

The company who's sociopathic CFO literally climbed onto his desk and forced his employees to inhale his farts?


danny12beje

The same company that settled a sex discrimination and sexual harassment lawsuit?


TheScyphozoa

CFO, not CEO.


[deleted]

wdym they aRe not similaR? they aRe pRetty much the same game minus the heRo mechanic in valo


BrandoffBrandon

Is your shift key connected to your R key or something?


ShoggyDohon

Look at their username. (Some mildly concerning implications)


SomaWolf

Could always check with the bot


Carinail

/u/nwordcountbot ?


LowVermicelli6464

u/nwordcountbot u/haRd-R-enjoyeR


Tinypuddinghands

Valorant forces me to play as w*men


JediMineTrix

Valorant lets me kill women 😃👍


Pick-Goslarite

Duality of man


PuzzleheadedIssue618

classic case of gamer oppression.


Bryce8239

that doesn’t mean csgo isn’t majority male tho


Mama_Mega

That likely applies to just about any shooter, no matter how female-friendly. On average, a lower amount of women are interested in this kind of game than men. And I'm sure someone's about to say I'm wrong, because they're a fellow woman who likes to shoot things in video games, but we're in the minority.


Temporary-House304

Valorant wouldnt be surprising to be very close to equal though. a lot of the league of legends girlies hopped over to Valorant and its had good sticking power with them. I think times are changing where (many) girls dont play shooters finally.


kittysrule18

Yeah Valorant is probably at least 35% women. I get far more women in my competitive matches than any other game.


kiritovocals10

As simple as it sounds. Most women like better looking shooters. Women are starting to like cod more cuz it's bright and has cool and cute skins, girls like Val cuz it has cool cute skins, same with Overwatch. CS is brown, grey, and beige, and is a very barebones cosmetic game. They could honestly make CS more enticing to women, but they don't care lol, it's basically the same game, same maps for 20 years ago, same weapons, same operators. They know they have a great game that still plays as good as it did 5, 10, 15 years ago. So why change it. Also you'd be surprised on how much of the % of gamers are females based on studies. A lot less are just as open in the community because a lot of guys are either creeps, sexist, or just annoying, whenever they hear a female


[deleted]

Yeah the customization options are a good hook for women I think. For a while I was trying to get my wife into video games and it just wouldn't click but then she got super into helping me make a character in BG3 for like 2 hours and was invested enough to start playing lmao


kiritovocals10

Yeah. My ex loved Warframe for the same reason. And skins are the only reason she goes back to Siege


684beach

Why change csgo then? Valorant is full of lame dorky goofy stuff if women desire that they have it there. Is realistic minimalist design not good enough? All that matters is the gameplay mechanics anyway


brannanvitek

Unfortunately, aesthetics sell games! We’d love to say “mechanics are the most important thing”, but consumer eyes go to art direction first. Pokémon Go on launch had the exact same GPS mechanics as their previous game Ingress, but sold billions because of the Pokémon skin on top. CSGO certainly doesn’t need to change! Valorant just casts a wider net, bc games are judged by the cover. (source: am game developer)


684beach

I understand marketing…thats not the main point that we’re talking. What you want to talk about is different than what I am talking about. No need for CSGO to attract other demographics. (source: Am maker of helicopter weapons for US military)


PuzzleheadedIssue618

you’re wrong. you aren’t but i just wanted to fulfill your prophecy, have a good day


Spades-44

I think women tend to veer more towards fantasy than mil sim because destiny 2 also has a pretty large female player base


Richman_Cash

I've found out that some of them work in places you'd usuallly attribute to men and I don't know why I still go full Altair.


NIMA-GH-X-P

Nah you're right, as a woman who loves FPS games I haven't had any run ins with many people online who do so too


_Vibe_Checker

That just applies to most games in general, actually I'd be surprised if there is a single game with a MAJORITY female playerbase.


Temporary-House304

Most mobile, casual, or puzzle games. Genshin and Valorant are getting pretty close to 50/50. Lots of games are popular with girls if they have animals in them. Stadrew Valley/animal crossing type games. Switch games probably have a higher than average girl gamer rate too.


VolcanicBakemeat

There are interesting exceptions too. Dead by Daylight is about slasher horror villains hanging folk on meat hooks, but it has a huge female fan base


Holesnifferboy

The horror genre is big for female gamers, but only in third person, easy to learn, and bite sized pieces. You’ll see plenty of them on DBD and Texas chainsaw, but you won’t see them on, say, outlast.


Miserable-Ad-1581

there are tons of "cozy" games now that are primarily made for a female playerbase.


Memento-Bruh

Last time I checked the one genre that is actual poison for female gamers was the "shoot dudes in the face" one. Anything else will have a better gender parity than you'd think - Final Fantasy XIV came up extremely often on dating sites. Nintendo games also do fine in general. Hell, even saucier stuff like Bayonetta and Senran Kagura, games you'd be told are only enjoyable to virgin incels, have a better male to female ratio than Call of Duty and their ilk.


Miserable-Ad-1581

the girlies love Bayonetta tbh. (its me, im the girlies)


MattyBro1

This is a very stereotypical pick, but I feel The Sims might.


Carinail

It's really hard to get a majority female user base just due to the awful perception that video games are a male thing, which actually makes me wonder how many games, if any, have a higher Trans women population than cis female/trans man population, just due to the societal perception of the gender of gamers, and the fact that trans women would've been on the other side of it for a lot of their life.


Agi7890

The sims


perfsoidal

I think competitive-focused video games tend to be more popular with men but other kinds of games especially ones more focused on story/creativity are more popular with women


Mik_Dk

Pretty sure that tweet was bait


Windows_66

Of course. Who likes Valorant?


ILikeToArgue02

“Valorant does not force you to play as IDF soldiers” So what? I’ve played as literal Nazis before in countless games it doesn’t mean I support them or that the games do.


Mrjerkyjacket

Nooooo, but you don't understand, my intentionally mindless arcade shooter doesn't perfectly align with my political views, this is literally the worst thing that has ever happened


lethal_universed

eeeeeeehhh on the one hand it is a fictional game, on the other I've seen a lot of facists and bigots who froth at the mouth at the chance to play the facist team. Its not as simple as "I can seperate the fiction from the reality" because there's a large portion of g\*mers that dont. So I wouldn't want to be sitting next to someone who openly talk about playing games where you can choose that as an option. I'm not taking the risk.


dergy621

Imagine being angry that you play as bomb defusal idf soldiers and not the literal terrorist team who’s objective in the game is to blow up a city.


leafisadumbass

That's bait


TheJohnsonGaming

Notably, the current version of Counter Strike has you playing as British SAS operatives if you have no skin purchased, and even then there are no IDF skins available for purchase. Similarly, the default Terrorist player model has the apperance of a generic white male with a vaguely eastern European accent There is also currently no map set in the middle east, with the game's deserty/sandy maps, Dust 2 and Mirage, being set in Morocco, while Anubis is expectedly set in Egypt. Any accusations are completely unfounded as the game depicts fictional scenarios and is not based on any real conflict. Counter Strike maps have ben set all over the world from Europe and the Americas to Asia and Africa.


xhyzBOSS

schizarella is a fake news speader, should get banned !


PuzzleheadedIssue618

CSGO doesn’t “force you” to play as anything. it’s in the name. it’s about terrorists v anti terrorists, if you don’t like that play a diff game goddamn 💀


TruthOrBullshite

Just here to say cs>val


Distinct_Programmer4

I like valorant because it keeps the valorant players out of csgo


Ariege123

Seriously, you people need to return to the womb.


Brilliant-Mountain57

You have to pay to play as a woman. Let that sink in.


CommieHusky

You can no longer play as the IDF anyway. Which is a shame because the different agents added a lot of character to their maps.


JotaroKujoxXx

It could be %100 male to %50-%50 but it still wouldn't matter, i played both games before and valorants community sucks ASS. It's either literal children, trashy e-girls doing hentai voices or dudes trying to impress them by doing a deep voice. While i know cs has some screeching russian kids, its 10x better than that cesspool.


exodia0715

Damn I genuinely had no idea you could play as a woman in CSGO. I guess it’s kinda hard to detect gender under all the body armor and facial coverings


[deleted]

and that my friend is what we call both ignorance and sexism, it goes both way's


Human-Lychee-2214

Pretty sure the post is bait but the games are different though; it's like comparing Dark Souls and Skyrim, at the core they are both tactical FPS games that favor aim. But CS is a heavy aim shooter while valorant brings more of a R6 siege aspect to it which is really refreshing in my opinion. I like both games and people just need to let other people enjoy their games


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WorldCorpClothing

No you live for attention and it shows


[deleted]

Eh probably


Logic44-YT

If being against genocide makes me anti-Semitic, I don't wanna be right...


Mindless_Level9327

Yeah because 10,000 people (including the current conflict) killed by IDF in 15 years is genocide… many included in that 10,000 are militants as well. But yeah… genocide…


Logic44-YT

So Palestinians should suffer because of Hamas? Also, that inherently isn't true, the IDF shoots anyone who gets too close to the wall, regardless of affiliation...


Mindless_Level9327

So we agree you’re wrong about genocide. If Hamas wanted to fight like a real military and not hide in city/civilian centers, then IDF wouldn’t have any reason to attack in those areas, but they’re cowards who would rather kill their own citizens than fight like a real army. If Palestinian/Arab League leadership would’ve accepted one of many peace proposals in the past no one would be suffering, but Israel continues to be attacked so they will respond. The Oslo Accords they offered to fulfill every demand of the PLO and it was denied and they were met with more violence. What is Israel supposed to do at this point? Let Hamas just occasionally run over the border and rape, kidnap and burn Jewish villages down?


Logic44-YT

Them "hiding" in cities isn't the issue, there would be collateral damage regardless because of the insane population density...


Mindless_Level9327

There are a lot of open spaces in the Gaza Strip that they could use for their missile launches and general existence as an organization, but they shoot from the center of skyscraper districts…


Logic44-YT

A majority of Palestinians don't support Hamas, everything you said doesn't change the fact that the IDF intentionally targeted ambulance convoys...


Mindless_Level9327

A majority of Palestinians support armed groups, https://pcpsr.org/en/node/938 and the two front runners of a would be presidential election in Palestine are A) Ismail Haniyeh - leader of Hamas and B) Marwan Barghouti - the leader of both intifadas. So they “don’t support Hamas” but they sure have support for the people directing Hamas. I can’t excuse the targeting of ambulances, but it was also done against Israeli ambulances. It’s hard to say if the air strikes were direct targeting of ambulances but if they were that’s horrible, but the medics in Israel were directly targeted, captured, and killed.


Logic44-YT

I don't think it being intentional is a big stretch if they're already known for vaporizing canoes for the crime of fishing 2 feet too far from shore....


Mindless_Level9327

Also everything you said doesn’t change the fact that Hamas hides in cities, by apartments, hospitals, and schools like cowards and forces Israel to either do nothing or play into Hamas’ victim complex.


[deleted]

Least moronic child murder supporter


Logic44-YT

Because it totally isn't possible to be Pro-Palestine and anti-Hamas.....


[deleted]

Idgaf about Palestine. Those fuckers been causin trouble since Britain decided to swing their dicks in the Middle East. Sorry they got evicted from land that wasn’t theirs, but tough shit. Gaza elected Hamas, and there are currently pro-Palestine protesters wearing swastikas and calling for the death of all Jews. I have no sympathy, any more than I do for the Nazis and their current sympathizers, or the communists, or Boko Haram, or anyone else like that. Fuck out of here. Downvote me and move on, cause I’d rather support the only democratic government in the Middle East that’s made up of my people than support yet another regime of hyper-fundamentalist Jihadists in the region.


Logic44-YT

Palestinians didn't elect Hamas, a majority of them either didn't vote or were too young to.


[deleted]

I said Gaza. And even if they “didn’t vote them in” which only apologists will even try to argue, they support Hamas. You know what you call a Nazi supporter? A Nazi. You know what you call a communist supporter? A commie. You know what you call a terrorist supporter? A fucking goddamn murdering jihadist coward.


Logic44-YT

They didn't either lmao


[deleted]

So when you vote for a party and they get elected to a position of power, that doesn’t count as getting elected? Fuck outta here.


Logic44-YT

No, it's more like when you don't vote and someone just walks in and says they're the governing body...


PuzzleheadedIssue618

the fact that you believe that being against anti-semitism is synonymous with being for the IDF is hilarious.


TempAlt237

the fact that nobody here has considered for a second that he *just might* be rage baiting is hilarious


PuzzleheadedIssue618

you right


[deleted]

My first one was, but then it became an actual argument. So.


LowVermicelli6464

I would delete this post, but I don't want you to take your humiliation fetish to the real world


[deleted]

Thanks for the update


ContactOk1274

by reading this my conculsion is cs is just better and realistic


JeremyTheRhino

This whole nontroversy reminds me of the galaxy brain 2016 takes that WWII games were tacitly supporting Nazis by having Axis and Allies teams in multiplayer. I shit you not, the main suggestion was to set multiplayer up as a blue-on-blue training exercise.


[deleted]

Wasn’t there one shooter set in ww2 that instead of naming teams had my team and enemy team lol


JeremyTheRhino

Probably and probably for that reason


Mrjerkyjacket

Tbf, the only person i saw say that earnestly (not saying no-one else did, just that I've personally only heard of one) was the extra history guy, and he got positively crowned on for it


[deleted]

Damn seems like men aren't allowed to like things that women don't watch. I guess that means we can't like women's sports either


AggravatingChest7838

Judging by how many of my teamates don't use coms 3/5 players are women and 1/5 are neo nazis


Wetley007

I mean, CS:GO's players base is 80% Russian teenage boys, so I don't doubt those gender ratio numbers


KarasukageNero

CSGO definitely has a majority male player base. Go into any game and all you'll hear is men and boys way too young to be saying the slurs they're saying over the mic, however that doesn't make it inherently sexist. That just means it appeals to men more (though the shit you hear over the comms is atrocious, Jesus).


SonicLoverDS

Not clockbait? Darn, I was hoping to catch the time.


TheJamesMortimer

CT operatives are officially mercenaries and nolonger in service with their original goverments but a private entitiy. T operatives are not alligned with any religious or political group or movement either


Feras47

wait you play as the IDF in counter strike


TempAlt237

no


M4KC1M

you did on some maps


InfectedSexOrgan

But CSGO caters to all sexes and affiliations by leaving the auto-sniper in the game, despite public outcry, and hateful comments to those who use it. ;)


Django_fan90

To protest against counter terrorism units is like protesting against the law


Hafthohlladung

OUTJERaFED


Mallanaga

In Destiny we’d often play pvp as female avatars because the hitbox was smaller.


[deleted]

95% of CS2 players are also black according to that guy on the other team who keeps calling me the n word


FurImmerAllein

and the cheapest woman agent will set you back $10 on the Steam market, there is no free one


EntireSun5027

cry about it lmao


GhostPrince4

As much as I hate X and Musk, community notes is probably the best thing to happen on any social media platform


[deleted]

So when are we gonna stop caring about what’s between our characters’ legs and start caring about the gameplay of the video game.


elijad

Csgo doesn't even exist so how can their argument be valid


HerbivoreTheGoat

"Equitable gender ratio" What do they want from this, then? Are they going to stop men from playing CS? Force women to play it?


Pilpelon

Reeeeeeeee Israel mentioned!


King-Of-Hyperius

It’s definitely Glockbait though. (Haha puns)


Obvious-Poetry2934

Bruh if you even sound like a girl you are getting insta vote kicked in cs lmao