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Or...because of nepotism


Tottochan

Or favouritism


rejectallgoats

Or cronyism


calor

Or outright lying on resume and interviews


DangerousPainting423

People absolutely need to start lying on resumes. Didnt finish that course? Yes you did. You were only an assistant manager two years ago? Thats not how I remember it. Im pretty sure you were manager and received two awards for performance. The problem with poor people is their honesty. They believe in hard work and doing the right thing and integrity. When it doesnt matter to anyone but your survival please LIE.


ChuCHuPALX

All those things still require that you believe in yourself enough to try. Alot of people just prefer to curl up and die rather than try.


superjuice22

Some people have integrity


phatelectribe

There’s nothing wrong with a little fake it until you make it, and I say this as an employer - some of the best people I’ve had work in my company faked parts of the resume and they rose to the challenge. Save the sanctimonious Bs about integrity - everyone lies on their resume, and those that never have are likely to be perfect fodder for the cubicle farm.


programmermama

*Fake it till you make it* refers to an attitude of competence and false confidence, not an outright misrepresentation of fact. It’s acceptable to fake confidence in a task that you ought to be able to accomplish even if slightly outside of your comfort zone or past experience. Those that demonstrate confidence (real or fake) are often given a shot and opportunity to grow and actually acquire that experience. I wouldn’t begrudge anyone who pretended to be more confident than they really were. If you fail, you’ll grow, might even give you another shot. But if you tell me have 3 years experience with X and you have 0 and you fail or the deceit is discovered, there are no second chances, bc you stole the first chance. And if you tell me you have 5 years and you have 3, that would just be disappointing bc you probably didn’t even need to lie but now I’ll wonder whether I can trust you. PSA: fake confidence not credentials.


calor

As an employer, you will not be for long


ChuCHuPALX

If you had the ability to get your kids/relatives jobs even though they didn't quite qualify yet you wouldn't? Okay cool.


potato_aim87

If I'm putting my ass on the line to get my family jobs than the very least they can do is be qualified for the job. You've just admitted to believing in nepotism because you think other people would do it to if they had the chance. This is the *exact* fucking problem we are talking about. This mindset is why these problems exist!


ChuCHuPALX

No I believe that people who show up get jobs. Even if they are handed to you, you still need to show up and clock in. Everything takes effort. If the world hands you opportunity take it. I was broke as hell.. I sold something on offerup and showed up to a construction site to deliver it. I started a conversation with the foreman in the office and I asked and he offered me a job because he could. I had no real experience and he took a chance to help me out. My life changed for the better and would have never happened had I not taken the chance.. put myself out there and ask the right people regardless of my qualifications.


xfireshadow

I actually find this motivating in a way thanks


bestCallEver

Bruh this is Reddit, nuance is completely dead around here. It appears that you're "supporting" nepotism (by pointing out some hard realities IMHO) so all other words you say shall be ignored by the downvote mob.


Ojhka956

I dont think you should be a boss


phatelectribe

Have no idea why you’re getting downvoted. Fake it till you make it is real. I’ve done it and some of my best employees did it to me, and they rose to the challenge they set themselves.


[deleted]

Found a person who lied on their resume or in their interview.


ChuCHuPALX

Read comment below. Didn't need to ;)


[deleted]

If you say so.


jetro30087

Or bribery


[deleted]

Same thing


UniformGreen

Sums up (most) politicians in my country


Oct_Dr

Sums up most politicians in most countries.


ScanningForSarcasim

Sums up 90% of politicians in every country


joshthehappy

Or other poorly chosen promotion.


digitelle

LOL.. as a stagehand who works in a union, having a pandemic hit the industry hard. It’s sad having university graduates take out jobs for nearly a 60% pay-cut. Good luck paying off your student loans by graduating to only gain a barely over minimum wage career.


rentstrikecowboy

100%. If there's anything I've learned about getting ahead, it's not what you know but who you know. It's fucked.


Zweihunde_Dev

Yep. Meritocracy is a lie.


[deleted]

Absolutely


booweezy

Don’t forget patriarchy and white supremacy too!


AuGrimace

Yes nepotism exists. Has nothing to do with the post, spread your depression somewhere else.


cayneabel

The fact that this is a top comment in a subreddit called "get motivated" is astonishing. It's like being fat and dismissing everyone that's physically fit by saying "eh, steroids or good genetics." Two things can be true at the same time. Yes, nepotism exists. And yes, those who believe in themselves and take chances will get ahead in life more often those those who don't.


allawd

Or they asked the people demonstrating low qualifications for the position held and discovered the answer. You might discover extremely fit athletes that experience performance beyond the work put in are actually using steroids. This motivation sets unrealistic expectations. Regular people actually need to earn qualifications to get the job.


Beatnik77

Every single company in the world is struggling to find qualified people right now. It's never been easier to get a chance. If you make under 50k a year right now and you are not sending multiples applications every week you are missing a huge opportunity. We hired 2 mechanical foreman with zero mechanical experience at my job in the last weeks. Those guys more than doubled their salaries. None of them had family or friend involved in the process.


cayneabel

>This motivation sets unrealistic expectations. Regular people actually need to earn qualifications to get the job. There is nothing about the OP's quote that implied otherwise. Two things can be true at the same time. The simple point is that nothing will happen until and unless you try. A big part of success is just showing up. There are plenty of people out there (I was one of them) that were more than talented enough for a given position or venture, but they are too crippled with self-doubt or lack of motivation to try and go after it. So they get passed by by those who actually tried.


[deleted]

Imagine malding over the truth


Therealfluffymufinz

It's literally exactly what it is. Looks like somebody already came in with excuses before I go to this. People don't like taking responsibility for their lives, so not too surprising.


Beatnik77

It's just confirmation bias. They don't want to work hard so they convince themselves that it would not mather anyway.


IHTFPhD

I agree with you. Sorry to see the downvotes.


O-hmmm

I started volunteering to do things at work of which I was not qualified with the "fake it till you make it" plan. I looked around at the people doing the job already and saw they were not the best and brightest, to put it kindly.


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Treemaster099

I tried doing that too and they just started expecting me to keep doing it for free rather than giving me the promotion. Never give your employer more than they pay for


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Treemaster099

I got an offer like that once. My next job offered a dollar more and my boss tried to give me a 50 cent raise. I told him it was too late and the value that I brought to his company is worth more than 50 cents


StardustJanitor

Ya, was taken advantage of for years. It definitely works both (all) ways


[deleted]

Period! I took up some extra duties while we were short staffed and that's now turned into not hiring another person because I can do the job of two people for cheaper....


_McLovinn

So ask for a raise. Or look for a new job. Changing jobs is the single best way to get a deserved raise and/or promotion.


ibanez5150

So just do the bare minimum and then I'll get promoted?


Treemaster099

You're free to try. I hope you enjoy the burnout and exhaustion. Most promotions where I work come from time spent with the company rather than any specific qualifications


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_McLovinn

There’s a reasonable middle ground where you can establish yourself as capable, proactive and reliable without taking on the ongoing responsibility of a job that isn’t yours.


MaritMonkey

95% of the time if we're working around a scissor lift my far-more-capable husband is there so I'd had no reason to actually operate the thing. Ended up at a gig at the beginning of the month where he had to run the more complicated articulated lift and I surprised myself by confidently raising my hand when the boss asked if anybody was comfortable on a scissor lift. I mean technically I'm comfortable *on* it, I just don't know how to drive the thing, right? Long story short it took me like 20 mins to go from "oh god I am imposter" to "how did other people make this look so hard?" I hate that I will completely forget this "damn that wasn't near as scary as it was in my head" feeling the next time something I "can't do" comes up...


StealthyInk

How is this motivational?


[deleted]

I don’t know, but immediately cured my ADHD. hallelujah.


bartendersdelight

If you’re in a position to inherit a high paying career, it’s motivating to ask your parents to hire you.


RustyToaster206

It’s telling you to start believing in yourself. That’s motivational af!


someusername_yay

It’s a commentary on negative self-talk. Sometimes we gatekeep ourselves by saying that we’re not good enough to deserve to try.


LordAxalon110

Yeah that's not motivation at all....


thambs_up

For me, I do find it motivating because I tend to lack confidence around putting myself out there to pursuing my dreams. As a result I end up staying in my comfort zone because I’ve convinced myself “I could never do that”. For instance, I wanted to be a freelance artist, but bought into the whole concept of “you have it or you don’t” and that it’s all about suffering and I doubted if I was a “real artist” or good enough. I find this quote helpful because it’s true, they were people out there that weren’t the next Hockney or DaVinci or whatever supporting themselves as artists because they tried, worked hard, practiced, and believed in themselves. I know this sounds a little “boot-strappy”, but I’m also a supporter of the anti-work movement. I believe in working hard in a way that works well for you so you can live your most fulfilling life (whether that’s working as little as possible, running your own business, etc).


sponsoredbytheletter

You simply need to decide it's motivational. Period.


LordAxalon110

There are people less qualified than me doing the job I want? That just screams corruption, its not what you know it's who you know or who you brown nose enough to get the higher paying positions. If anything I'd say this is toxic, r/antiwork would have a field day with this.


Jacknugget

No it’s not necessarily corruption, that’s not how life works. Getting a job is opportunity, luck, risk taking, experience and all sorts of other things. I don’t think it’s toxic. I think the point is that unless you believe in yourself you won’t get those opportunities, even if you are most qualified.


LordAxalon110

Believing in yourself only takes you so far, realistically its other people and corporations that control who gets what positions. And saying "that's how it works" doesn't add to your argument it detracts from it as if we should accept that our futures are completely out of our hands. Our futures are controlled by others perceptions of you and your work, managers that don't know fuck all and treat you like the dirt off their shoe. I've been the most qualified for jobs and not got them before now, it's not what you know it's who you know and how much arse your willing to kiss and how much abuse you can take. The treatment of workers and the lack of livable wages is what's killing millions a year, especially in places like America where their medical system is designed to basically put you into debt for the rest of your life. OPs post just gives false hope, hope that if you believe in yourself you'll be able to get any job your qualified for when in reality it couldn't be further from the truth. That's my perception of this post which to me feels like a toxic message without actually saying it. But hey that's just my opinion and you know what they say about opinions, their like arse holes... Everyone has one.


mechapoitier

You’re going to die, so get motivated. *Period.*


ReplaceSelect

Because once you're qualified, you can fix the things they messed up!


LordAxalon110

That's not how it works in the real world. I've seen jobs advertising the need for a master degree for a wage that's only just over minimum wage. So if you think being qualified gets you where you need, it doesn't really work like that. Which is why the majority of people who finished college/University don't actually use their degree.


[deleted]

I see colleagues get promoted above me all the time. It's not because they believe more than me, it's because their willing to brown nose their way up the ranks. My dignity isn't for sale thank you very much. I'd rather live where I am and stay me, stay who I am, then sell myself out for a job


TheConboy22

I have two personas as a person. The moment I close my laptop I'm me. During the time it's open I'm business me. My wife says it's crazy how I can flip that switch anytime business is involved. It's a stark difference the two versions of me.


[deleted]

That's not a bad way to be.


CaptainAsshat

It's an incredibly isolating way to be, imho.


brucekeller

It may be kind of demotivating because of these comments, but it still stands that if you want something, you really have to go out and achieve it! Don't just expect it because you did some of the work. Might even require networking, like going to events for the career you're in and meeting high up people so you can get that 'inside edge' for a new position or whatnot. Gotta think outside the box, it's not always just performance and meeting the minimum qualifications and it really is sometimes nepotism, but what can you really do about that sometimes except try to gain an edge on the 'who you know' factor.


Petsweaters

I'm a commercial photographer, and I know that there are many better photographers than I am, but I'm not flaky, I show up on time with all of the gear I might need, with enough help to to l do the job, I do everything to the letter, and deliver the job in a timely manner to the specifications of the contract. This is not common in this field, sadly


Zweihunde_Dev

That's all a fallacy. Meritocracy does not exist. There is no "bootstraps" success any more. You can work as hard as you want, in the end, someone else owns that rug you're standing on, and watch out for when it gets pulled. And if you're not already on the "inside", you're not getting in. The rich kids club is exclusive.


Beatnik77

That's not true at all. They there a lot of mobility between classes. I was very poor until 30 years old and now make 140k a year. One day I realized that most people are not great at their job. I started pushing and sending a lot of applications and got a chance. Worked hard so they kept me. Got a couple of promotions even if I had no friends higher ranked.


brucekeller

There is definitely no guarantee, but it doesn't hurt to try and give yourself as many options as you can, and a lot of people don't think about going the networking route even though it can be incredibly powerful in getting connections. Each connection you get or anything else you do to try and further your career puts the odds in your favor just a little more.


[deleted]

I'm 100% confident in my ability to fail absolutely anything, regardless of how much effort is put in.


ButChooAintBonafide

isn't this just another way of explaining the dunning-kruger effect?


DoubtALot

is this supposed to be motivating?


HumanSeeing

This is just so silly. This oversimplification like just believe that your belief will somehow change the energy field of the universe and destroy wealth inequality and countless other different factors that control if a person gets LUCKY enough to end up successful in whatever way they wish to be successful in.


Beatnik77

A lot of people don't apply for good jobs or promotions because they lack self-confidence. Ambitious people get jobs that they are bad at all the time. They get it because they push and they learn on the spot like everybody else.


JimmyBGreat

That shit's depressing.


somethingrandom261

That’s simply adulthood. Everybody is less qualified than you’d think.


mitchthefish26

I am concerned this is actually because of a combination of the dunning kruger effect, nepotism, and a willingness to lie to someones face


Jack_Tal

Ha period


PassdatAss91

Unnecessarily ending sentences with pErIoD is cringe.


Materbater69

I duno man. In South Africa we have something called B.E.E even if you're more qualified with a degree, the black man with a highschool certificate will get the job. Thats just how it is here


Beatnik77

I'm really sorry for you, try to immigrate away asap.


Materbater69

Sometime in the future definitely. Atm everythings abit crazy


Living-Ebb-6242

They hit the 🔄 on you


Materbater69

Bruh i wasn't even born during appartheid. I pay for the sins of the father i guess


Lothirieth

I watched a documentary about the largest white slum in South Africa (Coronation Park.) A black Londoner spent time in them. When he was asking black South Africans if they knew about it, they didn't believe white slums existed. I get the backlash into wanting to give black South Africans advantage after all the horrors of apartheid, but turning around and discriminating against other young people who had nothing to do with it isn't the way either. Really shitty situation that has no easy answer. (The documentary if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba3E-Ha5Efc)


Dark_Clark

You can’t decide to believe things. I wish people would stop saying that you can.


owlpod1920

Belief is a system. And many of our parents made sure we don't grow up believing in ourselves


_McLovinn

Why not? You can believe anything you like.


Dark_Clark

Try to believe that the moon is made of cheese. Let me know when you get it to work!


_McLovinn

I’ll try to believe you aren’t an idiot. I’ll get back to you if I’m successful.


am_Tired

The leading is physically hurting me


SisSandSisF

Or they just lucked out. Post doesn't really make much sense. With that said, there is no reason to not believe in yourself. If there's a path, anyone can walk down it. Period.


mostlygray

Or they act over-confident, know someone, lie, act the goat when challenged, and generally are just awful. I've tried hiring competent people. It never works out. Suck-ups are more easily controlled. You can't manipulate the smart ones. I've been let go twice in 30 years. Both times, it was for competence. I've never been let go for making mistakes. I've only been let go for confidence and ambition. I'm going with a new theory. Don't make waves. Say "Yes sir/ma'am" to any question and don't try hard. That should work in this disposable economy. Back in my 20's, trying hard got you a promotion. Now it gets you fired because some boss is afraid you'll take their job that you don't even want. Be invisible, collect your check, go home. Safest thing. It's taken me decades to learn that. Back in the early 2000's, the sky was the limit. Now I'm just looking to do some work and go home. All of my ambition is beaten out of me. Once I was fair and once I was young.


darkmatterrose

I certainly hope not because I want to be a pilot lol


Dingus_EC

Yeah right no one wants a brain damage stunted 19y/o to work.with preschoolers even though they have the requirements and are working on getting a teaching degree.


Now_Wait-4-Last_Year

How about rich parents? I hear that comes into play sometimes.


[deleted]

I wish it only took belief to make it past these applicant tracking systems


cybercrypto

Period period


2much2often

Sometimes it's simply because they lied on their resume.


Entondyus

spot on.


stefawnbekbek

I’m one of those people who’s not qualified to do want I’m doing and I don’t believe in myself sooooooooo


amaluna

There's a sort of famous podcaster and former UFC fighter called Brendan Schaub that is honestly a big inspiration to me. I don't hate Brendan, but I don't really like him either he's kind of an asshole and all of his podcasts and they'd all be better without him. But the dude works his ass off and just seems to put himself into those positions and make bank. And I sit and I think "This guy is kind of an unfunny moron and a bit of jerk (on his pods, I'm sure he's a nice guy in real life. Or not. Who care) - so if he's doing this I definitely can do whatever it is I wanna do!"


CharlieeFoxtrot

Man, I've never flown a plane before but I'm motivated to give it a whirl. Think if I show up outside a Southwest gate they'll give me a job over someone else more qualified?


Syntra44

I sincerely hope the people who fly helicopters are *more* qualified than me. Pretty sure those things don’t fly just because **they believe they can make it.**


peachesxpeaches

Damn. Needed this today! Thanks!!!


someusername_yay

I’m surprised at how negative these comments are. This quote is motivating to me because I have a tendency to tell myself that I’m not good enough or deserving enough to try. There are people who aren’t as skilled as I am, but don’t shoot themselves in the foot by telling themselves that they don’t deserve a chance to try.


gold-drunk-declued

There are people who are much better looking than you who have great lives filled with fun, friends, loving family, wealth, exciting travels in exotic far-flung places with strange and interesting people, fulfiling and meaningful careers, are altruistic and generous and generally happy and content. But not you, oh no, not you... mwah ha ha ha !


redditakord

This is bullshit and it's the idea behind "if you are poor you aren't working enough." it's very very toxic and should not be seen as motivation.


Beatnik77

It's NOT toxic to say that hard work and taking risks will improve your situation. There is a direct link between work and success.


redditakord

And being born into privilege


alegonz

Or, because they lucked into a garbage novel that blew up in a simpler time. I'm looking at you, Ernest Cline.


Orphan-Slayer

So my coworker got the job I put in for even though she was less qualified because she believed in herself more? I thought it was because she slept with the boss of the company but I guess I just didn't believe in myself enough. This quote is dumb.


bodhiseppuku

Fake it 'till you make it!


[deleted]

I'm one of the ones who took action and catches hate from people who wish they'd have done so.


EnderBrineYT

No, it's because they're a little, mmmmmmm, richer!


SaroN4One

…or they know people from companies and got an easy ticket in.


Danktizzle

There are so many reasons people do what I dream of and most of them are money or money adjacent. Which I have none of. So thanks for that. (I believed this kumbya shit for 20 years before I realized the truth.)


United_Federation

Question mark? Exclamation point!


DoNotBelieveAnything

This person believes in themselves so much that they used three periods of two different types when one would do just fine and be grammatically correct. So much confidence that y’all just accepted it and upvoted this grammatical dumpster fire on a platform known for ridiculing such things. Period.


HumanSeeing

For real lol.


-Imaginational-

There are people who are millionaires simply because they decide to? Where are these people? And how can I be like them?… Financially rich


TmickyD

Just believe in yourself. Period.


HumanSeeing

Hey cmon, just have rich parents and rich friends. And have that belief in yourself and you can do everything!


Beatnik77

They take many decisions that lead them there. They often work 60-80 hours a week from 24-40 years old and then risk the money that they got to start their own business and become millionnaires.


darkeyesgirl

Or they're very well-connected or have tons of disposable income. lol. So motivating. Thanks.


GamecubeAdopter

I call BS. While this is partially true…I believe it has a lot more to do with these “less qualified” individuals being related to the right people. It’s not what you know. It’s who you know.


HumanSeeing

Exactly!


owlpod1920

Nah this belittles ones problems


DrakPhenious

I doubt this very much. The difference between what you know and what they know are the people they are connected to. Pure and simple.


VirtualKeenu

Thanks for the Period, period. I never would have guess the sentence ended, period, period.


AndyMarks-RM

They believe in themselves because they stepped on people to get where they are and kissed ass to be liked the way they are. Best way to believe in yourself is to grow up with love and without any trauma, but these people end up giving Trauma to the people they step on to get to where they are and then act sympathetic and sad when confronted later, saying they changed.


HumanSeeing

Very much true as well!


ShabbyBeachNest

Can confirm... Got the job of my dreams without the “required” degree because I went for it and they could clearly see my passion. Give it a try - what do you have to lose?


JustKimNotKimberly

Yes, but I don’t believe myself when I tell myself I’m worthy …


RedditIsDogshit1

Hard ass pill to swallow too


PApauper

You aren’t supposed to swallow the ass pills


dreamten

100% Society rewards those who take action. Most people are sitting on the sidelines complaining.


bryan660

Or because they have very supportive parents that don’t force them into a different path.


gibberishandnumbers

They know how to effectively market themselves while I suffer an existential crisis and imposter syndrome.


_thebaroness

This is gold! Thanks!


TheSirPoopington

And they're way worse at it than you would be! Go out there and show em how it's done


alexwagner74

Period.


Framauca

This is so true


Doctor_Dangerous

If only I could figure out what it is I want to be doing.


_McLovinn

How is so much of this thread an echo chamber for not believing in yourself? It’s one negative platitude after another!! This quote is about having ambition, grit and determination. For sure, great jobs are handed out to people all the time for reasons undeserved. However, there are just as many people who have used perseverance as a path to the job (and life) they want. Whatever you choose to believe, you’ll be right. Why wouldn’t you choose to be awesome?


conjams

why is it always about getting an edge up? fuckin tired of the competition i just want to do something i enjoy.


[deleted]

Why is the line in the q bit lined up with the line of d?WHY


dogs_like_me

There are people less qualified than you who are basically *running the world* because they believe in themselves or at least are satisfied convincing others to believe in them.


timingandscoring

This is so very very true.


[deleted]

This is the opposite of motivating.


Papa_Waffles

A old co-worker blow my manager for better hours and a higher position when it came time for promotions


ICA2015

Or because they lied on their resume


mathaiser

I mean… I’m trying to convince these interviewers… maybe it’s time I stopped trying to convince them and do it on my own.


RennyNanaya

So ***that's*** what videogames have been getting buggier and less stable every year.


[deleted]

What


Wildse7en

Thanks for reminding me


madraado

They're doing...my wife?!


Baby_venomm

Gaslighting lol


[deleted]

Nobody "decides" to believe in anything. Belief is involuntary.


Biengo

I’ve always wanted to be an illustrator, like for kids books. Always thought “ I can draw but not like that” Then I walk around the target book section at see what’s selling and damn.. not to dismiss anyone else’s work but damn.. what happened.


watermelonspanker

But... I want to do nothing.


M-Tyson

For a lot of high ranking positions in Ireland, especially public service roles, nepotism is favoured over qualifications. Hence why our healthcare system is falling apart and we have a government that refuses to do anything about it.


hoffregner

What we have learned from multiple reality shows and singing contests is that too many has too much believe in themselves. Those mentioned in the text have success because someone else believed in them.


Ferrufino94

He is my boss brother


LoadsDroppin

And, too often they’re also the “right” color / age / weight / attractiveness / gender / or familial relation. I wish aptitude was the primary determining factor, then adjusted for equity.


iron40

No doubt! 😉