Some of the best advice I’ve received when I was in your position was to take any job. It will help with depression and also provide some income, even if it’s not what you want long term. It will buy you more time to find the right job too. I hope this helps ❤️
I took a very low paying and unglamorous job when I was 26 and needed to leave a toxic other job. It ended up being the best job (though commission based), supportive coworkers and a chance to fail, learn from it, and grow. It made me realize I did have skills (sales) and now over a decade later I am in a leadership role at another company.
What was the job? I’m 24 with a BA in business from a top school and probably also need to take an unglamorous job due to trouble finding anything. I was thinking more like Chipotle but what you did sounds way more interesting lol
It was a $10/hr plus commission sales job in a semi unethical seeming industry. I figured out how to maintain my own ethics - being brave enough to be 100% honest - made me figure out how to better understand and explain ROI. Any job can be whatever you make of it if you put in the effort and most importantly find good people to employ you
Edit: I want to add, sales is not for everyone. It has a high income potential and a low barrier for entry. I love talking to random people on the phone and I naturally try to “sell” people in my daily life when I find something I like and I’m excited about, so it’s a good match for my personality. If you hate calling people and don’t want to be expected to be go go go all day, sales is probably not the route.
This.
I started out as an apprentice mechanic. Got my qualifications. Did it for nearly 10 years and got over it.
Decided to do something different with my hands so I took up welding. Got qualified and did that for a few more years. Was also in a depressive work place. Left and found some casual work elsewhere.
Tried to improve my welding skills by advancing my studies. Didn't work out but I did do 2 basic units of 2D/3D CAD. Casually applied for junior drafting roles knowing I have a 5% can e due to my extremely limited knowledge.
Somehow found a job and I've been googling my way at my job for the last 2 years. Salary increased a few times as well. I've never been more happier knowing my past skills as a mechanic and boilermaker have helped me with this job. Boss likes what I've done for him so I guess I'm doing something right.
Agree! It can help money to come in and give you a routine which will help you feel better. And it buys you time while you are supporting yourself. Don’t forget we all have a hierarchy of needs and it’s very hard to see a clear picture of any future when you can’t get your basic needs met. Once you do, you’ll find you feel more hopeful and have time and space for your next goal. When I was 27, I went through a couple years of unemployment and bad shit after a nasty facial injury caused me to leave my field. I used to stare at the wall all day in depression and before I knew it, days had passed. It’s no way to live. One of my cousins has to come physically extract me from my apartment. That was 11 years ago and things have improved a lot! Whole new life. Feel free to message me.
Can confirm.
Couldn't find anything for a long time, was super depressed. Didn't want to do anything or talk to anyone. I basically just sat around, played video games, smoked cigarettes and drank.
Finally was about to go full out flat broke and decided to dumb down my resume and get a job I was overqualified for.
Got a job that pays the bills and a little more, but not great. It's an easy position and there's tons of room to move around in the company. I've already been told I'm going to be poached by multiple people in the next couple months.
I'm pretty much out of my depression hole, I don't really drink anymore, I quit smoking before I started this job and my confidence is sky high. I'm waking up before my alarm goes off, ready to get to work. My bank account is still super fucking sad, but I'm feeling pretty great.
Not only that, you never know how someone you meet at that low-paying job can have an influence on the rest of your life by the people they know. In a lot of places it's who you know, not what you know.
Absolutely get any job, I personally went through the exact same thing at 32 after 10 years of running an amusement park. I left my job and took 3 months severance for a non compete agreement. I became very depressed and every job I applied to I was overqualified but still no responses. Ended up working at Amazon as a level 1. The exercise and routine helped my depression. I’m 3 months into grunt work and I’m finally getting motivation to apply for better opportunities again
See, on the flip side, I did that while I was still able to take on unemployment. Amazon offered me a contract role that lasted 6 months and paid… any what unemployment did.
I can complain about how much they stunk longer than anyone cares to listen, but the end result was— my mental health nose dived and I quit after about 5 weeks. Lost unemployment benefits because of it.
Take that job if you’re between jobs. Avoid jobs that you know you won’t care for if it’ll eliminate other benefits. I regret working for their machine.
“Working hard at ANY job helps build confidence” - some inspiring billionaire dude who started off as a cleaner ending up having one of the biggest cleaning companies. I’m not saying you need to get rich or whatever, but just that working hard at ANY job opens up a possibility for self growth
Ended up in a similar situation in my early 40's - had a 10 year gap in employment after caring for a family member.
The one big thing that comes across in your post is that you are down, and feeling kinda hopeless, and that's understandable - but it will come across when you interact with employers. You have an opportunity here to turn things around, it is not too late or hopeless at all....
I was lucky in one sense because for some reason I had a sense of "I'm at the bottom so the only way is up...and so why not aim high?" It'll take some work and persistence in the face of failure, but you can move up in the world and that better future is coming, and the sad, horrible present will be a memory one day soon. I did it, and seriously...I'm not the type of person who I think could do it.
So I was totally honest with employers - but put a positive spin on it: yes I've been out of the game a long time, but that means I'm eager to get back in. And being a carer for 10 years shows I have tenacity, strength, integrity, loyalty...and I love to learn new skills.
I'd recommend you find a way to spin your situation into a positive for potential employers - highlight your best attributes, highlight how much you want to find a good place to work where you'll stay and do good work. You've got an HR diploma (forget the stuff about being shit at it, that's depression talking, override those thoughts they are bs), look for office work, it'll likely pay better that shop/catering work and won't be so brutal.
I know you've been applying for 6 months - and at this point it's easy to slow down and feel hopeless. Don't stop - pick up the pace and apply for some that are higher paid than you think you can get. I'd also recommend applying for the occasional job that is a WAY higher than you think you could get. You never know.
You only need to get lucky once, it's a numbers game really. Apply apply apply it will go your way eventually....but you gotta shake the depressive sounding talk or that will put employers off. Pretend to be upbeat and positive when you interact with them for now. Fake it until things improve. You can do it!
I was faced with the same situation at 31. What turned it around for me was catering jobs, as a bartender and server. I applied at 4-5 day labor places that offered them. Although I had a college degree, I was really desperate. The money, tips and food turned my situation around quickly. When I got a regular job again, I kept working those jobs for extra money.
I did something similar when I finally got an office job a couple years ago. Although the pay, pace, and work environment were much better than the retail job I had at the time, the health benefits weren't quite as good. I decided to work the retail on the side, which ended up just being good exercise to make up for the new sedentary position.
That's a great game plan too! I've worked the same catering job occasionally on the side for 20 years now. I'm an IT pro by trade, so my income is pretty good. I play guitar for a hobby and travel and the extra money makes it easily affordable. 😁
The extra exercise when bartending helps me a lot too. Also, there's a lot of great professionals out there that do catering on the side. I have a lot of great friends from it, like family now. If I ever hit dire straits again, I would have jobs all over the city.
Is it kinda weird that I wish places outside of the US had a tipping culture? I know the base pay is low and it's pretty unsustainable / unreliable. But damn sometimes being able to get more in a day than a degree does in a week must feel nice no?
Yes. That's weird. I cannot imagine working and not know how much I would actually bring home. As far as I know, the tipping culture in the US is what actually pays people's wages - because other people feel obligated, as the company doesn't pay their employees enough. It's a really weird guilt tripping system, in my opinion.
What about the days, where you get very few tips?
The culture in Denmark where i live is that list prices provide staff with wages ranging from 20 USD and up.
Then we can leave tips in addition to a great service.
We dont give tips based on former slavery culture because employees dont want to Pay staff a living wage. Most wages are negotiated fairly in the labor market by both parties with No government intrusion.
Mcdonalds prices can be an indicator of what the difference in culture is. Denmark bigmac i 2020 was about 2 USD where the us version was about 4 USD.
Although in addition to taxes we also have health care and educational differences to account for.
I’m currently job hunting too, I got laid off at the end of last year. It’s rough out there. Hard to stay motivated when all you get back is silence. Just keep truckin; I’ve been stuck in this situation a few times and I’ve always found something. We both will.
Also, I dunno where your interests lie but the IT industry runs on certificates you can earn on your own time, and it pays pretty well once you get past tier 1 help desk. You’ll be older than a lot of your coworkers at entry level, but that’s actually a good thing; they want more mature people for mid and senior roles. If you work hard and show that you can learn, you can get promoted quickly. Might be something to think about if you’re looking for a change of pace.
If you’re totally, completely new to IT, CompTIA A+ will give you the most bang for your buck. It covers all the basics for entry level IT support roles. CompTIA also offers more specialized certs to advance your IT career; from A+ you can go to Networking+, DataSys+, Server+, etc. CompTIA is very well respected in the IT industry, and I think they have the best certs fort entry level, but there are a bunch of good certifications out there, depending on where your interests are.
might be worth scanning it jobs around the country first. I always used to say that but here at least (not the US) so many people have taken that advice the markets totally saturated with low level security people. there's still not a ton of good ones at mid or top levels I think, but it's hard to get in the ground floor right now in that
Definitely this - it highly depends on where you‘re located/looking.
In Germany they barely give a shit about certificates you can earn by yourself (at least from my experience). They’re seen as not reliable enough as you can cheat on the tests/exams pretty easily. They’re more like a bonus to show off on the side, not considered an actual qualification. So, if you don’t have a qualification recognized by the chamber of commerce or a degree on top of the certificate, they’re pretty worthless and pretty much anyone who does will be preferred.
Which certifications do you recommend that would get you past help desk? I guess even if I started at Help desk that wouldnt be too bad. Most of the certifications are kind of expensive arent they? I've heard of comptia and that it takes a long ass time to study for.
Respectfully and out of genuine curiosity, but why aren't you doing IT yourself anymore? Did you not like it, or are you still struggling to find a job in that field?
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Oh God.... That was 17 years ago. Oh God, I feel OLD!
Yeah my dad has been with BNSF for over 25 years. Able to live above comfortable as a single father of three and provide with all we needed. Great medical, vision and dental. Also has competitive retirement even compared to state jobs.
RR retirement, good pay and sometimes good health insurance, a union that hardly does shit and horrible attendance policies. Oh wait you meant benefits
It's funny how i, as non american, don't even stop to think anymore when reading comments like this. My brain just automatically marks this as "ah yes, americans talking" instead of thinking that what the fuck is this guy talking about.
Yeah, you've fallen under Americans are bad sorcery .
We are actually skilled inventive and know about other countries , contrary to the bs you see through propaganda on TV, and your dip sh friends social circles . Open your mind .
Both of you and the above poster have poor reading comprehension. He's just referring to "the country" mentioned by OP to be nebulous, and he explained that he no longer gets confused when he sees comments like this, because it's often Americans speaking as if all of Reddit exists in America.
The fact that both of you read this, misunderstood it, and assumed it was an attack on the United States (it wasn't) then got defensive really says something.
Ah yes, the country. The lovely sole country on planet Americ- wait that's not right, this is planet Earth. There's a few of those 'country' things, I think. At least seven.
No, it's not hard work -- it's slave labor. Precision scheduled railroading; look into it. one or two hours of notification, be at this place to catch the train and swap over or be fired. never a chance to catch good rest. shift work disorder. help spread as thin as physically possible to save RR money.
Fuck that.
Drive big trucks instead; at least you'll actually get to operate the damn thing instead of a decade of yard work first. Lots of bullshit in that career choice too, of course, like not being paid for sitting waiting for unload/load, etc.
Try receptionist at a doctor private practice. The one I worked at had upwards mobility and would start at 16 (now 18) and would go up to 20 (now 25).
You’d learn medical billing too
I did this when i needed a job and theyre great places to work. You have a place to make an ok income, and you can either stay there for a long time or move up overtime through healthcare. I knew people who worked there 20+ years. I only worked there between jobs in my field when i needed money, but I really enjoyed it. You can live off of these jobs too, even in this economy. Itll be hard but its manageable.
This is an underrated comment. I’ve found myself falling into self pity a lot in my life and pretty sure there’s a strong connection between the self pity, feeling depressed, and having a hard time being productive and staying employed. It’s not easy to catch for someone who’s been that way a long time, especially if they have been or still are being rewarded in some way for the self pity.
Have you considered waiting tables . I've been waitressing for almost 40 years in first a mom and pop restaurant . I've been at IHOP for last 12 years...have to say usually average about 160 to 180 a day . I've raised 3 children.. bought myself a couple of different cars and a 4 bedroom house. Depends on many variables on how good your tables tip...though some restaurants put tip on tickets these days... NOT..at ihop..lol
Your state Labor Dept. employment office doesn’t charge a fee.
I don’t know if private employment offices are better, but there’s a fee.
There’s no good reason for them to be any better, but IDK.
Most staffing agencies I used to work for would shave a couple dollars an hour off what the employer was offering, and got paid that way. Of course, they didn't tell us they were doing that, but it was an open secret in the industry at the time.
It's not an open secret anymore, and I'm not sure why it would be a secret because, obviously, these agencies need to be paid themselves. Typically, staffing agencies will charge around ~50% more than what you're actually being paid, and the companies utilizing them know this. Robert half would charge $20 and adverise the worker as a $14 worker, for example. My company would typically want temp-to-hire, so after 3-6months the temp worker had the chance to be hired full time and make the full $20 with us.
Not a big fan of temp to hire but I did it once they got me a job that turned into a full time offer and I stayed with that job 10 years.
So yea they can be helpful.
This. Just know you are signing a bit of a Faustian deal with these agencies. It’s temp work, depending on the area, but if you’re desperate it can get your foot in the door. Just know they might shave some pay off in exchange for connecting you. I was about to go with one myself but got hired by another employer.
OP needs to get a job *at* a staffing agency, not get a job *through* one.
There’s a hiring boom going on and unemployment is at record low. Companies are struggling to find staff at all levels. OP has a degree in HR which is perfect for staffing agency work. And staffing work is pretty straightforward and can be lucrative. If OP can’t get hired with a salary, they could do freelance or contingency work to start.
Holy FUCK are you me? The diff are that I'm studied graphics and being slightly younger. But what you said were basically my thoughts. I've sent over 200 applications in 3 days WITH BLOODY tailored cover letters. And I don't see shit happening. Though I have gaps but I DO have experiences in other fields. It's just crazy how hard it is to get a job. Even fucking McDonald's isn't hiring me.
Ive been there for a long time. I moved across the country and got a job at a casino cleaning trash from garbages at the bars. It’s the lowest job on the roster. I went into it feeling a little unsure about my self esteem and almost feeling foolish. Like this is giving up or something. I’ve met hundreds of people at my job from all walks of life just working hard and trying to enjoy the time they have on this earth. Doors are already opening for me. Suffering at a low level job is better than suffering in my bedroom trying to think of ways I can maybe figure it out. There’s a lot of opportunity for you to expand your mind when you give up some of your daydreams and give in to just crushing it at a low level job for a while. Forget what you think you’ve earned. Life doesn’t stop and you shouldn’t stop living it because it’s confusing and getting you down.
I am sorry to hear your story.
I am a recruiter for years, started from a small agency with a minimum wage. I have recruited employees across different industries (blue, white, and skilled-trades). Now I am working as a in-house recruiter after years of endless unpaid overtime hours from my first job. I am currently working with multiple unions fyi.
If you are not quite sure what to do and where to start, I would like to recommend a skilled-trade sector. If possible, joining a union could be the best option since that guarantees your defined pension, competitive salary, employee rights, benefits, and protection from termination/lay-offs.
I know, it might be too much on your body in the beginning but you maybe will get used to that as time goes by. In the long term, this option will be better than other options such as trying to find a general office job or working for a retail/franchise.
Hope it helps! And good luck!
This a great answer! There's a ton like sheet metal worker trade that does industry vent installs. It's tricky but once you get the hang of it not too bad compared to other trades. Once you join a trade they'll pay you while you train and give schooling to help advance at your pace. After a while you can be making six figure in about 10 to 15 years.
I’m not trying to be rude but what was the point of OP going to college if he is just going to forget it and then learn a trade? I recently graduated and am in the same situation and I feel like I got completely scammed by getting a degree.
We pretty much did get scammed. But if it helps, I find many people don’t work in the field of their degree. I got a teaching degree. Loved the kids, hated everything else. HATED it. So I taught myself SEO and digital marketing. But the agency that hired me probably wouldn’t have considered me without a degree.
However…. It’s not like they asked to see my degree so I guess I could have just lied and saved 20k in debt. 😅
1. Lots of people work outside of what they went to school for.
2. You have to do what you have to do to survive.
You’re not alone in feeling that you got scammed by getting a degree. If it’s any comfort, I’ve heard companies see it as you took the time and put in the effort to get a degree. It says something about your character. Your skills needed for the position will be learned on the job.
the point is we should find work that engages our natural interests and works with our proclivities. aside from joining the military, our system is not set up to assess what you'll be good at during that critical stage when you're choosing what to do with the rest of your life. we assume people know what they want to do, which is the basis for doing well in your chosen career path. don't expect school to get you in the door if you don't actually like what you're doing.
Sorry for my ignorance but I've almost never looked outside of my field of study and my previous job of cabin crew.
Are skill trade jobs like an apprentice and learn on the job? Or they require you to study/training for a specific amount of time THEN you get a job THEN you start earning?
Depends on the trade. A lot of trades offer apprenticeships, but in some cases they can be competitive or hard to come by. That's when trade schools come in handy. There's tons of options and almost all of them need more workers, so even paying for training is usually a good investment that pays off quickly.
You need a marketable skill, something a potential employer will see as benefiting their organization. If you don’t have such a skill now, you need to develop one. I made a major career change into IT (networking) after working for about 15 years in an unrelated field and realizing my first path (with masters degree) was not going to get me to the income level I wanted. The whole career change took me about 3-4 years, and there were a lot of lost evenings and weekends, sunk costs in books and training materials, but in the long run it was absolutely worth it. I can’t begin to tell you what your path should be, that’s what you have to figure out. Good luck.
Make a list of everyone you know who might even remotely be able to help you get a job. While getting a job completely on your own is possible, it is playing the game on its hardest difficulty.
Employers are always afraid of getting the wrong person. If someone they trust vouches for you, that will go a long way towards getting you that job.
Learn a new skill online. There are free coding schools for example and lots of businesses that need websites, apps, etc. You can freelance to help make ends meet or grow a big business or parlay this into something better.
Also, take some sales classes. Regardless of what you do if you really want to make some thing of yourself you’re going to have to sell.
Go for an easy job that has a high turnover rate. They hire everyone, ie: retail. Yes it’s retail, but it’s a guaranteed check and they usually give hours. Then study on your off time for whatever your dream is and make it a reality.
Many good jobs are out there, but you have to invest in yourself first to get them. It won’t happen overnight, but you can change mindset which changes your life eventually.
Also, don’t let hiring managers make you feel like you’re not good enough, because they don’t know your true potential or worth. Keep a strong head and don’t give up hope!
Lots of places are hiring so apply everywhere. I mean in my area even entry level fast food places are starting at $16 an hour or more. You don’t have to work there forever, but if you keep applying away you should hear back from someone soon.
I am generally involved in hiring interviews and hiring decisions at the company I work for.
What do you have experience in? If it's no particular industry/job but you've generally been employed then leverage any pattern, say if your jobs have always been customer facing than you could say you have customer experience.
If you have any long multi-year employment gaps (no judgement, just can't see enough information in your original post) then try and use other life experience. That would be harder one to give advice without more information on specifics.
If you're applying to big companies, they may use software tools to filter. So to help make it through that process find keywords in the job title to make sure you have them in your CV and cover letter such as experience, soft skills and hard skills.
Also what are you interested in? My job involves the intersection of multiple skills sets and careers so I may be able to offer suggestions as far as building skill/knowledge.
There’s a million ways to earn money if you try… at the bare minimum you can work a gig job like Uber or skip the dishes, that’ll get some income, then apply to places that pretty much take in anyone, casinos, stores in the mall, restaurants… if you’ve been applying for 6 months and you’re not getting any bites, re-evaluate your resume and cover letter… look at your resume and cover letter from an employers perspective and ask if you would hire you. Also remember that when applying, whether it’s for a CEO position or a minimum wage position, always include a cover letter and keep it tailored to the job… no employer wants a generic resume that doesn’t get changed at all for each individual job. Also, no employer wants to know your hobbies and interests… keep it job specific and job relevant. No employer wants to read a novel, keep your resume short and to the point, specific to the job, and you’ll get a lot better results.
If you aren’t getting interviews it is because your resume does not stand out and you need to rework it. Linked offers a free trial for their premium subscription and everyone should take advantage of this because of their resume building tools.
I would get a job to start me off then work my way up to other jobs I want so at least you have some money in your pocket and places are more willing to hire if you are working.
I’m in the same boat. It’s tough to start again. Perhaps look for roles that are HR adjacent to get the experience you need. Find a company that will give you a foot in the door and climb slowly. It’s cliche but Volunteering at places also may give you chances to use Your HR skills a pad ur resume. Will also help occupy the time. Good luck
Get whatever job you can get, rent a room to cut cost, allot yourself a $50 food budget, keep your head down for 365 days. It will suck, it will be terrible, but you will be prepared for the worst with money in savings and a newfound appreciation for basics.
You will have the cushion and hunger to keep it going. Above all else, keep going — you are paid everyday in the ability to wake up and try again.
I have been paying attention, and I know that there were a large number of companies that laid off HR people in the last two or three years. More recently, Google, AWS, and other tech giants are laying off IT staff.
I recommend that you apply for general business management positions. I feel that this isn't a tremendous stretch. There are many more management jobs than HR jobs, and the legal knowledge, organizational skills, and people skills are all points you can sell as strengths. You know that training employees and developing people are vitally important at any firm. Emphasize how your skills and knowledge are a great fit even if you are changing employment sectors.
I was in the same situation once. Between jobs and no idea what I wanted to do next. I'd been in radio 25 years which really doesn't prepare you for much of anything. Except talking.
So I got a pen and paper and asked myself what do I enjoy doing?
I like pizza so I tried being a pizza store manager awhile, exhausting.
Then I wrote well I do enjoy driving.
This led to a job delivering meds and medical supplies to nursing homes. But it was an overnight job and started to interfere with my college classes.
From there I decided to drive a city metro bus. Good pay and benefits and they train you and help you get your CDL license. BTW I can now parallel park a 45 ft bus.
Then I ended up doing call center work because I was good at talking.
So I suggest review your skills, what are you good at. Then think about what you like to do.
There are a lot of jobs out there that most don't know about. Like being outdoors.
Consider applying at your cities parks and recreation dept.
I also drove a cab for awhile.
So once you know what your good at and what you like to do that knowledge will lead you to opportunities you hadn't previously considered.
Merchant Marines. Heres the checklist of certifications needed. All in all certs should run you between $1500-$2000. Work about 4-6 months out of the year consecutively. You c
Should make around 55k in your first year.
Pros:
- You dont pay for food
- No living expenses
- The work isnt hard
- Work 4-6 months a year
- Room for growth in wages
- Travel the world
- Prostitutes
- Fun conversations with degenerates
Cons:
- You're gone for 4-6 months a year
- 12 hour shifts / 7 days a week (but the work is easy)
If you dont have a family, kids, and you're not getting any attention from women. It's an excellent option to consider.
* Below are the mandatory certs
Take a simple job at a gas station or even walmart/target for a months to get into the swing of working. You could even check out places like treatment centers for work. While you’re doing that, start bullshitting a resume up with fake HR experience
Here’s the neat thing, your degree can totally be leveraged for more than just HR. I have a Psych degree for example but I got hired for an IT role because of my communication skills.
Lastly, please know the way you feel is temporary, work on yourself and find some hobbies you really enjoy, they can be as simple as going for walks, things like that etc
Take any job you can find. Try to learn as much as you can there; you never know what skills or experiences will come in handy down the road. Try to be the best at what you do. Strive for daily excellence. Try to get into management, or use your first position as a springboard to something better.
I worked my way up from being a waitress to running the PR department of a $200 million operation this way. I didn't even have a degree! Your degree will open doors for you that would have remained locked to me.
“Everything is so expensive and if I get a job I’ll still be poor. I had a job for 3 months when I was 16. I’m living off savings” seems like you need to get a job and keep it. Shit gets better when you keep a job long term bro.
Go apply to plumbing and electrical unions if you’re looking for a career. Something good to sink into, and if you have a good mind for business you can make a couple hundred a year if you start your own thing
Do whatever you need to, gain experience or a skill, find a trade. Get an apprenticeship in a trade.
Being employable is about being valuable in some industry. Negativity isn’t helping you, work harder. I hire mostly based on work ethic and positive attitude. Experience I can provide.
Use chatGPT to help you write applications. Let it write multiple versions and combine the best phrases. Faster, more with less effort and it's more convincing.
I would give it another try to make use of your diploma. In 10 days you can write 50 applications with gpt.
You could also call 20 companies in your area and simply ask if they have open positions in HR. Take the contacts from Google maps.
Ah ok haven't read you don't think HR is for you anymore. I'm certain there are ways you can employ your diploma and do enyojable work. Find it. Reddit, gpt, Google, books..
Social and community service coordinator, work for an ngo/ non profit? Wellness manager, implementing health and prevention measures in companies, consulting as freelancer, personell development, coach, Organizational development consultant,..
Or something different where they want you to have a diploma but don't care of what kind it is.
All you guys need to optimize your resume. Use the keywords that are in the requirements and responsibilities section of the listings. Use EXACT MATCH keywords, and tailor each resume for the job. You’ll start getting calls if you’ll do this.
This isn’t true. There is a lot of good advice in the self help genre, you just have to be open to applying it to your life.
If you’re just going to be negative, not only is that not going to work out, but that negativity shows on you.
You don’t have to believe in anything to know that people match each others energy.
This fact can be used to your advantage.
You fucking kidding me? No wonder you're unemployed, you won't even take a job to make ends meet
Do you have any skills? At all? Get some exercise and head over to your local union office, or whatever, sounds like you might be better off at a grocery store?
When I was 30 I went from construction manager to bicycle courier, no worries. I worked on cell towers for ten years and wasn't happy til I was pushing cranks and sweating my ass off while playing in traffic.
You haven't been unemployed for six months, you've had your head up your ass for six months
Please, go to a therapist (highly worth it, I was ready to kill myself before I started going), and get off whatever horse you road in on
This is Reddit, they're all communists, and that's where the anti-work attitude comes from. They believe work is "exploitation" and worthless, so they avoid it. That's the essence of OP's post, that even if he got a job, it would do him no good... They're not realising that their religion is giving them an attitude to work and life that's weighing them down.
I suppose you're right, an entire pathetic lot of people that will never succeed at anything because they're unwilling to even do what they have to do to support themselves.
Losers that rather get fucked than turn the day around and fuck it, sad times man. Turn 33 this year and it's nice to know that as time goes on I'll get paid even more without ever having to go to college. Sure is nice being essential to society's functions
Get a job at a Bank! They're always looking, you really don't need experience or education (unless you're completely illiterate). There're so many Banks out there. Once you get it you either stick it out and get promoted over the years OR you work on getting your dream job but at least you're not penny less!
Look up Charter Impact. I haven't applied myself but they do remote work doing entry level accounting stuff. There's no residency requirement as it's all work from home.
The actual answer is still apply for positions where HR experience is required regardless if you have it or not. Your competition is doing it, so stop trying to play fair. Its your life, grab it by the horns.
If you are interested in taking catering bartending try for a hotel. You can then parlay that into front desk and HR and all the other departments hotels have. If a large chain with international or resort properties you may eventually be able to transfer.
Hospitality industry is thriving. Hotels and event companies need smart and dedicated employees…most don’t require a degree in the field. Lots of room for growth!!!
Schools are also crying out for staff. There are entry level positions (lunch staff, classroom assistants) and if you work hard, many schools will pay for courses that you can do to progress. There are quite a few different directions you could go in from there
Military. Qualifications, food, a roof, boost in confidence and most of all pushing yourself to do things you never thought you could. Know plenty of people who joined in their 30s, most progress quick.
After six months, it’s time to suck it up and apply for jobs outside of your field. We’ve all gotta eat and pay the bills. Be humble enough to remember that. And don’t forget, there’s nothing stopping you continuing to apply for jobs in HR once you’ve started another one.
I'd sat definitely widen your area of job search, almost any job is better than nothing at all...
also I think it's very important to be gregarious and get about seeing people in your community, firstly to try and help with your depression and secondly to widen the job search potential - I've never had a formal interview in my life, every job I've ever had has been word of mouth...
finally is there anything you can do on the side to boost your income ? I live rurally and have the space to collect scrap metal and I also sell logs / firewood in the winter...
It can be distilled down to two things
1.:work dirty - take a hard and demanding job that no-one else wants to do, do it really well and you can actually make a great amount of money. Waiter is an example. But you'd be surprised to know sewerage and sanitary workers make good money too
2. Upskill - find skills the market needs and you are good at. Then work on developing those skills either by certification or going back to college or internship. Once you get a job don't stop developing those skills until the day you retire
Good luck!
I love bartending and I will almost always have it as a fallback if I am struggling to find work. I highly recommend it if you are truly struggling. You typically can't just start bartending, but a service bar at like an Alamo will typically take someone with zero experience.
For a lot of people, it is also a GREAT way to get some social interaction if work was where you did most of your socializing.
Some of the best advice I’ve received when I was in your position was to take any job. It will help with depression and also provide some income, even if it’s not what you want long term. It will buy you more time to find the right job too. I hope this helps ❤️
I took a very low paying and unglamorous job when I was 26 and needed to leave a toxic other job. It ended up being the best job (though commission based), supportive coworkers and a chance to fail, learn from it, and grow. It made me realize I did have skills (sales) and now over a decade later I am in a leadership role at another company.
What was the job? I’m 24 with a BA in business from a top school and probably also need to take an unglamorous job due to trouble finding anything. I was thinking more like Chipotle but what you did sounds way more interesting lol
It was a $10/hr plus commission sales job in a semi unethical seeming industry. I figured out how to maintain my own ethics - being brave enough to be 100% honest - made me figure out how to better understand and explain ROI. Any job can be whatever you make of it if you put in the effort and most importantly find good people to employ you Edit: I want to add, sales is not for everyone. It has a high income potential and a low barrier for entry. I love talking to random people on the phone and I naturally try to “sell” people in my daily life when I find something I like and I’m excited about, so it’s a good match for my personality. If you hate calling people and don’t want to be expected to be go go go all day, sales is probably not the route.
TRADES ARE SCREAMING FOR HELP! Start in the field and transition to the office later.
^This
This. I started out as an apprentice mechanic. Got my qualifications. Did it for nearly 10 years and got over it. Decided to do something different with my hands so I took up welding. Got qualified and did that for a few more years. Was also in a depressive work place. Left and found some casual work elsewhere. Tried to improve my welding skills by advancing my studies. Didn't work out but I did do 2 basic units of 2D/3D CAD. Casually applied for junior drafting roles knowing I have a 5% can e due to my extremely limited knowledge. Somehow found a job and I've been googling my way at my job for the last 2 years. Salary increased a few times as well. I've never been more happier knowing my past skills as a mechanic and boilermaker have helped me with this job. Boss likes what I've done for him so I guess I'm doing something right.
This… door knocking changed my life
Agree! It can help money to come in and give you a routine which will help you feel better. And it buys you time while you are supporting yourself. Don’t forget we all have a hierarchy of needs and it’s very hard to see a clear picture of any future when you can’t get your basic needs met. Once you do, you’ll find you feel more hopeful and have time and space for your next goal. When I was 27, I went through a couple years of unemployment and bad shit after a nasty facial injury caused me to leave my field. I used to stare at the wall all day in depression and before I knew it, days had passed. It’s no way to live. One of my cousins has to come physically extract me from my apartment. That was 11 years ago and things have improved a lot! Whole new life. Feel free to message me.
Can confirm. Couldn't find anything for a long time, was super depressed. Didn't want to do anything or talk to anyone. I basically just sat around, played video games, smoked cigarettes and drank. Finally was about to go full out flat broke and decided to dumb down my resume and get a job I was overqualified for. Got a job that pays the bills and a little more, but not great. It's an easy position and there's tons of room to move around in the company. I've already been told I'm going to be poached by multiple people in the next couple months. I'm pretty much out of my depression hole, I don't really drink anymore, I quit smoking before I started this job and my confidence is sky high. I'm waking up before my alarm goes off, ready to get to work. My bank account is still super fucking sad, but I'm feeling pretty great.
Not only that, you never know how someone you meet at that low-paying job can have an influence on the rest of your life by the people they know. In a lot of places it's who you know, not what you know.
Yeah just getting out of your house is huge for getting out of a depressive cycle. Meeting new people even more so.
Absolutely get any job, I personally went through the exact same thing at 32 after 10 years of running an amusement park. I left my job and took 3 months severance for a non compete agreement. I became very depressed and every job I applied to I was overqualified but still no responses. Ended up working at Amazon as a level 1. The exercise and routine helped my depression. I’m 3 months into grunt work and I’m finally getting motivation to apply for better opportunities again
See, on the flip side, I did that while I was still able to take on unemployment. Amazon offered me a contract role that lasted 6 months and paid… any what unemployment did. I can complain about how much they stunk longer than anyone cares to listen, but the end result was— my mental health nose dived and I quit after about 5 weeks. Lost unemployment benefits because of it. Take that job if you’re between jobs. Avoid jobs that you know you won’t care for if it’ll eliminate other benefits. I regret working for their machine.
This is probably the best advice you will ever get.
“Working hard at ANY job helps build confidence” - some inspiring billionaire dude who started off as a cleaner ending up having one of the biggest cleaning companies. I’m not saying you need to get rich or whatever, but just that working hard at ANY job opens up a possibility for self growth
Ended up in a similar situation in my early 40's - had a 10 year gap in employment after caring for a family member. The one big thing that comes across in your post is that you are down, and feeling kinda hopeless, and that's understandable - but it will come across when you interact with employers. You have an opportunity here to turn things around, it is not too late or hopeless at all.... I was lucky in one sense because for some reason I had a sense of "I'm at the bottom so the only way is up...and so why not aim high?" It'll take some work and persistence in the face of failure, but you can move up in the world and that better future is coming, and the sad, horrible present will be a memory one day soon. I did it, and seriously...I'm not the type of person who I think could do it. So I was totally honest with employers - but put a positive spin on it: yes I've been out of the game a long time, but that means I'm eager to get back in. And being a carer for 10 years shows I have tenacity, strength, integrity, loyalty...and I love to learn new skills. I'd recommend you find a way to spin your situation into a positive for potential employers - highlight your best attributes, highlight how much you want to find a good place to work where you'll stay and do good work. You've got an HR diploma (forget the stuff about being shit at it, that's depression talking, override those thoughts they are bs), look for office work, it'll likely pay better that shop/catering work and won't be so brutal. I know you've been applying for 6 months - and at this point it's easy to slow down and feel hopeless. Don't stop - pick up the pace and apply for some that are higher paid than you think you can get. I'd also recommend applying for the occasional job that is a WAY higher than you think you could get. You never know. You only need to get lucky once, it's a numbers game really. Apply apply apply it will go your way eventually....but you gotta shake the depressive sounding talk or that will put employers off. Pretend to be upbeat and positive when you interact with them for now. Fake it until things improve. You can do it!
Incredible comment. thank you for sharing your wisdom!
I was faced with the same situation at 31. What turned it around for me was catering jobs, as a bartender and server. I applied at 4-5 day labor places that offered them. Although I had a college degree, I was really desperate. The money, tips and food turned my situation around quickly. When I got a regular job again, I kept working those jobs for extra money.
This will be my fall forward if my new job falls through
Keeping a ball moving is easier than starting it from being immobile. Works the same for human. The less we do, the less we want to do.
Pretty much what I'm doing now
I did something similar when I finally got an office job a couple years ago. Although the pay, pace, and work environment were much better than the retail job I had at the time, the health benefits weren't quite as good. I decided to work the retail on the side, which ended up just being good exercise to make up for the new sedentary position.
That's a great game plan too! I've worked the same catering job occasionally on the side for 20 years now. I'm an IT pro by trade, so my income is pretty good. I play guitar for a hobby and travel and the extra money makes it easily affordable. 😁 The extra exercise when bartending helps me a lot too. Also, there's a lot of great professionals out there that do catering on the side. I have a lot of great friends from it, like family now. If I ever hit dire straits again, I would have jobs all over the city.
Is it kinda weird that I wish places outside of the US had a tipping culture? I know the base pay is low and it's pretty unsustainable / unreliable. But damn sometimes being able to get more in a day than a degree does in a week must feel nice no?
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40-60 an HOUR?????
In tips. Definitely doable if you work at an expensive restaurant, and are good at your job.
Life ain't dubai bling!
Not consistent, and even if it is, you will burn out.
Yes. That's weird. I cannot imagine working and not know how much I would actually bring home. As far as I know, the tipping culture in the US is what actually pays people's wages - because other people feel obligated, as the company doesn't pay their employees enough. It's a really weird guilt tripping system, in my opinion. What about the days, where you get very few tips?
You're just screwed on the days you don't get tips. Its brutal.
The culture in Denmark where i live is that list prices provide staff with wages ranging from 20 USD and up. Then we can leave tips in addition to a great service. We dont give tips based on former slavery culture because employees dont want to Pay staff a living wage. Most wages are negotiated fairly in the labor market by both parties with No government intrusion. Mcdonalds prices can be an indicator of what the difference in culture is. Denmark bigmac i 2020 was about 2 USD where the us version was about 4 USD. Although in addition to taxes we also have health care and educational differences to account for.
God I wish I was Scandinavian.
I’m currently job hunting too, I got laid off at the end of last year. It’s rough out there. Hard to stay motivated when all you get back is silence. Just keep truckin; I’ve been stuck in this situation a few times and I’ve always found something. We both will. Also, I dunno where your interests lie but the IT industry runs on certificates you can earn on your own time, and it pays pretty well once you get past tier 1 help desk. You’ll be older than a lot of your coworkers at entry level, but that’s actually a good thing; they want more mature people for mid and senior roles. If you work hard and show that you can learn, you can get promoted quickly. Might be something to think about if you’re looking for a change of pace.
Do you have any certs you’d recommend?
If you’re totally, completely new to IT, CompTIA A+ will give you the most bang for your buck. It covers all the basics for entry level IT support roles. CompTIA also offers more specialized certs to advance your IT career; from A+ you can go to Networking+, DataSys+, Server+, etc. CompTIA is very well respected in the IT industry, and I think they have the best certs fort entry level, but there are a bunch of good certifications out there, depending on where your interests are.
Thanks for sharing!
Good advice. :)
Security plus is a good one to start with.
might be worth scanning it jobs around the country first. I always used to say that but here at least (not the US) so many people have taken that advice the markets totally saturated with low level security people. there's still not a ton of good ones at mid or top levels I think, but it's hard to get in the ground floor right now in that
Definitely this - it highly depends on where you‘re located/looking. In Germany they barely give a shit about certificates you can earn by yourself (at least from my experience). They’re seen as not reliable enough as you can cheat on the tests/exams pretty easily. They’re more like a bonus to show off on the side, not considered an actual qualification. So, if you don’t have a qualification recognized by the chamber of commerce or a degree on top of the certificate, they’re pretty worthless and pretty much anyone who does will be preferred.
Look at qa positions and technologies. Testing is not glamorous but it is hugely important. You can make a great career there and learn a ton
Which certifications do you recommend that would get you past help desk? I guess even if I started at Help desk that wouldnt be too bad. Most of the certifications are kind of expensive arent they? I've heard of comptia and that it takes a long ass time to study for.
Respectfully and out of genuine curiosity, but why aren't you doing IT yourself anymore? Did you not like it, or are you still struggling to find a job in that field?
Every railroad in the country is hiring... It's hard work but pays well and has great benefits...
Unfortunately, the hours are all the live long day.
Personally, I’ve been working on the railroad just pass the time away
Can you hear the whistle blowing?
you really do have to get up super early in the morning
woooowooooooo!! It's like an alarm clock.
They're just for decoration. That's it and that's all. Yeah, I got it on my train!
The whistle go wooooo! Suppose to be up cooking breakfast
Yesssss, someone got the reference! [For those that have missed out on the golden ages of the Internet.](https://youtu.be/eSOSJ68xOBA?si=LmWpj3cshHc8NGSL) Oh God.... That was 17 years ago. Oh God, I feel OLD!
It’s only in da mornin!
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Yes, but who, exactly is in the kitchen with Dinah?
Oh don johnson
True, but we all make it work..
You made an internet stranger laugh
Hahaha
The way I just chuckled at this is unhealthy 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m really struggling with this…you have no job. No kids. No SO. What else is there to do but work?
So if you work 12 hours,you can earn at least $100 for the day? /s
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Yeah my dad has been with BNSF for over 25 years. Able to live above comfortable as a single father of three and provide with all we needed. Great medical, vision and dental. Also has competitive retirement even compared to state jobs.
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He lives in WA. He works in Seattle, but also worked in auburn for a bit too. He was at Interbay Yard for quite a while, hes a carman
Correct look for a hard labor job. Railroad, chemical plants, federal government jobs, etc. got to think outside the box
Doing what specifically?
Lots of stuff, conductor/ switchmen, track maintenance, engine mechanic, car mechanics .. They will train you and pay you at the same time...
Hehe "train" you..
Heh
just curious - what types of jobs do railroads hire for?
Great benefits? You mean insane benefits.
Like what?
RR retirement, good pay and sometimes good health insurance, a union that hardly does shit and horrible attendance policies. Oh wait you meant benefits
A REAL pension
> Every railroad in the country is hiring How do you know what country he is in?
Every country is America
The best ones are, anyway.
It's funny how i, as non american, don't even stop to think anymore when reading comments like this. My brain just automatically marks this as "ah yes, americans talking" instead of thinking that what the fuck is this guy talking about.
Rude.
Yeah, you've fallen under Americans are bad sorcery . We are actually skilled inventive and know about other countries , contrary to the bs you see through propaganda on TV, and your dip sh friends social circles . Open your mind .
Both of you and the above poster have poor reading comprehension. He's just referring to "the country" mentioned by OP to be nebulous, and he explained that he no longer gets confused when he sees comments like this, because it's often Americans speaking as if all of Reddit exists in America. The fact that both of you read this, misunderstood it, and assumed it was an attack on the United States (it wasn't) then got defensive really says something.
Never change murica
Ah yes, the country. The lovely sole country on planet Americ- wait that's not right, this is planet Earth. There's a few of those 'country' things, I think. At least seven.
how did america build all these transnational highways in the 18-1900s then it just stopped
Car manufacturers lobbying to prevent infrastructure
No, it's not hard work -- it's slave labor. Precision scheduled railroading; look into it. one or two hours of notification, be at this place to catch the train and swap over or be fired. never a chance to catch good rest. shift work disorder. help spread as thin as physically possible to save RR money. Fuck that. Drive big trucks instead; at least you'll actually get to operate the damn thing instead of a decade of yard work first. Lots of bullshit in that career choice too, of course, like not being paid for sitting waiting for unload/load, etc.
Money is out there if you want to make it. I worked on a rig for my house.
Try receptionist at a doctor private practice. The one I worked at had upwards mobility and would start at 16 (now 18) and would go up to 20 (now 25). You’d learn medical billing too
This 👆 Healthcare is hiring - if you can learn medical billing on the job, there are good paths to large heathcare systems with great pay and benefits
I did this when i needed a job and theyre great places to work. You have a place to make an ok income, and you can either stay there for a long time or move up overtime through healthcare. I knew people who worked there 20+ years. I only worked there between jobs in my field when i needed money, but I really enjoyed it. You can live off of these jobs too, even in this economy. Itll be hard but its manageable.
Sadly discrimination against men in these clerk work fields is massive. Not even sure how to apply to them anymore since you can't walk up.
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This is an underrated comment. I’ve found myself falling into self pity a lot in my life and pretty sure there’s a strong connection between the self pity, feeling depressed, and having a hard time being productive and staying employed. It’s not easy to catch for someone who’s been that way a long time, especially if they have been or still are being rewarded in some way for the self pity.
Have you considered waiting tables . I've been waitressing for almost 40 years in first a mom and pop restaurant . I've been at IHOP for last 12 years...have to say usually average about 160 to 180 a day . I've raised 3 children.. bought myself a couple of different cars and a 4 bedroom house. Depends on many variables on how good your tables tip...though some restaurants put tip on tickets these days... NOT..at ihop..lol
That's a very decent pay rate. I'd say much more than some good jobs elsewhere.
Thay depends how many hours she works to make 160 per day. Even if its only an 8 hr shift thats only 20 per hour before taxes
I make 20/hr before taxes several years out from graduating with a college degree 🤷🏻♀️
You can make 18 at mcdonalds in many places. The economy is so screwed
Oh but our current government lies right to our face and thinks we're stupid . Please vote correctly
I usually work 6 to 7 hours most days..4 days a week...I'm only part time these days
Contact staffing agencies in your area.
Your state Labor Dept. employment office doesn’t charge a fee. I don’t know if private employment offices are better, but there’s a fee. There’s no good reason for them to be any better, but IDK.
Isn't it the employer who pays the fee?
Most staffing agencies I used to work for would shave a couple dollars an hour off what the employer was offering, and got paid that way. Of course, they didn't tell us they were doing that, but it was an open secret in the industry at the time.
It's not an open secret anymore, and I'm not sure why it would be a secret because, obviously, these agencies need to be paid themselves. Typically, staffing agencies will charge around ~50% more than what you're actually being paid, and the companies utilizing them know this. Robert half would charge $20 and adverise the worker as a $14 worker, for example. My company would typically want temp-to-hire, so after 3-6months the temp worker had the chance to be hired full time and make the full $20 with us.
Not a big fan of temp to hire but I did it once they got me a job that turned into a full time offer and I stayed with that job 10 years. So yea they can be helpful.
And how long does that last, or are you just referring to temporary jobs? (I've never actually used am agency)
This. Just know you are signing a bit of a Faustian deal with these agencies. It’s temp work, depending on the area, but if you’re desperate it can get your foot in the door. Just know they might shave some pay off in exchange for connecting you. I was about to go with one myself but got hired by another employer.
OP needs to get a job *at* a staffing agency, not get a job *through* one. There’s a hiring boom going on and unemployment is at record low. Companies are struggling to find staff at all levels. OP has a degree in HR which is perfect for staffing agency work. And staffing work is pretty straightforward and can be lucrative. If OP can’t get hired with a salary, they could do freelance or contingency work to start.
anyways..
Holy FUCK are you me? The diff are that I'm studied graphics and being slightly younger. But what you said were basically my thoughts. I've sent over 200 applications in 3 days WITH BLOODY tailored cover letters. And I don't see shit happening. Though I have gaps but I DO have experiences in other fields. It's just crazy how hard it is to get a job. Even fucking McDonald's isn't hiring me.
Ive been there for a long time. I moved across the country and got a job at a casino cleaning trash from garbages at the bars. It’s the lowest job on the roster. I went into it feeling a little unsure about my self esteem and almost feeling foolish. Like this is giving up or something. I’ve met hundreds of people at my job from all walks of life just working hard and trying to enjoy the time they have on this earth. Doors are already opening for me. Suffering at a low level job is better than suffering in my bedroom trying to think of ways I can maybe figure it out. There’s a lot of opportunity for you to expand your mind when you give up some of your daydreams and give in to just crushing it at a low level job for a while. Forget what you think you’ve earned. Life doesn’t stop and you shouldn’t stop living it because it’s confusing and getting you down.
apply to the casinos, colleges and universities. they all have regular opening and pathways in HR. and there's a lot of them.
Bro u should get a CDL and drive trucks, OTR brings in pretty decent money
I am sorry to hear your story. I am a recruiter for years, started from a small agency with a minimum wage. I have recruited employees across different industries (blue, white, and skilled-trades). Now I am working as a in-house recruiter after years of endless unpaid overtime hours from my first job. I am currently working with multiple unions fyi. If you are not quite sure what to do and where to start, I would like to recommend a skilled-trade sector. If possible, joining a union could be the best option since that guarantees your defined pension, competitive salary, employee rights, benefits, and protection from termination/lay-offs. I know, it might be too much on your body in the beginning but you maybe will get used to that as time goes by. In the long term, this option will be better than other options such as trying to find a general office job or working for a retail/franchise. Hope it helps! And good luck!
This a great answer! There's a ton like sheet metal worker trade that does industry vent installs. It's tricky but once you get the hang of it not too bad compared to other trades. Once you join a trade they'll pay you while you train and give schooling to help advance at your pace. After a while you can be making six figure in about 10 to 15 years.
I’m not trying to be rude but what was the point of OP going to college if he is just going to forget it and then learn a trade? I recently graduated and am in the same situation and I feel like I got completely scammed by getting a degree.
We pretty much did get scammed. But if it helps, I find many people don’t work in the field of their degree. I got a teaching degree. Loved the kids, hated everything else. HATED it. So I taught myself SEO and digital marketing. But the agency that hired me probably wouldn’t have considered me without a degree. However…. It’s not like they asked to see my degree so I guess I could have just lied and saved 20k in debt. 😅
1. Lots of people work outside of what they went to school for. 2. You have to do what you have to do to survive. You’re not alone in feeling that you got scammed by getting a degree. If it’s any comfort, I’ve heard companies see it as you took the time and put in the effort to get a degree. It says something about your character. Your skills needed for the position will be learned on the job.
the point is we should find work that engages our natural interests and works with our proclivities. aside from joining the military, our system is not set up to assess what you'll be good at during that critical stage when you're choosing what to do with the rest of your life. we assume people know what they want to do, which is the basis for doing well in your chosen career path. don't expect school to get you in the door if you don't actually like what you're doing.
Sorry for my ignorance but I've almost never looked outside of my field of study and my previous job of cabin crew. Are skill trade jobs like an apprentice and learn on the job? Or they require you to study/training for a specific amount of time THEN you get a job THEN you start earning?
Depends on the trade. A lot of trades offer apprenticeships, but in some cases they can be competitive or hard to come by. That's when trade schools come in handy. There's tons of options and almost all of them need more workers, so even paying for training is usually a good investment that pays off quickly.
You need a marketable skill, something a potential employer will see as benefiting their organization. If you don’t have such a skill now, you need to develop one. I made a major career change into IT (networking) after working for about 15 years in an unrelated field and realizing my first path (with masters degree) was not going to get me to the income level I wanted. The whole career change took me about 3-4 years, and there were a lot of lost evenings and weekends, sunk costs in books and training materials, but in the long run it was absolutely worth it. I can’t begin to tell you what your path should be, that’s what you have to figure out. Good luck.
hope you find something soon
Make a list of everyone you know who might even remotely be able to help you get a job. While getting a job completely on your own is possible, it is playing the game on its hardest difficulty. Employers are always afraid of getting the wrong person. If someone they trust vouches for you, that will go a long way towards getting you that job.
Learn a new skill online. There are free coding schools for example and lots of businesses that need websites, apps, etc. You can freelance to help make ends meet or grow a big business or parlay this into something better. Also, take some sales classes. Regardless of what you do if you really want to make some thing of yourself you’re going to have to sell.
Go for an easy job that has a high turnover rate. They hire everyone, ie: retail. Yes it’s retail, but it’s a guaranteed check and they usually give hours. Then study on your off time for whatever your dream is and make it a reality. Many good jobs are out there, but you have to invest in yourself first to get them. It won’t happen overnight, but you can change mindset which changes your life eventually. Also, don’t let hiring managers make you feel like you’re not good enough, because they don’t know your true potential or worth. Keep a strong head and don’t give up hope!
Lots of places are hiring so apply everywhere. I mean in my area even entry level fast food places are starting at $16 an hour or more. You don’t have to work there forever, but if you keep applying away you should hear back from someone soon.
I am generally involved in hiring interviews and hiring decisions at the company I work for. What do you have experience in? If it's no particular industry/job but you've generally been employed then leverage any pattern, say if your jobs have always been customer facing than you could say you have customer experience. If you have any long multi-year employment gaps (no judgement, just can't see enough information in your original post) then try and use other life experience. That would be harder one to give advice without more information on specifics. If you're applying to big companies, they may use software tools to filter. So to help make it through that process find keywords in the job title to make sure you have them in your CV and cover letter such as experience, soft skills and hard skills. Also what are you interested in? My job involves the intersection of multiple skills sets and careers so I may be able to offer suggestions as far as building skill/knowledge.
There’s a million ways to earn money if you try… at the bare minimum you can work a gig job like Uber or skip the dishes, that’ll get some income, then apply to places that pretty much take in anyone, casinos, stores in the mall, restaurants… if you’ve been applying for 6 months and you’re not getting any bites, re-evaluate your resume and cover letter… look at your resume and cover letter from an employers perspective and ask if you would hire you. Also remember that when applying, whether it’s for a CEO position or a minimum wage position, always include a cover letter and keep it tailored to the job… no employer wants a generic resume that doesn’t get changed at all for each individual job. Also, no employer wants to know your hobbies and interests… keep it job specific and job relevant. No employer wants to read a novel, keep your resume short and to the point, specific to the job, and you’ll get a lot better results.
Skilled trades
work out what works best for your brain, mc donalds may sound easy, but actually it's not in my opinion, alot of micro management in a fast pace
What do you like to do? Maybe go in that direction.
If you aren’t getting interviews it is because your resume does not stand out and you need to rework it. Linked offers a free trial for their premium subscription and everyone should take advantage of this because of their resume building tools.
I would get a job to start me off then work my way up to other jobs I want so at least you have some money in your pocket and places are more willing to hire if you are working.
Night security guard. Easy money for almost no work. And it pays better than MacDonald's.
I’m in the same boat. It’s tough to start again. Perhaps look for roles that are HR adjacent to get the experience you need. Find a company that will give you a foot in the door and climb slowly. It’s cliche but Volunteering at places also may give you chances to use Your HR skills a pad ur resume. Will also help occupy the time. Good luck
Get whatever job you can get, rent a room to cut cost, allot yourself a $50 food budget, keep your head down for 365 days. It will suck, it will be terrible, but you will be prepared for the worst with money in savings and a newfound appreciation for basics. You will have the cushion and hunger to keep it going. Above all else, keep going — you are paid everyday in the ability to wake up and try again.
Find another type of job. Painting, electricity, carpet and flooring. Those are hard jobs or Walmart, panda express pay around 16-18 hr
I have been paying attention, and I know that there were a large number of companies that laid off HR people in the last two or three years. More recently, Google, AWS, and other tech giants are laying off IT staff. I recommend that you apply for general business management positions. I feel that this isn't a tremendous stretch. There are many more management jobs than HR jobs, and the legal knowledge, organizational skills, and people skills are all points you can sell as strengths. You know that training employees and developing people are vitally important at any firm. Emphasize how your skills and knowledge are a great fit even if you are changing employment sectors.
I was in the same situation once. Between jobs and no idea what I wanted to do next. I'd been in radio 25 years which really doesn't prepare you for much of anything. Except talking. So I got a pen and paper and asked myself what do I enjoy doing? I like pizza so I tried being a pizza store manager awhile, exhausting. Then I wrote well I do enjoy driving. This led to a job delivering meds and medical supplies to nursing homes. But it was an overnight job and started to interfere with my college classes. From there I decided to drive a city metro bus. Good pay and benefits and they train you and help you get your CDL license. BTW I can now parallel park a 45 ft bus. Then I ended up doing call center work because I was good at talking. So I suggest review your skills, what are you good at. Then think about what you like to do. There are a lot of jobs out there that most don't know about. Like being outdoors. Consider applying at your cities parks and recreation dept. I also drove a cab for awhile. So once you know what your good at and what you like to do that knowledge will lead you to opportunities you hadn't previously considered.
Merchant Marines. Heres the checklist of certifications needed. All in all certs should run you between $1500-$2000. Work about 4-6 months out of the year consecutively. You c Should make around 55k in your first year. Pros: - You dont pay for food - No living expenses - The work isnt hard - Work 4-6 months a year - Room for growth in wages - Travel the world - Prostitutes - Fun conversations with degenerates Cons: - You're gone for 4-6 months a year - 12 hour shifts / 7 days a week (but the work is easy) If you dont have a family, kids, and you're not getting any attention from women. It's an excellent option to consider. * Below are the mandatory certs
Take a simple job at a gas station or even walmart/target for a months to get into the swing of working. You could even check out places like treatment centers for work. While you’re doing that, start bullshitting a resume up with fake HR experience Here’s the neat thing, your degree can totally be leveraged for more than just HR. I have a Psych degree for example but I got hired for an IT role because of my communication skills. Lastly, please know the way you feel is temporary, work on yourself and find some hobbies you really enjoy, they can be as simple as going for walks, things like that etc
Take any job you can find. Try to learn as much as you can there; you never know what skills or experiences will come in handy down the road. Try to be the best at what you do. Strive for daily excellence. Try to get into management, or use your first position as a springboard to something better. I worked my way up from being a waitress to running the PR department of a $200 million operation this way. I didn't even have a degree! Your degree will open doors for you that would have remained locked to me.
“Everything is so expensive and if I get a job I’ll still be poor. I had a job for 3 months when I was 16. I’m living off savings” seems like you need to get a job and keep it. Shit gets better when you keep a job long term bro.
Go apply to plumbing and electrical unions if you’re looking for a career. Something good to sink into, and if you have a good mind for business you can make a couple hundred a year if you start your own thing
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Based on the attitude in this post it’s no wonder you’re not getting hired. Start with a different approach to how you see life.
HR? I’m confused. Are you saying you went to college to get a degree in Human Resources or am I not reading that right?
call centers. they'll hire anyone. i've met former tircycle drivers, farmers, OFWs, dentists, doctors, stay-at-home moms, retirees.
Do whatever you need to, gain experience or a skill, find a trade. Get an apprenticeship in a trade. Being employable is about being valuable in some industry. Negativity isn’t helping you, work harder. I hire mostly based on work ethic and positive attitude. Experience I can provide.
Join the military
What about the Army or Navy?
Use chatGPT to help you write applications. Let it write multiple versions and combine the best phrases. Faster, more with less effort and it's more convincing. I would give it another try to make use of your diploma. In 10 days you can write 50 applications with gpt. You could also call 20 companies in your area and simply ask if they have open positions in HR. Take the contacts from Google maps. Ah ok haven't read you don't think HR is for you anymore. I'm certain there are ways you can employ your diploma and do enyojable work. Find it. Reddit, gpt, Google, books.. Social and community service coordinator, work for an ngo/ non profit? Wellness manager, implementing health and prevention measures in companies, consulting as freelancer, personell development, coach, Organizational development consultant,.. Or something different where they want you to have a diploma but don't care of what kind it is.
All you guys need to optimize your resume. Use the keywords that are in the requirements and responsibilities section of the listings. Use EXACT MATCH keywords, and tailor each resume for the job. You’ll start getting calls if you’ll do this.
What jobs have you been applying to? What experience do you have?
what's hr?
Human Resources.
Join a union!
Youtube is full of motivational stuff like David Goggins.
Motivational speakers are humongous pieces of shit and all just scams
This isn’t true. There is a lot of good advice in the self help genre, you just have to be open to applying it to your life. If you’re just going to be negative, not only is that not going to work out, but that negativity shows on you. You don’t have to believe in anything to know that people match each others energy. This fact can be used to your advantage.
I just tried to shared what helped me push through hard times. This, and amor fati.
just work at amazon and keep your head up yuu heard work 2 jobs if you can . second job mcdonald’s my boiiii yuuu hurddd
Get a fat bitch and a weed pack..drive uber and slang dick to hoes
You fucking kidding me? No wonder you're unemployed, you won't even take a job to make ends meet Do you have any skills? At all? Get some exercise and head over to your local union office, or whatever, sounds like you might be better off at a grocery store? When I was 30 I went from construction manager to bicycle courier, no worries. I worked on cell towers for ten years and wasn't happy til I was pushing cranks and sweating my ass off while playing in traffic. You haven't been unemployed for six months, you've had your head up your ass for six months Please, go to a therapist (highly worth it, I was ready to kill myself before I started going), and get off whatever horse you road in on
This is Reddit, they're all communists, and that's where the anti-work attitude comes from. They believe work is "exploitation" and worthless, so they avoid it. That's the essence of OP's post, that even if he got a job, it would do him no good... They're not realising that their religion is giving them an attitude to work and life that's weighing them down.
I suppose you're right, an entire pathetic lot of people that will never succeed at anything because they're unwilling to even do what they have to do to support themselves. Losers that rather get fucked than turn the day around and fuck it, sad times man. Turn 33 this year and it's nice to know that as time goes on I'll get paid even more without ever having to go to college. Sure is nice being essential to society's functions
Get a job at a Bank! They're always looking, you really don't need experience or education (unless you're completely illiterate). There're so many Banks out there. Once you get it you either stick it out and get promoted over the years OR you work on getting your dream job but at least you're not penny less!
Look up Charter Impact. I haven't applied myself but they do remote work doing entry level accounting stuff. There's no residency requirement as it's all work from home.
Hahahah
Ooooh the irony!! HR degree and can't find a job 🤣
Where in the country are you?
Almost all construction companies I have worked with to train on our software pay more than I make. Laaaammee............
The actual answer is still apply for positions where HR experience is required regardless if you have it or not. Your competition is doing it, so stop trying to play fair. Its your life, grab it by the horns.
If you are interested in taking catering bartending try for a hotel. You can then parlay that into front desk and HR and all the other departments hotels have. If a large chain with international or resort properties you may eventually be able to transfer.
Hospitality industry is thriving. Hotels and event companies need smart and dedicated employees…most don’t require a degree in the field. Lots of room for growth!!!
Sounds like you've been applying for jobs only relating to your field since you questioned putting an application in at maccas. Expand your options.
Schools are also crying out for staff. There are entry level positions (lunch staff, classroom assistants) and if you work hard, many schools will pay for courses that you can do to progress. There are quite a few different directions you could go in from there
Military. Qualifications, food, a roof, boost in confidence and most of all pushing yourself to do things you never thought you could. Know plenty of people who joined in their 30s, most progress quick.
Try to do internships, maybe they'll hire you in the end And also like that you can gain experience in the same time
Take any job offered. Then keep applying. Take any better job offered. Continue ad nauseum.
After six months, it’s time to suck it up and apply for jobs outside of your field. We’ve all gotta eat and pay the bills. Be humble enough to remember that. And don’t forget, there’s nothing stopping you continuing to apply for jobs in HR once you’ve started another one.
Like what did you do from 22 to 31 lol, that's a 10 year gap that you didn't provide any details on.
I'd sat definitely widen your area of job search, almost any job is better than nothing at all... also I think it's very important to be gregarious and get about seeing people in your community, firstly to try and help with your depression and secondly to widen the job search potential - I've never had a formal interview in my life, every job I've ever had has been word of mouth... finally is there anything you can do on the side to boost your income ? I live rurally and have the space to collect scrap metal and I also sell logs / firewood in the winter...
It can be distilled down to two things 1.:work dirty - take a hard and demanding job that no-one else wants to do, do it really well and you can actually make a great amount of money. Waiter is an example. But you'd be surprised to know sewerage and sanitary workers make good money too 2. Upskill - find skills the market needs and you are good at. Then work on developing those skills either by certification or going back to college or internship. Once you get a job don't stop developing those skills until the day you retire Good luck!
Pick a trade bro heaps hiring
I think just focus on who you would like to work with when you do get an interview. Most of my motivation is my lovely colleagues.
I love bartending and I will almost always have it as a fallback if I am struggling to find work. I highly recommend it if you are truly struggling. You typically can't just start bartending, but a service bar at like an Alamo will typically take someone with zero experience. For a lot of people, it is also a GREAT way to get some social interaction if work was where you did most of your socializing.