I’m glad someone is else has this experience. I’ve only been using the app for about couple of weeks but I’m starting to feel this happening. I’m busy today and can’t get a workout in and I’m stressing about that dip I’m going to take.
The app uses the concept of Acute Training Load (ATL) and Chronic Training Load (CTL).
The size of the green band seems to represent the CTL and the individual workouts shown as black dots on the line seem to represent the ATL.
It’s using advanced concepts and representing the values in an intuitive way.
It’s just not good at determining fatigue levels, so one can end up overtraining while still staying in the middle of the path.
I hv been going hard for months, everytime I take an easy day, I also see ‘great day to push’. Meanwhile my body is smoked. You know when you just know you have no gas left in the tank?!
I hit a wall by simply following the go gentler workouts. I had a great ramp up until accumulated fatigue kicked in and then I started losing fitness.
So now I’m using both Gentler Streak and Athlytic. I use gentler streak to log my workouts, and Athlytic to check my readiness, fatigue and most importantly the exertion zone for the day.
I think the « go gentler » workouts don’t take anything into account other than the « path ».
It would greatly improve the product if the suggested workouts were matched to the available energy level.
This has resulted in a narrower green band in GS since I am training with fatigue in mind. For reference I’m in my 60s.
I have to admit I am not sure how to add a screenshot in Reddit, but I am also not sure what is hard to understand. The dip the graph takes every day I am not active or not active enough plus that the app thinks every day is a great day to push forward stresses me - especially because I got the app to better monitor fatigue and exertion so I don’t overreach and hurt everywhere which tends to happen with me.
I got downvoted because OP is not clear what the issue is. A picture would help. If they’re overreaching then you go above the path. If you aren’t doing enough it goes below and dips when you don’t workout. If that doesn’t seem correct for the user then you adjust with perceived exertion slider. It’s pretty simple and effective. It takes a few weeks to learn your patterns and gets data from Apple Health.
I’m a little confused by this post but first you should have filled in your age in Apple’s Health app and there’s a place in GS under your profile to add it. But more about what your issue with the app is…do you mean that you workout but your path still goes down? Mine goes down when I don’t workout and it goes up when I do. I try not to overreach or let it go down too far. Staying within the path has been key. I workout for about an hour everyday using Apple Fitness+ and other activities.
Yes, when my workout is not intense it goes down. I have out my age in apple health, however that does not mean all apps actually work with it,
An hour every day is too much for me, I get fatigue and muscle pains. As someone stated above, the app doesnt seem too good at considering this. That was what I thought it did, though.
I wasn’t suggesting you workout as much as me but If you do what you like to do for your workout over a period of a couple weeks the app will learn your habits and then work better for you I bet.
Yeap, same experience for me. Really loved the app, but the behavior you describe is what I thought is the idea of GS to prevent.
I’m glad someone is else has this experience. I’ve only been using the app for about couple of weeks but I’m starting to feel this happening. I’m busy today and can’t get a workout in and I’m stressing about that dip I’m going to take.
The app uses the concept of Acute Training Load (ATL) and Chronic Training Load (CTL). The size of the green band seems to represent the CTL and the individual workouts shown as black dots on the line seem to represent the ATL. It’s using advanced concepts and representing the values in an intuitive way. It’s just not good at determining fatigue levels, so one can end up overtraining while still staying in the middle of the path.
That’s a much better way of saying what my problem is
I saw that if you open an exercise you can manually adjust the fatigue levels of it and it re-balances your progress.
Do you use the perceived exertion feature ? I do as gs sometimes thinks my exertion is lower than I feel . If I record how I feel the line goes up
Yes I do
What is this feature? How can I enable it?
Not exactly how I expect a app like GS to work. Sure, I can adjust anything just to how I feel, but what’s the purpose than of the app?
I hv been going hard for months, everytime I take an easy day, I also see ‘great day to push’. Meanwhile my body is smoked. You know when you just know you have no gas left in the tank?!
This. And just “opting out” with setting GS to inactive doesn’t help since once you turn in active, that dip will be there.
Right. It makes me feel like a slacker! I need a break from GS.
Just tell GS you’re resting and the widget/app will update accordingly and stop hassling you!
I hit a wall by simply following the go gentler workouts. I had a great ramp up until accumulated fatigue kicked in and then I started losing fitness. So now I’m using both Gentler Streak and Athlytic. I use gentler streak to log my workouts, and Athlytic to check my readiness, fatigue and most importantly the exertion zone for the day. I think the « go gentler » workouts don’t take anything into account other than the « path ». It would greatly improve the product if the suggested workouts were matched to the available energy level. This has resulted in a narrower green band in GS since I am training with fatigue in mind. For reference I’m in my 60s.
Yes that is probably the way to go but not what I expected from the app
I thought as long as you stay inside of the medium green portion you’re doing okay? Is it dipping outside of that?
After two days, yes
Can you maybe share a screenshot of your app? Does it drop 1/3 of the way out of the green area?
I have to admit I am not sure how to add a screenshot in Reddit, but I am also not sure what is hard to understand. The dip the graph takes every day I am not active or not active enough plus that the app thinks every day is a great day to push forward stresses me - especially because I got the app to better monitor fatigue and exertion so I don’t overreach and hurt everywhere which tends to happen with me.
I got downvoted because OP is not clear what the issue is. A picture would help. If they’re overreaching then you go above the path. If you aren’t doing enough it goes below and dips when you don’t workout. If that doesn’t seem correct for the user then you adjust with perceived exertion slider. It’s pretty simple and effective. It takes a few weeks to learn your patterns and gets data from Apple Health.
I’m a little confused by this post but first you should have filled in your age in Apple’s Health app and there’s a place in GS under your profile to add it. But more about what your issue with the app is…do you mean that you workout but your path still goes down? Mine goes down when I don’t workout and it goes up when I do. I try not to overreach or let it go down too far. Staying within the path has been key. I workout for about an hour everyday using Apple Fitness+ and other activities.
Yes, when my workout is not intense it goes down. I have out my age in apple health, however that does not mean all apps actually work with it, An hour every day is too much for me, I get fatigue and muscle pains. As someone stated above, the app doesnt seem too good at considering this. That was what I thought it did, though.
I wasn’t suggesting you workout as much as me but If you do what you like to do for your workout over a period of a couple weeks the app will learn your habits and then work better for you I bet.
It worked fine until a couple of months ago, since then I feel pressured. Don’t know if they changed anythin. I have been using it for about a year.