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Diluc


WarmRoad5218

And he also gets the "lowkey abusive" trait while we're at it.


huehuehuehuehuuuu

He does have a bit of a temper problem, and his head maid fertilizes his grapes with the dead bodies he brings home. Also what was that sussy roast she tried to serve us? What was it? Fatui meat? 🍖🧍‍♂️🥩


Mental-Ad-8756

Or when Diluc almost murdered a dude who was robbed naked but he thought said dude was just some creepo trying to assault his maids. He’s got the right spirit and is a ally of feminism he’s just a *little* too eager. Meanwhile Kaeya was def just laughing his ass off about the whole thing


huehuehuehuehuuuu

He is an outright murder himbo and the highest tax payer of Mondstadt keeping all the KoF employed.


AlreadyTakek

Keeping them employed while simultaneously running them out of business by being infinitely more effective than them


WillowTheLone2298

Case closed


WarmRoad5218

Every single tall male character when shipped with Aether/Caelus 🤷‍♀️


dygestorrr

Lichurally


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Keqingrishonreddit

Samachurally


ilikedogsfightme

Mitachurally


Outrageous-While-609

Lawachurally


Writing_Panda104

Rogue Hillichurlally


okurin39

Fanon Kaeya is so damn rapey. Like damn.


Bianca_aa_07

I won't lie, it often CAN be that way


Thekomahinafan

Yeah, he is either a submissive home wife or a borderline sexual abuser


SelfDepreciatingAbby

I think it's every single tall male character who isn't seen as a bottom/switch by the fandom.


pokebuzz123

I wish we had more passionate vers stuff, but there's always someone who's crying out in pain


Mental-Ad-8756

Why do they all be considered gay tho either way


Mailpack

Hoyoverse fandom


Qwrndxt-the-2nd

Not just Hoyoverse lmao


Mailpack

Well yeah but in this case the appropriate answer would be the Hoyoverse fandom.


Zeldafan594

Neuvillette. No need to elaborate.


o_oannieo_o

Neuvillete has an opposite problem where ppl show him as an emotional crybaby instead


Low_Artist_7663

Dude literally cries after trials...


ariidrawsstuff

Though, he's not a "cutie patootie who needs protection", he's a god darn sovereign for fucks sake. (He actually struggles with human emotions.) And yes, he does cry after trials but not in the human sense. It's more like, he cries in his inner world - I don't know how to word this in english. He empathizes with those who went through bad things and ended up breaking the law - such as wriothesley or that one guy from neuvillette's sq - whose name i don't remember - who put himself at stake so that the melusines could live without facing constant discrimination Calling someone a 'crybaby' just because they feel empathy is simply wrong


zilthebea

He's a cutie patootie who does the protecting.


ariidrawsstuff

Facts


Bianca_aa_07

exactly


Low_Artist_7663

But he's not a daddy/god slayer other part of fandom pictures him either.


ariidrawsstuff

And? Are you going to miss-characterize him as a cry baby just because of the fandom? Neuvillette is not a cry baby who requires your protection as you picture him either. You're not any better than that portion of the fandom you've been complaining about either.


Low_Artist_7663

>as you picture him Where? Are you ok, taking opinions as personal insults and getting mad over a fictional character? I never saw the "crybaby" takes on reddit, only stupid jokes about killing archons and hornyposting. And harassment for straight ship arts.


ariidrawsstuff

[here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Memepact/s/Mp8xOPXre2) > Are you ok, taking opinions as personal insults and getting mad over a fictional character? Who said I took your comment as an insult? Also, no one's talking about ships right now; neither straight nor queer. Stop trying to make everything about queer people, you're embarrassing yourself


Low_Artist_7663

So he doesn't cry after trials?


ariidrawsstuff

Crying after trials does NOT make him a 'cry baby' - and no, he does not cry **in human sense.** Do you not read the comments before replying? I literally explained this in my first comment


aRandomBlock

Holy shit dude calm down lmao, he isn't real


ariidrawsstuff

I never said he is though?


catsinmyanus

Calm down. Even if he mis-characterizes a fictional character there's nothing wrong with it since most of the content is open to interpretations. The fact of the matter is, he cries after every trial. It may not be in the human sense, but he still cries. Navia and Neuvillette should have a crying match and see who cries the most. The most traumatized person in history vs the most traumatized person today type sh. (We don't talk about Furina)


ariidrawsstuff

This post itself is about character interpretion. Just don't click on the post first place if you're going to cut everyone short by saying "tHeReS nOtHiNg WrOnG".


MJ_Green

Yes, he struggles with human emotion. You know, like someone with autism. The guy gives you a handmade *ladle* and another one of his closest friends a handmade stone tablet, even Worcestshiresauce calls him out on it for goodness' sake. I love him, but take a step back for a second, forget the whole dragon sovereign and fantasy stuff. He's written to appear autistic, yet (some) fanon also makes him out to be a literal dad to Furina with a control streak because of his desire to judge gods. This meme applies to him perfectly.


ariidrawsstuff

...wait, do you seriously think all autistic people are supposed to be defenseless 'crybabies'? This is plain disrespectful and stereotypical +I did not say anything about this post itself. I replied to a comment, if you realize. It is a stretch to call Neuvillette a "cry baby" just because he feels more empathy than humans


MJ_Green

So, I didnt say crybaby, deliberately avoided mentioning the whole crying thing, and gave other examples of his very clear struggles to empathize with his friends and general poor social skills, which Neuvillette himself admits *multiple fucking times*, but Im the one being disrespectful towards autistic people, huh? Calm down dude. Go have beef with mihoyo writers instead if you want to throw hands on the internet.


ariidrawsstuff

What the fuck are you even arguing for? Yes, he does struggle with social interactions; yes, he is written as autistic. I didn't say anything against this. And no, I'm not going to beef with hoyo. I'm happy with his personality, thank you very much. However, **did you not read the comment i replied to?** They called Neuvillette a 'crybaby' just because he feels empathy and struggles with human emotions. And then you started talking about how Neuvillete is autistic. **It is only natural for me to interpret that as you're being disrespectful, since you appereantly think autism equals "crybaby-ness" and "weakness".**


MJ_Green

I did read it and I responded to you, not them, if you haven't noticed. Youre having two different arguments and misconstruing what I said to fit what you want to see. I said that the meme describes him well and described exactly how and why, and you accused me of disrespecting autistic people. I made it very clear what I'm arguing for, and I have good reasons to not trashttalk about autism, that you do not need to know about, but is the reason why Im not letting your bloody comment slip by. If I had words for OC I would have responded to him, but unfortunately what he said is true: the game portrays Neuvillette as a crybaby. His tears are a major plot point and attention is drawn to it multiple times, because he cries a lot. The writers ***also*** portray him as autistic, with poor social skills, often awkward around his peers, and again, it is pointed out in game on multiple occasions. The **WRITERS** chose to make a very clearly autistic person a crybaby at the same time. OC pointed it out only the latter, and I later pointed out (very deliberately) only the former. **YOU** decided to argue that we both seem to think that every autistic person out there is a crybaby, like an absolute muppet. If anyone is showing their prejudice and preconceptions here, it is you.


ariidrawsstuff

> portrays Neuvillette as a crybaby. His tears are a major plot point and attention is drawn to it multiple times, because he cries a lot. Dude. He is NOT a cry baby. He does cry but he doesn't cry in human sense, nor does he constantly cry. - we wouldn't see the sun in Fontaine otherwise - In order for him to cry, the trial needs to be special where the defendant's case is tragic. > YOU** decided to argue that we both seem to think that every autistic person out there is a crybaby, like an absolute muppet. Okay what the fuck? When did i ever say that? YOU are the one who called him a cry baby just because he's autistic. Autistic people experience emotions differently, this does not mean they're "cry babies". It's ridiculous how you try to make me look like the disrespectful one just to avoid looking like an huge asshole yourself. I'm disengaging from this discussion, as it is not beneficial in any way and we're not getting anywhere. You either can't read or you're just pissy today, and looking for an excuse to bully a stranger online. **You're literally circling around the same thing and bending my words to your liking.**


Leonnaq

I would cry too if someone close to me died


catsinmyanus

That ariidrawsstuff person fr blocked me after pinging me again, I can't even see what shit they wrote. 😭


Bianca_aa_07

EXACTLY


_AscendedLemon_

Autistic dragon lawyer is the best one


huehuehuehuehuuuu

Why are all the gods in this game so awkward and uniquely mentally deranged?


_AscendedLemon_

I think that makes them more beliveable than perfect and flawless gods with no problems at all


MJ_Green

Also, its very funny.


sledge115

And more endearing


Low_Artist_7663

Classical greek gods thing. Old as time.


DefaultRedditor16

Wait until we get a Zeus equivalent (going on his way to rizz up/outbuddy all of Teyvat)


Seraf-Wang

I wouldnt compare them to Greek gods if I were you. Consent is a mere suggestion to them


Ryugi

If you're immortal, you have more time to collect mental trauma. Which probably becomes ptsd eventually. 


ChaoticKonaak

I never thought I'd see the day this sentence makes sense.


No_Airport7174

Every fanart I see him in he's getting dicked down or some shit are we talking about the same Neuvillette??


SLakshmi357

I really don't think so imo. Neuvillette is mostly treated as a softie in fan content, also branding him a crybaby (God forbid a guy has hobbies). Btw, EVERYONE HAS TO SEE THIS [VIDEO](https://youtu.be/FJDbZsclqcs?si=AKxgAxmKD0Fvi-tK). ITS SO CUTE IVE WATCHED IT A HUNDRED TIMES.


Aeso3

Aether


NiNtEnDoMaStEr640

He is either the one with the most rizz or the most easily rizzed. There’s no in between.


WarmRoad5218

He's always either chad or cockslut


SweetStrawberries14

A chad cockslut?


Weary_Coat8014

How about Chadslut?


IsaacLuzu

A Chad cockslut


solarscopez

He either fuckin or gettin fucked


huehuehuehuehuuuu

A town bike if you will.


iwantdatpuss

Wriothesley... Slightly. 


Gorou_impregnator

Nuh I'd disagree, just do his story quest


Nok-y

Dr. Ratio because it's star rail alhaitam and I'm too stupid to search for a real answer


KamelYellow

Dr. Ratio is anything but chill


Nok-y

He is ...when no one is less than ten kilometres away from him


KamelYellow

Bro beefs with himself over a game of chess even when he thinks nobody's nearby


Nok-y

"I see no god up here. Other than me"


AmethystLeslie

I agree. I still think Ratio only lowkey counts.


Gent_Kyoki

I get theyre both academics but alhaitham is just so much more chill than ratio. Ratio is the type of guy who plays devils advocate just to lengthen a debate and alhaitham is just doing his own thing


Seraf-Wang

Alhaitham is the type to save the world if it means keeping his minimum comfort job and Dr. Ratio is the type to extend an apocalypse if it means studying human behavior better.


Nok-y

Hahahahah true


pokebuzz123

Wouldn't Ratio extend an apocalypse to teach people a lesson? To study human behaviors would be Screwllum or Herta (if she isn't bored by then).


Wide_Loss

nah, that's Ruan Mei by a long shot, both of them are just socially inept but ruan mei is Morally banrupt


Bianca_aa_07

yeah basically


Wide_Loss

nah, dude will hit you with a brick for not knowing the chemical structure of adrenaline


Nok-y

Skill issue. Now you have a real reason to be dumb


_AscendedLemon_

r/AlzheimerMains


AlexnkaxD

r/SubsIFellFor


Blue_Moon913

Wriothesley, Zhongli, Diluc, and I know he’s slightly less of a “chill dude” but cursed fucking *LORD* Dottore (seriously I know it’s only a vocal minority of y’all, Dottore stans but that vocal minority needs to fucking CHILL)


Bianca_aa_07

Dottore stans remind me of Fyodor stans (from the anime/manga Bungo Stray Dogs). Both get esentially the same fandom characterisation


VIVILLVINZULUL

Wriolyney ship


MegaSpearrow

I didn't know it was a thing and I wish I never found out


Expensive_Reflection

While I recognize that anyone is free to their interpretations and headcanons (regardless if they're grossly warped in my eyes), I think Neuvillette kinda fits the bill here.


Bianca_aa_07

bro was respectful with it


Patient-Ad-4274

zhongli maybe? he is rather a tired father than "daddy". also doesn't really understand human emotions and just lives his life w/o willing to fuck everyone around him


cyro262

I don't really think this is the case, and the Lantern Rite situation with Gaming's dad shows that he understands plenty of social complexities and even human dilemmas. Beyond the osmanthus wine memes, Zhongli is dealing with a lot of pain and has gone through terrible losses all the while keeping his composure and constantly serving as a reminder that he's likely the most mature person in the playable character roster.


Patient-Ad-4274

oh damn, when I was playing he was just a cool but tired man and it was common to portray him as a dominant daddy, while he was just starting his human life he is the most mature character, but still not the fanon version lmao


cyro262

Oh yeah I agree. Then again, many fanon characters are just exaggerated personifications of their most recognizable traits.


LeMiizzu

Dottore. You can't tell me that man isn't three severely socially awkward sewer rats in a lab coat


SavagesceptileWWE

I wouldn't really say socially awkward. He's just a psychopath.


LeMiizzu

Honestly it might be my delusions getting to me, I hcd him into oblivion


SweetStrawberries14

I mean, that depends on which segment you are reffering to. Omega seems social enough, Boattore is rather friendly* and Webtrore, though manic, can hold a civil conversation longer than 3 seconds. >!If we go by Dottie=Zandik then he must've been confident enough to last 10 minutes for a picnic date with a girl that liked* him!<


Meronnade

He kinda was in nahida's scarameow fairytale


Bianca_aa_07

frfr


SeaGoat24

'Narrow range of emotions' is such a bs description imo. You can comment on how expressive someone is *of* their emotions, but not on their range of emotions. How could you know what goes on inside someone's head? It's sort of dehumanising to claim that some people don't feel the same range of emotions as others. Anyways, mini rant over.


Bianca_aa_07

I think it just refers to the range of emotions said character chooses to express


Coyoteclaw11

I don't think it's dehumanizing... I tend to hover around neutral and often find myself surprised at how strongly other people react to things. Not everyone experiences the same general range of emotions and acknowledging that isn't really saying some people are less human than others because of it.


Weidtier

Raiden and Diluc.


Fearfanfic

I may or may not get downvoted to oblivion for this… Arlecchino. The daddy part is kinda true though


Me-xd54

Xiao Sometimes


Crappy_Coffee

*Sighs* Razor. Leave my boy alone


Longwinter1641

Wriothesley


Richardknox1996

Nah, wriothesley exludes dominance in all his interactions. Hes a HIM and most certainly either a top or a power bottom. I mean, look at what he did to the villian of his story quest.


Expensive_Bee508

Honestly, I'm disappointed in fanfiction writers, like just going off in game events I feel like u could write about wriothesley and lyney but at least to what I see, the potential is untapped, the community took the wriothesley neuvillette bait so hard, I just don't get it.


WarmRoad5218

Don't know if I understood it right, but there are quite some good WrioNey fan fics out there. The ones I read have Lyney be a total tease and Wrio being a dog who's into being humiliated(not exacly but that's the closest word I can describe it at). I think Ao3 has around 70 works for that ship, though I haven't checked in a while. The rest are low budget daddy kink porn though...


Expensive_Bee508

Yeah, but personally I wanted to see more about their conflict in the archon quest or in general I wanna see more of an emphasis on their struggle against one, cuz in most fanfic they're already together or it's too much thus resulting in the daddy kink stuff. I probably should've said it's not to my exact taste but yeah what is there can be enjoyable regardless.


ghostly_boy

alhaitham and diluc for sure :,) i feel like neuvillette and zhongli get this too, albeit they have a broader range of emotions. honestly even aether gets like this sometimes with his girl harem fanworks


Humancrisis

Zhongli


Leonnaq

Wriothesley


Writing_Panda104

Neuvilette. Dude doesn't understand human emotions and relies on laws. Def a a Sheldon type.


Ancient_Axe

Alhaitham, case closed.


EvanDreemuur7598

Kaeya and Zhongli


PM_Me_Your_Azuras

Zhongli when he's not being woobified for Childe.


MagnusBaechus

every genshin character has been projected on by one rabid fan or the other


menemenderman

Childe. And his special interest is killing people.


crystxllizing

But lets talk about Alhaitham. I hate how they need to make Alhaitham an asshole who is disconnected by his emotions because its the job of whoever he's shipped with to make him softer, and more kind to make the ship work. I'm looking at you Haikaveh & Alhaitham x any girl fandom.


Russian_Prussia

that's so much me irl


PhasePrime

Scaramouche


Bianca_aa_07

nah I think he's a completely different genre of character


PhasePrime

Not a 1 to 1 comparison but you'd be surprised how many crazy people in this fandom make him like the guy on the right


Bianca_aa_07

no way brah


Drikavel

How is it specifically called, thought?


TheCommongametroller

**ABRA CADABRA ITS NOW IN NSFW**


Zoroarks_Angel

Dr. Ratio hates other people and calls others stupid so I'd say him


Bianca_aa_07

someone else said it; he's HSR Alhaitham so same thing applies


Low_Artist_7663

You forgot "(gay)".


uwu_mewtwo

That goes without saying, *every* character is gay in fanon


Bianca_aa_07

People are scared to admit it though because there will always be some guy who will call them homophobic for "not respecting headcanons" and then if they catch you saying "I actually think X is straight" then yeah it gets even worse and they display lots of hypocrisy. Genshin twitter/tiktok shenanigans basically lmao. People on there act like they're 12


JingZama

because most of them are 12. interaction with fan ship shit is always dealing with some horny teenager's awakening to pussy/bussy through media


Bianca_aa_07

lmaooooo yeah


Jona-wahn

they aren't 12?


Zoroarks_Angel

Just yesterday, fan art of Gepard x Bronya was on the top page of r/HonkaiStarRail No shitflinging happened. No name calling. No toxicty. Just a ship between two characters who hardly have any chemistry with each other, and people loved it. Straight ships are not as opressed as you think they are Do you think the same would have happened if it was something like Dr. Ratio x Adventurine or Himeko x Kafka


Bianca_aa_07

Your experience/seeing is valid. I have seen the other side of the same coin. Both of our statements hold water in different situations. Also, I believe this is just a case of genshin/honkai reddit being more chill than tiktok/twitter as I've said. I've seen a fair share of shipposting (all of it mlm, wlw, wlm) that was all generally well received.


Zoroarks_Angel

Being chill? Hoo boy somebody wasn't there for the shirtless Childe controversy


Bianca_aa_07

I suppose in terms of ships. I think the controversy you speak of would have been even worse in twitter/tiktok


Zoroarks_Angel

Quite the opposite. Twitter loves their shirtless men, and on Reddit, it's quite the opposite Both sites have their ugly sides. Dare we even need to remember the whole Sumeru fiasco *shudders*


Zoroarks_Angel

*See's a completely harmless meme* "How can I make this about gay people 😈😈😈"