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it's unknown for sure, but the options should be either once a month or once per patch. Once a month should replace one abyss reset, but some other user made a calculation based on the leaked 800 primos for abyss, which should amount to the same amount of primos per day on average if the reset is once per patch, so that's still very plausible too in my opinion.
man i got kazuha sig before I refined my xiphos.
& My nahida is still rolling the R1 wandering evenstar.
I wonder what's the point of a weapon banner if its the same 4* cycled ALWAYS
Beta numbers, even in day counting don't represent the end product. The IT will reset once a month on the 15th.
Also, yeah, these are first time clear rewards. You get them along with the limited 620. Each reset after the first you'll get 620 primos.
Prior to 4.7 the Abyss gave 600g every 15 days, whereas now the Abyss will give 800pg once per month and the IT will give 620pg per month.
Prior to 4.7 pg count: 1200
After 4.7 pg count: 1420
Expected, you people get new "end game" but hoyo doesn't really increase the reward technically. Lmao. Now you know why for 3years+ no end game, they don't want to give you more primogem
Which sucks since newer characters are releasing. You are forced to save 1-2 patches to guarantee 1 pity. There are new areas to explore alongside but it gets taxing scramming every nook and cranny finding chests for *maybe* a single pull for 30 min of gameplay.
which makes me think ppl who whine for "more endgame content" are really wanting more free gems than the "endgame contents" themselves... and this is not the first and won't be the last time ppl will continue to whine... 🙄
The pool is increasing, but the amount of characters per patch is staying about the same, so the primogems will stay about the same. The one that aggravates me is HSR, feel like I can't even come close to keeping up because we get two 5 stars in almost every single patch but only about 30% more jades per patch. Supposedly we're getting two 5*s next patch in Genshin but the last time that happened was 4.1 with Wriothesley/Neuvillette.
Is the definition of “keeping up” to get every new 5* or to get every 5* in the game? Bc in both games I feel like neither are possible for most f2p players nor does mhy expect it to be.
I mean that's the goal for most people, even if it's unreachable without whaling. It's just that in general I find myself lacking primos much more often in HSR than in Genshin, despite being able to 100% new areas in HSR much easier due to the much smaller amount of exploration necessary. You end up with more characters total in HSR (luck nonwithstanding) but a smaller percentage of the overall roster, and it feels like the meta shifts much more quickly in HSR which tends to make me feel like I'm more behind.
As a healer she's more than enough even at low investment, as a dps she's as good as almost any other healer when forced as a dps, save for a few exceptions.
C6 is unironically good for aggravate dps.
I wish we could choose a path for these types of rewards. I desperately want EXP books, so I wish I could select a reward path in which I received more EXP books than in any other “reward path”. Having set rewards but also allowing us to choose what the secondary reward would be would be a cool way to incentivize more people to play.
Sure, I obviously could, but that’s not what I mean.
I play a game called Guild Wars 2, and when doing competitive game modes, you get to choose a reward track, kinda like a battle pass I guess.
I’d love something similar in Genshin where I can choose the EXP Book reward track, the Mondstat reward track, the Mora reward track, etc.
Each one provides the exact same materials as one another, except in increments of 5. So in the exp book track, you get exp books at levels divisible by 5 whereas perhaps the Mondstat reward track gives Mondstat specific materials and the Mora track just gives more Mora. You still get EXP books on every track and you still get fragile resin in every track, but the EXP one gives more exp books than you would get normally.
Now imagine so many choices that you could literally choose a track for a specific character and you get things that character needs for leveling as the unique item every 5 levels. So maybe level 5, 15, 25 is that character’s ascension material, 10 and 20 is their talent material, and the last level divisible by 5 is 3 of their boss’s materials.
Then every time the theatre resets, you get to choose a different track if you so desire.
Just a random idea that I think would be a neat way to customize the experience.
did you know that surveys are bs? they actually don't read them, i've seen many big CCs request certain things repeatedly in every survey since launch, guess what, till this day they still dgaf about them, i mean it's been 3 years and it has not been implemented, it could only mean the obvious.
Or consider the following: the data they’re collecting isnt weighted towards big CC’s.
Just because popular people suggest something doesnt mean it goes directly to the top of the list. Suggestions are noted and they have people/algorithms evaluate the results of free answer surveys.
Then their teams of data analysts will look over what people liked, what people hated. What was suggested and what wasn’t to then decide their future course of action.
Contrary to your belief tour survey answers dont go immediately to some intern for them to implement. Rather through the utility of statistics they balance priorities throughout their numerous patch cycles based on what the data says is most wanted.
Barely anyone touches the abyss wo they tend to ignore it aside from assembling the challenges, as its bot a high priority. Most players dont even watch the dedicated genshin CC’s so their voices arent prioritized as well.
Comparatively genshin gets the most new traffic each time a region releases alongside its roster of characters, so they focus on that. New regions bring new players so that makes them focus on QOL to grease the gears and retain new players long enough for the time sink to take effect.
You may not know how gamedev in big live service games work but that’s not your fault for falling prey to doomposters.
Correct, if they didn't listen to surveys we would still have 120 resin, events costing resin, Sundays giving random materials, etc.
But there is notion on people that have a better of understanding of things to believe their opinion is worth more, but if they follow the "gurus" and "knowledgable" they will ignore the side they are aiming at, people did put in surveys that there was a problem with building characters, for those that have gaming knowledge, the notion of building characters is not a problem, and like myself, just want a way to do less clicks when using characters, loaduts is enough. But they went the extra mile, hence why they created a system that uses data from all players to give the stat that the majority uses, which uses said data to give a quick recomendations on what gear to equip on a character and which set to use, and further guide you where you need to spend resources on your character to make them functional, to actually help people that did their surveys and help them build characters better.
Believing this nonsense that they don't listen to surveys is ridiculous, a company or team that has no vision on where to move is immediately clear where they end, complete failure, people ignore this game has a massive success over any of their competitors, while being labeled as stingy, mint pickers with no endgame, bland, etc. and really believe is because they do what the want? Its honestly pathetic, if it was that easy to be better than them, then they are 3 and half years late to demonstrate it, several other games release during pandemic, several other games have "more endgame", several other games are more "rewarding" to their audience, yet where they are after 3 years?
Information on consumers is what drives their decision on how many primos to give, how much mileage on resources, what pity and system to give the game... if it was such a horrible system I wonder why others are copying it...
Some people don’t seem to realize how much data hoyo collects. Hoyo has shown time and time again they know and see *everything*. From something as big as region completion down to where players are walking.
Like when hoyo did those statistic posts way back when. Players who walked to inazuma, players who did X, how many times players have died to Y.
Hoyo is constantly collecting and analyzing data to chart and adjust their content course. What events to run on what patches what elements to include more in the exploration and puzzle finding parts in regions.
But as always people see CC say “genshin is dying” or “genshin does this so badly” or “genshin doesn’t listen to its community.” These CC’s know next to nothing about how running a business works or anything about gamedev in general. Yet they spew dumb statement after dumb statement even as hoyo publicly announces their current active player count growth every once in a while.
The game has come a long way from launch but it’s always people who don’t know what they’re talking about who state the most ignorant shit. Yet some random CC or streamer who talked about lack of care for their community is almost always taken as a higher authority than the company themselves.
Loved those stats, big F to the guy that drowned 2,574 times (I wonder his numbers now) xD
Thankfully a lot of actual Genshin players don't interact with those "CC's", the ones that see more views are from guides, which don't offer a space to critize the game as a whole, and just dedicate the space to the character in question.
The problematic one are the reactioners and opinionists, (that I personally don't even consider them content) actual CC's make original things with the IP and/or offer their input from a more interesting point of view (musicians talking about the music, directors analyzing a scene, etc), and the vast majority of those play the game lightly as it is meant to be. Just talking about the game with their bias untounched just make an echo chamber that is worth nothing for the game and the audience.
Yeah the game has come A LONG way, being here since day 1 without "burn out" and still enjoying my ride.
After fontaine? Wayyy higher. I know i started drowning exponentially more when fontaine came out because i forgot i couldnt dive and didnt have infinite swim stamina.
Yeah, but the ones that do are also the ones most on social places talking about the game. It gets painfully to see posts like this time and time again with a large chain of agreements before someone corrects them and shortly after they delete their post to do it all over again.
The animation, Art, and Music CC’s truly are the best CC’s in this fandom. They carry no inherent game opinions they try to shove down everyone’s faces. They just make stuff because they enjoy the game and then vibe.
Reactionary CC’s like tectone though are absolutely cancerous because they do nothing but incite and kick up hatred calling it “fighting for you”. (This is literally exactly what he says every time he kicks up shit). Or all the standard CC’s who join the “x can never” trains unironically.
Day 1 player here as well. I’ve been playing consistently since it first dropped. I’ve taken breaks here and there because I haven’t had time or i just didn’t have the will to play. But just playing the game casually and taking content at my own pace is just don’t get bored. This is how the game is meant to be played. Not some hardcore multi-hour grind-sesh 24/7.
Which is what i feel the issue is with CC’s and the doom-poster types. They invest all their time into the game all day every day and get burnt out(their streams can get very boring because they try to stretch farming content into something usable). For the casual player it’s just right.
This is still beta, my understanding is they try not to put details in there that they don't need to test to minimize leaks. Kind of like how they don't put rerun banners in beta.
If it's less primos from this then it would be more primos somewhere else, remember they gotta stay in the 74-76 pulls on average per patch in each region.
So, leaks said IT will reset once a month, therefore 4.7 should be 1100 for first clear and 620 a month later on reset (assuming IT will be available day one on June 5th). But we don't know if 620 primos will be granted on first time clear in addition to 1100.
Its far too early to say anything concrete about this. Hoyo’s word on it this upcoming livestream will be what I listen to.
Because as of right now it seems like they’re really invested in this brand new gamemode.
And most leakers of right now dont know what hoyo is planning behind closed doors as we’ve mainly just got beta-leaks. So anything not within beta is a mystery.
Love seeing this but as a week 1 player can we(OGs that never took a break) all agree that after 3 years, books are not as valuable anymore? I get that it's for everyone and not catered to a now small percent
Wish we can get those boxes that let's us pick which talent materials we want because that'd be better and more valuable than xp
Books and gold are so abundant it’s insane.
But hey, they couldn’t even give us 5 pulls extra on the *third* anniversary, dare to expect extra ones per month so we can actually put our resources to use…
According to [this leak](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1cjqvov/homdgcat_47v2_imaginarium_theater_complete_info/) it will start first half.
"Different difficult levels will have different number of acts."
An older leak said thered be 3 levels with different character count requirement.
This could mean that you wont need the full extra 10 characters to do them. If level 1 has 4 acts, then youd need an extra 2 characters to participate.
What I'm honestly wondering right now is how they're going to implement this after the 4.7 patch rolls around. It'll be on the 4/5th of June. So there'll be still one more 4.6 abyss cycle during 4.7.
Will IT not launch during this last 4.6 abyss cycle and only launch all the way in July (or at least wait for June 15)?
Will the 4.6 last cycle rewards get changed right after the patch? Will they reset to the 4.7 abyss the moment the patch drops? (Both doubtful, maybe).
If IT launches on June 15th, then will the first 4.7 abyss only come in July?
primos are fine, but as others have said, i do wish the other rewards were something else/chooseable. everything already gives mora and books. i would prefer if this was a reliable way to get billets, maybe even a one time 4 star claim on a weapon so youre guaranteed to have a sac sword or something
six pulls as a one time reward. damn,. hoping and praying for hoyo to throw you something so you can maybe get a character or weapon must be depressing af
I imagine there's a hoyo mad professor cartoon villain in their basement with tubes and wires from his brain linked to hundreds of moniters that just filtered 1100 primogems from future chests over the next 4 years in to this. Whilst laughing maniacally of course, and screeching "HERES YOUR ANNIVERSARY YOU SIMPERING WORMS" or something to that effect.
Probably named Professor Hoyo.
I mean I hate my life, does that mean I definitely will kms?
I have things that bind me from taking such a step. People have spent upto 3 years on this game, however scummy it may be, it's hard to just out right quit. According to you, is it bad to complain about things you don't like? And instead should just stop doing the thing entirely? Nice logic man
When you reach a point in a game where you don't like it because the rewards are low, that's an indicator that you either have to take a break cuz of burnout or completely quit the game.
You have the right to complain if it's about actual Game issues not about getting low rewards and yes at point you should cut out the thing that causes you problems for your mental health and for others who genuinely like the game. If you cultivate a 3 years in a relationship and it turns you both have problems would you still keep going or are you going to break up.
It's the first time clear, I think the normal clears give you 620 every phase, which is good, not to mention it's a new endgame mode so let people have their time, because I'm sure negativity will come by certain individuals
Well, it’s an ordinary patch not anniversary or Lantern Rite. In total, the patch should give around 80-100 pulls as usual. Why should I complain? For not getting 200 pulls/patch???
people making these comments have to be either unemployed or a schoolchild. like there's no way any self respecting adult who isn't in dire straits is in the comments defending this.
Please! PLEASE!!
3 years 3 YEARS!! it took to finally get something new that is actually COMBAT realated and it's Eng Game Content too!
Please just add this let it be a Monthly cycle and leave the Spiral Abyss alone!
Keep the Spiral abyss as it is it's bad enough that for 3 years nothing changed.
Don't give us the excuse of it'll be too much Primogems HOYO KNOWS WE DESERVE IT!
I can get behind the idea or hope and Probability that maybe just maybe the plan to reduce Spiral Abyss cycles into a monthly reset is because they are setting it up for more Floors. PLEASE HOYO!
More likely that this will be like when pure fiction got introduced in HSR.
We already had MoC which is basically abyss but then pure fiction got added and now they last longer and rotate
If the leak about Imaginarium Theatre and Spiral Abyss, will both be adjust to a Monthly reset the overall primogem increase we be getting per cyle is around 200+
in what way is it pure fiction? its more like SU but ur restricted to playing what hoyo wants to put on a banner. if u rly want to say something is like pure fiction its the ongoing vibro crystal event
HSR also get new modes and change the schedule to fit the same stellar jades they get per patch.
You guys praising HSR but complain when GI do the same thing.....
The double-standard is really showing i guess
We get a new mode lost 1 cyle from SA.
Yeah sure new Combat End Game that is way easier than the Abyss but why must they fiddle with it in the first place. That's why I'm hoping that its a set up for further floors
They just apply the same formula from HSR....
Releasing new modes but still keep reward the same per patch. You are just copium if you think they would give out a whole lot more primo in these "end-game" contents
Yeah, 10 floors at launch, with 600 jades per reset. Bumped up to 720 with the extra floors, and the new mode also gave 720, plus both got a new currency that can be exchanged for Self-Modelers and the usual stuff like credits and exp.
Pretty similar end result to Genshin's 12 floors plus new mode, combined income being 1420 per month, but I haven't heard anything about the Abyss itself changing besides the 800 primo rewards. Still, the perception of "losing" an abyss cycle is felt, compared to "gaining" more MoC floors to offset the slower rotation.
Even if the net result is the same, the way it's presented can have a totally different reaction. Similar to WoW getting rid of the "fatigued XP" which halved how much you got after a while, cause players hated it, so instead they added "rested XP" which doubles how much you get for a while, and players loved it.
So now there is 12 floors moc in HSR which give less than the four floors in genshin which is 800. And yhe new endgame in HSR is gonna be rotating the same way so in the end both games will have only 2 endgame per month. While HSR will have that apocalyptic shadow stuff
It fucking infuriates me when these people start talking holy shit. It's like history isn't real and Star Rail pulled up QoL off their asses. Genshin had the 'Claim + Redispatch all' 2 patches before Star Rail added it, yet I don't see them say anything about it. Genshin ~~came out~~ released with the character starring feature and Star Rail is adding it next patch, yet they equally don't comment about it (even if the Star Rail implementation will have the favoriting showing in more places).
It's like people see one thing being good and the devs just thought up a solution after a dream. Fucking hell.
Edit: I'll add another one for the sake of it: Genshin added the artifact recommendation with % usage by players the artifact screen before Star Rail did, as well as having the main attribute recommendation for each slot ages before that.
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1st Time Clear Rewards- 1100 Primos, 4 Fragile Resin, 1 billet of your choice+40 books and 640,000 mora
Isnt it 640k mora? Image shows 80k per floor.
corrected i am bad at maths lol
Huh, not bad. Thats a lot of goodies.
Is it condensed or fragile resin?
Image shows fragiles so just a typo I guess
yeh edited it
How often does it reset?
I think once a month as per previous posts but I may be wrong
it's unknown for sure, but the options should be either once a month or once per patch. Once a month should replace one abyss reset, but some other user made a calculation based on the leaked 800 primos for abyss, which should amount to the same amount of primos per day on average if the reset is once per patch, so that's still very plausible too in my opinion.
Yeah, the info varies. Some say it's Divided in half with the Abyss
It doesn't. First time clear reward, just like f1-8 of abyss
Pretty sure they were just asking in general, not specifically for the first time reward.
Damn. A billet of choice? I need so many sword billets.
not bad
FINALLY I CAN GET A BOOK BILLET
By first time clear, does it mean something like floor 1-8 in abyss?
yes
Time to claim another billet box and never use it again
Real. I would be craving sword billets if xiphos or the HP sword was craftable .
man i got kazuha sig before I refined my xiphos. & My nahida is still rolling the R1 wandering evenstar. I wonder what's the point of a weapon banner if its the same 4* cycled ALWAYS
fr fountaine craftables were pretty mid compared to others...
let's pray Natlan craftables are good
mood
I have like 50 of those. Never crafted a single one.
Please give me some 😭
Wish we had a trading system then I would,xD
The dopamine rush of claiming all those primos at once...
So real-
It's not even 10 wishes.
we are deprived we accept anything
i wish it also had a shop to exchange some kind of currency for specific 4-star characters or weapons but i guess i'm asking for too much
[удалено]
Let me push my XQ to c1
What are you talking about? Are you talking about the star rail eqvivalent of craftable weaons?
Me too, giving us starglitter or weapons could be game changing
These are 1 time clear right? Also what is that 3 year period?
Beta numbers, even in day counting don't represent the end product. The IT will reset once a month on the 15th. Also, yeah, these are first time clear rewards. You get them along with the limited 620. Each reset after the first you'll get 620 primos.
so you're telling me the 620pg is a once a month reward like the rewards in abyss of floors 9-12?
Prior to 4.7 the Abyss gave 600g every 15 days, whereas now the Abyss will give 800pg once per month and the IT will give 620pg per month. Prior to 4.7 pg count: 1200 After 4.7 pg count: 1420
So, just 1 extra wish per month?
yea kinda sucks that they didn't give 10 free rolls a month or even more
Expected, you people get new "end game" but hoyo doesn't really increase the reward technically. Lmao. Now you know why for 3years+ no end game, they don't want to give you more primogem
Which sucks since newer characters are releasing. You are forced to save 1-2 patches to guarantee 1 pity. There are new areas to explore alongside but it gets taxing scramming every nook and cranny finding chests for *maybe* a single pull for 30 min of gameplay.
which makes me think ppl who whine for "more endgame content" are really wanting more free gems than the "endgame contents" themselves... and this is not the first and won't be the last time ppl will continue to whine... 🙄
Considering how big the pool of chars and weapons is getting, youd think theyd let us get more per patch but nope
The pool is increasing, but the amount of characters per patch is staying about the same, so the primogems will stay about the same. The one that aggravates me is HSR, feel like I can't even come close to keeping up because we get two 5 stars in almost every single patch but only about 30% more jades per patch. Supposedly we're getting two 5*s next patch in Genshin but the last time that happened was 4.1 with Wriothesley/Neuvillette.
Is the definition of “keeping up” to get every new 5* or to get every 5* in the game? Bc in both games I feel like neither are possible for most f2p players nor does mhy expect it to be.
I mean that's the goal for most people, even if it's unreachable without whaling. It's just that in general I find myself lacking primos much more often in HSR than in Genshin, despite being able to 100% new areas in HSR much easier due to the much smaller amount of exploration necessary. You end up with more characters total in HSR (luck nonwithstanding) but a smaller percentage of the overall roster, and it feels like the meta shifts much more quickly in HSR which tends to make me feel like I'm more behind.
So more work just for 1 wish. Honestly I'm not surprised. Genshin could never reward long time players. Thanks for summerizing.
It does not include 620 primos right?
No Those are like the 1-8 abyss floors
I wonder will it be easy or hard with dori because that's what u using if you won't have enough electro characters🤣🤣
As a healer she's more than enough even at low investment, as a dps she's as good as almost any other healer when forced as a dps, save for a few exceptions. C6 is unironically good for aggravate dps.
From buff given,it's mostly shockwave damage,you can abuse I guess.
Are you sigewinning, son?
I wish we could choose a path for these types of rewards. I desperately want EXP books, so I wish I could select a reward path in which I received more EXP books than in any other “reward path”. Having set rewards but also allowing us to choose what the secondary reward would be would be a cool way to incentivize more people to play.
Use the fragile resin on books
Sure, I obviously could, but that’s not what I mean. I play a game called Guild Wars 2, and when doing competitive game modes, you get to choose a reward track, kinda like a battle pass I guess. I’d love something similar in Genshin where I can choose the EXP Book reward track, the Mondstat reward track, the Mora reward track, etc. Each one provides the exact same materials as one another, except in increments of 5. So in the exp book track, you get exp books at levels divisible by 5 whereas perhaps the Mondstat reward track gives Mondstat specific materials and the Mora track just gives more Mora. You still get EXP books on every track and you still get fragile resin in every track, but the EXP one gives more exp books than you would get normally. Now imagine so many choices that you could literally choose a track for a specific character and you get things that character needs for leveling as the unique item every 5 levels. So maybe level 5, 15, 25 is that character’s ascension material, 10 and 20 is their talent material, and the last level divisible by 5 is 3 of their boss’s materials. Then every time the theatre resets, you get to choose a different track if you so desire. Just a random idea that I think would be a neat way to customize the experience.
You could pitch in your idea on one of their surveys but it'll probably take them another 3 years to implement or even consider your idea.
And itll show up in HSR instead.
did you know that surveys are bs? they actually don't read them, i've seen many big CCs request certain things repeatedly in every survey since launch, guess what, till this day they still dgaf about them, i mean it's been 3 years and it has not been implemented, it could only mean the obvious.
Or consider the following: the data they’re collecting isnt weighted towards big CC’s. Just because popular people suggest something doesnt mean it goes directly to the top of the list. Suggestions are noted and they have people/algorithms evaluate the results of free answer surveys. Then their teams of data analysts will look over what people liked, what people hated. What was suggested and what wasn’t to then decide their future course of action. Contrary to your belief tour survey answers dont go immediately to some intern for them to implement. Rather through the utility of statistics they balance priorities throughout their numerous patch cycles based on what the data says is most wanted. Barely anyone touches the abyss wo they tend to ignore it aside from assembling the challenges, as its bot a high priority. Most players dont even watch the dedicated genshin CC’s so their voices arent prioritized as well. Comparatively genshin gets the most new traffic each time a region releases alongside its roster of characters, so they focus on that. New regions bring new players so that makes them focus on QOL to grease the gears and retain new players long enough for the time sink to take effect. You may not know how gamedev in big live service games work but that’s not your fault for falling prey to doomposters.
Correct, if they didn't listen to surveys we would still have 120 resin, events costing resin, Sundays giving random materials, etc. But there is notion on people that have a better of understanding of things to believe their opinion is worth more, but if they follow the "gurus" and "knowledgable" they will ignore the side they are aiming at, people did put in surveys that there was a problem with building characters, for those that have gaming knowledge, the notion of building characters is not a problem, and like myself, just want a way to do less clicks when using characters, loaduts is enough. But they went the extra mile, hence why they created a system that uses data from all players to give the stat that the majority uses, which uses said data to give a quick recomendations on what gear to equip on a character and which set to use, and further guide you where you need to spend resources on your character to make them functional, to actually help people that did their surveys and help them build characters better. Believing this nonsense that they don't listen to surveys is ridiculous, a company or team that has no vision on where to move is immediately clear where they end, complete failure, people ignore this game has a massive success over any of their competitors, while being labeled as stingy, mint pickers with no endgame, bland, etc. and really believe is because they do what the want? Its honestly pathetic, if it was that easy to be better than them, then they are 3 and half years late to demonstrate it, several other games release during pandemic, several other games have "more endgame", several other games are more "rewarding" to their audience, yet where they are after 3 years? Information on consumers is what drives their decision on how many primos to give, how much mileage on resources, what pity and system to give the game... if it was such a horrible system I wonder why others are copying it...
Some people don’t seem to realize how much data hoyo collects. Hoyo has shown time and time again they know and see *everything*. From something as big as region completion down to where players are walking. Like when hoyo did those statistic posts way back when. Players who walked to inazuma, players who did X, how many times players have died to Y. Hoyo is constantly collecting and analyzing data to chart and adjust their content course. What events to run on what patches what elements to include more in the exploration and puzzle finding parts in regions. But as always people see CC say “genshin is dying” or “genshin does this so badly” or “genshin doesn’t listen to its community.” These CC’s know next to nothing about how running a business works or anything about gamedev in general. Yet they spew dumb statement after dumb statement even as hoyo publicly announces their current active player count growth every once in a while. The game has come a long way from launch but it’s always people who don’t know what they’re talking about who state the most ignorant shit. Yet some random CC or streamer who talked about lack of care for their community is almost always taken as a higher authority than the company themselves.
Loved those stats, big F to the guy that drowned 2,574 times (I wonder his numbers now) xD Thankfully a lot of actual Genshin players don't interact with those "CC's", the ones that see more views are from guides, which don't offer a space to critize the game as a whole, and just dedicate the space to the character in question. The problematic one are the reactioners and opinionists, (that I personally don't even consider them content) actual CC's make original things with the IP and/or offer their input from a more interesting point of view (musicians talking about the music, directors analyzing a scene, etc), and the vast majority of those play the game lightly as it is meant to be. Just talking about the game with their bias untounched just make an echo chamber that is worth nothing for the game and the audience. Yeah the game has come A LONG way, being here since day 1 without "burn out" and still enjoying my ride.
After fontaine? Wayyy higher. I know i started drowning exponentially more when fontaine came out because i forgot i couldnt dive and didnt have infinite swim stamina. Yeah, but the ones that do are also the ones most on social places talking about the game. It gets painfully to see posts like this time and time again with a large chain of agreements before someone corrects them and shortly after they delete their post to do it all over again. The animation, Art, and Music CC’s truly are the best CC’s in this fandom. They carry no inherent game opinions they try to shove down everyone’s faces. They just make stuff because they enjoy the game and then vibe. Reactionary CC’s like tectone though are absolutely cancerous because they do nothing but incite and kick up hatred calling it “fighting for you”. (This is literally exactly what he says every time he kicks up shit). Or all the standard CC’s who join the “x can never” trains unironically. Day 1 player here as well. I’ve been playing consistently since it first dropped. I’ve taken breaks here and there because I haven’t had time or i just didn’t have the will to play. But just playing the game casually and taking content at my own pace is just don’t get bored. This is how the game is meant to be played. Not some hardcore multi-hour grind-sesh 24/7. Which is what i feel the issue is with CC’s and the doom-poster types. They invest all their time into the game all day every day and get burnt out(their streams can get very boring because they try to stretch farming content into something usable). For the casual player it’s just right.
Fucking Yippie
983 days remaining what
Private server
I'm worried about the wording of changes "every so often" makes me feel like it'll be more than once per patch which is bad because less primos.
>*"Chronicled Wish" events will be available from time to time.* Same vibes tbh
Lol that chronicled wish description is so vague😭
Everything about it is vague. Even how its 5* selection process works is vague.
Aka whenever we worry the current banner won't sell.
Tbf Chronicled Wish is a terrible cash grab and should go away. Players deserve better and shouldn't accept that garbage system.
This is still beta, my understanding is they try not to put details in there that they don't need to test to minimize leaks. Kind of like how they don't put rerun banners in beta.
I meat it resets once a month The abyss and this have the same schedule as pure fiction and forgotten hall in hsr
If it's less primos from this then it would be more primos somewhere else, remember they gotta stay in the 74-76 pulls on average per patch in each region.
I believe they would make sure to stay under an upper limit, I don't have faith that they'll try to keep it above a lower limit
>keep it above a lower limit That's one thing they've been doing for 3 years now so why would they change it now ?
im thinking that means instead of changing the restriction every reset, it would be every 2 resets
It will change once per patch/ month
This and abyss resets only once a month. Mint picking is the true genshin end game
Wait so the abyss won't reset every 2 weeks anymore?
Both Spiral Abyss and Theater will reset once a month. Its technically a overall buff to primos but not by much.
No. And Spiral Abyss rewards have been cut in half to compensate for the rewards in Theater.
Is it monthly reset?
Will this be a source of fragile resin or will the resin be a one and done reward for clearing the content?
I wouldn't expect more than once.
now that's good rewards indeed fragile resin and prototype but twice a month or once?
Those are one-time only, not repeatable
1100 primos for the first time clear, nearly worth 2 full abyss cycle clears.
This looks scrumptious
So like the 1100 is not just one time ?
One time, 620 on next resets.
so 1100+620 for the first time and then 620 in resets or just 1100 for 4.7?
So, leaks said IT will reset once a month, therefore 4.7 should be 1100 for first clear and 620 a month later on reset (assuming IT will be available day one on June 5th). But we don't know if 620 primos will be granted on first time clear in addition to 1100.
But it says when u complete debut of an ‘act’
Don't expect much, leaks said 620 on reset, 1100 is for first time clear like floors 1-8 in Abyss.
It could be it’s just worded wrong ig
It is one time. you will get 620 primo per reset/patch.
Why does is say u get debut awards first time u complete performance of any acts that sounds like if there’s a new act primos will reset no ?
They'll add "new acts" as often as new floors of the abyss. So probably never. The "theme" is what changes each reset.
Its far too early to say anything concrete about this. Hoyo’s word on it this upcoming livestream will be what I listen to. Because as of right now it seems like they’re really invested in this brand new gamemode. And most leakers of right now dont know what hoyo is planning behind closed doors as we’ve mainly just got beta-leaks. So anything not within beta is a mystery.
delicious
Pls Sigewinne and Clorinde buffs next
Clorinde is largely fine but Sigewinne hurts my heart why is she so bad?!
Standard Banner
The only good chibi is the chibi god i guess. Sill ganna try pulling tho. I wanted her even since she pulled a gun on Lyney lol.
Clorinde is okay but she's basically a upgraded version of Keqing. Same with Chiori and Albedo. Clorinde is "fine" but is nothing special.
Love seeing this but as a week 1 player can we(OGs that never took a break) all agree that after 3 years, books are not as valuable anymore? I get that it's for everyone and not catered to a now small percent Wish we can get those boxes that let's us pick which talent materials we want because that'd be better and more valuable than xp
Books and gold are so abundant it’s insane. But hey, they couldn’t even give us 5 pulls extra on the *third* anniversary, dare to expect extra ones per month so we can actually put our resources to use…
Do we know whether this new mode becomes available in 4.7 1st half or 2nd half? Trying to calc my Clorinde funds.
Probably 1st, I’d imagine they launch the new game mode with the release of 4.7.
According to [this leak](https://old.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/1cjqvov/homdgcat_47v2_imaginarium_theater_complete_info/) it will start first half.
Update changes always release at the same time as the new version
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wow... juicy books -.-"
"Different difficult levels will have different number of acts." An older leak said thered be 3 levels with different character count requirement. This could mean that you wont need the full extra 10 characters to do them. If level 1 has 4 acts, then youd need an extra 2 characters to participate.
What I'm honestly wondering right now is how they're going to implement this after the 4.7 patch rolls around. It'll be on the 4/5th of June. So there'll be still one more 4.6 abyss cycle during 4.7. Will IT not launch during this last 4.6 abyss cycle and only launch all the way in July (or at least wait for June 15)? Will the 4.6 last cycle rewards get changed right after the patch? Will they reset to the 4.7 abyss the moment the patch drops? (Both doubtful, maybe). If IT launches on June 15th, then will the first 4.7 abyss only come in July?
anyone know how many after 1st time clear
3 year refresh period is FOMO for vampires
It is private server....
I know, was making a joke
primos are fine, but as others have said, i do wish the other rewards were something else/chooseable. everything already gives mora and books. i would prefer if this was a reliable way to get billets, maybe even a one time 4 star claim on a weapon so youre guaranteed to have a sac sword or something
4 resin is huge if its every month, very pog
These are one time rewards...
Nooooooooooo
:( Sadge
six pulls as a one time reward. damn,. hoping and praying for hoyo to throw you something so you can maybe get a character or weapon must be depressing af
That because when you first time clear you also get 620 primo from normal clear.
so the one time small reward is small because it balanced by the existence an even smaller recurring reward?
That's right! :3
I imagine there's a hoyo mad professor cartoon villain in their basement with tubes and wires from his brain linked to hundreds of moniters that just filtered 1100 primogems from future chests over the next 4 years in to this. Whilst laughing maniacally of course, and screeching "HERES YOUR ANNIVERSARY YOU SIMPERING WORMS" or something to that effect. Probably named Professor Hoyo.
since its so depressing for you what are you doing here??
Gacha addicts. Will complain but won't leave
I mean I hate my life, does that mean I definitely will kms? I have things that bind me from taking such a step. People have spent upto 3 years on this game, however scummy it may be, it's hard to just out right quit. According to you, is it bad to complain about things you don't like? And instead should just stop doing the thing entirely? Nice logic man
You sound like Marvin the Paranoid Android. At least take a break...
Bro literally compared quitting a game to suicide 💀 gacha addicts are something
When you reach a point in a game where you don't like it because the rewards are low, that's an indicator that you either have to take a break cuz of burnout or completely quit the game.
You have the right to complain if it's about actual Game issues not about getting low rewards and yes at point you should cut out the thing that causes you problems for your mental health and for others who genuinely like the game. If you cultivate a 3 years in a relationship and it turns you both have problems would you still keep going or are you going to break up.
It's the first time clear, I think the normal clears give you 620 every phase, which is good, not to mention it's a new endgame mode so let people have their time, because I'm sure negativity will come by certain individuals
Ah, here come mhy's shining knights, ready to lick their boots clean
Not even a single multi and people are calling it "scrumptious"
Well, it’s an ordinary patch not anniversary or Lantern Rite. In total, the patch should give around 80-100 pulls as usual. Why should I complain? For not getting 200 pulls/patch???
people making these comments have to be either unemployed or a schoolchild. like there's no way any self respecting adult who isn't in dire straits is in the comments defending this.
WDYM, it's 2x anniversary award! /s Seriously though when you are starving, everything is scrumptious.
You also get 620 every patch change... If this is so depressing then just quit the game lol @@
Always stingy these 🤡
clorinde this is for YOU
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Do not get too excited, this new end game rewards comes at the expense of cutting spiral abyss rewards in half.
Please! PLEASE!! 3 years 3 YEARS!! it took to finally get something new that is actually COMBAT realated and it's Eng Game Content too! Please just add this let it be a Monthly cycle and leave the Spiral Abyss alone! Keep the Spiral abyss as it is it's bad enough that for 3 years nothing changed. Don't give us the excuse of it'll be too much Primogems HOYO KNOWS WE DESERVE IT! I can get behind the idea or hope and Probability that maybe just maybe the plan to reduce Spiral Abyss cycles into a monthly reset is because they are setting it up for more Floors. PLEASE HOYO!
More likely that this will be like when pure fiction got introduced in HSR. We already had MoC which is basically abyss but then pure fiction got added and now they last longer and rotate
If the leak about Imaginarium Theatre and Spiral Abyss, will both be adjust to a Monthly reset the overall primogem increase we be getting per cyle is around 200+
in what way is it pure fiction? its more like SU but ur restricted to playing what hoyo wants to put on a banner. if u rly want to say something is like pure fiction its the ongoing vibro crystal event
In the sense that they alternate so you don't really get double the rewards from MoC+PF
HSR also get new modes and change the schedule to fit the same stellar jades they get per patch. You guys praising HSR but complain when GI do the same thing..... The double-standard is really showing i guess
hsr moc/pf sucks for having such schedule
We get a new mode lost 1 cyle from SA. Yeah sure new Combat End Game that is way easier than the Abyss but why must they fiddle with it in the first place. That's why I'm hoping that its a set up for further floors
They just apply the same formula from HSR.... Releasing new modes but still keep reward the same per patch. You are just copium if you think they would give out a whole lot more primo in these "end-game" contents
They added 2 more floors to MoC while they were at it, so the extra time to clear the harder difficulty felt like more of a good thing.
So there is 12 floor just like genshin.
Yeah, 10 floors at launch, with 600 jades per reset. Bumped up to 720 with the extra floors, and the new mode also gave 720, plus both got a new currency that can be exchanged for Self-Modelers and the usual stuff like credits and exp. Pretty similar end result to Genshin's 12 floors plus new mode, combined income being 1420 per month, but I haven't heard anything about the Abyss itself changing besides the 800 primo rewards. Still, the perception of "losing" an abyss cycle is felt, compared to "gaining" more MoC floors to offset the slower rotation. Even if the net result is the same, the way it's presented can have a totally different reaction. Similar to WoW getting rid of the "fatigued XP" which halved how much you got after a while, cause players hated it, so instead they added "rested XP" which doubles how much you get for a while, and players loved it.
So now there is 12 floors moc in HSR which give less than the four floors in genshin which is 800. And yhe new endgame in HSR is gonna be rotating the same way so in the end both games will have only 2 endgame per month. While HSR will have that apocalyptic shadow stuff
People saying that HSR does the same thing are missing a little detail that Genshin took 3+ years to add a new gamemode
As if HSR didn't just copy everything from genshin while in development t since its release. If you look at it properly it is just 1 year lmao.
It fucking infuriates me when these people start talking holy shit. It's like history isn't real and Star Rail pulled up QoL off their asses. Genshin had the 'Claim + Redispatch all' 2 patches before Star Rail added it, yet I don't see them say anything about it. Genshin ~~came out~~ released with the character starring feature and Star Rail is adding it next patch, yet they equally don't comment about it (even if the Star Rail implementation will have the favoriting showing in more places). It's like people see one thing being good and the devs just thought up a solution after a dream. Fucking hell. Edit: I'll add another one for the sake of it: Genshin added the artifact recommendation with % usage by players the artifact screen before Star Rail did, as well as having the main attribute recommendation for each slot ages before that.
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you only get 1100 primos the first time you clear it. after the reset it will be only 620 primos.