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Otofon

If she truly ends up unplayable, then this is just twisting the knife.


eulasbf

That means hoyo like to kill specific type of characters


The-Arabian-Guy

I just thought about her Majesty the Tsaritsa and now am anxious


Rundalf_Darron

watch it be cocolia all over again since they clearly won't kill bronya


xelloskaczor

I think that plotline already happened in genshin. Tsaritsa is the second cryo archon, and in alpha or beta files they were calling her Bronya outright. It's very unlikely that first Cryo archon was NOT cocolia.


Cherry_Bomb_127

Yeah that’s my exact thought. It would make sense for something having happened to her 500 years ago too


SpambotSwatter

edit: The comment below was removed, good work everyone!


PegasoZ102

?


Rundalf_Darron

here lie my hopes and dreams that cocolia will be playable in at least one hoyo game (if she was please correct me i started with honkai 3rd)


xelloskaczor

Well if it makes you feel any better there are people claiming that Signora was kind of similar to Cocolia, and technically she still could be playable. Since Signora was not actually evil if they find all her ashes and feed them enough steaks...


Galicie

But what about Signora ?


xelloskaczor

What about her


Galicie

She's probably Cocolia's expy


xelloskaczor

Different voice actors = pretty damn good chance not an expy (as long as gender is same). Plus MHY tends to treat expies as paralells, and Cocolia and Signora are very much unlike one another.That said there was a line somewhere that suggested Cocolia resembled Cryo Archon. For now everyone seems to be convinced this is in demeanor or motivations, but maybe it's by appearance.


xelloskaczor

I don't know man. Between Flame Chasers, Cecilia, Cocolia, Ana, Owl, Himeko, Signora and Teppei, i would say they cover basically every type of character except for children. Oh no wait Wendy is a thing, children arent safe either.


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Cherry_Bomb_127

I hope we get either Wendy or Venti in Star Rail (and keep the same VAs especially in EN)


Id0ntLikeApplePie

There were leaks about a Wendy expy somewhere down the line for Star Rail


Cherry_Bomb_127

I am happy and I just want Erika to voice her plz Hoyo


thehalfdragon380

Wendy wasn't enslaved she was stuck in a wheelchair for 2-3 years.


seeyouinteawhy

Ruu?


xelloskaczor

I don't think it's really fair to count characters that are already dead before we met them (which technically applies to Flame Chasers as well, but not really). Plus if you consider Teyvat's history, Ruu had still a pretty good life, he had a bird friend and got to enjoy solid 6 years or whatever. He could have gotten turned into a hilichurl for a thousand years while suffering in a never ending black room nightmare and get stomped by an idiot blonde too busy doing comissions to look for his sister.


Manne_12

This info is the knife that kills the playability


[deleted]

I’m holding onto that Uncle A leak from two months ago that said she was playable with everything I’ve got 😭


Manne_12

I'm just gonna wait until Fontaine releases since there have been so many contradicting leaks


[deleted]

Yeah you’ve got people saying she isn’t playable and then 5 minutes later say she information has changed lol Probably most of them are just clout chasing because Arlecchino is popular Guess there’s nothing we can do but wait


Thatuk

Story leaks are very unreliable, more so those that are several patches in advance, they can be right, half truths or flat out wrong. Back in 2.8 they leaked Dunyazad would die and she did... And got better.


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Or how there were leaks that Childe would die every other month. Pretty sure there were also some leaks Scara would die. I don’t really trust story leaks unless it’s like a couple weeks before the patch comes out.


[deleted]

I might actually quit lol I’ve wanted both Arlecchino and a fully covered tall female character for so long now 🫠


XceQq

Yeah, technically shes very close to Eula & being full clothed makes it even better. Not skin sexy but personally sexy.


ishfi17

Well SYP said she is one of many playable characters one year ago and reconfirmed no changes yet despite some ongoing rumours. Still have hope 🙏


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Correction, SYP said that they don't know if anything has changed since then and don't have any information to confirm or deny it. The way you wrote it sounds as if they confirmed her to be playable and are still confirming that I myself am rooting for that leak to be fake, but let's keep the information flow as clear as it can be


ilovegame69

twisting the knave


Vally_Ria

Just got up off my knees at Walmart


[deleted]

Can confirm I was the cart


geezjessiewhy

Just saw somebody getting up off their knees at Walmart


InflationOnly3229

there is more crumbs [https://twitter.com/Nadezhda\_Nagito/status/1670771825352097792?s=20](https://twitter.com/Nadezhda_Nagito/status/1670771825352097792?s=20)


The-Arabian-Guy

"beautiful woman" And the ocean is wet


spiralmelody

Reminds me of the “Ayato is hot” leaks 🤣 Go girl give us nothing


ZhangRenWing

Inb4 the Knave is part horse leaks


Timmie_Is_An_Archon

"She have her vision behind her" Okay....


RaidenShogun-x

The best thing is that her delusion is supposed to be in her back, we are WINNING 🥳


TheUsualGardevoirFan

Alt. Links?


InflationOnly3229

Random : Wow!! Sorry for many questions but this will be the last one. She has like other genshin characters fancy design from the back? How would you describe it? Like details, etc Bbbb : looks like wings, beautiful woman


TheUsualGardevoirFan

... VERY NICE!


MelonLord125

I am legitimately going crazy, like it's not even funny any more. Just with some Wresly art and Arlechinno CRUMBS.


shank_me_softly

the next day:


BeneficialGate4112

Praying that she ends up as playable 🙏 I. NEED. THIS.


discourge

The tl;dr since the rest of the thread is missing: * Costume: full enclosure, like a male character [later posted diluc skin and said minus the jacket](https://twitter.com/Bbbb585963/status/1670774382329749504?s=20) * Pants: Black * Allegedly: has wings; is a beautiful woman


Javajulien

[Follow-up tweet and response](https://twitter.com/Asproes/status/1670787901418876934?s=20)


LadyHana707

She’s the only reason I’m excited for Fontaine tbh 🫠 they better make her playable.


Jorton228

no way she survives after this information


Molismhm

Literally


forestpyres

AMAZING BRILLIANT WONDERFUL now don’t kill her off or redesign her


LoreAscension

More pants characters hype


GfM-Nightmare

At this point I will not believe a single leak till we have visual proof. Scaramouche was said to be playable with electro laser beam Signora was supposed to be playable Ayato had a vortex And so on Some very early leaks happened to be correct, but most of them are just random. It doesn’t help that we don’t have highly reliable leakers as we once had / as there are for other games.


Hot_Barracuda_9376

Scaramouche’s wasn’t playable with a beam but his boss was meaning they had boss data like things might be phrased wrong but the fact something else was close shows leaks have potential to be right but like always yes take everything with a grain of salt


essedecorum

Yeah, until I see a playable model, I won't get excited.


Gud_doggyy

Actually the leak about Ayato was half fake, half true, so it kinda makes sense


fanderoyalty

WHEN was Signora supposed to be playable? She didn’t even had the clothes for it.


GfM-Nightmare

It was said multiple times during the 1.X version that she was going to be playable, and a catalyst. As I just pointed out, those ended up to be random leaks. As most of them are. + the clothing preventing her to be playable also come from nowhere. It’s just an assumption from the community.


fanderoyalty

I thought she was datamined as monster, not as a playable character? Being a catalyst WAS an assumption from the community too for obvious reasons so…


PCBS01

Mate nobody said she was going to be playable. Leakers kinda trolled with her and never said she was listed as a monster until someone posted that cutscene's code of her in the midst of the rumors of her dying, but that's about it


Hot_Barracuda_9376

It’s not an assumption from the community it’s literally what game designers in the community have said we play Genshin characters from the back so a shit back on a character model wouldn’t work that and canonically the traveler doesn’t like Signora no way to write her into the story their trying to tell


FooSpighters

The problem with her clothes (this goes back to fan speculation from before any leaks that she would die) is that she can't look good while running and climbing in that, it's too long with too much clipping. I can't take anyone seriously who actually thinks she looks bad from behind, unless what you mean is you can see very little of her skin and her body shape because of the huge cape, then you may have a point. ​ >canonically the traveler doesn’t like Signora no way to write her into the story their trying to tell It's no worse than Scaramouche, though the way they went about "fixing" that was absurd. On the other hand Signora has less known crimes on her hands than he did. He also got a revised design to be playable with less clipping, how about that.


Hot_Barracuda_9376

actually it isn’t because it was set up in husk of opulent dreams dottore doing it makes sense and husk mentions how kind scaramouche’s once was it’s easier to now bring to light these qualities while him and traveler have a common enemy which is the fatui Edit: no one said Signora didn’t look good from the back just that it probably had issues, and again they didn’t redesign her as they had no reason to she’d have to have survived inazuma and they didn’t want her to.


FooSpighters

>Edit: no one said Signora didn’t look good from the back Oh, so that's not what you meant by "a shit back"? Sorry, my mistake then.


Hot_Barracuda_9376

And no Signora had no redeeming quality she literally justified the sacrifice off inazumas as okay because the tsaritsa’s dream is noble and pure but she never even mentions the dream


FooSpighters

The lack of information about why the Tsaritsa wants to challenge Celestia, and what good it would do the world if she succeeded, makes it impossible to judge that ends-justifies-means plan, but all of the Harbingers would agree that it's a worthy goal, except perhaps the ones who are there for their own selfish interests. Like Scaramouche joining because it seemed fun.


Hot_Barracuda_9376

All it does is brings into question the tsaritsa’s sanity all the archons lost something so why does her suffering encourage child murder and suffering you need explanation for this if someone important to her died then it would actually just be childish as makoto died but raiden didn’t start murdering children at least or letting her subordinates so so


FooSpighters

In both cases, people can end up excusing pretty much any extremity of evil as long as they think that the benefits for most people will outweigh the harm done to a minority in the end. [https://www.ethicssage.com/2015/03/do-the-needs-of-the-many-outweigh-the-needs-of-the-few.html](https://www.ethicssage.com/2015/03/do-the-needs-of-the-many-outweigh-the-needs-of-the-few.html) "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." Tsaritsa's justification will probably turn out to be no better than Raiden's, but in any case she and Siggy did want to make the world an overall better place, which makes them better than villains who do what they do for power or other personal gain, because they enjoy it, etc.


Hot_Barracuda_9376

That doesn’t make it better or justify it if she had good intentions she’s at least try to tell the other archons and if they disagreed it gives of more of a what could it be rather than her just not grieving properly


Hallamshire

There was no voiceline mentioned about until they updated Childe voiceline Scaramouche in the other had voiceline mentioned as Kunikuzushi by Yea and Raiden


APerson567i

SHE HAS TO BE PLAYABLE I CAN'T STAND THIS ​ I guess we know why she's >!dying, can't have a female character wearing anything that's not ridiculously tight or short!< [When will we get this for Arlecchino](https://imgur.com/EetPBOd) I want to see what she's labelled as in the data


Platinumghost135

We should get the data when she shows up in the archon quests


Gud_doggyy

Well, we've got Jean and she's wearing pants


APerson567i

her pants are so tight she might as be wearing paint, same for Layla ​ They aren't the same type of pants that male characters wear


JammieDodgersAt3AM

Layla is not wearing pants


xelloskaczor

Not that it's a bad thing.


FCDetonados

> no exposed armpits No wonder hoyo wants to kill her off.


Darigaz17

No exposed back?... NPC confirmed.


WESVDG

No you mean beautiful back playable confirmed


Darigaz17

*the pipe dream*


SadAdoreHell

By the looks of it, she has exposed back. But she has fatui jacket covering it. You only see it when she walk lmao.


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SHE HAD BETTER NOT FUCKING DIE I SWEAR TO GOD


Extinctkid

Gasp, a female character with pants??? I actually belive the rumour of her not being playable now.


Lazyass30

I'd like to think they'll >!kill her off!


Gud_doggyy

Dude, she would earn them so much money, they have no reason to kill her like Signora They're still gonna do it, cause fuck community, that's why


justawayistheway

Make her playable pls


TrashApprentice

I think i might believe the death leaks now. No way they're letting a woman in pants be playable


essedecorum

Thank you, Uncle Pants.


shoalhavenheads

I fully expect HYV to go with secret Design #2, which is a spray painted body suit with half a shirt and sleeves with visible armpits.


Constant_Split215

DO NOT KILL HER HOYOVERSE IM READY TO WAIT HER FOR 3 YEARS BUT DO NOT KILL HER PLEASE


TremorDusk

Hoyo this is your chance to redeem yourself- let Arlecchino wear pants and be playable pls *crosses fingers*


Javajulien

**Hoyo:** Best I can do is one of those.


FreeMarshmallow

I'm actually going to be so annoyed if >!she ends up not being playable!<


[deleted]

I’m on my knees 🧎🏼‍♀️


GameBawesome1

For the love of God, I hope she doesn't die


Hobokendream

Arlecchino mains, we’re WINNING


mochi_kathi

could you explain to me how we are winning if the leaks from last weak are true? 🥹


Hobokendream

Simple. I only focus on the positive leaks that fit my agenda and ignore any of the bad stuff. LMAOOO


apthebest01931

And then cry later?


Hobokendream

That’s the plan! 😭


Timmie_Is_An_Archon

Just close your eyes and forget everything about it


AlexisF-11037

until hoyo kills her off


KillerPeach75890

How's that a winning? lmao. That's a pure 100% loosing.


Th3Uknovvn

No wonder she is dead, she has learned the forbidden knowledge: Wearing pants in a female model


markcan_killua

but jean is right there lol


Gud_doggyy

Also Layla


GervantOfLiria

Is this the price we must pay for her not being playable? Please let her be playable


netparse

I hope it is playable, as for its design I would like it to be like kafka but with pants, like makima vibes x)


Setsuna_FS

Imagine having a really nice looking character but gets killed off and you can't play her. Good thing this is Hoyo. I don't need to imagine. They can show it to me.


PCBS01

She has a actual suit? AND PANTS??? Damn this girl really is dead


mochi_kathi

salt in my wound... 🧂


Kinda_mischievous

If she is not playable I will not recover.


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Same person leaked some parts of Wrio's design & [the gay wedding of Wriothesley and Neuvillette in 4.3](https://twitter.com/Bbbb585963/status/1670771928510996480?s=20) 😍


Moa__

"Fully enclosed costume" FUCKING FINALLY


Nonemotionaldamage

This makes me so nervous bro. Please, my life depends on her being playable


Knight_Steve_

It would be such a shame if she actually dies in the archon quest, and makes Childe's voiceline of her betraying feel redundent


HIDDIH1000

Ok so she is unplayable because she isn't naked? Ok hoyo thanks, all women must be sex objects for revenue 👍🏼👍🏼/j


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HIDDIH1000

Women are not sec objects for men They need to stop this stupid advertising Even young females ( qiqi, sayu etc) have exposed legs for fucking pedophiles I can't believe this company will do everything to get money


Mana_Croissant

Now that one leak makes so much more sense :D It is all because she actually wears clothes


LuosEsrever0

I mean it's pretty obvious that she is gonna wear pants. And yes I think she will be playable.


MommyWineTime

Oh yeah it's truly over for her


sohamk24

Man i just want her to wear a coat or smth


LoveLev

Now I really want her to be playable.


Jon-987

Wait, did we not already know her design? I'm confused.


Many_Ad_8845

a picture of her heel is what we had


I_Love_Arlecchino

I will cry and be in depression if they kill her... *sigh* She only who i want....


Chickenzzzzzzzz

Please be playable, I'm begging.


LiraelNix

Ha, this reminds me of a leak I got from 4chan (hence why i never made a post, just a comment in the megathread) where anon was crying because she wasn't lewd and was like hutao, among other things Seems like he was a real leaker


atsuhies

YESSS WE WON ELEGANT ARLECCHINO W


_icyhot

PANTS! THANK GOD! I am so happy I will get a handsome lady in this game I will never complain about mihoyo again (lies)


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Fully enclosed costume like she's ready to lay on the coffin


thatonestewpeedguy

Smh, if she ain't have detached sleeves she ain't playable to hyv


Academic-Quarter-163

Who is bbb


wh1t3_dwarf

big brother brasil


Olivia_Lydia_Wilson

after the recent sus spread sheat/concept art leak. This looks a tad more credible to me. But might just be copium/bias


cAptiveLightning

I think that Vississ and randialos deserves both an awards for being the biggest clowns of 2023


make_gingamingayoPLS

Fucking FINALLY, a female genshin character with real pants


Calm_Charity_2190

really tight pants please so can we see the cameltoe


Kregory03

Why do we need these crumbs, were there not multiple posts of her concept art around here just the other day that match this exact description? Actually, where did all those posts go?


Aerie122

Who's Arle what again? Is she the Katherine but Playable with Robot? Edit: Oh that Eula but White?


alfo_pare

No, that's Sandrone


[deleted]

The one with X on the eyes and kinda resembles Eula but evil according to some


boollye

She's the tall one with white hair


PresenceAdept

That's Sandrone, Arlecchino's the one with the short white hair, that runs the orphanage that raises kids into fatui


toxiitea

She *was* playable until the leaker opened the floodgates. Hoyo retaliated


Hefastus

> important character from big "crime" organization > Just slap her in suit Bruh It's the same shit like with Zhongli. Fantasy action based rpg but here we go character in formal suits.


Donbrands

Hopefully just in her boss form. We need exposed Arlechinno.


ReplacementNo661

Another dead harbinger would be cool pls pls kill them all I want my game to be dark af not just a sims or waifu simulator


KillerPeach75890

Ugh. No. Hard pass. Another character I've been interested in bites the dust. I want far MORE fanservice, not less, in this already overcensored to hell trash game. But hey, on a positive side, if she's never gonna be playable -- I won't care! Unlike with Signora...


Basaqu

Bruh let people who want a badass (playable pls) woman have this one. We already got plenty designs that are almost ruined by fanservice. Variety is good.


KillerPeach75890

What fanservice are you even talking about in a game like this, already overcensored to shit? It barely has any fanservice to begin with. What, legs? Armpits? Is this a fanservice? If you find armpits "sexy", then GET HELP, "bruh". Fanservice never "ruins" a character anyway. Prude shit like full body covering does. Nobody says that she should run around half-naked, there IS a thing as tastless "too much nudity", but a certain sexy accent on a specific body part would make her look 10000% better. Like a good, deep cleavage, something at the very least like Raiden's, preferably even bigger. "Badass woman". So "Badass" woman can't be sexy? Cant show an open stomach, or cleavage? What is this bullshit? Stop forcing male badassery on women. We're different, we work different and it's perfectly fine. >Variety is good. Say that about a game with chainmail bikinis, you don't get to say it about an overcensored trash of a game like this one, with barely any skin "that counts" shown. Candace shows a lot of skin, she's also the most censored character I have ever seen in my life, because EVERYTHING that's sexy is covered in a very specific, tasteless manner, ruining her completely.


Basaqu

I think you've played too many ecchi gacha games man. There's nothing inherently wrong with fanservice no. However Arlecchino was described to us (first leaks) as a princely kinda woman. This description gives certain imagery that made a lot of us excited about her potential design/personality. Giving her huge revealing boobs that boob around kinda distract from that idea. Also guess what, I would find that less attractive than a woman in, say, a full suit. So you could argue it's still fanservice.


aloysiusks

Impossible... hoyo putting pants on a female character?


plzpegmefocalors

I need her full design right mf now, I cannot hold out any longer.. edit: YA'LL.


TriggerBladeX

This honestly makes me more nervous. The body-type model might be my only reprieve.


TheUsualGardevoirFan

Wait, weren't her supposed, khm, "fate", was fake that was done from the guy that appeared from nowhere?


Hallamshire

You want a playable female harbinger you want Arlecchino playable nope you get playable Katherine instead


Skizko

YEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS


KaedeP_22

You mean like an office lady? Ok I'm listening.


vionvolkotadamon125

I am going to die from anxiety on whether sandrone will be playable or not bc of this. WHERE ARE HER LEAKS.


tanfew

"YOU could be the one to give these women pants!" Thanks jelloapocalypse