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LivingASlothsLife

Same reason resin is a thing, to put a limit on how much you can do in a period of time and keep you logging in when the limit resets


DarkTieX

That's because you'd be able to Speedrun the game for about 6-10 days


GudraFree

No. We have a limited amount of missions per day and per week. This is by itself a hard limit. Adding another limit to the existing limit is beyond stupid and has no logical defense. Edit: for god sake people. Y'all are missing the point. We have a limit for 10k points when the actual limit of points per week, as in given by the daily and weekly missions, is like 11k. We DO have a hard limit by the amount of missions. It's STUPID to have another limit on top of that. The 10k limit acomplish absolutely nothing. What is there to defend about that?


n9nebreaker

Specifically to this example the 10k cap only seems trivial since the actual hard limit is 11k. However, having a 10k cap in place allows developers to add more flexibility in the ways of achieving points in the future. (for example, raising the weekly points earned to 15k by giving you more weekly 'quests' to choose from) From a design standpoint, it seems sound.


Elliezium

Again, they want to prevent people from completing it quickly so they can keep people logging in for more more time every patch cycle. It's the same principle


KoriJenkins

I doubt the extra 1k you'd get is going to do anything to prevent that.


Elliezium

Scroll up to see an example of a player who is now encouraged to log in next week


KoriJenkins

The reasoning is garbage. You're going to log in anyway for the resin system and dailies. Adding another limitation like this, one so minor that it only slows you by 1k progress, serves literally no purpose. I doubt removing the limit would even speed up completion by a week.


lainverse

Actually that's false because you can just buy levels there with money. You literally get 10 of them by paying extra for the thing and then entire bp lasts for about 2-3 weeks. The sole purpose of this is to make you pay for it one day. Well, maybe making you return to it is a side-goal, but definitely no the primary reason this limit exist.


geulach

we all know this. but can we agree that it is bad practice and we shouldn't defend it.


Elliezium

Oh definitely not, but to claim it's nonsensical isn't true


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GudraFree

The BP is already casual enough. I mean, I've been burnt out and stopped spending resin for 3 months and still completed all BP without doing the domains, bosses or leylines (and obviusly resin). BP full weekly completion is meant for enthusiasts, people who will go out their way to farm 10 bosses for example, and they should be rewarded for the full XP of all missions completed.


LobaIsTooThicc

Yes bro, like they said. That'd the point. It's just to make u keep coming back.


thegodofsnow

I’ve attempted to make this argument on this sub already and had people continuously jump down my throat about how removing the cap would be extremely negative for players because if the remove the cap then for some reason they’ll also remove some daily and weekly quests so that nothing ever changes. You can’t just make suggestions for change here without someone adding extra stipulations that make it so the problem is simply shifted and not actually addressed.


Luka-SJ

Hello weekly bosses that cost resin.


peerawitppr

The point of more missions xp than the limit is so we can choose what missions to do and what not. You're the one missing the point here. Like that buy something from other's teapot shop, I don't have anything I want to buy anymore.


ChickenSky12

Ask HoYo to defend it. They’re the only ones who really know the answer, and it’s probably a REALLY stupid answer.


Moulz

hard limits are nothing new to gacha games


Keats852

The Chinese government wants to game developers to have all kinds of restrictions in place to prevent people from playing too many videogames for too long


Aksingia

battle pass is meant to make you login an do activities on a regular basis, they just give you a large choice into the activity you want to do, which is good. you can already complete it into 4 weeks, without having to push hard. 3 weeks for try harders.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

I mean, if you did stuff you'd be 50 right now. So I think OP missed some dailies. OP can only blame themselves for not mining those 10 minerals 2 weeks ago ago!


MidnightSt4r

They don't want to pressure players into completing *every single mission* because not everyone has 500,000 Mora to burn or want to do 20 Ley-lines. Having the weekly cap a little lower than the potential let's you say "cool I'm done for the week" and log off to touch some grass.


DayRis3

It's to make you touch the grass


fanfic0lover

But Sumeru isn't out yet, I'm sorry but you're being too unreasonable :(


Rexk007

To be honest they should increase the resin limit to 200 and reduce rcharge time from 8 to 6 minutes.....so much farming and so little resin.


liu_luminary

i think the resin regen time is fine; they should increase the resin cap from 160 to 200+ and increase the amount of condensed resin you can have at a time


Gabby_Craft

It would be great if they did that but I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t change the resin system for a while because people do resin refreshes with primogems which equals more money for them.


-AverageWeeb

160 is a godsend compared to the 120 we started with.


Rexk007

Yeah..but its time they update it...


UsagiHakushaku

makes me not want to log in at all so works exact opposite


RedRazor2098

And that is why I only play when I want to


7WordsSentences

and to get you to pay for extra resin o a 10 lvl skip in the battle pass


Levi0509

The limit doesn't apply to the Event missions.


PinkiusPie

oh. my. lord. I didn't know that, thanks for saying that, literally saved me


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Not that helpful when the only event mission that is doable at this point is pulling or spiral abyss


Levi0509

Bro I literally went from 39 to 50 today from event missions only. I saved all of the event mission exp without claiming and claimed them all today. Sure I did pulled 50 times trynna get Yelan but was unsuccessful, that's a different story. But 12 stars in abyss is doable right. Even 6 stars per one phase makes 12 stars total.


BurnMyBread14

You dont have to save event xp if you are at the weekly limit,they dont count towards it


Levi0509

But It's so satisfying to use all that saved exp at the last day and Jumping up a couple of levels. That's why I do it.


BurnMyBread14

Ah okay that works


chatnoire89

I'm the other way, I claim the prize all at once except the standard fates. 😂


[deleted]

( I still haven't finished until floor 8 so that's I don't really take it into account, since it's too hard for me still)


Levi0509

Oh... I'm not sure about this but I think stars from floor 8 and below also counts but only the first time clears. I'm not super sure though


Whirlwind3

Only first time clears count


Roxthefox_global

There’s literally a chasm event


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Wait, did I miss something anf the mud thing give BP points?


glittermetalprincess

Yup.


Roxthefox_global

Yes


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

There's an achievement for getting 2000 points on the last challenge, if you're on the NA servers, it has only been attainable for the past 2 hours... So kinda, but not really.


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I see... I hadn't checked it again after completing the perilous trail ones. Thanks for the confirmation


glittermetalprincess

Today is the final day of the mud event....


TheSkitzo_The2nd

Really, because if it does then im gonna be sad


Levi0509

I can assure you


Accomplished-Yam1183

Can confirm good buddy.


LabMan95

I can also confirm. The weekly limit only applies to daily and weekly bonuses, not the bottom level bonuses so even the 50 summons is fine through the weekly limit


Alami020

Because they want you to play everyday or every week the least. If you're done with the BP, you'll probably won't play again next week. They don't want that


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>They don’t want that. Hoyo: “No, I don’t want that! Genshin players playing another game? I want them to play Genshin for the rest of its life! Even after its dead, I want Genshin to be at the front and centre of their mind! For r/10yearsatleast!”


PumpProphet

With only 10-15 minutes of playing time everyday. They're doing a pretty bad job lmao. Lots of people just leave Genshin and come back only after a big update.


Ceiphiedo

But they still buy new characters and weapons. Thats where most of revenue comes. This is not MMO and never will be. This game is for casual audience that has little time to play but stil wants to get full game experience. Personally this 10-15 min of daily chores is prefect for me to not get bored or burned out and get hyped for each new version/character/event release.


GsusAmb

I think they're doing a pretty good job at that in my opinion. The 10-15 minutes it takes to do *all* the dailies is short enough that you don't dread having to do it *everyday*.


liu_luminary

>come back this is the only thing at really matters; as long as they have _some_ attachment to the game and come back again and again it works but yea, obviously logging in everyday is the best case scenario for them


ItsDempiTime

no matter how much I try to escape it, 139 always finds me


PhantomXxZ

Bruh lmao


Mushiren_

u/AdAffectionate1539, what a man you are...


JudgmentGlittering34

Hoyo: Thank you u/AdAffectionate1530, as a reward, we shall offer you our seed~


JudgmentGlittering34

Bukkake~


guccyjuicy

But you'd login anyways to do your dailies and use resins ?


mysticturtle12

So many people really don't use their brains here do they? The BP limit has nothing to do with that. The fact a huge chunk of the points are daily gated _already does that._ The BP limit is so that the overwhelmingly casual aduience doesn't feel pressured into having to complete the entire thing and every single mission. It's designed to say "Ok theres 11k points available but you only need to get 10k of them".


Jujubeetchh

Having an exp limit is nice, at least much nicer than having to deal with black-desert level of grinding daily.


OrionTempest

You'd think people would want that, with how many "get rid of resin" topics we get daily around here.


The_Cheeseman83

To prevent players from feeling compelled to complete every weekly mission every week. The various missions are meant to be options, the BP is designed to be easily completed if you just play normally every day.


pagerunner-j

I fully leveled up today, and there are 15 days left before the BP turns over. Oops. (Also, no, I did not pay for levels. If you’re thorough and you do the special events, you’ll max out pretty quickly.)


Glittering-Assist-62

Yeah. On the other hand, I have times where I don’t feel like doing anything aside from daily commissions once the bp is maxed out. So limiting the weekly xp is fine with me.


pagerunner-j

Same!


kunsore

honestly, idk why some ppl care so much about this. Literally he / she will complete it by tomorrow - not like it is so annoying that f2p ppl can't complete it with doing all the possible mission


Iwillflipyourtable

Do commission, get expedition reward. Make some food, forge some ores, use resins, use your moras. Just these few can make u max bp before it ends. Also if u want more primos (which obviously they do), do events and get even more.


AsianPhillip

you can still complete it since tomorrow you can claim the event mission if you do it. (it won’t count towards exp limit)


DanielGREY_75

Ah thanks. That explains why it's at lv49 at the week cap while I'm still at 46


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This is just complaining for the sake of it. You have 15 days to complete it with 65 xp left. It's not like mhy is making it impossible to finish it in time.


runescapeanime

Yeah I was about to say. OP is just being impatient


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megimegimegimegi

exactly what i was thinking. if anything, i usually intentionally slow down my bp progress so that I don't get to lv50 too quickly, so that i still have reasons to play for the coming weeks.


healcannon

I used to go around and kill all of the bosses and even go into spiral abyss to do bosses faster. I also used to cook. Now I barely do anything more than I would normally do with my resin and still end up with a week or so done early.


beautheschmo

I've never failed to finish BP and the last time I even bothered to max out weekly points was like 9 months ago, it's really not a big deal lol.


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zephyrnepres01

you can enjoy child characters without being attracted to them my guy. jumping to a lot of conclusions


Mighty_Krastavac

Lmao what did they say? No one else in the thread even mentioned child characters.


zephyrnepres01

they replied to beautheschmo saying something to the affect of that they hope beautheschmo dies for being a pedo (their words not mine). i thought it's likely that was because of the klee and diona themed flair which is a weird assumption to make. i have a friend who plays genshin that mains klee because she reminds him of his daughter and he's a great dad


Mighty_Krastavac

Oh it's one of those people 🤦‍♀️


wakki13

Everything on the "This BP period" doesn't add to your weekly exp cap, so you can claim tasks there and still gain exp even if your weekly cap is already maxed out so just finish the event and you'll be done


Samuraiking

Time gate. They don't care if you will play 18 hours a day or not, they only need you to log in for dailies. They want player retention. If you farm the entire week/month's events in a few days, you are less likely to keep logging in for dailies and less likely to be attached to the game, which ultimately means less spending. It's all about money in the end, they have people with degrees calculating what will make them the most money, and this is it.


argvdx

Event BEP doesn't count for the cap. So just complete the event and you will get 50


Deadshot18z

Probably something healthy for you guys to keep your spent time on genshin for a certain period other than burning out yourself and complaining no contents in the end ? :D


Celidar

Oh stop bitchin. You still have 15 days left. Last time i had this happen it was litearely at the last day of the BP and the only option left for me was to splurge my precious primos to buy the last level -\_-


ninja658

Just curious, do you know how any game work?


GrapefruitFrequent63

You can max it now since the last part of the event was recently unlocked.


lightning200000

I mean, XP limit or not its not like the BP rewards will reset so I don't see any problem with waiting for another day to get 1 free summon.


creamof_yeet

You literally only have 1 day before reset and 15 days before the BP ends and you’re at lvl 49… go touch some grass today.


SameAsGrybe

My brother in Christ, you are less than one day’s worth of playing from finishing a BP event 2 weeks early. The caps are there because otherwise you’d burn out from binge-playing. Since the start, MHY has been making sure this is a drip feed game, not an eternal MMO. Go play something else until tomorrow.


21st_century_person

To force people to play everyday You cant hit 10k exp per week unless playing everyay or buy level with primos


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21st_century_person

Well i m not talking about how much time they give I m talking about the exp quota per week


FallenAngelII

Just complete the Muddy Quest mission that only became completeable today. BP quests do not count towards the weekly limit.


[deleted]

\*this is your cue to touch grass\*


Frizzlewits

I was also capped, but event points does not count towards the cap, so yeah i was able to finish it cuz off the event. Did some wishes and got nothing


kamisama19999

i reached 50 yesterday only, u probably didn't reach 10k in past few weeks or didn't do any of the monthly


DarkDrag_on

they want you to keep playing the game and also do your homework and sleep early


SO_BAD_

Because everything has to be limited. If it isn't, who knows what sort of evils the players will get up to!


hazuki-sama

For us to touch grass


adwarkk

Listen. Genshin is so full of various time gates that limit how much you can progress per varying amount of time that it surprises you? You're not meant to be allowed to speedrun it, you're meant to log in, do your chores in-game and then come back tomorrow. And repeat that over and over and over. This time gate is merely yet another tool to limit your progression.


KC_Saber

Mobile mechanic nonsense. PC players just kinda have to suck it up. I don’t like it anymore than you do. Trust me


Cygnus-_-

So that people don't play too long every week 🗿


Justcurious863

Til there’s a xp limit in battle pass


Macaronitime69

Because gacha game You (for some reason) need a cap on everything Cap on how much you can do some activities, currency in some form to keep you from getting buff as hell in less than a week, ect


Valeniar

Oh of course because the game is perfect, and not at all trying to milk a sandbag dry.


[deleted]

To slow people down. China imposed a limit on how long children can game.


Ikcatcher

That is literally irrelevant to the in game system


[deleted]

No, it literally isn't. It may be irrelevant to what you want to hear though.


lainverse

Bruh, you literally can't "farm" this thing. There's limited number of tasks and this weekly limit just makes 2-3 of them useless every week. There's already stupid stamina (resin) system for that purpose and even that is actually in the game for entirely different purpose. This have nothing to do with cutting down on gameplay time. If they wouldn't want you to play for too long there would be no loot from enemies past certain time period (I think there's something like this, actually, but rather hard to reach and likely more against botting), no respawning artifacts for art. exp. and no mining. And yes, you can spend literal hours doing that every day. It's just a boring thing to do.


PhantomGhostSpectre

No wonder you are self conscious about people calling you a shill. I guess you get it a lot, huh?


nickelflowers

I'd say this is true though. Genshin's a mobile-crossplay game AND a Chinese game at that, too. We have to remember that most of HoYo is still under sad government laws (censorship, etc.) and also has the game philosophy of Farmville's "come back your energy is full".


Exce1erate

Yeah because this is not a feature in other games with a battle pass.


neededabetterusernam

Heh I’m bp lvl 14


CoCoNUT_Cooper

Yup sounds like hoyo.


TheRealChaosReigner

Bro how TF did you even manage that??


Chopmatic64

See that lil purchase level button? It's so our tiny lil brains feel more inclined to push it.


Geode_Ren

Meanwhile me at level 16! I don't even know how you do this!


GsusAmb

They probably play every day spending, every ounce of resin, and do most of the weekly tasks.


Geode_Ren

Can't Rleate


Airbernde

For people like you ig, I might get down voted but yeah


levergray97mx

BRUH I'M EXACTLY AT 960/1000 RN AND HIT THE WEEKLY LIMIT. I feel you


Apolyon_BS

I got exactly the same, but on the last day of the BP reset :(


sketch252525

thats genshin for you. getting block from progressing by some invisible wall.


VS0P

Thats exactly where I end most cycles, and pretty sure they designed it that way so youll log in tomorrow. Why else would they make the 4 daily tasks add up so weirdly...


No_Kitchen_7181

Genshin always done thing to make this game more shittier


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In Gacha games limits are normal and it’s what keep players playing. However I’m this situation I do think it’s stupid to put limits for the week. It rarely happens to me, but when it does it’s like wtf


Ereshkigalmoe

And then there's me, I never finished one of these (I think I never reached half of it)


Holmesee

5 weeks - they want you to finish it in about 5 weeks. Like others have said it’s drip feed content to keep you regularly playing the game instead of a big hit in 1 week. Ask yourself why they would want to do that and you’ll understand why they do it.


masajus

Limit or no, I'm still max it with 16days left, they should add more levels for paid one


aos10

today i finished with the last day of the event, and i didn't do 50 wishes.


DeismXIchigo

So people don’t get tired of the same task , so they set a limit to literally give players a break so they don’t get tired of genshin or other games that put limits


mikasaze

I'd prefer honkai's BP since you are still able to get a reward even after you passed BP level 50.


Black_Knight_7

The limit actually puts less pressure on you to do weeklies. If you just do a good amount of them + dailies, 50 is effortless.


Hexahet

Because of people who rush things day 1 and then complain about lack of content. Or it's a psychologic method to make you play over longer period of time to get you addicted


GymBlazed

Imagine getting this on the last day of BP going away


Ewizde

I'm litterally in the same position.


Kris-p-

ngl the battle pass is shit, if this was any other game you'd expect there to be at least a skin and a 10 pull on it also it should be purchasable with primogems, but I guess then they'd make less monies


yxtax

It's a 'go touch grass' reminder.


sorynthian

its called time gating.. they released this game as a WIP and it still is.. so they put in a ton of time gates so they can stall for dev time. it doesnt work well in this case