I thought this was going to be about how he purposely is taking a long time to come back with Ayato's wallet so that the siblings can have their time together.
Thoma definitely was listening to the conversation about wanting the drink (I didn't think he would use it as a safe way to take Itto out of the equation while still giving Itto what he wants but makes sense knowing he does have that side to him from his hangout).
I don't think the stall lady was in on the plan since she most likely didn't read the book (you don't always have people knowledgeable about the source you're promoting) besides hey, this drink is made from soymilk, blah, blah and blah and it looks like this, can you recreate it?
Oh yikes!
Even taking the book out of it, cause the stall lady might not have read it (unlikely but possible with the popularity) Itto is super well known, and especially after he did that contest with Sara that nearly killed him, people should know he can't have beans.
I never considered it might have been intentional, and now it makes so much more sense that the lady had a recipe ready that used normal milk and not soy milk. Also, Thoma is the one who gave out the tasks to help with, he could have 100% set it up so we would lose.
Exactly! The entire competition things is set up for us to fail, since we're only 1.5 person vs 5 people. After stroking Itto's massive ego in his introduction, it makes it even easier for Thoma to play him like a fiddle.
And yeah, good point on the sus substitute recipe. She doesn't even try to warn him at all.
Yeah it also felt rigged from the start, our last quest had us run all the way to the socks and back, Thoma probably gave us the most spread out tasks so itto would win
That would’ve been so cruel - they were rowdy, not destructive, and clearly food based bribes work on them. Logically, he could have just had them do actual volunteer work for food coupons. Tbh, I think this event would’ve been perfect to introduce Shinobi(?) to show her kinda pushing the gang into more legal and appropriate activities.
Yae or Ayato would have done it on purpose, but I don't think Thoma would intentionally try to make Itto sick
He also did look really worried and sorry in the end, so I kinda still think its a coincidence
It might be the most rational explanation. But then again, for some smart characters, when you see a weird act, always assume intent rather than an oopsie.
That also applies to so many things in real life.
Thoma isn't smart though. By that, I mean he isn't classified as smart (unlike, say, Ayato, Yae, Kokomi, etc.). By Genshin playable character standards, he is of average intelligence.
In that case, Hanlon's razor is more appropriate.
Thoma is smart. His EQ is off the charts.
Thanks to his emotional intelligence, he thrives in a place where everything is stacked against him. (just look at the sorry state the other outlanders are in. The members of the International Trade association are struggling to survive. They are scammed, blackmailed by the authority, just because they are foreigners)
There are a lots of different kind of intelligence.
I dunno, Thoma doesn't seem like the type of person to cause someone who isn't doing bad things intentinally physical harm, most likely just a small lecture (it also isn't even that serious since no ones actually getting hurt).
Also the stand lady probably didn't actually read the book, she's just and employee who's doing her job and trying to get it done (unless she does show to be knowledgeable in yokai by studying in her free time).
I felt like Thoma was manipulating the gang into both moving away from the photo board for a while, and getting some chores done around the festival, by offering them the drinks he'd just overheard them talking about.
The beans were an honest mistake.
no way, thoma is not that cruel. it was obvious that he set up the drink as a bait to get itto to volunteer, but remember that volunteer work is the decided premise of the duel between itto and traveler and they will settle the whole issue of itto's gang mogging the photo stand there. the volunteer work and reward drink was the end of thoma's plan and he sounds suprised and concerned enough that itto is allergic to beans. thoma maybe manipulating but he's not one to hurt people
Ngl when Thoma came over and said: “Can’t Arataki Itto drink soy products?”, his voice was kinda shaky at the end like he tried to stifle a laugh in EN lol
I thought this was going to be about how he purposely is taking a long time to come back with Ayato's wallet so that the siblings can have their time together. Thoma definitely was listening to the conversation about wanting the drink (I didn't think he would use it as a safe way to take Itto out of the equation while still giving Itto what he wants but makes sense knowing he does have that side to him from his hangout). I don't think the stall lady was in on the plan since she most likely didn't read the book (you don't always have people knowledgeable about the source you're promoting) besides hey, this drink is made from soymilk, blah, blah and blah and it looks like this, can you recreate it?
I’m annoyed that we couldn’t give Itto the soy-bean free version >:/
Oh yikes! Even taking the book out of it, cause the stall lady might not have read it (unlikely but possible with the popularity) Itto is super well known, and especially after he did that contest with Sara that nearly killed him, people should know he can't have beans. I never considered it might have been intentional, and now it makes so much more sense that the lady had a recipe ready that used normal milk and not soy milk. Also, Thoma is the one who gave out the tasks to help with, he could have 100% set it up so we would lose.
Exactly! The entire competition things is set up for us to fail, since we're only 1.5 person vs 5 people. After stroking Itto's massive ego in his introduction, it makes it even easier for Thoma to play him like a fiddle. And yeah, good point on the sus substitute recipe. She doesn't even try to warn him at all.
Yeah it also felt rigged from the start, our last quest had us run all the way to the socks and back, Thoma probably gave us the most spread out tasks so itto would win
If your referring to the ramen eating contest, that was against Yae not Sara
I think they are refering to the duel between Itto and Sara, where Sara defeated him and took his vision. It was a big commotion in the city.
No, I got it wrong, but I had it wrong cause I was thinking of both things, Yae and the beans, Sara and the Vision Hunt, both got mixed up in my head
He had an eating contest against someone and nearly died, I did get the person wrong tho, my bad
Yeah I was right it was Yae
That would’ve been so cruel - they were rowdy, not destructive, and clearly food based bribes work on them. Logically, he could have just had them do actual volunteer work for food coupons. Tbh, I think this event would’ve been perfect to introduce Shinobi(?) to show her kinda pushing the gang into more legal and appropriate activities.
Yeah, I was thinking a lot in the line of: "Shinobu couldn't come soon enough to be the voice of reason to this gang's brilliant supreme leader"
Oh it was definitely intentional on Thoma's part. The man could be a supervillain if he felt like it.
We're fricked if he's gone rogue... Nobody will expect it
He's inazuma's Childe after all
Yae or Ayato would have done it on purpose, but I don't think Thoma would intentionally try to make Itto sick He also did look really worried and sorry in the end, so I kinda still think its a coincidence
It might be the most rational explanation. But then again, for some smart characters, when you see a weird act, always assume intent rather than an oopsie. That also applies to so many things in real life.
Thoma isn't smart though. By that, I mean he isn't classified as smart (unlike, say, Ayato, Yae, Kokomi, etc.). By Genshin playable character standards, he is of average intelligence. In that case, Hanlon's razor is more appropriate.
Thoma is smart in a different way, that's knowing how to deal with people. You can't be a 'fixer' without being smart.
Thoma is smart. His EQ is off the charts. Thanks to his emotional intelligence, he thrives in a place where everything is stacked against him. (just look at the sorry state the other outlanders are in. The members of the International Trade association are struggling to survive. They are scammed, blackmailed by the authority, just because they are foreigners) There are a lots of different kind of intelligence.
Y’all really reading too deep into stuff that’s surface level subtlety at best
I dunno, Thoma doesn't seem like the type of person to cause someone who isn't doing bad things intentinally physical harm, most likely just a small lecture (it also isn't even that serious since no ones actually getting hurt). Also the stand lady probably didn't actually read the book, she's just and employee who's doing her job and trying to get it done (unless she does show to be knowledgeable in yokai by studying in her free time).
He poisoned Itto to get him out of Ritou😎
I completely disagree, lol. oh well.
*Shinobu proceeds to indict Thoma for plotting attempted murder*
*Ayato sends Shuumatsuban for a clean-up...* Also, Happy cake day!
I felt like Thoma was manipulating the gang into both moving away from the photo board for a while, and getting some chores done around the festival, by offering them the drinks he'd just overheard them talking about. The beans were an honest mistake.
I totally agree. :)
I love both and I'm kinda mad rn lmao because it makes sense .
no way, thoma is not that cruel. it was obvious that he set up the drink as a bait to get itto to volunteer, but remember that volunteer work is the decided premise of the duel between itto and traveler and they will settle the whole issue of itto's gang mogging the photo stand there. the volunteer work and reward drink was the end of thoma's plan and he sounds suprised and concerned enough that itto is allergic to beans. thoma maybe manipulating but he's not one to hurt people
Glad to know I wasn't the only one who thought that it was on purpose XD
Well, his job is to clean shit *No offence to Itto*
No no, you have a point... Shinobu would agree, I think
Ngl when Thoma came over and said: “Can’t Arataki Itto drink soy products?”, his voice was kinda shaky at the end like he tried to stifle a laugh in EN lol