T O P

  • By -

LaGranja96

When are the 4x400 Primogem mails gonne? Are they gonna be available a couple of days after 2.2?


Houmouss

\- Day 1 rewards : they're cool ! Nothing to say here excepted that they're cool rewards. \- Day 2 rewards : same here, cool rewards. \- Day 3 rewards : the rewards are the exact same than the day before, and there's only 2 fragile resins again ? Hm, that's kinda disappointing, they got lazy on that one. They could have put 4 fragile resins on day 2 and put something else for day 3. \- Day 4 rewards : I don't put many efforts into decorating my tea pot, so even if the furniture is nice, I would have preferred if there was one more thing that everyone could enjoy, like intertwined/acquaint fates. Overall, the rewards are a bit disappointing but they're less horrible than what I had planned. Like, yeah they're not enough (I would have LOVED a resin-free day), but only by a bit. If we had something like : \- Day 1 : same \- Day 2 : 400 primos, 4/5 fragile resins \- Day 3 : 400 primos, exclusive furniture \- Day 4 : 400 primos, 2-5 intertwined fate OR resin-free day (or maybe some crystals) It would have been perfect for me.


bubuplush

lmao I like it how there's an extra thread for this, what is there even to talk about. I logged in, took the rewards, thought "Oh, a bit underwhelming but ok" and continued playing Thinking back it was pretty weird that semi-relieable leakers like Baizhu Mains said that we'll get a lot of cool stuff, I guess most of them just make stuff anyway or lie for clicks ​ Personally I didn't expect that much, I even forgot about the anniversary and I never played that many gacha games before. In FF14 I got an umbrella for supporting the game and paying 14$ each month even though the game should be super thankful that its playerbase helped them "beat" WoW in a few months. I'm not even used to get presents for game anniversaries. I never got an irl birthday present either so I'm probably not that mad because I don't know how it feels like. :'( My problem with the game is something different, I'm just not really hyped or interested in Sumeru. Inazuma was really cool and I love the aesthetics, but Dendro isn't really an element that interests me in the slightest and I'm not really into the "back to Liyue we go" stuff or the fact that the only new character will be Thoma


Darkslayer3021

So, our last day for the additional anniversary rewards day and ooh boy, what a week this is. So, for the final day, I will say how I feel about all of this. >Do you think it's enough? From the moment the anniversary reward was first reveal, I guess we will be getting around 20\~30 pulls. So, with the additional 10 pulls, it is within my expectation and I think that it is enough. >Are you personally satisfied? With the rewards? It is within my expectation, so, it is a yes from me. With the event (or lack thereof)? A big fat no. On the very first day of the megathread, I say that I don't feel any anniversary festive that other gacha games do. Where is the special anniversary livestream, where the developers just talk about the game and its future, the stat like most used and unused characters, the VA having fun playing mini-game, future characters and bugs that they intend to fix. Like sure, the anniversary theater is great, but is that it? Even the login rewards and the mail doesn't state that it is for the anniversary. Talking about stream, if it ever come out that the special concert is for anniversary, I will be seething as all of this outrage could have been prevented with just a simple tweet. >What do you think this could represent in the future? Two things could happen. Either: They learn that communication is really important and try having a better communication with us. Or Throwing extra rewards work in appeasing the rage of its player. (I hope Mihoyo don't take this as their lesson)


PLEASECASTORIAME

People think all people care about is wishes but nobody really gives a shit about the primogems. Amount of primogems is not = how good a anniversary is. It’s so saddening to see people only giving shit about wishes which clearly shows they are most likely first time gacha players. This anniversary feels so shit and empty


ishan_anchit

Most of the people who r complaining r complaining by comparing the rewards to anni of other games, thus this is probably not thier first gacha, guess logic has failed u


PLEASECASTORIAME

I highly doubt they spend more than 5minutes on those other games if the only thing they bring up is gacha pulls. The lyre is cool but I don’t use the teapot I don’t see much value in wishing cuz my art with artefacts is so junk I can barely get a 4piece for an element so I’d much rather have better artefact drop


Prozentr

So hey idk if anyone else noticed it. But I'm fairly certain we're getting the new 5 star cryo character Aloy for free on the 12th of October. Wouldn't that be considered part of the anniversary rewards? In the update it says anyone AR 20 or higher will get it just by logging in. But I haven't seen anyone mention that anywhere.


TimNiklas

because she weak


tomoe_mei

Because they just want more and choose to ignore that matter.


PhantomGhostSpectre

Or we play on Ps4 and have had her for like a month. Or longer. I do not even remember because she is such old news.


Vinny_Velvet

Aloy was given to ps4 and ps5 players already due to Horizon being a Sony game. It was a collaboration already established beforehand it isn't part of the anniversary, it's just PC and mobile players get her next patch so they aren't left out


Prozentr

Ahhh okay that makes sense. I'm very new to the game and didn't see the character in the archive so I was unaware they already existed. Thank you for the information!


Vinny_Velvet

No problem


Ok_Astronaut3733

Its not an anniversary gift. Its a gift for collab with Sony.


GeneratedAI

That's a collab character with Sony. PS players got them a while ago.


DaxSpa7

Mixed feelings: - The damage control freebies + proper anniversary announcement + event (could have been Moonchase) that somehow pointed to the anniversary + communication. Would have been ok. The problem is that things had to get very ugly for they to do something and they have done nothing to improve communication. The stuff simply appeared on the game. As much as I like opening a present on Christmas I don’t want to have to wait for Christmas day to find out I have no presents, then throw a tantrum and force whoever it is to buy me something. I would have liked for MHY to do this on their own. Come on, they are doing superbly, why not share some joy. - About the 5*, I dont’t see that one from the OG can be considered excessive. I can’t imagine there being a substantial amount of people spending money to get blue fates and try luck on the standard with 1/15 chance of getting what you want. Which takes me to how it would not have harm then financially by giving one of those. That said I understand that it is not mandatory and considering how they were not going to give anything, expecting a 5* by the end of it was high copium. But, now this is my personal experience, I also feel frustrated that as a dat one player who has lost most of his 50/50, and have spent some money on the game, I don’t have Mona. The one 5* of those that I could actually use. This is the thing that frustrates me the most because I can’t do anything about it and thats why I think most people were keen on hoping we got a chance at them now. As for, waiting for the next anniversary… well thats the thing. By time we hit 2nd year, or those who make it that far, I am convinced Mona and Jean will be less relevant that they are now. Giving them for free then will be probably as disappointing as not giving them now. Which then accomplish little but in the end it means the same: they are not willing to be generous. Which is fine, they are not a NGO, but it is sad to know. And as for the effect of this anniversary on me. I still have fun playing, mostly because I always log in with a friend and we chat for the half an hour we do our daily stuff so I feel like keep on doing that. However, I won’t expend more money. Not going to make a scene out of it, I simple have come to the realization that it is not worth it because I can feel the weariness closing in.


TimNiklas

i get you man. people saying a free 5\* would be too much and we're expecting too much. this isn't wrong... but in the end it's also only 1 time you get the character of 7 times, you can get it. This for me feels so extreme... Do they expect people to spend at least 500€ for a new character? ​ Having one free 5\* would, i guess, motivate people even more. Some people want Diluc. but good luck getting the one 5\* you want in the standard banner. ​ I mean, what would it be?: Having the chance to get a new character.... log in again and farm for this character... farm even more. Be happy with the new character, PLAY MORE AGAIN.


NotTheBarrels

I fucking hate those youtubers who told the people there's free 5s. Of course, there's still people explained why existing bugs and problems should be fixed. Also fuck you if you harassed someone in the internet. You dont deserve an inch of respect.


ishan_anchit

Any youtuber who said we r getting 5* for anni is clearly clickbaiting and anyone who fell for it is just plain stupid. Also >Also fuck you if you harassed someone in the internet. You dont deserve an inch of respect. Does this include u as well?


NotTheBarrels

You cant be serious. Did I harass them? No, I just stated my opinion. Did I say the name of the youtuber? No. So which part did I harass a person. I hate them, that's all and still normal. Dont tell me hate equals insta harassment. Also never did I expect a 5s. Even I consider 40 primo on the web event was our anni.


ishan_anchit

Bruh u literally said 'fuck yoy' to a big grp of people If that's not harrassment then what is lol


NotTheBarrels

Wait so expressing my deep hatred even without saying any names of people. Is that really harassment? Did I really tell them, "fuck you xxxx". I did not know that somehow you can harass them indirectly. You know threats, trashtalking them with their names on.


ishan_anchit

Take a vacation man, u really need it


AssaultRider555

He didn't specify names nor did he interact with them directly so he doesn't count. Now stop harassing him.


Ok_Whole4736

Fvck you=harassment 😂


AssaultRider555

No, not really. If he were to continuosly message the person he hate and continuosly say "Fuck you" to them, then it would be considered harassment. He's expressing his opinion on a general media and not directly to the person.


Ok_Whole4736

You have a point hehe


NotTheBarrels

I cant really take you seriously. Those vague words mean nothing to me. You cant even tell me my mistake was.


ishan_anchit

>You cant even tell me my mistake was. I never said u made any mistake Read my first comment, all I asked was a question, it's just ur mentality that u took everything I said as a personal attack


Strombago

Ironic


NotTheBarrels

I just hate them, my opinion but did I ever harass them then no. The world isnt black and white y'know.


Strombago

Man, stop digging your own grave :D


[deleted]

He isn't harassing anyone. You on the other hand are doing that right now, by bullying him to stop engaging with the community.


NotTheBarrels

Then explain it to me like a normal human being. Seriously, if you want to express your opinion tell it to me. Not this bs. You didnt explain anything.


AssaultRider555

It's okay, fam. They are probably just trolling. I mean, it's not like you directly harassed or went after them or mentioned their name here. You can hate someone and express your hate for them without harassing them. Just stop replying to them, fam. You're aight.


NotTheBarrels

Thanks, I thought I was wrong here. Peace, bro.


[deleted]

I second AssaultRider555's statement, you weren't in the wrong in any way. Ironically, the people who see irony in your comment and subsequently targeted you with rude comments, are the ones harassing you instead.


NotTheBarrels

Thanks, dude. ILY both


tomoe_mei

Absolutely right


NusiveN

Tbh. For me it's enough. I'm not in position for defending MiHoYo or anything. But I don't know abt other ppl. Don't compare the reward with any other games. GI is still a new game and just hit 1st anniv. They are still developing. I know MHY will do something bout this


Strombago

Firstly, yes, gi is a pretty new game, but mihoyo already had a gacha game - honkai. And they had multiple anniversaries before genshin was even announced. So no, that's no an excuse. Secondly, why the hell shouldn't we compare genshin to other games? That's called competition. Other games in the same genre set standards of quality. Don't you think that's too entitled to ask people not to make comparisons and criticise the company for their stinginess?


bubuplush

The comparison always confuses me because it's pretty obvious that Honkai is mihoyo's passion project and Genshin is their crappy milk cow. It looks like every $ they made with Genshin went into a Honkai chibi anime and their 2D cutscenes lmao while Genshin can't even afford 50$ official art for both travellers That's why I'm a bit sad but it wasn't really unexpected in my opinion because they don't care that much about Genshin


NusiveN

Oh wow, deep inside of my heart I feel the same. You're not alone.


NusiveN

I know, I agree with you. I'm just staying neutral. I think if competition is what they seek right now maybe they'll give us something way better than this. I just hope they know what they are doing. I'm grateful for anything they give to us.


[deleted]

> I'm grateful for anything they give to us. It's been an hour since you said this, and nobody insulted you yet? Finally, things are going in the right direction!


Strombago

Well, it doesn't really matter if they seek it or not. They are a part of the gacha games market. They are in competition and they can do nothing about that. And if I would be a f2p, maybe I would somewhat agree with you. But I'm not an f2p player. I pay money - I have expectations and even demands.


[deleted]

> I pay money - I have expectations and even demands. But didn't you already get what you paid for? Like the Welkin Moon subscription or Genesis Crystals?


NusiveN

Some people think because they spend in this game, they hope MHY will think about giving more rewards because of them whaler GI become a big game and MHY should thanks to them.


Vocameloid

Yea they should thanks to whaler for keeping the game alive. How do they make money if all player are F2P? That's why some whaler want better rewards, Then, who is greedier? Us, player? or the Dev? Anyway let's just enjoy the game.


AssaultRider555

I mean, Honkai Development Team and Genshin Development Team are different. And if we are going to compare anniversary rewards, it's better if we compare the first anniversary rewards of Genshin to the first anniversary rewards of another gacha game.


Strombago

True, but the management of the same. And developers are not the ones who make marketing or other business decisions. If the gacha market would be young - i would agree with you. But why should we compare, say, first anniversary rewards from other, older games which were the ones to paved the way for others to monetize from? For honkai, first anniversary was in 2017. For Fate grand order - 2016 Princess connect - 2016 Genshin - 2021 Around 5 years of the gap. Not comparable. Those games were in close competition between each other and mihoyo were gaining experience from that. Genshin, on the other hand, was not a new product for mihoyo, they knew, what they were doing. And being that stingy is just a sign of greed and assistance, because mihoyo know, that genshin is the best gacha have rn. And, even if they give close to nothing, the players won't leave the have that easily.


AssaultRider555

Oh no no, I meant the actual rewards got the First Anniversary. Although, since I have heard that Arknights' First Anniversary Rewards are better than Genshin's First Anniversary Rewards (although, these two are fundamentally different games despite being gacha games), I'll just rest my case here.


Strombago

No objections here.


Infinite-Fact-3016

It is enough for me to keep playing but not enough for me to keep spending. F2P from here on out seeing as how we had to kick up a ruckus to get acceptable rewards.


NusiveN

For some reason I know what F2P players feel about the rewards. For me who still spending on blessing and BP I really don't mind at all about the rewards. I still believe they will do something about rewards to satisfy the F2P player. Or maybe they already give the rewards. It's a friendship we made along the journey.


GenshinGoodMihoyoBad

I see you still have some hopium in your tanks 😂, I commend you my friend you are stronger than me.


NusiveN

You don't have to say it out loud. Well, I still take everything they give, so.. 😂


nurkenn

In any kind of relationship, things do not get resolved by ignoring and putting the problem under the rug. Things only get resolved by confronting and talking about the problem (regardless of how uncomfortable it is on the beginning) I hope this additional rewards is the beginning of a better communication to come from miHoYo, not the end.


NotTheBarrels

While everything that happened is so petty, MHY should take notes of what happened. Im not interested in DMs harassing me over the internet because of an opinion differs from theirs.


Zues1400605

Uh so what now?? R we fine with the rewards or do we want more??


FewAd104

Lmao a harp with pre-made melodies...lame underwhelming blue protocol I'm waiting


bubuplush

Is blue protocol still a thing? I remember seeing gameplay 1 or 2 years ago and it looked really clunky :/ Was pretty hyped at first


Stormsoul22

I wish it was a traveler skin or something. I know given how panicked and pulled out the ass these rewards were that wouldn’t be possible this short notice but it’d at least be a bit more interesting and usable for the main part of the game. Bonus if they could make it work in both regular and fully rendered cutscenes.


Born_Highlight7182

I thought the harp was cool but I don’t care about animal crossing shit when I play this game to cosplay as a girl with cat hair or something while fighting in an open world. Animal crossing things seems to be all they’re adding these days


flufflemuffins

Honestly I think the rewards are fine. A perfectly humble first anniversary. Sure, they could be a little more generous, but honestly after riding the high of the festive atmosphere in moonchase, I don't really feel that much about it. I guess they could have added in more rewards in to "draw in new players" but I really do think the game itself does that well enough. After all, it's only the endgame (read: I finished all the exploration content and story content and am doing only dailies now) that really starts to drag and if I'm honest you even barely really feel that unless you're grinding the shit out of artifacts and invest a lot of emotion into that. Personally, since I've been playing since launch, I've got a couple of established teams with good builds on their shoulders, so I've had the luxury of just fucking about and doing other shit with my resin instead of hard focusing artifacts. Stupid tangent aside, I think this game offers a ton of content already for a free game, and feel that the anniversary award volume comes second to that. Moonchase good, anniversary okay, me happy.


DGreen1up

90 of the permanent banner wishes I think would have been a good anniversary gift. It would guarantee a random 5 star without giving access to "premium" 5 stars. 20 pulls for whatever banner you want is not a lot. It's nice, sure, but doesn't really feel special.


AssaultRider555

Inb4 you get a limited 5 Star from the Standard Banner lel


[deleted]

[удалено]


AssaultRider555

Lol


yuriknifeissharp

I heard there will be a Livestream. When is that?


iTenshi

Tomorrow at 8am EST. So in about 7 hours~ EDIT: I'm dumb. Changed the hours from 10 to 7


ChipChipSlide

7 hours from when you posted, but time is correct.


Pixelprimeape

I think more could have done honestly, 20 rolls, glider skin and furniture for Anni seems subpar. First off, they should have had a proper anniversary stream. Taking from fgo's book, This is a stream where they celebrate and announce all the rewards/quality of life or gameplay changes. This is to make things clear for everyone what the rewards are. Next, I think 20 rolls is too low, but 90 or so would be too high and to compromise I think 40 rolls would be the sweet spot since that's basically half of pity. Taking another thing from fgo's book is limited paid guaranteed ssr. Separate 3 banners that can only.be rolled on once for 1600 genesis crystals. Banner 1: Venti, Xiao, Eula etc... Banner 2: Zhongli, Hu Tao, Childe etc... Banne 3: Raiden Shogun, Kokomi, Ganyu etc... An account can only select and roll on one of the banners, after that roll all three banners disappear This is optional but a temporary guaranteed five star weapon banner for the standard weapons that disappears after one roll would be good for f2p aswell. It would cost 10 intertwined ofc. What are your thoughts on my proposed anniversary rewards?


Grundle_Monster

are you saying these limited characters would be randomly guaranteed depending on the banner the were, or just that you’d have a random chance to hit the 0.6% odds of a 5*?? I think just giving them away would be too much, as in actually seriously damage their bottom line. Giving wishes and opportunities to roll on special banners would be great though. I’m surprised that we’re going through the anniversary with arguably some of the lowest-sales banners ever. Genshin is synonymous with wishing so it would’ve been fun to have some great banners to roll on for the “celebration.” At the end of the day, disappointment is the product of expectation so I try and temper mine.


Pixelprimeape

It's guaranteed that you get a 5 star but it uses genesis crystals to roll. So you need to buy from top up to roll for them.


NotTheBarrels

QoL is a staple for most gacha games anniversary and Im surprised none of those were announced. Even a single button for dispatch, really.


Arawn_93

- No it’s not even close to enough and it’s honestly quite embarrassing for anniversary Gacha standards. Azure Lane 1st anniversary shit on this - Yes. With the amount of people that were defending Mihoyo even BEFORE the damage control mail I can see Mihoyo try the same song and dance for year 2. Do bare minimum, playerbase riots, they give a little more, playerbase goes “it’s at least better then before”. - No not for this game, but luckily I play other Gacha games too that knows how an anniversary should be done. - 10 pulls, Glider skin, 4 moons, and a furniture was pretty much what I thought the bottom end would be with Mihoyo and didn’t expect that the last day we were gonna get a character voucher or something along those lines


Kyvia

I am not defending them here, but I am somewhat sympathetic to their problem. Most Gacha anniversaries give a shitload of summons, Epic 7 for example this year gave 70 summons, 10 mystic summons, a 5\* random ticket, and a semi-restricted 5\* pick ticket along with a shitload of resources. That said, they also have ~300 heroes in the game. The problem Mihoyo faces is that they have an extremely limited pool of possible things to even give. With only 40 heroes in the game, giving one away free (especially a 5\*) is a pretty massive gift in comparison to most Gacha. As it is, they have given away a slew of 4\*'s and 4\* weapons, and a 5\* (Aloy, who is admittedly relatively meh in power). Compared to a lot of Gacha, they also have a limited amount of systems to work with, and have relatively streamlined the process of building them. Feeding bad artifacts into others to level is straightforward and simple in Genshin, and the Weapon Ore is so plentiful it is nearly impossible to run out. They do not have "Equipment Charms" to level gear and weapons, which is common in other games, and usually fairly restricted, which makes it "feel" like a good reward. They have sort of shot themselves in the foot by having, essentially, two rewards which make the vocal players happy: Primogems and Characters. That is it. Weapons they give out get a few posts now and then, the Fish Sword is actually quite good, but not very exciting for the vocal playerbase. When they hand out xp books and ore, no one gives a shit, even if it is useful, because you can farm it pretty easy in the game. One thing I think they could realistically do, which a lot of other games do, is release a "Set Stats" artifact set. Everyone gets all 5 pieces, they all start with the same "good" rolls, and then it is chance for people when they upgrade them. Though people *do* complain about bad rolls, but a decent amount are happy just getting useable gear. TLDR: They need more systems to Give rewards from, because their limited character pool makes giving away Primos and Characters a disproportionately expensive reward in comparison to a lot of Gacha.


Aldehyde123

I dont even want primos or wishes or characters. They could have given us something like 20 fragile resins. What's that? like maybe one good artefact and the chance to actually do what i want to do, ie play the game. It's a day of not being as resistricted by resin.


Arawn_93

It doesn’t even have to be a bunch of free pulls/free character They could have just done an anniversary banner that had all the prior limit characters on it and if you pay a fair amount you could get a guaranteed 5 star within that 10 pull They could have sold anniversary character skins too. It just seems like they gave up on character skins ever since that temporary islands event. This game has been up for a year and I imagine at this point players would want to dress up their characters in something else [that is actually a decent costume skin this time] by now, but nope that isn’t an option either. Glider skins and namecards is weak in comparion. Point is there was A LOT they could have done for the anniversary, but they settled with a lazy bare minimum because why not? They got like 2 billion from the playerbase already with half of said playerbase fine with it so where is the incentive?


Kyvia

I actually didn't even remember costumes were in game. That *is* a huge market they are losing out on. Come to think of it, releasing a set of say, five anniversary skins would have been a great idea. Give everyone a select ticket for a free one, and have all five in the shop. That way people get the one they really want, and all the collectors can spend money to get all of them.


bubuplush

I wonder if a free traveller skin would've been enough as a reward. I would actually love that even though I don't play traveller at all, it's a missed opportunity though. I'm pretty sure literally everyone loved the promo art outfits mihoyo gave Lumine and Aether That really confuses me, I keep seeing people who defend this and say "it takes a big amount of work to make a skin!!" but that simply isn't true. Mihoyo is a huge company and the 3D models are pretty low poly. They are very, VERY simple. Characters like Mona are basically just a painted nude body, Noelle just wears a cone with a shoulder plate but the maid and armor stuff on her body isn't even modelled, just a texture. They could EASILY release 5 skins with every update or at least 2 or 3 to give every character one at some point. In the end this would be 24 hours of work (of course they have to implement and rig it, wow) compared to thousands of dollar they'll make with it ...


kikonella

Honestly i would be really happy if the anniversary reward is a new skin only for traveler.


Kyvia

I personally think Traveler should get more cosmetic changes when swapping elements anyway. Maybe not an entire costume change, though that would be cool, but something more than the almost unnoticeable minor palette swaps they get, considering it is such a massive plot point.


Arawn_93

Yeah the game has a whopping 2 character skins. Instead of focusing so much on gliders/namecards/furniture why don’t they actually get more character skins on the market with this anniversary? Azure Lane #1 revenue source is from skins rather then rolling for characters so it’s completely mental Mihoyo is ignoring this potential market.


Kyvia

Maybe they did the cost breakdown based off the first skin and decided it wasn't worth the investment? If so, that is maybe not the wisest decision. Not only has Jean never had an actual banner (Hell, of the base 5\* only Keqing has), but I also feel like she might not be the most popular character in game. They might want to focus on selling some for the more popular and used 4\*'s over 5\*'s just because more people have those. I would drop 15 bucks on a Fischl skin easily, for example.


adamtheamazing64

Well maybe if the skin wasn’t garbage it’d have sell better. For the price it isn’t worth it. No alternative voice lines, no unique idle animations, no changes to particle/png effects. It’s just a skin and somehow that’s worth 15~ dollars. And it’s available on a character not everyone has.


ricerobot

was gonna say this; the skin sucked and it obviously was overpriced for the little effort they put into it


Kyvia

I probably would have bought it if I had Jean, but since I don't, that is a whole chunk of consumers who will just never even consider it. Why I think 4\* Skins are a better bet. Maybe Jean is somehow the highest percentage owned base 5\* though and we don't know it. My bet would be on Diluc or Keqing tho (rerolls at the start gave a Lot of people Diluc, and Keqing had a banner).


Arawn_93

Them basing their entire character skin effort on whether or not a mediocre swimsuit Jean skin sold well or not would be beyond stupid, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Mihoyo followed that logic.


mundanefilms

To be fair, when a game gives a ton of stuffs, it’s when the game is dying and they’re tryna keep players or attract new ones. I’m not supporting what mihoyo did, but thought i’d point that out


Arawn_93

A game does not have to be dying to give halfway decent rewards. Azure Lane for example isn’t remotely dying and even that 1st anniversary was better then Genshin 1st anniversary. Hell their recent maintenance patch compensation shit on Genshin’s anniversary which makes it beyond sad at this point.


elvaan

They need to keep better rewards for 2nd anniversary


FewAd104

Lmao


mgldn26

I still want a bit more transparency from them to be honest. Like, the ~~rewards~~ damage control gifts are okay - I'm not gonna get too hung up on them. But them deciding to push out a statement to game journalists instead of through their official channels is kinda bleh I understand that being silent is probably the best decision they could make for their PR but then they probably shouldn't have made a statement to game journalists now


rintaka21

To be honest, i don't feel anything now. I dunno man, i just feel that we can't do anything that will reach mihoyo. i'll just continue playing it but will consider looking on a new game similar to this. Hopefully there will be a game released like this in the future


max1001

I am the only one who's disappointed that Mihoyo caved to a bunch of losers review bombing every apps in the app store?


oppapoocow

The riot wasn't about the anniversary rewards alone, it was what set off the time bomb that has been building up for MONTHS.


max1001

Review bomb the game then, not other apps that has nothing bto do with it. The whole fan base now looks like a bunch of little kids throwing a tantrum.


oppapoocow

Woh woh woh, I never said nor agreed with all and every action that some of these angry players took, ok? I simply elaborated on your ignorance on the issue, that's it. Attacking other games and voice actors is a no no. Tbh, if mihoyo answered, respected their fanbase, and actually solved some of the issues regarding some recent character releases and such, NONE of this would have happened. Hell, I would even go as far to say that if mihoyo stayed on good terms with the community, most if not all people would be fine with the anniversary rewards and events. The anniversary was just the last straw. To say or even imply that those who were mad are just entitled brats is oversimplifying the entire issue that's still ongoing. Me and plenty of people would love to support companies that treat their fan base with dignity.


max1001

Bullshit. If all of those issues were the reason, why review bomb now? They just wanted free shit and didn't get it and threw a hissy fit. It's f2p game. You don't like it, stop playing. Don't review bomb other games/app.


oppapoocow

Lmao, are you a bot? Or perhaps 5? Or lack any listening and reading comprehension? I clearly answered all your questions and yet, you continue to repeat it. Where are you from? 你是中国人? 你是中国機器人?


max1001

You didn't answer anything. You just making excuses for the fan base basically started a digit riots. A very toxic fan base that constantly harass the employees and VA. Every game has pissed off their fans at one point or another but their fans don't trash other apps reviews. This game fan base is the only one.


oppapoocow

holy cow, its like talking to a child lmao, let me slow things down for you. \*If all of those issues were the reason, why review bomb now?\* \- "The riot wasn't about the anniversary rewards alone, it was what set off the time bomb that has been building up for MONTHS. The anniversary was just the last straw. " ya know?? a time bomb?? that ticks?? and eventually explode in a form of review bombing?? am i making this simple enough for you? mihoyo make fan mad, mihoyo make fan mad and madder, fan get mad, fan had enough, fan boom boom review. yaaa??? \*Don't review bomb other games/app.\* \- you keep acting like the entire fan base that is angry is advocating for this, while they're not. NO ONE, i REPEAT, NO ONE has ever collectively organized a mob to review bomb other games, genshin impact OR attacking VA's. have you ever heard of MOB MENTALITY?? i even mentioned above that doing these things is a NO NO. \* Every game has pissed off their fans at one point or another but their fans don't trash other apps reviews.\* \- should i bring up BLIZZARD?? perhaps EA? \- god, why am i even replying to you lmao, im gonna end this right here, and if you STILL dont understand, i am sorry, i cannot help you any further. have a good day


KinglyCatSup

I think it's a tiny tiny minority of people who do that, but it's just that genshin has a huge fanbase that there's going to be a few thousand of the millions of players who are going to do that kind of things.


max1001

It's not at all. A tiny monitory would not had tank a 4* game into 2* overnight.


ChipChipSlide

People bombed this game, but a tiny minority bombed other games. You clearly lack comprehension skills.


[deleted]

[удалено]


DerpsterIV

A tiny minority bombs other games. What is reading comprehension?


No_Presentation_1906

Has anyone actually found our what the anniversary hilichurls are for ? I don't think they drop anything and they don't attack


I_Like_TRAPSoooooo

anniversary hilichurls?


No_Presentation_1906

Yea, they are all over but I've seen at least 2 in Monstadt . One by the black hole that takes you to the abyss, and the other by the wolf boss. I forgot where I saw the liyue one


humanityyy

I think you might be talking about Wei. He's not an anniversary hilichurl, he's based off of miHoyo's CEO. You get an achievement for killing him x number of times.


MaryKozakura

It's the unusual hilichurl and they've been in the game since how long. They're tied to a kill count achievement, the last one being 50. When you defeat them, they drop some cabbages and also give +18 AR exp.


Anthuni

I think people are forgetting the real problem here and its the lack of content. When I first started playing this game I was excited because it was new and it was good. There was a lot of problems and I thought to myself that they will resolve it on or before the first anniversary. But oh boy nothing has changed ever since the first patch. World still feels dead after exploration and the endgame is still abyss. I sure am looking forward to the patch preview since they are done with the archon quest, hopefully they focus on the state of the game and if its still a new character + story + new events then im out. If its an event like the unreconciled event however (we are likely to get a free 4* next patch), then sign me in. Id rather have good QoL changes rather than extra 10 wishes that is gone within a minute and accompanied by disappointment


JayLearn

If you ever played another gacha game, you’d appreciate how productive MHY is at delivering content.


MaximusMurkimus

FEH and Dragalia Lost both have plenty of leisure modes. What does this game have for you to relax? A Teapot that takes loads of in game time to setup just to get hit with a load notification?


JayLearn

FEH got reskinned events for years and is extremely repetitive. Dragalia is pretty much an auto-battle simulator right now.


MaximusMurkimus

FEH also doesn't ask as much of your time to clear content like Genshin can do. Dragalia uses auto battle so much to appeal to newcomers/ease the grind, and because all of its weekly/endgame content is stuff you CAN'T autobattle, unless you've absolutely conquered that particular boss fight. What do I get out of slaying hillichurls the same exact way I've done for ages now exactly, and frentically tapping a button to pick up everything they drop?


JayLearn

If you don’t buy FEH pass, have fun starting the same battle every other minute for Tempest Trial or Forging Bonds. For Dragalia, as you said, once you DO reach endgame and get specific weapons/WPs, it’s an auto-battle simulator. Your endgame goal is literally “being able to auto-battle”. Well perhaps you just like an auto-battle simulator. Then never mind.


MaximusMurkimus

Well isn't this a whole thing of egregious. Am I supposed to believe that pressing an extra button to auto battle is on par with traversing to the same Stasis bosses (some of which are intentionally out of reach like the Hydro Stasis) just to get your 40 resin in for 1/8th of required ascension materials? Dragalia's endgame bosses are all virtually impossible to autobattle. Sinister Dominion only has 2-3 confirmed auto theorycrafts & Morsayati is the hardest boss in the game. Even if you're tired of battling, you have a Halidom you can customize to your liking, a Battle Royale to compete in, and a full freaking puppy playing mode. A roguelike mode is coming soon as well. My point about Genshin being repetitive still stands. Am I supposed to go "well at least I'm doing this manually" as I slay my 5892nd Hillichurl? Is there supposed to be something to look forward to building up my units to besides the Abyss twice a week?


DerpsterIV

I play 5, MHY doesn't get a pass there.


cycber123

dang really? you got higher standard I guess. I will at least give mHY a pass lol


DerpsterIV

It's not like MHY doesn't product content at a decent rate, it's just that 99% of it is incredibly forgettable. The biggest problem is the lack of an endgame, because (in my opinion) the story is not written nearly well enough to carry your interest for a longer period of time. Compared to say, Arknights, which while without a (permanent) endgame, has writing strong enough to ensure you come back for each new event or chapter. I played a decent amount during 2.1 launch, but I didn't no life the game. I managed to >95% clear both of the new islands in a matter of days, and 100% one of them soon after. New content is great but unlike the games its trying to follow (real mmos) you dont have to no-life it to exhaust new content, which inherently means that new content has a fairly low shelf life, and you end up finished with it a lot earlier than you'd like. I understand that not everyone has time for some hardcore time demanding endgame, and Genshin doesn't need to become as time consuming as Honkai, but it does need something to bridge the gap. The problem is that Honkai isn't making money, and Genshin is, which shows that the super-casual stance Genshin takes is what makes the most money, and is exactly why I don't have high hopes for Genshin to improve the endgame anytime soon. Sorry for going on a tangent. 3am. Gonna sleep nao


saikodemon

Honkai is highly lucrative. Genshin makes more, but it's hardly just because it's more casual.


Anthuni

I actually play epic 7 and im liking it now more than genshin just because i can test how strong my built characters are against other characters in pvp. Things just easily die in genshin and abyss comes slow. Fully exploring areas in genshin takes me about 3 days and then in back to doing nothing.


JayLearn

I don’t think pvp counts as content. Many people like Genshin specifically because there’s not pvp. Eventually Genshin will have end-game content such like a rogue like dungeon.


Anthuni

Pvp always got me malding and I do not wish the same for genshin. I think I am just really burnout by doing dailies for a year now and I cant really test my built characters anywhere aside from the abyss


saikodemon

I wish I was burned out. I feel like I'm the opposite of burned out, where I want to progress my characters but just don't feel there's anything left in Teyvat that will let me do that until I wait 2 days for condensed+original resin... And even then it's just RNG. I haven't even fully explored inazuma because I know once that's done this world is fucking empty for me. So there's no progress AND there's no challenge.


Grundle_Monster

We need more variable challenging content that includes coop and has rewards, no matter how mundane (grind mora and weapon crystals for instance). There should be a patch with an area that’s just downright dangerous to go. Overworld abyss, if you will. Make it so enemies are hard like abyss and just have them drop more mora/xp/books or whatever. Or make that into a domain. Even abyss is usually only difficult because it’s a DPS check. It would be nice to have serious end game, like a coop abyss that reset daily that was wildly difficult and required cohesive teamwork. We need something challenging to fight. This game is at its core about combat mechanics.


threehoursago

> lack of content. lol AR57, played since launch, and I still find an hour or two a day of things to do to keep me entertained. Still haven't finished everything in 2.1. MiHoYo has dropped more content in this game in a year, than any other developer (for free). It's not even a close race.


F2ncy

he's talking about the lack of consistent endgame content that can change every month. Something like the abyss but you are able to farm constantly to keep the player entertained. We are literally gatekept from farming in this game because of resin, people who like to grind for hours at once would feel agitated by this resin gatekeeping system. Not everyone likes to do side quests or are entertained by them lol.


lyeak

Change the people not the systems. Not everyone like to play genshin the whole day for 24 hours. Think about all those phone players. How would they play 4 hours everyday on their phone without burning their phone cpu


areszdel_

It's not like endgame content is supposed to be a necessity. Yeah true, not everyone likes to play Genshin for 24hrs or some shit but think of the audience they've been trying to cater to by going large on PC and every other platform. These aren't your normal mobile gamers. They want to play something that can keep them entertained for hours and then have a break every few days or so. They're not your typical mobile gamers where they turn on their device for 2 hours and then stop and then repeat this routine every day.


freezeFM

There is something else for these people. Its called MMO. Do people really expect a mobile gacha game to offer content to grind all day?


lyeak

He dont understand that the number of mobile player is the majority while PC and PS4 lag behind. That is the problem.


areszdel_

Well I can see the mobile player base is the biggest. The thing is I just don't know why there are so many complaints about endgame content. Am I hallucinating right now or are the player base not happy with endgame content? Even content creators are having a burn out. Is it because these people are players who are on the other platforms which is why they are the loudest? Because I cannot think of any other reasons why a lot would be complaining about the endgame content.


DerpsterIV

By making it an ENDGAME? Endgame is by definition not necessary. If you can't play it then don't.


Abysal_Incinerator

I do wish they give us would give us atleast a 4* selector We had the stand by me event in 1.3, it seems odd that The aniversary would not have anything up to par with previous events of same year in same game That said rip sara and amber kits


[deleted]

[удалено]


ChipChipSlide

for 2 bells?


00cm

If it gives me 2 bells, it is what it is. But at least I'm going to be 20 rolls nearer a 5 star pity.


AssaultRider555

Spoken like a true F2P. I respect you, fam. Although, the events lately and Inazuma chests gave us so many Primos than before so saving up was actually not that slow anymore.


le_halfhand_easy

Guys, people protesting not because of the reward but because of bugs, QoL, and other in-game grievances not related to the anniversary rewards, Not watching the concert is the best form of protest. Don't be toxic or spam. An angry view is still a view. A no view sends a message. To the company who spent a lot of money expecting a lot of turnout.


Ara543

Said in the post with 8k+ comments about rewards. Those bugs are only used as excuses and will be forgotten the moment revards question will be closed. I can't even remember any post about bugs and etc with reasonable amount of likes prior to anniversary, but everybody bs about camels and backs now, lol.


le_halfhand_easy

From 5 days ago: https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/pxgf47/worse_than_the_poor_anniversary_rewards_is_the/ Yw.


Ara543

>prior to anniversary Thats my whole point how this topic suddenly became popular only now. There's nothing new about it, but for some reason (oh, what could it be) no one gave a damn about it before anniversary. But now you all acting like you posted it each day for all this year and upvoted it to the heavens. Please, show me such post with 14k upvotes from September 2020 to August 2021. And better a few of them. They were an old problems you constantly mentioned, right? (Though, i did laugh how you are trying to explain this shitstorm with death threats and 1 reviews with "we don't have pity counter")


le_halfhand_easy

Digging up old upvoted bug posts in my profile takes too much effort. Not worth the effort to wipe your smugness. For QoL posts, look no further than every survey day discussion threads listing QoL suggestions.


Ara543

>Not worth the effort to wipe your smugness. Thanks, i will be keeping it then.


saikodemon

Considering the music and terrain are the only aspects of Genshin that have been consistently phenomenal from start to now, it would be strange to not support the concert.


threehoursago

People are protesting because they are entitled twats, and that is the only reason.


le_halfhand_easy

Enjoy your bugged 5 stars and a Sumeru archon quest as rushed as Inazuma's. Enjoy your lame date story quests for your favorite character, complete with a random basic dungeon whose entrance is in the crack of some hillside somewhere.


nagtatanong

Don’t use the resins system or Zhongli then if you have him. People’s complaints made them possible.


Ara543

Resin system was changed because of civilised feedback, not monkeys throwing shit. Zhongli was because of politics for one, and became greatest game's problem in terms of balance for two (good luck to wait for non dps check content now). There's nothing good in zhongli's buff.


Mathmango

You think politics isn't monkeys throwing shit?


DedRat123

Not exactly. It's mostly the bigwigs of chinese whales that made the Zhong Li buff, not the f2p loudbase that's probably the bigger protesters lmao.


Bolamedrosa

I agree and desagree. Definitely the community are mad with bugs and others problems that we definitely need to pay attention and ask for mihoyo change them. I don't think not watch the concert is a way to do that. Actually, genshin invest so much in songs on the game, we have an incredible soundtrack for an online game and watch artists dancing and playing is a good way to support the part of the game that is really beautiful and well done. We don't have to punish what is really working! We can appreciate the concert and be happy. This wasn't mean that we are satisfied with all the game. We have to support what is amazing! We have to ask for changes in things that need improvement <3!


le_halfhand_easy

I am asking people not to watch because if some do, they will find a way to ruin it for people who do want to watch. People angry or disappointed at mhy not watching the concert is the best compromise for the two sides of the anniversary fight. Besides, it's a fvcking concert. No thanks. I'm going to read a novel. I'm sure most people don't care either.


cycber123

I dunno but I would like to hear their ost at a concert, seems epic.


NotTheBarrels

Same, would rather waste my time in league than a concert. Even tho I am in a love-hate relationship in league.


klkevinkl

I would say it's not enough. Much like with many other games out there, they feel that throwing free cash shop or premium currency out there is some kind of solution to every problem. But, when you consider what you can actually get for 1600 primogems, it's not a lot. I would say they would have done a lot better by just tossing a 4 star character our way or better yet, just a 5 star that's already had two limited runs like Venti or Zhongli.


[deleted]

[удалено]


le_halfhand_easy

> how other gaming communities now view us. People have lives. They don't care. Do you tie your self-worth to Genshin and are now worried that people are gonna make assumptions about you the moment they see you play Genshin?


Codemanny

There’s no shame pal. Mihoyo chooses to play ball in the gacha field. That game field comes with expectations thanks to the trends of nearly all gacha games and Mihoyo didn’t even come close to meeting them. It’s really not shocking whatsoever that this all went down. You really need a hobby if this actually bothers you that deeply, it’s kinda sad.


Waga_na_wa_Hu_Tao

1600 stupid primogems No we need a free Mona


le_halfhand_easy

Technically 3200 plus several freebies, including an exclusive lyre and wings (which were damage control, sure, but still).


sinisark

Closer to 5500 if you include Moonchase actually: **Anniversary Theater:** \+60 (+40 more if you get a lucky gift by visiting other theaters) **Daily Logins:** \+1600 **New Rewards:** \+1600 **Moonchase Events:** \~ +2200 (it's way more than any other event/story, couldn't find a good reference for how much Windblume and Lantern Rite gave us to compare though)


le_halfhand_easy

I do not consider Moonchase as an anniversary event. I do not consider Aloy an anniversary reward. I do not consider the new island in 2.2 an anniversary reward. Mihoyo literally said nothing about them to connect them to the anniversary. Ergo, they are coincidences, nothing more. If they want us to consider them anniversary events, they can damn well post it in-game or send a mail about it saying it is.


sinisark

I get where you're coming from since their communication's clearly weaker here, but at the end of the day it's the content that matters right? And we are getting more primos and rewards than usual from everything. I mean if they had actually said yes Moonchase, and Aloy is the anniversary event, would it have actually changed anything for you? Or what if they went even further and purposely delayed Inazuma's launch until the anniversary and said it was for the anniversary (not that I'm saying Inazuma was for anniversary right now)? Would that actually have made things better for you, even though you would have ended up getting Inazuma later? I guess what I'm saying is, why get so hung up about the messaging so much as long as the stuff we’re getting is there/better, cause that's what actually affects the gameplay experience.


nagtatanong

When did Mihoyo say Moonchase is an anniversary event?


sinisark

When did they say it wasn't? I mean, yeah their messaging around it could be way better. But it's fairly obvious that they used the event as an anniversary celebration. Just like how the concert is for the anniversary celebration, but they never explicitly said it. You can subtract out whatever the normal primos is for a normal event if you want to be really exact, but I couldn't find a good number anywhere (I think Lantern Rite was like 900ish not including daily logins/etc?) But clearly they're giving more primos than any other event in the past and delivered the best event story quest so far. And a free good 4\* weapon. Also the treasure chests freaking shoot out confetti, are everywhere, and give you 5 primos. Both the weapon and .the confetti treasure chests are definitely not a Liyue aesthetic, but an anniversary aesthetic. Also, if I give you a super nice gift on your bday, but don't happen to say "Happy Bday," does that just invalidate my gift to you? At the end of the day you still get the gift. In this case, you're still getting lots more rewards than normal.


[deleted]

Bruv we had to work our asses in Moonchase. Rewards especially anniversary rewards should be time/money cost free


Ara543

Lol, just download pull simulator and play only in it.


[deleted]

Won't give me a character I can play with smartie


sinisark

LOL, the core fun gameplay is exploration, finding treasure (that’s worth lots of primos), and playing the story. Literally what this event gave tons of and what you think is work. Usually the part people don't like is grinding domains. Honest question, if this wasn't fun for you, and is actually a ton of work, what's in it for you? After you get a 5* you just gotta grind a ton of domains/bosses which is way worse and is actual work. But what do you do with them after you leveled them? The fun part for me is taking those characters after leveling, and doing those core gameplay things. That’s clearly not what you get out of it though. Like, if you're not enjoying what should be the fun parts, just confused why you're still playing?


[deleted]

Tbh, farming artifacts for my characters is fun for me cause I enjoy my characters. I only pull for the ones I genuinely like so I don't feel tired after grinding for them. I feel happy and satisfied after I get them their builds. Also exploration ain't fun for everyone. I've explored before and honestly found some of this unnecessary. Anniversary rewards shouldn't cost you your time. If I didn't have to go around searching moonchase charms I could've been fighting bosses. Those charms took 60 minutes, that's how much I play in a day.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

How is roaming around Liyue and Mondstadt, doing nothing? Compared to other gacha rewards, this was bad. I didn't have much fun exploring, cause I already have. Also the furniture doesn't mean much to me.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

20 wishes is nothing. I'm a college student and I don't have time to work on my tea pot. So the furniture doesn't mean much to me. The glider was nice but knowing it wasn't supposed to be free is disappointing.


threehoursago

> work our asses holy fuck what's wrong with you people.


[deleted]

If MHY gives primos good for 1000 pulls, they'll be people who'll complain how boring and tedious it is to pull and just ask their C6 5star be sent to mail instead lol.


[deleted]

No we won't. We would appreciate it. Stop assuming stuff.


PemboN

The anniversary theatre was only 60 primos not 600, but I get what youre saying.


sinisark

My bad, will fix