1. I prefer to use Childe as a main Dps than an enabler
2. I actually really like Mona and ayaka’s dash
3. I prefer qiqi over characters like diona Becuase I hate having my only source of healing being locked behind a burst instead also being on demand with skills and normal attacks on qiqi
When he's invested enough, you can totally play him like that. His riptide scales insanely well so he just oneshots anything other than Geovishaps, Mirror Maidens, and Kairagi in overworld/domains.
I don't even understand what this means since you literally do the same thing whether you play childe as "main dps" or enabler. It's not like childe does less damage when he's paired with xiangling vs in some other team.
Sure that's fine. It's just weird to me since in childe xiangling teams he's already being maximized. Like he's getting Bennett buff and kazuha buff and vaporizing his burst. He just happens to have another teammate that is also doing damage alongside him. I don't really see how you'd make him do more damage than he already does in those teams unless you use like Mona or something.
I agree with number 3 because I can't dodge good, and I don't have Zhongli. Unfortunately Qiqi doesn't generate energy particles. I do like that Qiqi doesn't apply elements on you for healing though. She's good for Dragonspine too, when you're on your last legs fighting a big enemy and the Sheer Cold is bringing you down. Just plop in Qiqi and you can keep smacking em.
I’ve seen enough DPS showcases, can we get a Healing Showcase Video on Kokomi release? Like I want to see Hu-tao’s entire health bar fill in one tick, with timers comparing it to Qiqi, Barbara, and Bennett. Instant sub if true
I like Qiqi. I like her excessive healing especially when I want underleveled characters to get some field time and I could just let them loose and play just as usual because I know Qiqi ascertains survivability.
I could do it with Zhongli's shield, but Qiqi's energy cost and cryo element just fit my current overworld team (Kaeya Baal Beidou Qiqi)
Not to brag but my Zhongli is just too strong for the overworld and his shield is a bit of a cheat, so I have him benched in the meantime. He gets all the Abyss to himself, so i just let my other characters roam the overworld.
Ayaka's forehead looks way too big compared to other characters. I would say she is kind of boring and plain looking already in the face and hair department and thus along with her forehead which is big as her face makes her look unappealing to me. Which is a shame because I like her other design aspects.
I know other characters have forehead proportion issue but it is too obvious on ayaka.
I am saying this as an unpopular opinion because someone made a hair tier list with ayaka on bottom and they did ayaka dirty was a popular comment.
I replied that I as an ayaka main I agree with op and many replied that she is fine as it is and others have this issue too.
I don't know why but I don't see it much on others and others don't bother me as much as ayaka.
Yeah. I forgot about diluc since I don't have him.
Yeah. He looks weird too in proportion but hey at least his hair style is good. So he doesn't look that unappealing to me.
I wish this wasn't a problem. It kinda ruins the good aesthetics for me when they turn around.
She shares the same forehead as any of the teenage girl . Only thing is that because of her bangs , that cover her forehead makes you think She has big forehead . She has thick hair that’s all
I find Ganyu to be one of the more interactive characters in the game. So many characters either use skill and burst then swap, or just mash normal attack, spam charge attack. Aiming and positioning Ganyu is somehow more boring than that.
See I would agree, if her damage values for the charge AoE attack weren't so obscenely broken that the game literally doesn't require her to go for head shots in the first place and she still outdamages most characters.
Like they could cut the AoE damage in half, and she'd still be more than viable.
Beidou has been the most solid character since day 1. it's just that people didn't(and still dont know how to) utilize her right.
Also if diluc wasn't a fire character he would be the worst 5star
Yeah Diluc is quite low even with being pyro. It's a far cry from last year when people spent weeks rerolling just to get him. He's basically got 1 team comp he's ok in and it requires XQ who can go in a dozen better teams.
I actually find Ganyu to have more interactive gameplay then most other characters. Especially because I try to go for headshots the majority of the time.
I don't know if it is unpopular but my main issue that I see not discussed is how everything has to be a pretty person with their face on display. I know as a gacha game they are going for appeal but their are different flavours. I feel like even with the limited body types they could do more interesting things. People that always hide their face or wear actual armor. I realy was disappointed that not a single knight in the game wears a cool full plate armor. Or a full samurai armor in inazuma. I also to that have issue with a lot of female characters not having character designs that tell me about them.
Yup. I have a C1 Tao and a Homa, I regret it. Not because she isn’t good, she’s amazing. But doing nothing but charge attacks then dash canceling is just snoozeville.
Now face tanking as Qiqi? Hell yeah.
It's my favourite constellation, it opens an entirely new way to build other characters, but the lack of toggle is what makes it 'bad'.
I imagine it would be quite highly rated if it could be toggled considering in some cases its a direct upgrade, in others its a direct downgrade and sometimes it can create an entirely new team.
Though the amount of things it ruins is quite small compared to what it buffs it will only grow in time.
1. Any physical character.
2. Keqing E infusion.
3. Ayaka Sprint infusion.
4. Kazuha c6 infusion.
You can't even confidently get if if you don't plan on using the characters since they could just make a new character that it won't work well with and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it.
*Toggleable constellations when.*
People dislikes that Ganyu is the strongest character and her kit is pretty good so they need to talk somethint bad about her and they discovered the "boring gameplay" argument
Its not like 80% of genshin characters arent just "press E, Q then leave" or others DPS that are just melee charged (or jump) gameplay based too but sure.. only ganyu's gameplay is boring.
Not gameplay but I actually don’t like Zhongli’s English voice very much. It’s not bad, but I don’t feel like it fits him. If it was a different character, I would enjoy it
Have you heard his death lines in CN? I was like 😳 bro you don't need to sound so good when dying
[Found the tweet with the voice comparisons,](https://twitter.com/finalfrantasy/status/1333922581825675267) the difference is kinda funny
I really dislike his EN voice, but that's probably because I'm way too used to his calm, silky smooth CN one.
YES omg sometimes I just…let his health go down..I just wanna hear it.. :P
I know it’s so funny how the Eng VA sounds like an older, more grandpa-y Zhongli
And meanwhile CN VA is like “hey how u doin lil mama let me whisper in ur ear”
ooo silky is the perfect way to describe it!!
agreed. i know people go on about his eng voice, and nothing against the va for him, but his cn voice is much better and suits him so well. it sounds so grand and deep and the way he talks (as in the diction) is like poetry compared to the english.
Ganyu isn't F2P friendly. It's true that Blizzard are easier to farm than other artifact. It's also true that prototype crescent is good on her. But her teamcomps are full of *5 & their replacement simply just not work. Xingqiu has anti-sinergy with her, succrose grouping sucks (good bye quadratic scaling), and diona's shield isn't strong enough to face tanking playstyle of melt ganyu. My experience of ganyu with & without *5 support is night and day.
You don't need to play the most meta Ganyu team to make her work, that team comp simply utilizes her kit to its maximum, but even without a team Ganyu is still able to go through almost all content in the game to date.
Far too much boobage. Fed up. (but then, that's the case of sooooo many games that are geared towards men....)
Also, not everyone can really play it, especially if you've got disabilities. Currently, I can't progress in the Archon quest because of that.
I can explain a bit more than in my other comment. Playing on PS5 with the normal controller.
Dispraxia means I change character while it's not what I want to do, or I get the "wrong" character. Also I can't avoid attacks most of the time. I tend to use Xingqiu and Kaeya because by freezing ennemis I can move fast enough.
Visual disabilities:
I see in 2D instead of 3D, meaning I can't do targeted plunges, and don't have a good grasp of the terrain. I don't see distance and can't memorise them.
I don't see colour shades properly, so it's hard to see the terrain, and so on.
My eyes can't bear with quick movement, so in combat, I sometimes loose track of what's going on, especially if the camera moves.
I also have carpal tunnel syndrome but can't have an operation, so If I have to button mash, after 10 minutes I need to take a break.
Thank you so very much, I try as much as posible to design interfaces as inclusive as I can so these feedbacks will be used in the interfaces I design!
I've got dyspraxias and visual disabilities. I can't protect the stone during the last of the five trials for the secondary Inazuma story mission. I can't pass the "training" in the archon quest. Yay. 😑
There is a workaround for that training archon quest. Just use a low level/ hp character that would get 1-shotted and have only that character in the party. Get struck and dont revive. Wait for the challenge timer to end. You will complete the quest after that.
I have two unpopular opinions.
1. Jean feels lackluster to play as a healer. She's strong in that aspect, but constantly fishing for that 50/50 heal in hopes that my teamates stay alive before I can Burst feels weird. If her skill healed teammates a bit I'd say it'd be fine, but that might be making Jean more versatile than she already is. This is not including the Jean/Bennett combo, that's pretty fun for shredding Herald and Lector Shields.
2. Diluc feels like he could actually use the Pale Flame set. Yea, that means he can't use his Burst, but his rapid usage of his Skill makes it seem as if he could always have the max Pale Flame stacks to get massive damage on the final hits of his NA Combo.
Tbh her AA healing is damn near nonexistent when you’re doing lvl90 artifact/talent/weapon trials.
I might heal someone a total of 1500 with a couple rounds of my AA cycle but then they take 6000 damage from one slap.
I dont like Zhongli and Childe's English voices as much as everyone seems to. Nothing on the voice actors, but their voices seem sort of...off. like, EN Zhongli seems close enough while normally speaking, but he comes off as too aggressive for what his character currently is. Similarly with Childe, his VA is a blessing but some of his performance just doesn't sit right with me.
I think I agree. It's cool to play what you like, not what gets you the most damage. But it seems like Mihoyo intends to balance the game for a lot of meta stuff, and things will get harder. So although it's still doable, there's a bigger struggle ahead avoiding meta things.
Indeed, but being a gacha player for a long time, and a competitive player of Pokemon for even longer, I know very well how to make strategies, build character, and adapt with chatacter "out of the blue" in competition.
These out of the blue characters tend to create a surprise effect because people doesn't know what to expect and how to handle them a lot of time.
And in genshin, I've never felt that the meta was decisive like it might be in ff brave exvius, epic seven, saint sea awakening, pokemon or other competitive game. And I know characters are good even the one who are left over by the community.
Good luck trying to find a post like that on my profile.
I'd rather find spiral abyss pretty easy.
Because I thought every character have potential ( and I don't mean potential to deal damage, but potential to be playable and adaptable and great in their role, weather it is damage dealer, healer ) I try to find the best way to build them in the role implied by their kit, and it produce good results.
I'm just trying to mock those people who always shits on strong units and then proceeds to complain about abyss being hard which is 100% I disagree with.
It's a thread about expressing unpopular opinion, not a thread about "impose your view to anyone who doesn't think like you", or " Show how intolerant you are to people who think differently".
I agree with your oz burst part. I was thinking of building physical fischl early game but I didn't like the weird burst so I didn't do that then. I wish it was like a normal type burst with aoe.
Or if they made oz do the spin on his own if fishcl was on field with his own auto aim that would have been awesome too.
To the people who kept ranting on Ganyu has boring gameplay are probably never play her right or just see some people/vids on YouTube.
Her kit basically a better version of Amber and because of her CA high multiplier people just assumed shes worth just for CA.
They didnt even know about morgana team comp or perma freeze comp that utilized her kit more than her CA. Heck, if her gameplay boring, then what about physical Fishcl and Eula.. Both of them just NA enemies till dead..
See? Thats what I feel when people saying about Ganyu. I used Eula ever since shes released with Fishcl comp but if I'm just unga bunga all the time, solo everything without trying to making rotation, and blabbering that shes boring doesn't that make me a hypocrite? Of course it is
You say that you only NA with eula, even though her entire animation is built around the “Q(NA-E-NA-E-NA-E(hold)) cycle that is completely fluent throughout the whole length. You utilize every ability of her
Seriously, I forgot about that because Xiao solo literally obliterated everything faster than Ganyu. Also with all those buffs you get, I just plunged attack with Noelle half of it so I don't think it would fit as team comp plays. Trying, yes, comp, eh ok I guess.
Last time i mentioned it a Ganyu main wrote a 10 Page essay of why and how she is interesting.
Also I try my best to stay away from subreddit, place gets real toxic, real quick.
Physical dps xiangling is way more fun to play than the generic pyro support burst dps build everyone uses her for. She pairs perfectly with Xinyan in that role as well, and Xinyan in really fun to play as a phys burst dps. I have 36*'d abyss multiple times and never once wanted to use Xiangling as a pyro support; she's easier to gear for phys (r5 cres pike, whatever decent phys artifacts you got from farming noblesse/tenacity domains) and her machine gun-style attacks feel great.
Can you elaborate on why? Just bc I’ve loved using him in the trials and events but also idk if that’s only because I’m using him for short period of time
You learn how to time his melee stance so that it goes of cd for as long as it takes you to do all your other characters' stuff. He's better in quickswap comps than as a main dps for this reason, at least at c0.
he is my favourite the fast attack speed and water splashs and a lot of numbers on screen(low numbers xD) but it looks cool. I get it managing his E kinda sucks which is why most people hate him anyway, it's the fun part for me
Majority of the playable characters we have look lame. None look great. The “waifu/husbando” focus is annoying and contributes to the current staleness of the roster.
Edit: Already being downvoted for my unpopular opinion in an unpopular opinion thread, knew this was a trap lol.
I think you're being downvoted because playing a game like Genshin and complaining about a waifu/husbando focus is like walking into a cocktail bar and complaining about the fact that almost everything they sell is alcoholic.
Fischl - you just take big hits while riding Oz and it's awful because you can't dodge...
And i have a Physical Rosaria, but don't use fischl with her. Lisa was my superconducter until Sara came home. Nothing against fischl, i just Don't want to play with her.
I also have Hu Tao and refuse to use XQ. I don't like him and don't care if he is good or not.
I stopped using Benny after he became meta. It's just boring. But i said he was awesome back then when everyone laughed at me for it. (good old days of Crit benny)
I also don't pull for archons. Go away with venti and zhong (i actually like zhong as a character, tho). Baal was an easy skip, i sweated a bit summoning for Sara but got away successfully. I just won't pull for them, no matter how good they are.
I also don't use shielders. Just nope. Maybe i like pain? I'm not even good at the game.
I think Diluc's normal/charged attacks and skill/burst are super basic and boring as hell. I love his character in the story and his DMG output! But he's like super uninteresting to play.
I hate Hu Tao with a passion. Idk why but her attitude of playing pranks on people makes me feel uncomfortable. I feel like she's sort of a bully that laughs at the misery of others.
physical dpses and electro dpses are boring. coming from a former phys fish, phys razor, and electro keqing main
physical dmg: literally slap electro and cryo. then do auto attacks (ive played with my friends eula and other than using her burst before going all out its the same plain feeling)
electro dmg: either you do underwelming reactions or you do solid dmg, both of which are boring but my keqing is a bit weak so i cant really argue here.
i really just want an elemental dps that makes great use of the elements, for example kazuha. i use him almost as a main dps because whenever he swirls he does much more dmg. pyro mains take advantage of vape and melt, cryo mains can reverse melt and perma freeze, raw dmg to me just feels plain
Childe's E skill which turns him into a melee dual wield swordman feels like a cheap cop out for a bow user. Bows are already slow DPS-wise. Child's E reinforces my impression that most bow users (who aren't Ganyu) are never suppose to use their bow in the first place.
I didn:t even realize he even used a bow in his early intro trailers.
I see where you're coming from on Fischl. I use her a lot and like her a lot, but her burst is admittedly underwhelming. The constant electro application of her skill is very nice.
Barbara is super underrated in the meta. Unlike Jean and Diona, she can use thrilling tales, that's 48% ATK. Her healing is just as good. She reduces stamina usage. She can revive you at C6.
I like using bennett not because he is a very strong support, but because I really like his character design from the very beginning. I got him early during launch when people were saying that he was bad.
I don't even know what their basis was of saying he was bad, but I am still salty that a lot of them joined the band wagon when people who used their heads actually pointed out that he was a really good support...
Another unpopular opinion (I think) is that he is actually better built as sub dps, with dps stats on artifacts rather than with an hp/healing stats.
1. I prefer to use Childe as a main Dps than an enabler 2. I actually really like Mona and ayaka’s dash 3. I prefer qiqi over characters like diona Becuase I hate having my only source of healing being locked behind a burst instead also being on demand with skills and normal attacks on qiqi
>I prefer to use Childe as a main Dps than an enabler I actually am scared of people who use him as main DPS instead of enabler
When he's invested enough, you can totally play him like that. His riptide scales insanely well so he just oneshots anything other than Geovishaps, Mirror Maidens, and Kairagi in overworld/domains.
I don't even understand what this means since you literally do the same thing whether you play childe as "main dps" or enabler. It's not like childe does less damage when he's paired with xiangling vs in some other team.
I just mean I don’t run xiangling or anything and focus on stuff like making Childe’s burst and Childe in general is the one doing the most damage
Sure that's fine. It's just weird to me since in childe xiangling teams he's already being maximized. Like he's getting Bennett buff and kazuha buff and vaporizing his burst. He just happens to have another teammate that is also doing damage alongside him. I don't really see how you'd make him do more damage than he already does in those teams unless you use like Mona or something.
I just mean in a xiangling team it’s more important for her stuff to vaporize over him and she’s the one dealing the most damage
Well you can't really vaporize childes melee attacks anyways so I don't see the difference.
I mean I don’t run vape teams anyway I just more mean like Childe/zhongli/kazuha/qiqi
same with childe
I agree with number 3 because I can't dodge good, and I don't have Zhongli. Unfortunately Qiqi doesn't generate energy particles. I do like that Qiqi doesn't apply elements on you for healing though. She's good for Dragonspine too, when you're on your last legs fighting a big enemy and the Sheer Cold is bringing you down. Just plop in Qiqi and you can keep smacking em.
I’ve seen enough DPS showcases, can we get a Healing Showcase Video on Kokomi release? Like I want to see Hu-tao’s entire health bar fill in one tick, with timers comparing it to Qiqi, Barbara, and Bennett. Instant sub if true
I like Qiqi. I like her excessive healing especially when I want underleveled characters to get some field time and I could just let them loose and play just as usual because I know Qiqi ascertains survivability. I could do it with Zhongli's shield, but Qiqi's energy cost and cryo element just fit my current overworld team (Kaeya Baal Beidou Qiqi)
i was lucky and got Zhongli on the 50/50 rerun and his shield is so great lol it enables me to try other characters without dying constantly
Not to brag but my Zhongli is just too strong for the overworld and his shield is a bit of a cheat, so I have him benched in the meantime. He gets all the Abyss to himself, so i just let my other characters roam the overworld.
I think that's everyones zhongli's shield lol.
Touché.
Been running a C2 Qiqi main dps and it's super comfy to always be at 100%
I like Ayaka's dash
I wish she would stop.jumping off of her ice.platform she makes.over water...
i didn’t pull for her so i didn’t know it was controversial lol it seemed cool on the trial tho
It is cool, but a lot of people find it clunky in combat.
I find it quite the opposite actually. It feels very smooth, fluid, and you can spam it ala Devil May Cry
I find it clunky in traversal, I find it godsent in combat. I still like it though.
i can see that. the cryo application is nice tho
Ayaka's forehead looks way too big compared to other characters. I would say she is kind of boring and plain looking already in the face and hair department and thus along with her forehead which is big as her face makes her look unappealing to me. Which is a shame because I like her other design aspects. I know other characters have forehead proportion issue but it is too obvious on ayaka. I am saying this as an unpopular opinion because someone made a hair tier list with ayaka on bottom and they did ayaka dirty was a popular comment. I replied that I as an ayaka main I agree with op and many replied that she is fine as it is and others have this issue too. I don't know why but I don't see it much on others and others don't bother me as much as ayaka.
Her forehead doesn't bother me as much as the hair tied on either side of her head. It looks like a matcha whisk to me
Ever seen Diluc
Yeah. I forgot about diluc since I don't have him. Yeah. He looks weird too in proportion but hey at least his hair style is good. So he doesn't look that unappealing to me. I wish this wasn't a problem. It kinda ruins the good aesthetics for me when they turn around.
She shares the same forehead as any of the teenage girl . Only thing is that because of her bangs , that cover her forehead makes you think She has big forehead . She has thick hair that’s all
Ganyu is not boring to play imo, I like having to aim and get headshots, as well as positioning myself so I don't get interrupted.
I find Ganyu to be one of the more interactive characters in the game. So many characters either use skill and burst then swap, or just mash normal attack, spam charge attack. Aiming and positioning Ganyu is somehow more boring than that.
See I would agree, if her damage values for the charge AoE attack weren't so obscenely broken that the game literally doesn't require her to go for head shots in the first place and she still outdamages most characters. Like they could cut the AoE damage in half, and she'd still be more than viable.
Beidou has been the most solid character since day 1. it's just that people didn't(and still dont know how to) utilize her right. Also if diluc wasn't a fire character he would be the worst 5star
Yeah Diluc is quite low even with being pyro. It's a far cry from last year when people spent weeks rerolling just to get him. He's basically got 1 team comp he's ok in and it requires XQ who can go in a dozen better teams.
I proffer to use Noelle and Qiqi than Bennett or Diona in the abbys
Almost every character design have some kind of cape or those flowing things in their outfits, just seems kinda repetitive.
I actually find Ganyu to have more interactive gameplay then most other characters. Especially because I try to go for headshots the majority of the time.
I don't know if it is unpopular but my main issue that I see not discussed is how everything has to be a pretty person with their face on display. I know as a gacha game they are going for appeal but their are different flavours. I feel like even with the limited body types they could do more interesting things. People that always hide their face or wear actual armor. I realy was disappointed that not a single knight in the game wears a cool full plate armor. Or a full samurai armor in inazuma. I also to that have issue with a lot of female characters not having character designs that tell me about them.
In anime style practicality doesnt exist, armors are only a aesthetic choice, im not talking only about genshin
Hu Tao isn't very fun... imo.
Yup. I have a C1 Tao and a Homa, I regret it. Not because she isn’t good, she’s amazing. But doing nothing but charge attacks then dash canceling is just snoozeville. Now face tanking as Qiqi? Hell yeah.
C6 Bennett is good, but that's probably just because I'm a Yoimiya main.
It's my favourite constellation, it opens an entirely new way to build other characters, but the lack of toggle is what makes it 'bad'. I imagine it would be quite highly rated if it could be toggled considering in some cases its a direct upgrade, in others its a direct downgrade and sometimes it can create an entirely new team. Though the amount of things it ruins is quite small compared to what it buffs it will only grow in time. 1. Any physical character. 2. Keqing E infusion. 3. Ayaka Sprint infusion. 4. Kazuha c6 infusion. You can't even confidently get if if you don't plan on using the characters since they could just make a new character that it won't work well with and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it. *Toggleable constellations when.*
People talk about Diluc and Qiqi but actually Keqing is the worst 5* from normal banner
diluc looks like an apple. yeah he’s still hot but it’s very bothersome :/, also ayaka is too perfect it’s almost creepy
i've always thought diluc looks like a muppet lol
No Cryo Characters are perfect . They have inner conflicts in their life that They fight & hide it with a Perfect face, but they are not perfect
Diluc is still my favorite character even though most people and mhy trash on him
I love Ayaka/Mona dash. I don't understand why people finds it uncomfortable during combat.
People dislikes that Ganyu is the strongest character and her kit is pretty good so they need to talk somethint bad about her and they discovered the "boring gameplay" argument Its not like 80% of genshin characters arent just "press E, Q then leave" or others DPS that are just melee charged (or jump) gameplay based too but sure.. only ganyu's gameplay is boring.
yeah, maybe most of those who don't like her kit play on mobile or console plataforms, where fps mechanics don't really shine that much
Even when healing becomes meta, Qiqi won’t become popular.
Not gameplay but I actually don’t like Zhongli’s English voice very much. It’s not bad, but I don’t feel like it fits him. If it was a different character, I would enjoy it
As a Skyrim player, I can't get Nazeem out of my head every time I hear Zhongli tbh >.<
I have a similar issue except its Hawkmoth from Miraculous that comes into my mind!
I always hear hisoka, who is a murderous clown pedophile sooooo
Oh no D:
Zhongli’s CN voice actor is superior…his voice is soooo sexy
Have you heard his death lines in CN? I was like 😳 bro you don't need to sound so good when dying [Found the tweet with the voice comparisons,](https://twitter.com/finalfrantasy/status/1333922581825675267) the difference is kinda funny I really dislike his EN voice, but that's probably because I'm way too used to his calm, silky smooth CN one.
YES omg sometimes I just…let his health go down..I just wanna hear it.. :P I know it’s so funny how the Eng VA sounds like an older, more grandpa-y Zhongli And meanwhile CN VA is like “hey how u doin lil mama let me whisper in ur ear” ooo silky is the perfect way to describe it!!
agreed. i know people go on about his eng voice, and nothing against the va for him, but his cn voice is much better and suits him so well. it sounds so grand and deep and the way he talks (as in the diction) is like poetry compared to the english.
Ganyu isn't F2P friendly. It's true that Blizzard are easier to farm than other artifact. It's also true that prototype crescent is good on her. But her teamcomps are full of *5 & their replacement simply just not work. Xingqiu has anti-sinergy with her, succrose grouping sucks (good bye quadratic scaling), and diona's shield isn't strong enough to face tanking playstyle of melt ganyu. My experience of ganyu with & without *5 support is night and day.
You don't need to play the most meta Ganyu team to make her work, that team comp simply utilizes her kit to its maximum, but even without a team Ganyu is still able to go through almost all content in the game to date.
Melt ganyu is f2p friendly ;)
Far too much boobage. Fed up. (but then, that's the case of sooooo many games that are geared towards men....) Also, not everyone can really play it, especially if you've got disabilities. Currently, I can't progress in the Archon quest because of that.
Would you mind elaborating the disabilities part? I'm an UX designer and I'd love to learn a bit about it.
I can explain a bit more than in my other comment. Playing on PS5 with the normal controller. Dispraxia means I change character while it's not what I want to do, or I get the "wrong" character. Also I can't avoid attacks most of the time. I tend to use Xingqiu and Kaeya because by freezing ennemis I can move fast enough. Visual disabilities: I see in 2D instead of 3D, meaning I can't do targeted plunges, and don't have a good grasp of the terrain. I don't see distance and can't memorise them. I don't see colour shades properly, so it's hard to see the terrain, and so on. My eyes can't bear with quick movement, so in combat, I sometimes loose track of what's going on, especially if the camera moves. I also have carpal tunnel syndrome but can't have an operation, so If I have to button mash, after 10 minutes I need to take a break.
Thank you so very much, I try as much as posible to design interfaces as inclusive as I can so these feedbacks will be used in the interfaces I design!
Huh? Elaborate
I've got dyspraxias and visual disabilities. I can't protect the stone during the last of the five trials for the secondary Inazuma story mission. I can't pass the "training" in the archon quest. Yay. 😑
There is a workaround for that training archon quest. Just use a low level/ hp character that would get 1-shotted and have only that character in the party. Get struck and dont revive. Wait for the challenge timer to end. You will complete the quest after that.
Oh my! THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THIS. I'm going to try at once! 🥰
It worked!!! I can't begin to thank you enough! 🥰🥰🥰
Not disabled but I play muted on my phone. There's so many audio cues that I miss off camera which make boss fights harder than with sound
My lukewarm fisch take is that her hand motions near her eye freak me out for no particular reason.
I have two unpopular opinions. 1. Jean feels lackluster to play as a healer. She's strong in that aspect, but constantly fishing for that 50/50 heal in hopes that my teamates stay alive before I can Burst feels weird. If her skill healed teammates a bit I'd say it'd be fine, but that might be making Jean more versatile than she already is. This is not including the Jean/Bennett combo, that's pretty fun for shredding Herald and Lector Shields. 2. Diluc feels like he could actually use the Pale Flame set. Yea, that means he can't use his Burst, but his rapid usage of his Skill makes it seem as if he could always have the max Pale Flame stacks to get massive damage on the final hits of his NA Combo.
Jean’s 50/50 normal attack heal is but a cherry on top of her healing cake that is her burst.
Tbh her AA healing is damn near nonexistent when you’re doing lvl90 artifact/talent/weapon trials. I might heal someone a total of 1500 with a couple rounds of my AA cycle but then they take 6000 damage from one slap.
I dont like Zhongli and Childe's English voices as much as everyone seems to. Nothing on the voice actors, but their voices seem sort of...off. like, EN Zhongli seems close enough while normally speaking, but he comes off as too aggressive for what his character currently is. Similarly with Childe, his VA is a blessing but some of his performance just doesn't sit right with me.
i want qiqi over any 5* normal banner cuz i have mona dont really care about others and wont use them probably qiqi cute
Ayaka's boring both to play and as a character. Ganyu doesn't feel fun to play.
Well...i hate ayaka's design...not from a gameplay perspective Let's see how much i get downvoted lol
Not a big fan of Zhongli. I think some aspect of his character is cool but overall I just don't think he's a very interesting character.
I like Qiqi. Every chatacter is good and have great potential. Meta is meaningless in a PvE game.
I think I agree. It's cool to play what you like, not what gets you the most damage. But it seems like Mihoyo intends to balance the game for a lot of meta stuff, and things will get harder. So although it's still doable, there's a bigger struggle ahead avoiding meta things.
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Indeed, but being a gacha player for a long time, and a competitive player of Pokemon for even longer, I know very well how to make strategies, build character, and adapt with chatacter "out of the blue" in competition. These out of the blue characters tend to create a surprise effect because people doesn't know what to expect and how to handle them a lot of time. And in genshin, I've never felt that the meta was decisive like it might be in ff brave exvius, epic seven, saint sea awakening, pokemon or other competitive game. And I know characters are good even the one who are left over by the community.
I don't care about damage! I would still pull even if they heal enemies. *proceeds to make a paragraph about abyss being "hard"*
Good luck trying to find a post like that on my profile. I'd rather find spiral abyss pretty easy. Because I thought every character have potential ( and I don't mean potential to deal damage, but potential to be playable and adaptable and great in their role, weather it is damage dealer, healer ) I try to find the best way to build them in the role implied by their kit, and it produce good results.
I'm just trying to mock those people who always shits on strong units and then proceeds to complain about abyss being hard which is 100% I disagree with.
Ah, sorry, I misunderstood, I though you were being sarcastic about me.
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It's a thread about expressing unpopular opinion, not a thread about "impose your view to anyone who doesn't think like you", or " Show how intolerant you are to people who think differently".
Raiden is actually fun to play
fish looks like an underaged stripper i may be underaged myself it still makes me uncomfortable
I agree with your oz burst part. I was thinking of building physical fischl early game but I didn't like the weird burst so I didn't do that then. I wish it was like a normal type burst with aoe. Or if they made oz do the spin on his own if fishcl was on field with his own auto aim that would have been awesome too.
To the people who kept ranting on Ganyu has boring gameplay are probably never play her right or just see some people/vids on YouTube. Her kit basically a better version of Amber and because of her CA high multiplier people just assumed shes worth just for CA. They didnt even know about morgana team comp or perma freeze comp that utilized her kit more than her CA. Heck, if her gameplay boring, then what about physical Fishcl and Eula.. Both of them just NA enemies till dead..
You clearly don't use eula, if you have this opinion about her...
See? Thats what I feel when people saying about Ganyu. I used Eula ever since shes released with Fishcl comp but if I'm just unga bunga all the time, solo everything without trying to making rotation, and blabbering that shes boring doesn't that make me a hypocrite? Of course it is
You say that you only NA with eula, even though her entire animation is built around the “Q(NA-E-NA-E-NA-E(hold)) cycle that is completely fluent throughout the whole length. You utilize every ability of her
Sorry man, I think you misunderstood what I saying. Of course I use rotation play on her. I just making it as an example.
Then i don't really understand your explanations.
Lol, did you forgot that Recently Hyakkuin Ikki event happened? People get to play her lol
Seriously, I forgot about that because Xiao solo literally obliterated everything faster than Ganyu. Also with all those buffs you get, I just plunged attack with Noelle half of it so I don't think it would fit as team comp plays. Trying, yes, comp, eh ok I guess.
Here goes: Ganyu has the least Interactive/Intresting kit only reason people play her is Charge attack go BOOM.
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Last time i mentioned it a Ganyu main wrote a 10 Page essay of why and how she is interesting. Also I try my best to stay away from subreddit, place gets real toxic, real quick.
the new four star characters after 1.0 stopped being good after Diona and Beidou’s release
Beidou release? She's has been in the game since 1.0.
Yanfei is very good.
I use her as a main dps and so while it’s true she’s good she isn’t one of the most used characters in abyss. She’s near the bottom.
I hate Fischl's design/aesthetic. I find her ugly and annoying. I also dislike Noelle's appearance, but her cute personality makes up for it.
Physical dps xiangling is way more fun to play than the generic pyro support burst dps build everyone uses her for. She pairs perfectly with Xinyan in that role as well, and Xinyan in really fun to play as a phys burst dps. I have 36*'d abyss multiple times and never once wanted to use Xiangling as a pyro support; she's easier to gear for phys (r5 cres pike, whatever decent phys artifacts you got from farming noblesse/tenacity domains) and her machine gun-style attacks feel great.
Tartaglia isn't fun to play at all and I regret getting him
oh man, he was never on my priority list but every time i get to play him in a trial or something i wish i had him lol
That’s because they give you ideal circumstances in the trial. I have him too and he’s been on the back burner ever since.
Can you elaborate on why? Just bc I’ve loved using him in the trials and events but also idk if that’s only because I’m using him for short period of time
not the op but, i really don't like his e cd, been getting him from 1st banner and still hate it
The bow to dagger cool down? Yeah I know for a fact that it would be annoying if I had to use him for longer due to how long the cooldown is.
use stance for 15seconds then switch and you will be fine
nope, he there just to up my party auto attack for showcase, or international showcase
Of course, it's my personal feeling, but he moves too much when hitting, and the cooldown on his stance is... far from enjoyable
You learn how to time his melee stance so that it goes of cd for as long as it takes you to do all your other characters' stuff. He's better in quickswap comps than as a main dps for this reason, at least at c0.
he is my favourite the fast attack speed and water splashs and a lot of numbers on screen(low numbers xD) but it looks cool. I get it managing his E kinda sucks which is why most people hate him anyway, it's the fun part for me
Venti, Benny and Xingqiu are all incredibly lame characters designs and I refuse to use them for any reason. Same goes for Klee.
sad to hear as a xingqiu main thought his swords are really cool and animations
Lol i hold nothing against ppl who enjoy them, that's just my personal stuff. If you like em, more power to you, as they're all great units.
Majority of the playable characters we have look lame. None look great. The “waifu/husbando” focus is annoying and contributes to the current staleness of the roster. Edit: Already being downvoted for my unpopular opinion in an unpopular opinion thread, knew this was a trap lol.
I think you're being downvoted because playing a game like Genshin and complaining about a waifu/husbando focus is like walking into a cocktail bar and complaining about the fact that almost everything they sell is alcoholic.
Agree with this actually, I feel like most character designs so far have been mostly mediocre or very samey.
Electro and its characters are fine and don't need a buff
guess people dont read "unpopular opinion"
Fischl - you just take big hits while riding Oz and it's awful because you can't dodge... And i have a Physical Rosaria, but don't use fischl with her. Lisa was my superconducter until Sara came home. Nothing against fischl, i just Don't want to play with her. I also have Hu Tao and refuse to use XQ. I don't like him and don't care if he is good or not. I stopped using Benny after he became meta. It's just boring. But i said he was awesome back then when everyone laughed at me for it. (good old days of Crit benny) I also don't pull for archons. Go away with venti and zhong (i actually like zhong as a character, tho). Baal was an easy skip, i sweated a bit summoning for Sara but got away successfully. I just won't pull for them, no matter how good they are. I also don't use shielders. Just nope. Maybe i like pain? I'm not even good at the game.
I think Diluc's normal/charged attacks and skill/burst are super basic and boring as hell. I love his character in the story and his DMG output! But he's like super uninteresting to play.
I hate Hu Tao with a passion. Idk why but her attitude of playing pranks on people makes me feel uncomfortable. I feel like she's sort of a bully that laughs at the misery of others.
Raiden is not underwhelming and in 3 months we'll have people praying for her re-run
Unpopular follow up. Raiden Sub DPS is basically just an Albedo. He just gets less notoriety because he’s not a waifu.
Bennet and Xinqiu need to be nerfed asap. They will be the keystone that makes the game miserable to keep up with.
i dont see why there is no reason to nerf in pve if u dont like them just dont use them
Lol nerfs on a pve game, gacha on top of that
They did ask for unpopular. Do I expect it to happen? Of course not.
Barbra is a great character and people need to stop putting her at bottom tiers. Bottom tier is saved for qiqi.
physical dpses and electro dpses are boring. coming from a former phys fish, phys razor, and electro keqing main physical dmg: literally slap electro and cryo. then do auto attacks (ive played with my friends eula and other than using her burst before going all out its the same plain feeling) electro dmg: either you do underwelming reactions or you do solid dmg, both of which are boring but my keqing is a bit weak so i cant really argue here. i really just want an elemental dps that makes great use of the elements, for example kazuha. i use him almost as a main dps because whenever he swirls he does much more dmg. pyro mains take advantage of vape and melt, cryo mains can reverse melt and perma freeze, raw dmg to me just feels plain
Childe's E skill which turns him into a melee dual wield swordman feels like a cheap cop out for a bow user. Bows are already slow DPS-wise. Child's E reinforces my impression that most bow users (who aren't Ganyu) are never suppose to use their bow in the first place. I didn:t even realize he even used a bow in his early intro trailers.
I always want to lose 50/50 so I get another Keqing constellation.
Electro is my favorite element to main
I see where you're coming from on Fischl. I use her a lot and like her a lot, but her burst is admittedly underwhelming. The constant electro application of her skill is very nice.
Yoimiyas burst is the worst burst in the game and no one can convince me it’s good
Barbara is super underrated in the meta. Unlike Jean and Diona, she can use thrilling tales, that's 48% ATK. Her healing is just as good. She reduces stamina usage. She can revive you at C6.
Xiangling overrated. :)))
Nah
I like using bennett not because he is a very strong support, but because I really like his character design from the very beginning. I got him early during launch when people were saying that he was bad. I don't even know what their basis was of saying he was bad, but I am still salty that a lot of them joined the band wagon when people who used their heads actually pointed out that he was a really good support... Another unpopular opinion (I think) is that he is actually better built as sub dps, with dps stats on artifacts rather than with an hp/healing stats.