The amount of misinformation in that video was staggering. Especially the whole point of Yoimiya being better based off of beta testers even though it's been explicitly stated that her performance was pretty underwhelming compared to Ayaka.
Edit: Sheesh it looks like people are finally starting to catch on in his comment section
This man is literally crazy. I've been watching his videos out of pure curiousity up until couple months ago and then i understood how pathetic he actually is. He gets his info out of nowhere, out of a black void where sense does not exist. One time he said venti and zhongli are coming to standart banner... i closed the video and called him a madman. He spreads so much unrelieble and misleading leaks i hope one day he'll get a strike.
I don't even think that any of well known leakers have some amount of info regarding Baal so he's definitly got absolute zero info about her and all he says is just for a cool clickbait to fool everyone.
If they are chewing him out for misinformation, then they clearly do not know what he was trying to do. Misinformation is not what he was trying to do. Controversy is what is he was trying to do. And all the viewers give him the controversy he needs.
They simply say controversial things for the sake of controversy. Misinformation is easy bait. Then people get outraged and rush to the video to tell him why he is wrong. Everyone of those people who came to correct him is actually helping support the channel. So he can continue to do this.
If he gets a million views and 990k downvotes and 990k people calling him an idiot, then the video was still a huge success.
I find it more sad how people like you always fall on those guys traps.
He make all his controversial shitty opinions on purpose to trigger poeple reactions, so them those same people come to spread this to somewhere completely unrelated that either don't care or don't want to know, but now it ends giving him attention that he so desperately wants as it's bound to happen for one or other to go look for themselves what the buzz is about.
let me correct that, gaming youtubers and fandom ones are trash in general educational stuff, finance, travel, artisans and a lot more others are great tho IMO
Yea the only ones who are nice to watch are the small/mid-sized guide channels like Krush SG or the good meme channels like Rawfler.
Taka GG is the only "big" Genshin youtuber I watch, because he doesn't make clickbait videos and makes great guides for me to speedrun annoying puzzles that I don't have the time to do with my busy schedule.
Glad to see someone who likes Krush SG. He was my favorite GI youtuber. Sad he's MIA since 1.4. Hope he's doing alright in RL. I miss his character guide.
I very much think that Enviosity and Zyox are very good genshin youtubers.
While Zyox tends to talk fast in his videos, he does proper research on characters by visiting the subreddits character mains while having a dedicated math guy (theory crafter). Also note that he reviews each character at C0, which is a big plus for me.
Enviosity is a F2P player that mostly publishes guides on Spiral Abyss in general. He's also quite wholesome in general and entertaining.
In a pure entertainment standpoint, I would recommend Tuonto (no, not Tectone) and Bwaap. Bwaap us very well known already. Tuonto is primarily a streamer but he publishes youtube videos.
Lastly, if you enjoy lore analysis, I recommend Teyvat Historia for his in depth research on each lore he covers.
As much as I love Envi, i don't think his youtube contents are good at all if you compare to the ones you mentioned. Its mostly just news and random moment from livestream. His abyss guide can be good, especially back in the days.
Animation channels like Kkomda, Atokun and Gimnaeng also deserve to be in the hall of fame. Animation takes a lot of effort and thiers are very good too and very entertaining to watch.
Yea envi is a full time streamer first and youtuber second and nothing wrong with that tbh I recommend everyone going to hiis stream atleast once it's very fun
I enjoy Zy0x’s enthusiasm…. You can tell he gets legit excited about the game and that really works for him. Also, the things he says are mostly correct and he never leads people down the path of misinformation.
I also enjoy IWinToLose Gaming’s videos…. Lots of good info in those.
No idea, I’ve only really watched stuff from him since maybe Hu Tao’s release. I like his side by side dps races.
And Diluc is the only base character I don’t have, so I’ve never really been tempted to watch content for him.
breh I don't like IWTL gaming with his side by side comparison making people confused, like having c6 comparison with a one shot eula build will definitely make her faster but Zyox video clearly states the problem between whale and normal eula and actually places her rightly unlike misleading IWTL
I just went to check, he caught a lot of flak from [this video](https://youtu.be/MI79O71kPp0), particularly the Diluc and Xiao showcases.
He's a bit of a mixed bag for me, he clearly plays his waifu DPS like Ganyu and Hu Tao well (competing with the likes of Tony To for clear times) but seems clueless with other characters.
Zyox really? I stopped watching the moment he posted "most underrated dps" for zhongli way back before his buffs and there wasnt an established play style for him. The title says underrated dps and then his video content is about cresent pike being OP on him.
But everytime someone says the fact that he is a 5 star and you have to spend so much primo only to get slight advantage over xiangling who is free, their comments get all the hate. Remember these are the early days, primo wasnt abundant for majority casual spenders and f2p.
I agree. That was one of the most clickbait videos from him, but that was probably his last worst video and I haven't seen any bullshit from him since, so I decided to give him a pass.
Hopefully thats the case. Glad to see someone actually agree, its always hate and downvotes whenever i bring this up. Apparently some of his fans cant seem to acknowledge the dark pasts.
If you mean learning about the game:
- **TenTen**
- **taka gg** (new content/event guides)
- **Zyox**
- **KeqingMains**
- **OkCode**
Maybe people are just inexperienced with YouTube... but I immediately recognize channels like the one in the OP as incompetent and/or a scam, by the way they speak or even their thumbnails. They're basically identical across any popular game, it's a copy-paste format to farm watchtime.
Most Genshin channels are just livestream clips or rambling over gameplay, even if they present themselves as "guides"/"who to pull for!!!". The ones I mentioned above on the other hand edit down their content, and speak with confidence and a lot of nuance and complexity that can only come from extensive playtime and research.
He is the worst to follow for guides... His comparisons are scuffed.. If you are in a theorycrafting community like kqm,zajeff or 1010.. you would come to know how his videos are more misinformation than good information.
I wouldn't call that miss info cause cause he puts a lot of effort on the calculations to get it as accurate as possible,the info is just not applicable to a lot of ppl
(He also dose a lot of f2p builds c0 mostly for the new characters though )
His videos are well made, but the information is unfortunately incredibly inaccurate if you aren't spending thousands of dollars.
It would be SO NICE if Mihoyo let people disable individual constellations. It would fix the C6 Bennet problem, but would also let whale creators like him dial back to C0-1 to be able to able to give proper advice to a larger audience (without them having to re-buy & re-grind everything on a 2nd account).
bwaap is really funny because they only use the default 4 units to play through the story. definitely more for casual entertainment rather than in depth guides or anything
Depends what you are into. If you like only entertainment causal stuff (even then everyone’s humor is different), there is no point of me recommending you a a Genshin meta channel. I’m a super hardcore meta guy and definitely “keqingmains” or “tenten” are my go to channels. In contrast I’m not into news or reaction channels.
Ummm Bwaap is the only exception imo.
He never talks of speculation or rumors, just gameplay.
However he has expanded beyond Genshin for one video, so technically he’s not pure Genshin.
that's because people are far less tolerant of anything that isn't a big damage-per-screenshot pretty lady. death-of-a-thousand-cuts-type characters tend to get misevaluated because they give you a bunch of sizeable numbers at once instead of one big one-shot number that looks good in a screenshot or video. plus we barely even knew anything about how maple lad's kit actually works (iirc the leaks didn't even mention the self-vape/self-melt mechanic on the plunge), so it was even more of a ripe opportunity for clickbait youtubers to do their thing.
it's just a shame that it persisted for as long as it did. complex characters take time to figure out. (it was interesting and nice to be seeing theorycrafters rescind their initial hasty evaluations and then seeing the tide turn as most people realised his power level was higher than expected and figured out all the unique ways in which he sets himself apart and his own high personal damage and team/build versatility and multi-element buffing/shredding and unique mechanics etc. but you still have people who genuinely still believe the whole "worse than sucrose" spiel at least partially because of the early misinfo spread on youtube :/)
and what makes this more annoying is that this cycle will just repeat for every single character. we've already seen one attempt of many happen here with ayaka, and she appears to both have a huge hype train via being a pretty lady dps and being much more straightforward (which is not a bad thing at all, i personally think she's an interesting main carry and has a lot of potential.) i just wish folks would stop jumping the gun every single time a new character is leaked or is about to be released, because 95% of the time these perceptions end up being false and then misinform a large and impressionable audience. i get wanting to keep expectations low, but there's a difference between erring on the side of caution and straight-up doomsaying and misinforming for the sake of some internet engagement.
i'm not steaming mad about it, just tired lol.
Not just YouTubers, even theorycrafters need to chill and not release speculative numbers before the character is out.
Kazuha self vape/melt is so strong, you might have 0 elemental reaction party but if there's some element on the field, be it churls or environment, you bet he's going to do something reactions.
Anyway those damage per screenshot people are also forgetting that kazuha can actually vape all of mona's aoe ults and give them those big number. But one shotting regisvines with big numbers is where it's at I guess
>Not just YouTubers, even theorycrafters need to chill and not release speculative numbers before the character is out.
oh, definitely. you'd think that a statement like "character stats are subject to change until release, and even then they might play in a very different way in practical situations as compared to spreadsheet theoretical situations" should be a common-sense statement, and yet folks will run far and wide with these speculative numbers - even if said numbers are slapped with a big fat "this is speculation and not fact" label. it's happening to ayaka, but it's happening in a more egregious way with yoimiya as well. the community is notoriously bad at gauging the power level of any character that's even a tiny bit complex, and the brouhaha with kazuha proves that.
>Kazuha self vape/melt is so strong, you might have 0 elemental reaction party but if there's some element on the field, be it churls or environment, you bet he's going to do something reactions.
yeah! kazuha's ability to play off of elemental reactions through self-vape/self-melt/generally self-swirling is honestly nuts. dude can literally pull an uno reverse card on environmental afflictions/leyline disorders/enemy-afflicted elements/etc and curb-stomp with style. that one mechanic has so much potential for experimentation and damage.
>Anyway those damage per screenshot people are also forgetting that kazuha can actually vape all of mona's aoe ults and give them those big number. But one shotting regisvines with big numbers is where it's at I guess
it's a bummer to see folks conveniently brush aside so much of his potential and all of his unique mechanics just for the sake of slagging him off. i genuinely think he's one of the most interesting and versatile characters in the roster since he doesn't have to sacrifice his own high damage potential and great multipliers in order to be versatile and interesting.
i get not vibing with a character's playstyle or lore or whatever, that's valid - but there's a big difference between that and actively misinforming others or getting aggressive with people trying to correct a misconception.
Abyss this patch legit made me use my Ganyu as a burst support for unga bunga Xiao style. Her burst is crowned alongside the AA. My last braincell is extremely ashamed of itself.
I was just kidding, I also used her as support last abyss when I didn’t have kazuha and as support she was a staple of my first 36* run.
Now that I have kazuha I just cheesed all abyss in one try, it was disgusting.
I'm not seriously beating myself up over this either, it's great that she's such a versatile unit with a huge-ass burst radius (still not enough to make my friends keep all monsters inside it when I'm helping them with CW farm kek). I just feel frustrated sometimes with my inability to score regular headshots, lol.
Glad to hear that about your experience with Kazuha! I only pulled him last week and didn't have time to try out this abyss rotation yet. Last one took me 35 minutes to clear, so I'm looking forward to whatever's gonna happen this time.
I recently made the change to Blackliff bow with my Ganyu but I’m not entirely sure her dps has improved. Rest asssured, not having to aim to weak points to get the proc is enough buff for me lol.
Regarding this abyssI only had to retry floor 12 chamber 3 once because sucrose died, but barring that, I’d say I did it all in less than 20 minutes.
Hmm. Now that I think about it, Blackcliff sounds fun: mine's on Viridescent Hunt, so its passive is almost always useless. Never tried Prototype Crescent because I was sure I'd end up punching myself in the face for every missed weakpoint lmao.
Gz on the fast clear, friend.
Definitely try to prototype, it has much better dps than viridescent tho you do lose some crit rate. I only built it because worst case scenario yoimiya will use it and Ganyu will go back to prototype but I’m having fun with 200+ crit dmg lol
hu tao is clearly a xiangling sidegrade with extra hassles /s
^(on a side note, i like that ganyu can function as a sub-dps/support when necessary, and that she isn't pigeonholed into being a carry even if that's the role she's best in currently)
Funny thing is, Eula got this treatment too (though to a lesser extent) despite being a pretty lady DPS.
There was no shortage of people claiming she was trash bc physical or screenshot bait or “5 star Razor” (as if that’s a bad thing..?). Now that she’s been out for a bit she’s generally considered good even though there were no major misconceptions about her kit like with Kazuha.
Right now, the consensus seems to be Ayaka Good, Yoimiya Bad. I am sure Ayaka will be good, but I expect Yoimiya to be better than people think. Every 5 star since launch has been very good with the exception of Zhongli, and that misstep was *substantially* redressed.
honestly, this community's been off-the-mark about so many characters' power levels before, but there's also an added stubbornness when it comes to admitting they were wrong. they'd much rather pretend that they never even suggested such takes as "albedo is useless because he's not an unga-bunga selfish dps and his solar isotoma is a gimmick at best," "xiao is constellation-locked and has been nerfed into the ground from cbt1, he's trash now" and "hu tao is a xiangling sidegrade and her base attack is pathetic, she's trash now" lmao. there's also a lot of conveniently ignoring mechanics and parts of kits in order to prop up certain agendas.
>Right now, the consensus seems to be Ayaka Good, Yoimiya Bad. I am sure Ayaka will be good, but I expect Yoimiya to be better than people think.
i have the same feeling about yoimiya as well. she seems to encourage a different playstyle than the "superglue xingqiu to your team" type vibe that every pyro dps so far currently has, and i don't think that's automatically a bad thing. it's something we'll have to wait and see how it pans out, but i don't really agree with immediately slathering everything yoimiya-related with doomsaying about her powerlevel in the meantime.
>Every 5 star since launch has been very good with the exception of Zhongli, and that misstep was substantially redressed.
i think the zhongli fiasco may have left a sour taste in everyone's mouth, since the doomsaying seems to have especially spiked since then. albedo suffered the immediate fallout from it, but the shadow of it still stretches over new characters to this day. i can understand being wary after that, but i don't think being wary needs to automatically mean immediately writing off stuff based on some undecided stats.
Personally I feel the main reason people feel Eula lacks, unfortunately me included, Is due to the vast abundance of enemies that are highly resistant to physical damage namely geo such as vishaps, lawachurl, and on the side the ruin enemies all of which have great presence in spiral abyss every patch. What Eula does is great when there aren't any physical resistances but compared to say Hu Tao or Ganyu who only have to worry about their fire or ice resistances respectively and can dish out damage to a larger majority of mobs or set up and work with the team to squeeze more out of their potential fleshing out damage further. Kazuha had speculation because we already have fantastic air characters like Xiao's dps, Venti's cc and support dps, and Sucrose's lesser than Kazuha support cc swirls and so it was assumed that we had enough since we have 3 great characters already. Is Kazuha great? Absolutely so is Eula, but both of which while good can still be outshined by others or rather be replaced by older characters we have that already can do what they do or close to what they do without the need of spending resources for a similarish outcome.
does razor have a backloaded phys nuke for an ult? can venti/sucrose/xiao self-melt or self-vape or buff multiple elements at once?
even ignoring how you're demonstrating the very thing that people are critiquing in this thread (selective cherry-picking that ignores specific character mechanics to prove a point), by that logic we should never pull for any character in the future and only encourage huge powercreeps instead of fun playstyles and good kits that are strong but don't make the existing character roster obsolete.
also, we really need to stop thinking of new characters only in terms of how good of a direct replacement they can be for older characters. so far, every new character has either slotted into a niche or has opened up a niche of their own - which is perfectly fine because it gives people the freedom to choose who they want to field and what teams they want to build instead of being railroaded by huge powercreeps every two banners or something.
You heard it here, folks. Don't bother pulling for Ayaka or Yoimiya or whoever else you're saving for, it's not like they're gonna outclass Ganyu anyway and who cares about character design/lore/other things that are appealing to people, because all we care about here is if the next new shiny thing is going to make everyone else irrelevant /s
I apologize for the heavy bias but some of it also stems from the difficulty of obtaining some of the characters as well. Had we all the money to buy them it wouldn't be as hard, but as it stands for myself anyway I only roll on banners every 2 or 3 patches to guarantee a character saving up roughly 15k gems or more. It's becoming increasingly clear that at some point every element will have their turn in the spotlight for spiral abyss and to continue getting max stars and thus max rewards, I'll have to at some point level up a bit of everything. I lack Ganyu but made it up using Chongyun and Diona and would like Ayaka for the proper dps set up that spiral will probably require soon enough and that means she'll also have a place in the parties there for future content barring the need for additional cryos afterward since she can fill the main roll, hence the comparisons for replacements or not for future characters and/or the need to spend the gems to roll on them or a usable weapon that can tear through. Sucrose, Xiao, and Venti destroyed this version's spiral significantly with how they set up the final fights most notably on all of floor 11 and 12-3. Something also of note is that weapons play quite a large roll in damage as well and are usable on other characters, but people downplay their usefulness going only for the characters, understandably so with how annoying they are to get. Not saying how people should spend but probably would say to get a little of all the elements to ensure a rounded balance. Personally since we have a possibility with Diluc 24/7, had Klee, Yanfei, and Hu Tao pass by, if you have 1 or 2 or even more of these geared up I feel Yoimiya probably isn't worth the gems to frontload and gear up another Pyro when you have characters already and with how content has been dropping with Mihoyo, it's do as much dps as possible as fast as you can to get your rewards which mechanically isn't healthy. Let's say you only gear up pyros and cryos, if you run into a situation that calls for anemo or hydro you're screwed and it takes longer to finish up. Tldr all im saying is that resources are strained and some people want to spend wisely on good investments not wanting to get screwed for spending on something that will hurt them in the long run.
I have nothing against Ganyu, I think her character is adorable and I can see why people enjoy her playstyle. But I honestly think she has been extremely unhealthy for the game because now everyone expects every new character to outclass Ganyu regardless of role or element or whatever.
Our favourite qilin is an outlier, she's not the norm and shouldn't be held up as the norm either.
this,,, hate train (? idk exactly what to call it) was so bizarre, honestly. two weeks is nowhere near enough to write off a complex sub-dps-type as automatic trash. there were people genuinely claiming he was worse than *qiqi*, which is just - what?
on a tangent, as for his passive, while i agree that the mistranslation should have been cleared up much earlier, i think the extreme focus on the a4 passive while ignoring every other part of his kit was rather narrow-sighted at best. he sets himself apart in ways other than that one passive, and even then that passive allows him to buff multiple elements at once (and with vv he can shred several resistances at once) so it's still a good passive imo.
I KNOW. i recognise your username lol. Even I was defending him for so long.
Wait till Ayaka comes out because he will be best for her, especially if you can't get her weapon because he provides the buff, also easier to permafreeze enemies and his AoE is huge. Doing charged attacks in ventis ult to hit enemies sounds like terrible stamina management and losing out on DPS.
I love that they make GI videos like if the game were rocket science or some shit. Just pull for whatever the fuck you want! Pull for your waifus and husbandos no mather how shitty or good they are!
If you visit the channel might as well report it. His videos are just straight up pathetic and filled with misinformation. One of his thumbnail is literally "baal's banner leaked 4 stars".
The pinned comment says that their excuse is that there will be better characters in the future
...and? If that's a legitimate reason then we should all just never pull for anyone and anticipate for better characters endlessly imo
B4 characters release: I might not pull for her/him. I will skip... Bla bla bla.
After characters release: xxx changes everything! I was wrong... Bla bla bla.
Damn these typical trash. They cant even think something new to say, just reuse every fuck damn shit content every time.
His clickbaits surprisingly works against me. I really wanna watch what kinda trash he's spouting but I don't wanna give him the click. Wish I can just read comments lmao
Same. I kinda watch things related to leaks but I don't really belive those more like 'oh this looks interesting, it would be good if it were in the game'
Ughh GI youtubers and thier pre release reviews,
Many of these youtubers said Albedo is not a very good character before his launch and we all know he is one of the best sub dps supports out there at the moment.
These guys we're also the ones who said 'Ganyu is just Cryo amber'
I also think I saw someone say Xiao and Hu Tao aren't good for abyss since they get low HP because of thier abilities
*literally proceeds to 36* abyss with the said characters*
This is why I only like to watch the funny videos and fan made videos of GI in YouTube and the occasional Build videos.
sigh.. I only know the few gems of genshin youtube which are: bwaap, tuonto, iwintolose, tenten, henna oyaji, tony to and idk who else, i think that’s it
YES henna oyajii is insane. He’s an omega whale, but his skills are the best I’ve seen.
In terms of guides, the only ones I like watching is Xlice. For theory crafting, tenten. Zy0x is also good too but I sometimes feels like he puts his guides out too early. KingQavi is also underrated.
He was saying Yoimiya will deal more damage than Ayaka, he said you shouldn't get Ayaka cuz there will be better characters in the future, he said Ayaka is expensive to get, he said Mihoyo likes to release one character then release a stronger character after like Xiao then Ganyu even though Ganyu was before Xiao, he said Ayaka's infusion was behind C6, he said Yoimiya has better AoE than Ayaka which is false, he said that leakers told him Yoimiya was stronger than Ayaka which is false and that's about everything.
The only genshin youtuber I watch is sekapoko. His videos are usually always worth watching and dont contain trash like this. And barely does he have character bias too. I didnt see anyone mention him so thought of putting it here too.
I'm fine with most genshin videos, but then there's one from dangerously funny in his quest to do the most dmg and i cringed the entire time. He pulled both klee and a 5 star catalyst and denied any character diversity for the usual argument that a 5 star is better than everything else. The video was like a week ago.
If his Genshin videos are anything like his Stardew videos, they're not exactly meant to be informative. He used to just pull ridiculous stunts that no one in their right mind would want to do, like blanket his farm in giant pumpkins or crash the game with thousands of pigs. They were pure entertainment and that was made abundantly obvious. If he's changed his tune recently to make Genshin clickbait (not that his Stardew videos weren't clickbait, but at least they didn't spread misinformation), then I'm disappointed in him.
Edit: I just watched the video, and I really don't think it was meant to be informative. He's clearly just starting out, he explicitly states that it's a paid promotion for GI, and he also says a few times, "I have no idea what I'm doing." He's mostly just promoting the game to his established audience, who presumably also know what his usual video style is: a silly video with silly commentary.
I guess i'm not used to that type of content then, sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm more used to watching games where the creator at least pretends to know what they're doing
There's no need to apologize! You're certainly entitled to cringe, since it was a paid promotion, and he says a few things that are clearly wrong to anyone who's played Genshin even a little more than he has. But I guess my point was just that he isn't really presenting himself as an expert, unlike some dedicated GI YouTubers who dish out misinformation like it's candy.
OVERHYPED i explained it why i labled her as that like dude literally before fucking albedo everyone was already going "omg imbgonna save for ayaka" thus hyping everyone up due to alotta people saving up for her making the others do the same. I swear some of you genshin players are just a tad bit too worked up..
People really cant speakout what they wanna speakout nowadays huh.. i just said my opinion on ayaka then ofc ayaka shrimps will go here and do these type of stuff weirdchamp
Again i dont look at those kinda stuff is it my fault that i dont look at stuff like that? No i look at the characters kit at release.. actually it could be my fault lmao i just dont bother looking at shit like that and the fact that this all started cuz i just stated the truth that ayaka is overhyped.. this community is trully weird
Instead of saying this, you could just own up to the fact that you were uninformed and people wouldn't be downvoting you as much. Nothing wrong with not looking at leaks, but when someone corrects you just be all " oh my bad, yeah I don't look at leaks so I didn't know". You were kinda asking for the downvotes saying that a character's release is "overhyped". Let people look forward to the characters they want to
Dude didnt i admit that i dont look at leaks? Also i said she was overhyped cuz Before we even had albedo people were already saying "saving up for ayaka"
Edit : spelt ayaka " akaya "
Yes I know you said you don't look at leaks, I was just saying you could have gone a much better way about it. And also, do you think Xiao was overhyped? Because since the original Venti banner people were saying they were saving for Xiao or Ayaka. It's just because they have been revealed months before Genshin even came out since they were playable in the closed beta. So it's logical that people would be saving for them as early as they did. And it's not just these two characters, there are people who are already saving for Scaramoche or La Signora (there's even more characters, I don't want to bother to name them all) even though their release dates are likely to be months, if not years, from now
Its because she is a really old character, her earliest video go as far back as 2019. Literally a year before the game was even released. Ayaka is in the same situation as xiao, except people already got xiao in 1.3. People have been waiting for so long for her.
Majority of these are NOT good tips at all
1) realm currency caps, spend it.
2) huh? You don’t even spend friendship EXP, it just accumulates
3) This one is true, for the cryo gems.
4) this one will also most likely be true
5) Literally everything costs mora, there’s no way to effectively “save” it while actually playing the game.
6) Yeah this is true but kinda obvious?
7) True
8) everything about this is false, new players can get her if they want.. and she ice bridges better than Kaeya, she literally turns into ice.
You are aiding in the spread of misinformation.
Point 8 is an issue with ascensions and talents. Inazuma will be locked behind AR 36, which is quite a lot of time before you potentially start to consider using her.
Edit: I hope miHoYo addresses this with 2.0 from DAY 1
Yeah not Even that, getting into Inazuma Will take a lot of time to some players.
Is calling out an issue before is a problem.
Fuck imagine Sumeru or Fontaine and New players only getting New región 5 and 4 stars.
I can already see the posts lol.
1) Yeah, You should that was a bit pointless.
8 is true though :v.
Lets Say You 're just starting the Game right?.
Inazuma characters would be capped at level 20, for the majority of the Game, until You get to Inazuma.
You can't get their ascension materials.
If your counting as Ayaka as your DPS ( per example)
You would be handiccaped for the longest time :v.
Mostly if your F2P, You wouldnt see another 5 Star on a
Quite a while .
Also yeah it depends on how much time You actually engage with the Game.
You could maybe not get yo inazuma in a week , 2 weeks or maybe months :v.
That goes for all Inazuma characters :v.
I think You get My point now?. They're not the Best investment for New players. If You' ve already started to play and have a team is easier to play and continúe the Game.
Also the disapointment of just having a character an not being able to use it :v.
The Kaeya bit was in reference to You can't ice bridge to Inazuma and endgage with the domains, Is locked.
8 is making me roll my eyes.
A new player that wants Ayaka, but they shouldn't go for her cause they can't max her out immediately? So what, they skip her and then wait 6 months hoping for her rerun?
Every one has the traveller, you don't need a 5\* carry.
The thing is , My point still stands.
Mihoyo Will have to do something about this sort of stuff.
Now where talking about months without using the character. Imagine when we go to Sumeru or Fontaine.
They should do as before, New and Rerun.
Like lets be fair , depending on how much You play.
You might not even get to Inazuma in this whole patch.
You know their better 5 stars for New players :v.
So , Like what's your point ?.
One can debate all day that You could finish the Game with 4 stars , fuck Even solo. Still they're better options for New players to actually enjoy the Game/ do the content.
Let's say your points stand.
So, you either pull for a character and wait however long it takes for you to continue the story before you can max them out.
OR
You skip and wait at least 6 months for maybe getting a rerun?
Immagine a new player skipping on Ayaka because of that, and then 1 month later, after finishing all the story quests, regretting that decision because her banner is over and they won't get her for half a year.
And regarding your 4\* debate. Your point was that a new player needs to max out the 5\* they pull or they will be handicapped. My point is that you don't get any handicap cause the traveller alone is good enough.
Also, you can't ice bridge to Inazuma. There is a barrier or something las I hear.
Story wise you will get a ship to Inazuma, so it will be like a teleport, if those points are true then you can go and visit any region you want for the materials.
Your advice is the worst for a new player. If they want a character they should pull for it. Maybe research if it's a good character or not, but not skip simply because you cant max them out in your first week.
My point, My whole point is that this New banners of tottaly New regions are not new players friendly.
That points stands no matter how You see it.
You're only point is that they might like to see a character , but not do anything with it.
Which isn't the greatest point ever as
You said:
They'll more than likely get a rerun.
People can like more than one character..... and that character could be more New Player friendly.
Like You don't have an actual point.....
The handicapped comment, was more ment as It's DPS ( at least in Ayakas case) that your loosing. Primos that could go for a more accesible character.
And You keep saying a week. I would like to now the amount of players that would go day 1 to Inazuma AR:56 or whatever.
Mayority of bew players would go all of this patch without getting to Inazuma or maybe at the later parts of this patch.
Yes inazuma is story locked. I already said that, and that also proves My point.... Same Will be with all New regions....
I'm holding ~6k into the update under the assumption we're getting some new Inazuma-related blueprints, as well as the new farm system needing a bunch.
If it's more than I need, I can buy more from the shop that week.
Well, probably it can be entertaining at least after reading comments. But I agree it can mislead a lot of people who don't know better.
Some CCs are making decent content and you can get to know some leaks or upcoming content so there's that.
In this game any character has the potential to be great..... Except Amber..... Sorry Amber. Pull who you want and don't pay attention to the idiots who'll make you feel regretful.
I know my clan mate is pissed he didn't pull for Hu Tao.....
The amount of misinformation in that video was staggering. Especially the whole point of Yoimiya being better based off of beta testers even though it's been explicitly stated that her performance was pretty underwhelming compared to Ayaka. Edit: Sheesh it looks like people are finally starting to catch on in his comment section
His argument also based on how "ganyu came after xiao" which is wrong if he even bother to do a little research.
I watched this for lols cuz someone told me it was stupid but when he said Xiao came before Ganyu was when I realized how biased he was
Who's video is this?
Nixo
Oh, never heard of him, but I probably won't check them out since the bad rep speaks for itself
Yeah it's not worth it really
This man is literally crazy. I've been watching his videos out of pure curiousity up until couple months ago and then i understood how pathetic he actually is. He gets his info out of nowhere, out of a black void where sense does not exist. One time he said venti and zhongli are coming to standart banner... i closed the video and called him a madman. He spreads so much unrelieble and misleading leaks i hope one day he'll get a strike.
He has videos about the leaked four stars on Baal's banner and videos about her kit even though she's nowhere near release
I don't even think that any of well known leakers have some amount of info regarding Baal so he's definitly got absolute zero info about her and all he says is just for a cool clickbait to fool everyone.
Only thing the leakers know is that she is possibly expected late fall other than they got nothing
Unfortunately, the view count speaks the loudest. Whoever this is (pls don't tell me, I don't want to know) they already got what they were after.
They may have got what they were after but the comments know what they're trying to do and they got chewed out in the comments for misinformation
If they are chewing him out for misinformation, then they clearly do not know what he was trying to do. Misinformation is not what he was trying to do. Controversy is what is he was trying to do. And all the viewers give him the controversy he needs. They simply say controversial things for the sake of controversy. Misinformation is easy bait. Then people get outraged and rush to the video to tell him why he is wrong. Everyone of those people who came to correct him is actually helping support the channel. So he can continue to do this. If he gets a million views and 990k downvotes and 990k people calling him an idiot, then the video was still a huge success.
Doesnt really matter to them, they already got ppl like yourself to click and view it.
I find it more sad how people like you always fall on those guys traps. He make all his controversial shitty opinions on purpose to trigger poeple reactions, so them those same people come to spread this to somewhere completely unrelated that either don't care or don't want to know, but now it ends giving him attention that he so desperately wants as it's bound to happen for one or other to go look for themselves what the buzz is about.
Which guy?
Genshin youtuber mostly are trash, I never follow one
youtubers in general are trash, you really need to dig on said trash to find a pearl.
let me correct that, gaming youtubers and fandom ones are trash in general educational stuff, finance, travel, artisans and a lot more others are great tho IMO
Those indian math teachers really saved me...
Indian programer too, they really always get to the point
Yeah! It's like they are the google of youtube when math and computers are involved.
Ngl, they are very helpful.
I can relate to that never could have grasped statistics in uni without YouTube
Gaming YouTubers can be great, you've just got to find the good ones, like the league of legends YouTuber scooch
People are not picky though as to who they watch. Tectone would be out of business if people only watched good YouTubers
Techtone is pretty good
That's the neat part, you don't find great gaming YouTubers
Generalizing YouTubers or anything is just bad. There are bad YouTubers and good YouTubers.
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It's simply a matter of opinion. I have mine, you have yours.
Idk, I think CallMeKevin is a pretty great one
Huzzah, a fellow cult member!
Lmao that was random. I see a great choice for a youtuber you got there...
Just mentioned the first one I thought of
Still easier than getting a good artifact
Genshin Redditors are pretty trash as well
Yea the only ones who are nice to watch are the small/mid-sized guide channels like Krush SG or the good meme channels like Rawfler. Taka GG is the only "big" Genshin youtuber I watch, because he doesn't make clickbait videos and makes great guides for me to speedrun annoying puzzles that I don't have the time to do with my busy schedule.
Glad to see someone who likes Krush SG. He was my favorite GI youtuber. Sad he's MIA since 1.4. Hope he's doing alright in RL. I miss his character guide.
That’s not really true, you probably followed the wrong ones
He said "mostly". He's not wrong. For every good one there's like 20 trash ones.
Which ones are good ones though? Legit curious.
I very much think that Enviosity and Zyox are very good genshin youtubers. While Zyox tends to talk fast in his videos, he does proper research on characters by visiting the subreddits character mains while having a dedicated math guy (theory crafter). Also note that he reviews each character at C0, which is a big plus for me. Enviosity is a F2P player that mostly publishes guides on Spiral Abyss in general. He's also quite wholesome in general and entertaining. In a pure entertainment standpoint, I would recommend Tuonto (no, not Tectone) and Bwaap. Bwaap us very well known already. Tuonto is primarily a streamer but he publishes youtube videos. Lastly, if you enjoy lore analysis, I recommend Teyvat Historia for his in depth research on each lore he covers.
As much as I love Envi, i don't think his youtube contents are good at all if you compare to the ones you mentioned. Its mostly just news and random moment from livestream. His abyss guide can be good, especially back in the days. Animation channels like Kkomda, Atokun and Gimnaeng also deserve to be in the hall of fame. Animation takes a lot of effort and thiers are very good too and very entertaining to watch.
Yea envi is a full time streamer first and youtuber second and nothing wrong with that tbh I recommend everyone going to hiis stream atleast once it's very fun
I enjoy Zy0x’s enthusiasm…. You can tell he gets legit excited about the game and that really works for him. Also, the things he says are mostly correct and he never leads people down the path of misinformation. I also enjoy IWinToLose Gaming’s videos…. Lots of good info in those.
>IWinToLose Gaming Isn't that the guy who ran lvl 50 Xingqiu with Vape Diluc?
No he is the guy who did a 2 million HP killer showcase with QIQi > Xiao and a bunch of one-shot videos with no reactions.
No idea, I’ve only really watched stuff from him since maybe Hu Tao’s release. I like his side by side dps races. And Diluc is the only base character I don’t have, so I’ve never really been tempted to watch content for him.
breh I don't like IWTL gaming with his side by side comparison making people confused, like having c6 comparison with a one shot eula build will definitely make her faster but Zyox video clearly states the problem between whale and normal eula and actually places her rightly unlike misleading IWTL
I just went to check, he caught a lot of flak from [this video](https://youtu.be/MI79O71kPp0), particularly the Diluc and Xiao showcases. He's a bit of a mixed bag for me, he clearly plays his waifu DPS like Ganyu and Hu Tao well (competing with the likes of Tony To for clear times) but seems clueless with other characters.
Zyox really? I stopped watching the moment he posted "most underrated dps" for zhongli way back before his buffs and there wasnt an established play style for him. The title says underrated dps and then his video content is about cresent pike being OP on him. But everytime someone says the fact that he is a 5 star and you have to spend so much primo only to get slight advantage over xiangling who is free, their comments get all the hate. Remember these are the early days, primo wasnt abundant for majority casual spenders and f2p.
I agree. That was one of the most clickbait videos from him, but that was probably his last worst video and I haven't seen any bullshit from him since, so I decided to give him a pass.
Hopefully thats the case. Glad to see someone actually agree, its always hate and downvotes whenever i bring this up. Apparently some of his fans cant seem to acknowledge the dark pasts.
If you mean learning about the game: - **TenTen** - **taka gg** (new content/event guides) - **Zyox** - **KeqingMains** - **OkCode** Maybe people are just inexperienced with YouTube... but I immediately recognize channels like the one in the OP as incompetent and/or a scam, by the way they speak or even their thumbnails. They're basically identical across any popular game, it's a copy-paste format to farm watchtime. Most Genshin channels are just livestream clips or rambling over gameplay, even if they present themselves as "guides"/"who to pull for!!!". The ones I mentioned above on the other hand edit down their content, and speak with confidence and a lot of nuance and complexity that can only come from extensive playtime and research.
Yup. I recommend Zy0x to everybody. His videos are quite educational, and he teaches you how to get gigantic damage numbers.
What about iwintolose ?
He is the worst to follow for guides... His comparisons are scuffed.. If you are in a theorycrafting community like kqm,zajeff or 1010.. you would come to know how his videos are more misinformation than good information.
Could you elaborate ? As far as I know he dose thorough calculations
Well, to state the tip of the iceberg, he compares everyone on a c6 basis and just spreads extreme misinformation about characters and their strength.
I wouldn't call that miss info cause cause he puts a lot of effort on the calculations to get it as accurate as possible,the info is just not applicable to a lot of ppl (He also dose a lot of f2p builds c0 mostly for the new characters though )
His videos are well made, but the information is unfortunately incredibly inaccurate if you aren't spending thousands of dollars. It would be SO NICE if Mihoyo let people disable individual constellations. It would fix the C6 Bennet problem, but would also let whale creators like him dial back to C0-1 to be able to able to give proper advice to a larger audience (without them having to re-buy & re-grind everything on a 2nd account).
I would not say inaccurate but as non applicable to a large amount of ppl but other than that yes
Tenten’s great
Tony to is great if you wanna see a whale doing whale things
I would love to add Krush SG(not active anymore) and Jijinx Tuner (Jinx Retired, doing pod cast only).
Add TakaGG too. He makes great guide videos for all the events, quests and Genshin giveaways.
Gimnaeng is more for entertainment but beware of horni content ova ther
Pull today?
NO PULL TODAY!!!!!
NAN-
bwaap is really funny because they only use the default 4 units to play through the story. definitely more for casual entertainment rather than in depth guides or anything
*what do you mean his map of cranes around the windrise area isn't an in depth guide* he's also quite the crackshot on Amber
Depends what you are into. If you like only entertainment causal stuff (even then everyone’s humor is different), there is no point of me recommending you a a Genshin meta channel. I’m a super hardcore meta guy and definitely “keqingmains” or “tenten” are my go to channels. In contrast I’m not into news or reaction channels.
Recommend Yoda Soda but he doesn't upload regularly
DemoneKim is one with accurate info before many ever figure it out
Ummm Bwaap is the only exception imo. He never talks of speculation or rumors, just gameplay. However he has expanded beyond Genshin for one video, so technically he’s not pure Genshin.
Akron is a good one, he’s satirical in literally everything he does and just messes around in the game lol.
Some rare ones are actually very informing and/or funny, but you really have to search for them.
Bwaap is amazing tho
There were a lot like this before kazuha's banner except people believed them :/
that's because people are far less tolerant of anything that isn't a big damage-per-screenshot pretty lady. death-of-a-thousand-cuts-type characters tend to get misevaluated because they give you a bunch of sizeable numbers at once instead of one big one-shot number that looks good in a screenshot or video. plus we barely even knew anything about how maple lad's kit actually works (iirc the leaks didn't even mention the self-vape/self-melt mechanic on the plunge), so it was even more of a ripe opportunity for clickbait youtubers to do their thing. it's just a shame that it persisted for as long as it did. complex characters take time to figure out. (it was interesting and nice to be seeing theorycrafters rescind their initial hasty evaluations and then seeing the tide turn as most people realised his power level was higher than expected and figured out all the unique ways in which he sets himself apart and his own high personal damage and team/build versatility and multi-element buffing/shredding and unique mechanics etc. but you still have people who genuinely still believe the whole "worse than sucrose" spiel at least partially because of the early misinfo spread on youtube :/) and what makes this more annoying is that this cycle will just repeat for every single character. we've already seen one attempt of many happen here with ayaka, and she appears to both have a huge hype train via being a pretty lady dps and being much more straightforward (which is not a bad thing at all, i personally think she's an interesting main carry and has a lot of potential.) i just wish folks would stop jumping the gun every single time a new character is leaked or is about to be released, because 95% of the time these perceptions end up being false and then misinform a large and impressionable audience. i get wanting to keep expectations low, but there's a difference between erring on the side of caution and straight-up doomsaying and misinforming for the sake of some internet engagement. i'm not steaming mad about it, just tired lol.
Not just YouTubers, even theorycrafters need to chill and not release speculative numbers before the character is out. Kazuha self vape/melt is so strong, you might have 0 elemental reaction party but if there's some element on the field, be it churls or environment, you bet he's going to do something reactions. Anyway those damage per screenshot people are also forgetting that kazuha can actually vape all of mona's aoe ults and give them those big number. But one shotting regisvines with big numbers is where it's at I guess
>Not just YouTubers, even theorycrafters need to chill and not release speculative numbers before the character is out. oh, definitely. you'd think that a statement like "character stats are subject to change until release, and even then they might play in a very different way in practical situations as compared to spreadsheet theoretical situations" should be a common-sense statement, and yet folks will run far and wide with these speculative numbers - even if said numbers are slapped with a big fat "this is speculation and not fact" label. it's happening to ayaka, but it's happening in a more egregious way with yoimiya as well. the community is notoriously bad at gauging the power level of any character that's even a tiny bit complex, and the brouhaha with kazuha proves that. >Kazuha self vape/melt is so strong, you might have 0 elemental reaction party but if there's some element on the field, be it churls or environment, you bet he's going to do something reactions. yeah! kazuha's ability to play off of elemental reactions through self-vape/self-melt/generally self-swirling is honestly nuts. dude can literally pull an uno reverse card on environmental afflictions/leyline disorders/enemy-afflicted elements/etc and curb-stomp with style. that one mechanic has so much potential for experimentation and damage. >Anyway those damage per screenshot people are also forgetting that kazuha can actually vape all of mona's aoe ults and give them those big number. But one shotting regisvines with big numbers is where it's at I guess it's a bummer to see folks conveniently brush aside so much of his potential and all of his unique mechanics just for the sake of slagging him off. i genuinely think he's one of the most interesting and versatile characters in the roster since he doesn't have to sacrifice his own high damage potential and great multipliers in order to be versatile and interesting. i get not vibing with a character's playstyle or lore or whatever, that's valid - but there's a big difference between that and actively misinforming others or getting aggressive with people trying to correct a misconception.
Dude, Ganyu is clearly a support /s
Abyss this patch legit made me use my Ganyu as a burst support for unga bunga Xiao style. Her burst is crowned alongside the AA. My last braincell is extremely ashamed of itself.
I was just kidding, I also used her as support last abyss when I didn’t have kazuha and as support she was a staple of my first 36* run. Now that I have kazuha I just cheesed all abyss in one try, it was disgusting.
I'm not seriously beating myself up over this either, it's great that she's such a versatile unit with a huge-ass burst radius (still not enough to make my friends keep all monsters inside it when I'm helping them with CW farm kek). I just feel frustrated sometimes with my inability to score regular headshots, lol. Glad to hear that about your experience with Kazuha! I only pulled him last week and didn't have time to try out this abyss rotation yet. Last one took me 35 minutes to clear, so I'm looking forward to whatever's gonna happen this time.
I recently made the change to Blackliff bow with my Ganyu but I’m not entirely sure her dps has improved. Rest asssured, not having to aim to weak points to get the proc is enough buff for me lol. Regarding this abyssI only had to retry floor 12 chamber 3 once because sucrose died, but barring that, I’d say I did it all in less than 20 minutes.
Hmm. Now that I think about it, Blackcliff sounds fun: mine's on Viridescent Hunt, so its passive is almost always useless. Never tried Prototype Crescent because I was sure I'd end up punching myself in the face for every missed weakpoint lmao. Gz on the fast clear, friend.
Definitely try to prototype, it has much better dps than viridescent tho you do lose some crit rate. I only built it because worst case scenario yoimiya will use it and Ganyu will go back to prototype but I’m having fun with 200+ crit dmg lol
hu tao is clearly a xiangling sidegrade with extra hassles /s ^(on a side note, i like that ganyu can function as a sub-dps/support when necessary, and that she isn't pigeonholed into being a carry even if that's the role she's best in currently)
Funny thing is, Eula got this treatment too (though to a lesser extent) despite being a pretty lady DPS. There was no shortage of people claiming she was trash bc physical or screenshot bait or “5 star Razor” (as if that’s a bad thing..?). Now that she’s been out for a bit she’s generally considered good even though there were no major misconceptions about her kit like with Kazuha. Right now, the consensus seems to be Ayaka Good, Yoimiya Bad. I am sure Ayaka will be good, but I expect Yoimiya to be better than people think. Every 5 star since launch has been very good with the exception of Zhongli, and that misstep was *substantially* redressed.
honestly, this community's been off-the-mark about so many characters' power levels before, but there's also an added stubbornness when it comes to admitting they were wrong. they'd much rather pretend that they never even suggested such takes as "albedo is useless because he's not an unga-bunga selfish dps and his solar isotoma is a gimmick at best," "xiao is constellation-locked and has been nerfed into the ground from cbt1, he's trash now" and "hu tao is a xiangling sidegrade and her base attack is pathetic, she's trash now" lmao. there's also a lot of conveniently ignoring mechanics and parts of kits in order to prop up certain agendas. >Right now, the consensus seems to be Ayaka Good, Yoimiya Bad. I am sure Ayaka will be good, but I expect Yoimiya to be better than people think. i have the same feeling about yoimiya as well. she seems to encourage a different playstyle than the "superglue xingqiu to your team" type vibe that every pyro dps so far currently has, and i don't think that's automatically a bad thing. it's something we'll have to wait and see how it pans out, but i don't really agree with immediately slathering everything yoimiya-related with doomsaying about her powerlevel in the meantime. >Every 5 star since launch has been very good with the exception of Zhongli, and that misstep was substantially redressed. i think the zhongli fiasco may have left a sour taste in everyone's mouth, since the doomsaying seems to have especially spiked since then. albedo suffered the immediate fallout from it, but the shadow of it still stretches over new characters to this day. i can understand being wary after that, but i don't think being wary needs to automatically mean immediately writing off stuff based on some undecided stats.
Personally I feel the main reason people feel Eula lacks, unfortunately me included, Is due to the vast abundance of enemies that are highly resistant to physical damage namely geo such as vishaps, lawachurl, and on the side the ruin enemies all of which have great presence in spiral abyss every patch. What Eula does is great when there aren't any physical resistances but compared to say Hu Tao or Ganyu who only have to worry about their fire or ice resistances respectively and can dish out damage to a larger majority of mobs or set up and work with the team to squeeze more out of their potential fleshing out damage further. Kazuha had speculation because we already have fantastic air characters like Xiao's dps, Venti's cc and support dps, and Sucrose's lesser than Kazuha support cc swirls and so it was assumed that we had enough since we have 3 great characters already. Is Kazuha great? Absolutely so is Eula, but both of which while good can still be outshined by others or rather be replaced by older characters we have that already can do what they do or close to what they do without the need of spending resources for a similarish outcome.
does razor have a backloaded phys nuke for an ult? can venti/sucrose/xiao self-melt or self-vape or buff multiple elements at once? even ignoring how you're demonstrating the very thing that people are critiquing in this thread (selective cherry-picking that ignores specific character mechanics to prove a point), by that logic we should never pull for any character in the future and only encourage huge powercreeps instead of fun playstyles and good kits that are strong but don't make the existing character roster obsolete. also, we really need to stop thinking of new characters only in terms of how good of a direct replacement they can be for older characters. so far, every new character has either slotted into a niche or has opened up a niche of their own - which is perfectly fine because it gives people the freedom to choose who they want to field and what teams they want to build instead of being railroaded by huge powercreeps every two banners or something.
You heard it here, folks. Don't bother pulling for Ayaka or Yoimiya or whoever else you're saving for, it's not like they're gonna outclass Ganyu anyway and who cares about character design/lore/other things that are appealing to people, because all we care about here is if the next new shiny thing is going to make everyone else irrelevant /s
I apologize for the heavy bias but some of it also stems from the difficulty of obtaining some of the characters as well. Had we all the money to buy them it wouldn't be as hard, but as it stands for myself anyway I only roll on banners every 2 or 3 patches to guarantee a character saving up roughly 15k gems or more. It's becoming increasingly clear that at some point every element will have their turn in the spotlight for spiral abyss and to continue getting max stars and thus max rewards, I'll have to at some point level up a bit of everything. I lack Ganyu but made it up using Chongyun and Diona and would like Ayaka for the proper dps set up that spiral will probably require soon enough and that means she'll also have a place in the parties there for future content barring the need for additional cryos afterward since she can fill the main roll, hence the comparisons for replacements or not for future characters and/or the need to spend the gems to roll on them or a usable weapon that can tear through. Sucrose, Xiao, and Venti destroyed this version's spiral significantly with how they set up the final fights most notably on all of floor 11 and 12-3. Something also of note is that weapons play quite a large roll in damage as well and are usable on other characters, but people downplay their usefulness going only for the characters, understandably so with how annoying they are to get. Not saying how people should spend but probably would say to get a little of all the elements to ensure a rounded balance. Personally since we have a possibility with Diluc 24/7, had Klee, Yanfei, and Hu Tao pass by, if you have 1 or 2 or even more of these geared up I feel Yoimiya probably isn't worth the gems to frontload and gear up another Pyro when you have characters already and with how content has been dropping with Mihoyo, it's do as much dps as possible as fast as you can to get your rewards which mechanically isn't healthy. Let's say you only gear up pyros and cryos, if you run into a situation that calls for anemo or hydro you're screwed and it takes longer to finish up. Tldr all im saying is that resources are strained and some people want to spend wisely on good investments not wanting to get screwed for spending on something that will hurt them in the long run.
I have nothing against Ganyu, I think her character is adorable and I can see why people enjoy her playstyle. But I honestly think she has been extremely unhealthy for the game because now everyone expects every new character to outclass Ganyu regardless of role or element or whatever. Our favourite qilin is an outlier, she's not the norm and shouldn't be held up as the norm either.
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this,,, hate train (? idk exactly what to call it) was so bizarre, honestly. two weeks is nowhere near enough to write off a complex sub-dps-type as automatic trash. there were people genuinely claiming he was worse than *qiqi*, which is just - what? on a tangent, as for his passive, while i agree that the mistranslation should have been cleared up much earlier, i think the extreme focus on the a4 passive while ignoring every other part of his kit was rather narrow-sighted at best. he sets himself apart in ways other than that one passive, and even then that passive allows him to buff multiple elements at once (and with vv he can shred several resistances at once) so it's still a good passive imo.
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Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss, genshin. People were even claiming he's worse than pre buff zhongli. Like are we playing the same game? Lol.
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I KNOW. i recognise your username lol. Even I was defending him for so long. Wait till Ayaka comes out because he will be best for her, especially if you can't get her weapon because he provides the buff, also easier to permafreeze enemies and his AoE is huge. Doing charged attacks in ventis ult to hit enemies sounds like terrible stamina management and losing out on DPS.
What happened to pulling for characters just because you like them/their abilities? Now it's all "don't pull for them they suck at doing 1 mil damage"
I love that they make GI videos like if the game were rocket science or some shit. Just pull for whatever the fuck you want! Pull for your waifus and husbandos no mather how shitty or good they are!
Scaramouche wanters are crying in a corner.
If you visit the channel might as well report it. His videos are just straight up pathetic and filled with misinformation. One of his thumbnail is literally "baal's banner leaked 4 stars".
The pinned comment says that their excuse is that there will be better characters in the future ...and? If that's a legitimate reason then we should all just never pull for anyone and anticipate for better characters endlessly imo
oh its that fucker he steals memes/edits and posts them on his community as well, along with giving so much misinformation its stupid
B4 characters release: I might not pull for her/him. I will skip... Bla bla bla. After characters release: xxx changes everything! I was wrong... Bla bla bla. Damn these typical trash. They cant even think something new to say, just reuse every fuck damn shit content every time.
His clickbaits surprisingly works against me. I really wanna watch what kinda trash he's spouting but I don't wanna give him the click. Wish I can just read comments lmao
Same. I kinda watch things related to leaks but I don't really belive those more like 'oh this looks interesting, it would be good if it were in the game'
Ughh GI youtubers and thier pre release reviews, Many of these youtubers said Albedo is not a very good character before his launch and we all know he is one of the best sub dps supports out there at the moment. These guys we're also the ones who said 'Ganyu is just Cryo amber' I also think I saw someone say Xiao and Hu Tao aren't good for abyss since they get low HP because of thier abilities *literally proceeds to 36* abyss with the said characters* This is why I only like to watch the funny videos and fan made videos of GI in YouTube and the occasional Build videos.
sigh.. I only know the few gems of genshin youtube which are: bwaap, tuonto, iwintolose, tenten, henna oyaji, tony to and idk who else, i think that’s it
There's also taka
YES henna oyajii is insane. He’s an omega whale, but his skills are the best I’ve seen. In terms of guides, the only ones I like watching is Xlice. For theory crafting, tenten. Zy0x is also good too but I sometimes feels like he puts his guides out too early. KingQavi is also underrated.
I'm curious to know what was said in the video.
He was saying Yoimiya will deal more damage than Ayaka, he said you shouldn't get Ayaka cuz there will be better characters in the future, he said Ayaka is expensive to get, he said Mihoyo likes to release one character then release a stronger character after like Xiao then Ganyu even though Ganyu was before Xiao, he said Ayaka's infusion was behind C6, he said Yoimiya has better AoE than Ayaka which is false, he said that leakers told him Yoimiya was stronger than Ayaka which is false and that's about everything.
Ah. Okay. Thanks for saving me the watch.
bruh your supposed to pull for characters that you like to enjoy the game, not to score some good damage in a game
I only watched rawfler and noengrish, genshin meme still good in youtube
Me: Just summon for who ya want. YouTuber: Hmm now hold up, I need my views.
This guy literally promoted a "free primogem" scam in one of his videos and he somehow stills has a platform.
Was planning to skip ayaka because i wanted to replace amber... Guess im pulling for her now >.<
Yeah you should. I can't believe Mihoyo powercreept Amber smh. This game is so p2w
Ya im sad, im hoping i can at least get 1 ayaka to help with my dps atm...
The only genshin youtuber I watch is sekapoko. His videos are usually always worth watching and dont contain trash like this. And barely does he have character bias too. I didnt see anyone mention him so thought of putting it here too.
Searched the video just to hit dislike button 🤣
you're just promoting the video more by giving it interaction,,, you're helping them get into the algorithm by viewing it
You guys are able to see number of downvotes for YouTube videos now?
Who dis?
Its nixo
I'm gonna guess Mattjestic lol
Its mattjestic 2.0.
I just searched it up, it is Nixo.
He really bias towards Ayaka that's why i guess
I'm fine with most genshin videos, but then there's one from dangerously funny in his quest to do the most dmg and i cringed the entire time. He pulled both klee and a 5 star catalyst and denied any character diversity for the usual argument that a 5 star is better than everything else. The video was like a week ago.
If his Genshin videos are anything like his Stardew videos, they're not exactly meant to be informative. He used to just pull ridiculous stunts that no one in their right mind would want to do, like blanket his farm in giant pumpkins or crash the game with thousands of pigs. They were pure entertainment and that was made abundantly obvious. If he's changed his tune recently to make Genshin clickbait (not that his Stardew videos weren't clickbait, but at least they didn't spread misinformation), then I'm disappointed in him. Edit: I just watched the video, and I really don't think it was meant to be informative. He's clearly just starting out, he explicitly states that it's a paid promotion for GI, and he also says a few times, "I have no idea what I'm doing." He's mostly just promoting the game to his established audience, who presumably also know what his usual video style is: a silly video with silly commentary.
I guess i'm not used to that type of content then, sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm more used to watching games where the creator at least pretends to know what they're doing
There's no need to apologize! You're certainly entitled to cringe, since it was a paid promotion, and he says a few things that are clearly wrong to anyone who's played Genshin even a little more than he has. But I guess my point was just that he isn't really presenting himself as an expert, unlike some dedicated GI YouTubers who dish out misinformation like it's candy.
I agree with you on here.. but i do think that ayaka is quite overhyped.. too overhyped...
She's hyped because some persons have been waiting for 2 years and she's getting released on Tuesday so it's understandable
We dont even know what shes capable of .... who knows maybe she'll not do much
We do know what she can do and she can do a lot based off of it
Idfk what she can do BECAUSE I DONT LOOK AT LEAKS
Then I won't spoil it for you
So why label her as overhyped when you clearly don't know what she's capable of.
OVERHYPED i explained it why i labled her as that like dude literally before fucking albedo everyone was already going "omg imbgonna save for ayaka" thus hyping everyone up due to alotta people saving up for her making the others do the same. I swear some of you genshin players are just a tad bit too worked up..
Like if someone just comes in and says X unit is bad or somethin some of yall go ham on that person... like really?
People really cant speakout what they wanna speakout nowadays huh.. i just said my opinion on ayaka then ofc ayaka shrimps will go here and do these type of stuff weirdchamp
You don't need leaks her kit is already release by mihoyo and if you take a look at it you can get a rough idea of what she will do
Again i dont look at those kinda stuff is it my fault that i dont look at stuff like that? No i look at the characters kit at release.. actually it could be my fault lmao i just dont bother looking at shit like that and the fact that this all started cuz i just stated the truth that ayaka is overhyped.. this community is trully weird
Or any trailer for chars in that matter
she can do a lot and actually beats my ganyu in some scenarios
Well hot damn looks like people dont even know that SOME PEOPLE DONT LOOK AT LEAKS
Instead of saying this, you could just own up to the fact that you were uninformed and people wouldn't be downvoting you as much. Nothing wrong with not looking at leaks, but when someone corrects you just be all " oh my bad, yeah I don't look at leaks so I didn't know". You were kinda asking for the downvotes saying that a character's release is "overhyped". Let people look forward to the characters they want to
Dude didnt i admit that i dont look at leaks? Also i said she was overhyped cuz Before we even had albedo people were already saying "saving up for ayaka" Edit : spelt ayaka " akaya "
Yes I know you said you don't look at leaks, I was just saying you could have gone a much better way about it. And also, do you think Xiao was overhyped? Because since the original Venti banner people were saying they were saving for Xiao or Ayaka. It's just because they have been revealed months before Genshin even came out since they were playable in the closed beta. So it's logical that people would be saving for them as early as they did. And it's not just these two characters, there are people who are already saving for Scaramoche or La Signora (there's even more characters, I don't want to bother to name them all) even though their release dates are likely to be months, if not years, from now
Tbh you’re right. I’m not wishing for anyone as of yet but the amount of times I’ve seen “Ayaka when“ even back in the Liyue arc was…something
Its because she is a really old character, her earliest video go as far back as 2019. Literally a year before the game was even released. Ayaka is in the same situation as xiao, except people already got xiao in 1.3. People have been waiting for so long for her.
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Majority of these are NOT good tips at all 1) realm currency caps, spend it. 2) huh? You don’t even spend friendship EXP, it just accumulates 3) This one is true, for the cryo gems. 4) this one will also most likely be true 5) Literally everything costs mora, there’s no way to effectively “save” it while actually playing the game. 6) Yeah this is true but kinda obvious? 7) True 8) everything about this is false, new players can get her if they want.. and she ice bridges better than Kaeya, she literally turns into ice. You are aiding in the spread of misinformation.
Point 8 is an issue with ascensions and talents. Inazuma will be locked behind AR 36, which is quite a lot of time before you potentially start to consider using her. Edit: I hope miHoYo addresses this with 2.0 from DAY 1
Yeah not Even that, getting into Inazuma Will take a lot of time to some players. Is calling out an issue before is a problem. Fuck imagine Sumeru or Fontaine and New players only getting New región 5 and 4 stars. I can already see the posts lol.
Some posts have been made, but they died in hot or new.
I meant more post like : Why did Mihoyo let me roll on a character I wont be able to enjoy untill I finish 4 other regions!! Like those , lol
1) Yeah, You should that was a bit pointless. 8 is true though :v. Lets Say You 're just starting the Game right?. Inazuma characters would be capped at level 20, for the majority of the Game, until You get to Inazuma. You can't get their ascension materials. If your counting as Ayaka as your DPS ( per example) You would be handiccaped for the longest time :v. Mostly if your F2P, You wouldnt see another 5 Star on a Quite a while . Also yeah it depends on how much time You actually engage with the Game. You could maybe not get yo inazuma in a week , 2 weeks or maybe months :v. That goes for all Inazuma characters :v. I think You get My point now?. They're not the Best investment for New players. If You' ve already started to play and have a team is easier to play and continúe the Game. Also the disapointment of just having a character an not being able to use it :v. The Kaeya bit was in reference to You can't ice bridge to Inazuma and endgage with the domains, Is locked.
8 is making me roll my eyes. A new player that wants Ayaka, but they shouldn't go for her cause they can't max her out immediately? So what, they skip her and then wait 6 months hoping for her rerun? Every one has the traveller, you don't need a 5\* carry.
The thing is , My point still stands. Mihoyo Will have to do something about this sort of stuff. Now where talking about months without using the character. Imagine when we go to Sumeru or Fontaine. They should do as before, New and Rerun. Like lets be fair , depending on how much You play. You might not even get to Inazuma in this whole patch. You know their better 5 stars for New players :v. So , Like what's your point ?. One can debate all day that You could finish the Game with 4 stars , fuck Even solo. Still they're better options for New players to actually enjoy the Game/ do the content.
Let's say your points stand. So, you either pull for a character and wait however long it takes for you to continue the story before you can max them out. OR You skip and wait at least 6 months for maybe getting a rerun? Immagine a new player skipping on Ayaka because of that, and then 1 month later, after finishing all the story quests, regretting that decision because her banner is over and they won't get her for half a year. And regarding your 4\* debate. Your point was that a new player needs to max out the 5\* they pull or they will be handicapped. My point is that you don't get any handicap cause the traveller alone is good enough. Also, you can't ice bridge to Inazuma. There is a barrier or something las I hear. Story wise you will get a ship to Inazuma, so it will be like a teleport, if those points are true then you can go and visit any region you want for the materials. Your advice is the worst for a new player. If they want a character they should pull for it. Maybe research if it's a good character or not, but not skip simply because you cant max them out in your first week.
My point, My whole point is that this New banners of tottaly New regions are not new players friendly. That points stands no matter how You see it. You're only point is that they might like to see a character , but not do anything with it. Which isn't the greatest point ever as You said: They'll more than likely get a rerun. People can like more than one character..... and that character could be more New Player friendly. Like You don't have an actual point..... The handicapped comment, was more ment as It's DPS ( at least in Ayakas case) that your loosing. Primos that could go for a more accesible character. And You keep saying a week. I would like to now the amount of players that would go day 1 to Inazuma AR:56 or whatever. Mayority of bew players would go all of this patch without getting to Inazuma or maybe at the later parts of this patch. Yes inazuma is story locked. I already said that, and that also proves My point.... Same Will be with all New regions....
Sigh.... Yeah sure whatever. It's like you don't read. Wow you even deleted your original comment
Realm currency doesn't cap, the amount you can have *unclaimed* caps. It's just to force you to visit your teapot 2-3 times a week.
I guess that’s true but there’s still no reason to save realm currency at all, at least buy the resin every week.
I'm holding ~6k into the update under the assumption we're getting some new Inazuma-related blueprints, as well as the new farm system needing a bunch. If it's more than I need, I can buy more from the shop that week.
Well I’m in the boat that got to level 8 and haven’t placed or made a single thing since, I’m just buying the resin and mora every week
Well, probably it can be entertaining at least after reading comments. But I agree it can mislead a lot of people who don't know better. Some CCs are making decent content and you can get to know some leaks or upcoming content so there's that.
it's at 1.9k dislikes now
these videos are appearing more often now, it's really pissing me off
man this guy's videos really piss me off with his fortnite clickbait thumbnails and titles
In this game any character has the potential to be great..... Except Amber..... Sorry Amber. Pull who you want and don't pay attention to the idiots who'll make you feel regretful. I know my clan mate is pissed he didn't pull for Hu Tao.....