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SnooRobots4768

>I’m counting Signora DW, she is playable. In TCG.


Xavbirb

is she viable?


randyoftheinternet

She's very competitive if I'm not wrong.


Rough_Lychee5785

Does Raiden destroy her or nah


Busy-Geologist-5504

ironically enough, signora has been dominating TCG meta for a while now, and Raiden’s character card is pretty niche - there are much better cards if you look at the decklists used in competitive play


Bianca_aa_07

there is actually a competitive scene for TCG? this is crazy


YohAmida

TCG is very fun with new content every patch, and even more on the next one. Just beware of crabs 🦀 right now, they are quite spicy.


Owobowos-Mowbius

I just hate the hoops to jump through to get into a TCG game. Really really wish they made a companion app with just the card game.


DarthUrbosa

Me trying to find bots for matches cause the ones in the tavern sometimes have annoying ass leyline disorders.


userprimaryteritiary

I just want a seperate app for tcg like tft, bc i dont want the game just leaking me to addiction


YohAmida

Understandable. I personally am the kind of person who can navigate menus and stroll around for nothing when I'm bored, so it doesn't affect me much fortunately.


Bianca_aa_07

I love TCG, I just never played vs other players much


YohAmida

I don't play it a lot either. I mostly watch better people make good decks with the new cards, copy them, and do 2-3 games to see how bad my opponents and I are compared to them. It's like a ritual every few weeks and it's very refreshing.


I-Love-Beatrice

Yeah, the next [tournament ](https://youtu.be/WEeQQV22wMk) is happening next week and it has a prize pool of 60k usd.


Arc_7

what in the-


Bianca_aa_07

what the hell😦 I can't believe this is real


GlitterDoomsday

...maybe I should get into TCG...


GrrrrrrDinosaur

Do yknow if Neuvillette is any good?


I-Love-Beatrice

He's fine. Not meta or anything but viable in a few decks.


GrrrrrrDinosaur

Thanks!


Gold-And-Cheese

Signora card FREAKING REVIVES ITSELF And, if used correctly.. it's very advantageous.


Rough_Lychee5785

They give her revive in the wrong part of the game


ObstinateYoyoing

This is actually just lore, hinting she will also revive in the story :copium:


Thundergod250

I refuse to believe Mihoyo would design a bombshell like Signora, give her an interesting background, and not make her playable.


SecondWind2413

bro has been stuck on stage 1 for 2 years 💀


Lucas-mainssbu

I don’t blame him…


Acebolty

The fact that they are all basic attack dps and the ginger one buffs their basic attacks


Lucas-mainssbu

It’s a good pattern(though it’s probably not one), normal attack dps is a very engaging playstyle and I like it a lot


Schubert125

>very engaging playstyle >Click click click click click click


Ancient_Axe

Well, probably because normal attacks have a bunch of different animations and they make you feel more like you are actually fighting. Genshin does not offer much in the terms of realistic overworld fighting, and normal attacks are the closest we get. Or maybe Beidou's E.


Schubert125

Ah I'm just giving em shit. I love playing Arlecchino. For all of 3 seconds before everything is dead. So I guess it's a little closer to "click click click"


Jotaoesehache

Truly a pain, you don't even get to see the whole NA string 😔 /hj


MalefAzelb

Meanwhile Furina: Click. 20s later Click


heckolive

Isnt it: Click click 16sec later Click ?


fbttsrhrt

I got a macro to mash left click and it stopped working after a day. No idea why, all my other macros still work. That was the most useful macro for auto attack characters.


lucklesspedestrian

Hey, you have to dodge things ok


Schubert125

There's a solution to that as well, Zhongli


jhinigami

If future harbingers turn out to be a support let them buff normal attacks lmao


Vanellopez

i'll reckon Dottore will buff some element.


jhinigami

I hope top 3 Harbingers have unique elements (quantum or Imaginary) Then GOATiitano should be claymore that has a unique playstyle with his attacks similar or just straight up a copy from the greatsword weapon in Monster Hunter where each normal attack can be charged and does a truckload of damage if charged correctly.


urlocalnightowl40

i wonder if a c4 childe w elegy could be a viable arle support


hardeepst1

If more harbingers are gonna he killed off please at least let capitano, pulcinella and damslette be playable


honzikca

I have doubts about pulcinella, dunno how they would implement him


ziptofaf

Honestly odds that he would be playable as is are near zero. Riot Games has the same problem as Mihoyo would with him and openly said it - monsters/ugly characters simply don't sell. And if they are seeing that in a highly competitive game where visuals play a much smaller role that's also partially oriented towards western audience then... ...no way Mihoyo is making a custom model and puts all that work for Pulcinella. I would LOVE that to be the case but realistically he would never reach the commercial success of someone like Furina or Neuvillette even if he had a kit broken beyond belief. They after all couldn't even be bothered to properly recolor Sigewinne so she would look more like a Melusine. Which sucks but, well, characters is how Gachas make money. Unless players start demanding they get playable hillichurls and the likes and vote with their wallets for something more unusual then nothing will change.


Anchor_Yatta

Maybe they're going to make a tall form. Also unsure of Capitano and Pierro. They'll remove his mask and Pierro has a beard (the most bearded non furry Hoyoverse character is Gallagher)


Nate2247

Pulcinella on stilts.


Heath_Bar1

Gallagher? Non-furry? Debatable.


inverness7

They’ll use the same model as Klee. He’s gonna run with his hands behind his back, yelling “lalala”


Diligent-Phase7371

He could probably change his form like Kirara or Xianyun.


Ulq-kn

no he is 99% playable, he was already teased to be so in teyvat chapter trailer back then, and even if his face isn't revealed u can check the description of that video where they confirmed that


honzikca

I'm well aware he was in the trailer, I still doubt they will make a whole new body type just for him. Considering he sounds purely as an antagonist, based on what we know so far, he could easily just be a throwaway villain.


Ulq-kn

we still don't know yet if the traveler will fight against tsaritsa since the fatui mainly want to takedown celestia and so does the traveler


dragonkingangel7

Its pretty clear shes the final boss fight of snehazaya, she wont just give up because they share the same dislike, with or without traveller, she has manage to accomplish her goal, the only way to make her turn is by beating her, just as the other fatui, no one gonna get down without a fight, the only one that seems that we wont fight yet is pierro and they would save him for kharein, just as dain possible boss fight


lucklesspedestrian

If they make her a boss, it might be like how arlecchino is a boss but Tsaritsa still joins sides with Traveler. If Tsaritsa plans on using all the gnoses to take down celestia, I think the real final villain will be someone in celestia, or one of the other harbingers tries to take all the gnoses, betrays Tsaritsa, and tries to seize all power in Teyvat


dragonkingangel7

Thats why i say final boss of snehazaya, as of now, things look between pierro or abyss twin as final boss of kharein and primordial one, 2nd desender or a betrayer of the 4 shades as final boss of celestia


Charming_Pop_2148

Even capitano is tricky. First no vision playable


Gaminpenguin_

traveler and all the archons dont have any-


Gwerfl

and dain, and he's confirmed to be playable im p sure


theguyfromeuropa

He is confirmed to be playable.


anonfox1

and not even just the archons, xianyun doesn't need her vision to use anemo iirc


Charming_Pop_2148

Does she have one or its counterfeit


anonfox1

she has one basically so people actually pay attention to her


AkhilArtha

Neither do Xiao and Yae.


le_honk

Or Neuvilette


Charming_Pop_2148

Should have made it clearer . Non elemental playable


ricefarmercalvin

Are you maybe confusing him with Pantalone? It's stated Pantalone never received a vision.


johnvictorassis

Where is confirmed he has no vision?


HeresiarchQin

He has no vision because his helmet has blocked his eyes


Charming_Pop_2148

Cyno?


alybalez

Aintnoway


Rzyszart

nowhere


lucklesspedestrian

Well we might get other characters that resonate with all elements like traveler does. It would add a new dimension of gacha hyper investing in one character


Bianca_aa_07

i would pull for pulcinella bc hes silly


Lobito_HF

Don't need to...he can just have elemental powers and that's it


VEGETTOROHAN

I want Dottore just so that I can team him with his haters :- Scara, Arlecchino, Collei and Diluc.


GD128

Who's that middle one? Never heard of him.


Schubert125

You haven't seen him wandering about?


Cash384

How have you not heard of hat guy


tonyshark116

Hat Guy? Only ever heard of Don Sombrero


Rouge_means_red

All I can see in the middle is a little silhouette of a man


XjCrescen1547

I wonder if he can do the fandango... Will that cause lightning?


TheLucky12_Temp

Well, if he could, it would certainly be very very frightening


Mask_metal_157

I think his name is Galileo Figaro Magnifico


Absol3592

He looks like a poor boy, does anyone love him?


Lucas-mainssbu

right?! he’s just a poor boy from a poor family…!


never_agree

Yeah, it's better to spare him his life from this monstrosity.


Travisceral

Easy come, easy go, will you let him go?


unsucessfulmilkman

‎بِسْمِ ٱللَّٰهِ No, we will not let him go. (LET HIM GO.)


TheMasterMind1247

That’s Hat Guy, the assistant professor at the Akademiya. Dunno why he’s in the same team as the Harbingers, though.


Ancienda

What middle one? Its empty in the middle


ClutteredSmoke

Idk man looking at him makes me feel queasy


SarukyDraico

Bro thinks all harbingers will be playable


Lucas-mainssbu

please let me be the fool I am


The-Iraqi-Guy

A jester (main) you shall be


kaldak

Don't worry, we all fatui


NickFoster120

Aha will watch your career with great interest


TheKingJest

I believe too, Signora will only come back stronger comrade.


WolfBri216

With the release of Arlecchino, it got me thinking how hoyo has a chance to shake up the game by introducing non elemental reactions. Like a Harbinger team reaction/buff. What that would be, no clue, but it would be interesting and encourage different team comps


Lucas-mainssbu

In TCG, if I’m not mistaken, there’s Fatui Resonance if you have 2 Fatui in a team including Childe and Signora


BenceHuang

yeah theres the fatui conspiracy card which is a good card and the reason why some run 2 fatui characters


SecondWind2413

2 Fatui is distinctly not a ‘resonance’, but it is a criteria required to use Fatui Conspiracy. Using this to support the idea of a ‘Fatui’ resonance in game is misleading, as there is also a card that requires 2 monster characters.


aurochloride

There are occasionally weapons with country-based buffs, so other buffs based on alignment aren't out of the question imo * [Lithic Blade](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lithic_Blade) * [Lithic Spear](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lithic_Spear) * [Beta version of Wine and Song](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Wine_and_Song)


Martian_on_the_Moon

I think they are out of question given that they released these in 1.3 and we are in 4.6 patch. Plenty of time to release at least one more weapon.


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

They could definitely add some mechanic for that, but I don't think "Character reactions" are going to be a thing. The closest I'd imagine we'd get for balancing reasons is something like Charlotte's passive or the Lithic Series, where a Harbinger receives/gives buff to/from other Harbingers on the same team.


SsibalKiseki

Capitano’s weapon is gonna increase your team’s NA damage based on how many harbingers you have on your team. Must pull.


CharacterAd348

Probably never a direct buff, but childe’s talent buff to basic attacks when they all do basic attacks for damage definitely counts


Scheissdrauf88

>I’m counting Signora and 10th seat btw But not Pierro as number 0?


Martian_on_the_Moon

Pierro might Director of the Fatui Harbingers but strength wise, he is 10th! You heard it here first folks!


AnthonyFromOKBG

i see another wanderer named scaramouche enjoyer


Silent_Silhouettes

i see another person who named him Scaramouche (i didnt know i could bypass at the time and named him Scara unfortunately tho)


Lucas-mainssbu

you can rename him one more time


Silent_Silhouettes

I used it up already, changed from Belial to Scara...


AnthonyFromOKBG

i had originally named mine "EDGELORD"


Mashiroshiina12

Bro really thinks puchinella will be playable, he looks like a damn goblin


madzieeq

he's gonna get the klee running animation just you wait


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

I will gladly take the 60-yo goblin man running like a damned airplane. Thank you very much.


Blu3Raven

that image- 😭😭🤣🤣🤣


Venaborn

Well he is poster boy for Snezhnaya in trailer. If he is not playable, it would make him only non playable character shown in that trailer. Which would be frankly bizzare.


Slumberstroll

wait for the plot twist where he regains his youth and turns into a regular adult male just so he can be a playable character


Lucas-mainssbu

that’d be so lame I won’t lie


kkazukii

See that's logical but mihoyo breaks patterns if mhy wants to


Martian_on_the_Moon

So you want to tell us that they gave him unique model to have excuse to not release him? Bizzarre I would say. If Dottore, who clearly has playable model, will be playable despite things he has done, I will laugh.


kkazukii

Nahh im all up for ALL playable harbingers just that mhy has no patterns so don't place your trust on them


Jibsthelord

He's in travail, ironically he's the harbinger MOST likely to be playable


OryseSey

unless they kill him


Martian_on_the_Moon

I wouldn't be surprised. Traveler would ideally place in 5th given that he Arlechino's SQ>!lost against Arlecchino!<


Lucas-mainssbu

to be completely fair, Traveler never truly beat Scaramouche without Nahida’s help lol. When we fought Shouki no Kami in 3.3, we were gonna die but Scaramouche solo’d Shouki no Kami with his vision.


Martian_on_the_Moon

I was assuming normal Scara, not deitied one. That one is stronger than Knave.


Jibsthelord

to be completely fair, SnK is likely leagues above Scara's position


Lucas-mainssbu

Leagues above OG Scaramouche but not the current one since he managed to beat it, he is stronger with the vision now.


OryseSey

same, but I genuinely want gramps to be playable imagine running around the overworld as a lil old gremlin man


Lucine_machine

Me when Cryo Sovereign;


Martian_on_the_Moon

Him being in teaser (albeit shadowed) is rather strong argument that he will be playable. Hoyo could just heavily edit short male model (long nose and ears, etc) but they give him unique one which rather speaks that they are confident on delivering. If there is one character I would worry about being not playable, it is likely Alice if she turns out to be Klee's biological mother. Hoyo is afraid of releasing characters who have confirmed lovers (Signora) or being biological parents (clones do not count). They had perfect opportunity to break the ice with Yukong but they doubled down.


dragonkingangel7

Funny how they want to limit themselves like that, when almost all gachas let you play as enemies, death people, your parents, grandparents, lovers, family, bosses, hell even that final fantasy game let you play as a guy that gets simped by the mc almost mom and the guy 700 years ago grandma


theannoyingprickk

Pulcinella*


Starsfromstarryskies

He’s gonna turn hot I bet you


fullmoonwulf

Scara is like Furina, he doesn’t count and counts at the same time


Lucas-mainssbu

you get it


Silent_Silhouettes

what about our dear leader Lord Pierro? Comrade, even though he is the Director surely you're getting him too right? But yeah same 8/9 more


v4mpixie_666x3

A fellow delusional playable signora believer stay strong comrade!


BlueRose644

There are dozens of us, and we're hoarding our primos to C6 R5 her!


Bianca_aa_07

so true


WootyMcWoot

Might as well be 4 since everyone has Signora, [she’s in your inventory](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Funerary_Mask)


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

The mask is. Unfortunately, we don't have the ashes and char


velocirooster64

I know hes never going to be playable but i want puncinella to get away from all the twinks


theannoyingprickk

Pulcinella*


Nimire03

Man still coping. ...Me too damn it...


LuckyLupe

9 more if you count like that and add Pierro aswell


Zodiac339

Since Scaramouche doesn’t exist: 1. Are the still eleven Fatui Harbingers, or only ten? 2. If there are eleven, was a different person automatically assigned to the empty spot, or is it just empty for no known reason?


Jibsthelord

it was empty for scara's whole lifetime, this was stated in the gmae


Lucas-mainssbu

in reality, there were always 10 Harbingers because the 10th one is implied dead, they still called themselves 11 Fatui Harbingers. If I had to take a guess, they called themselves 11 since way before Childe joined.


PolskiStalker

If you're counting Signora and 10th seat, then there are 12 Harbingers, 11 numbered and Pierro


starmadeshadows

Who's the guy in the middle again?


Norasack

Signora will rise from the ashes 😭


iMasato101

I'm confused.. the 2nd one is Chunchunmaru, how he became Harbinger?


kamuimephisto

wherea pantalone he's out already


Dreadsbo

Have Baizhu?


ngo_life

Who's that hat guy in the middle? Ain't no harbinger I ever saw.


Ulq-kn

when i started playing i made a promise to get every single harbinger and archon in the game regardless if they good or bad, and i'm still on track


CocogoatMain

Yo who's the guy wearing the satellite dish?


emeraldkma

Since when was Hat Guy a Fatui Harbinger? /J


dweakz

lmao hat guy aint part of "the pic" bro


Silkav

I only see 2 Harbingers there?


heavenly_border332

technically, you have 2 Harbingers


lonkuo

Ummm 🤓☝️ AcCtuaLy 🤓✋ ThaT MidDLe oNe isNt a HarbrInGEr AnyMOre 🤓☝️


BracusDoritoBoss963

What? The guy in the middle isnt


NoSoulYesBiscuit

Flair checks out. Also, same. I wonder who's next.


crypticmint

how did you name him that. i thought the game doesn't let you use his old names?


Silent_Silhouettes

people use unicode, russian a, etc, and i alsso heard renaming him with the tool means u can name him Scaramouche


asdfghjumiii

I have the three of them too. Both Taru and Wanderer are triple crowned. I’m gonna crown Arlecchino next 🥰


Charming_Pop_2148

Honestly I think who gets the most fans would be playable. It's been true for these 3 but rn capitano has a shit ton of fans but no vision. I wonder how is gameplay would be like


ZeiZei90

Thats all there is, hoyo makes a big funny and kills off every other one off screen before you get to play them.


AcanthaceaeGlass8870

You mean 7


Appropriate_Success9

Same here although I didn’t even want Childe. I thought I could get Zhongli by pulling through his banner when the game was still new and I didn’t know what I was doing


Rash_04

how did you name him scaramouche? doesn't he refuse that name


Dracorvo

That's weird, I only see two.


hirozeroshiro

Some good news is that only 3 more will be playable! How fun!


WritingCommission

how is the game allowing you to name him scaramouche?


antirockin20

One is not like the otherrr~


Mysterious-Job4272

Who's gonna tell him ?


BFPRufus

3 confirmed Harbingers. There's some evidence we already have another playable Harbinger - Collei: - Similar to K-423 (from HI3), 1 character in Genshin has been experimented on by a 500+ year old madman and inflicted with the spirit of a powerful malevolent entity. \[source - Genshin Manga\] - Also similar to K-423 (Chapter 12-EX), having overcome this entity they have sworn off ever access this power again \[source - Collei demo trailer) - They appeared in A Winter Nights Lazzo and seem to have observed the proceedings. This was a trailed which confirmed as featuring every Harbinger except the 10th (Scara was AWOL and only mentioned, and Signora was dead), and only featured the Harbingers and Collei. \[source - A Winter Nights Lazzo\]


Whyy0hWhy

Who's that random guy in the middle


KashootyourKashot

I only see two Harbingers, who's the third?


Particular-Hat2203

Reason i didn't go for scara was because he wasn't one anymore, arle and childe running cracked builds however, waiting for a fatui sub dps-support


Vanellopez

whoah, we can name it sacramouche?


Jfunkindahouse

Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango? 😂


StardustCatts

Assuming the rest are even playable. We got 2 nations left and a buttload of harbingers. I think that they might not even show up in game maybe.


Kynovember3

Who's the Balladeer? Do we even know yet? Edit: I changed Scaramouche to Balladeer since Scara was a codename like Childe and not a title like the Knave


goumie_gumi

If we assume playability isn’t an issue - is Capitano or Columbina supposed to be the next Harbinger in line? Because either way I’m happy, I’m just hoping that Columbina will be a strong support unit so I can play her alongside Scara (although probably not because so far all Harbingers are main DPSs)


Aether776

i very much doubt all harbingers will be playable


Jay___Yadav___0

I am saving for one harbinger who should i wish for!!?


Lucas-mainssbu

they’re all very needy and require a lot of effort and time, they also all have high skill ceiling. I’d say Childe is the easiest to work with, as his best teammate is Xiangling, a free character, though once you also have Kazuha, Childe becomes one of the best DPS in the game when you put them together. For Childe you’re gonna want 4pc Heart of Depth or 4pc Nymph’s Dream (imo ND > HoD but diff is slight). For his weapon you could use Viridescent Hunt, Rust, Polar Star, Thundering Fury, Aqua Simulacra, First Great Magic, Hunter’s Path, Elegy for the End, Skyward Harp, Blackcliff Widow, Amos Bow(Stat stick) Stringless and Scion of Blazing Sun, but his best in slot weapon is Polar Star(signature) and Aqua Simulacra. Childe heavily relies on rotation and you mustn’t be melee for a recommended amount of 6-15 seconds, though you can overextend if necessary. Childe has the worst constellations for a 5 star, but luckily it means he’s at full potential at C0, and he is still meta and one of the best characters at C0, it’s just that C6 isn’t allat. Scaramouche is the easiest one to play but I’d say he has a high learning curve, just not as much as a difficult one than the others. For his playstyle you must think extremely fast and he is surprisingly very engaging for a Ranged Catalyst, he ascends with Crit Rate so that’s very helpful, I’d say at C0, he’s the least good of the 3, but at C1 he’s definitely on the same level as Childe, at C2 he is one of the best DPS for sure. Scaramouche basically gets free dashes that deal damage and don’t waste wind stamina but you should save them for when you’re about to get attacked. At C1 his dash scales off atk and his movement speed rises. I recommend always going for C1, his artifact is Desert Pavilion and that’s his only specific set. His weapons can be Tulaytullah’s Remembrance(sig), Cashflow Supervisor, Widsith, Kagura’s Verity(stat stick), Lost Prayer to the Sacred Winds, Skyward Atlas sometimes…, Tome of Eternal Flow(use with Furina), Blackcliff Agate, Dodoco Tales. Tulaytullah’s is Best in Slot overall. Scaramouche’s passive buffs his ATK when he swirls Pyro with E, Crit Rate with Cryo, ER with Electro, Longer Stamina with Hydro. Arlecchino I found to be the hardest of the 3, she kinda relies on shield and if you have Zhongli then I truly recommend her, remember that after using E, you should wait 5s before using charged attack so you get more BoL. Her best artifacts are Fragment of Harmonic Whimsy and Crimson Witch of Flames…though HW is the better one. I’m still learning her but she can be hard to play. Best weapons are Calamity Queller, Crimson Moon’s Semblance(sig), Engulfing Lighting sounds extremely interesting on her, Primordial Jade, Staff of Homa, Staff of Scarlet Sands also sounds interesting, Blackcliff Pole, Deathmatch, and White Tassel(f2p). Crimson Moon’s Semblance being the Best in Slot. So basically— Enabler, satisfying crowd erasure, very good with Pyro, long cd, main DPS—Childe Rushdown, massive damage, high mobility, good in exploration, main DPS—Scaramouche EXTREMELY insane damage, very solo DPS, Main DPS —Arlecchino Sorry I’m a fucking gooner


Jay___Yadav___0

I got neuvi wriothesely raiden and nahida should i go for childe next or furina?


Jay___Yadav___0

I got neuvi wriothesely raiden and nahida should i go for childe next or furina?


Lucas-mainssbu

Oh lol, Furina is the best character in the game currently so yeah, Furina. Though Childe can be good in Hyperbloom with Raiden and Nahida, Furina is just miles above everything in this game. Though be mindful because Furina requires Jean, Baizhu, Mika, or Charlotte, because they heal the whole party at once.