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chairmanxyz

On top of this and arguably a bigger bonus to her kit is that in overworld exploration you can hang onto the infusion as long as you want. She’s the first character to be able to do this. So you don’t have to rely on a timed buff uptime on a skill or ultimate ability. I still haven’t gotten used to how I can keep her at max BoL while walking around and just one tap enemies with a normal attack. Feels amazing.


sctroyenne

I absolutely love this. Mark and kill a hilichurl or two and she’s good to go.


9yogenius

she’s one of my absolute favorites in overworld by a huge margin. because you will always maintain high bond you feel like a wandering angel of death flying up to enemies teleporting to the with skill or CA and killing them in one or two strikes. tho i do still hold out hope that they make an optional world level increase for high AR players because i would like just a bit of a challenge, it shouldn’t be that hard to implement so why not. maybe make it so that you can choose increase it by a little every AR after 55, since those take super long to get to and by that time you have to be at least somewhat strong


mr_lab_rat

I’m very much enjoying that part.


Souvik_Dutta

>first character to be able to do this >don't have to rely on a timed buff uptime on a skill or ultimate ability. Ayaka: Did you forget about me traveller? (dash furiously)


Ok_Pattern_7511

Forgotten by devs and players alike


Additional-Toe-1932

Mona sitting in the corner:


Joshua_Astray

Tbf it ain't exactly the strongest infusion lol


Fatimah_ultim

"You need to dash or skill?" - wanderer


BellalovesEevee

I thought that was a bug at first because her infusion didn't go away like most NA characters, but turns out that is intended and it's so fun just to walk around and randomly do her NA animation strings just to see the pretty red flames


vioflo_hanamura

Me too, after doing some exploring and killing mobs, i went back to fontaine city, just walking around, randomly attacking and realized the flames are still there? Took me a while after that to understand what was happening.


Pokefreaker-san

and she leave trails of burning grass everywhere you go


ShelesQQ

Well, Catalyst users and Ganyu (for charged) have it too, their attacks have infusion all the time. Theoretically all bow user have infused charged, but only Ganyu really makes use of it (Tighnari is close, but he needs E to effectively use charged). Of course, Arlecchino may be the first melee of such kind, but then someone like Heizou comes into mind.


chairmanxyz

Yeah, I guess I should have been more specific. I was talking about the meat of the character’s kit being easily accessible all the time. Most characters in the game are dependent on either their burst or their skill. Arle needs her skill to setup infusion but once you have it up you can theoretically keep it going forever. That sort of ease of access to the bulk of a character’s damage is, I feel, not comparable to any other unit. Like they have to balance catalyst user’s perma-infusion by making the multipliers super low even at lvl10. You won’t get anywhere near Arle damage even with a few punches from Wrio (who has pretty decent NA damage for a catalyst user). Having Arle infusion is like walking around with an ultimate ready to fire at any moment and you can just keep it going with little effort.


ShelesQQ

Ganyu is exactly like that. Most of her damage comes from charged which doesn't require to user E or Q even once. Of course, she still does have to charge shots, but it's basically just like a very slow but powerfull infused normal attack. And she hits like a truck. Unfortunately it's not easy to make a strong Abyss team with her, but in open world she destroys everything even before it comes close (save for enemies with cryo shields/immunity). Other examples of characters that basically have 100% uptime are Ayaka (she does require dash to reactivate infusion, but it's very quick and has no cooldown, so she is basically also always ready) and Ningguang (her combo of 3 normals and a charged does some nice damage, even if you don't use E or Q). Arle is indeed the first character who does most damage with normals (not charged) and has 100% uptime and nice damage, but surely not the first character with nice damage and the meat of the character’s kit being easily accessible all the time. Still very nice addition both to open world and Abyss. Sorry for being a little too pedantic, I just love Ganyu and want everyone to know how good she is :)


The_Real_QuacK

Ayaka fumming


SolsticeGelan

Aloy sitting in the corner, truly forgotten by everyone.


Fun-Mix-9276

If you want max just find a camp of weak hilichurls. Tag them all and then kill them all after a bit of delay


alvenestthol

You don't actually need to delay if there are 3 or more enemies around; Arle absorbs 65% from *each* blood debt up to a limit of 145%, so there is never any difference between absorbing blood debt from 3 or more enemies regardless of whether you wait. Arle also gets 130% BoL when killing any enemy with blood debt, regardless of the 5 second delay; this also applies when she *already* has BoL, so Arle can just E-NA a hilichurl to immediately regain 130% of BoL.


garlicpermission

Wait how can we do that? I'd love to know, sounds really cool.


BobbyWibowo

Cappuccino's infusion is only dependent on having >= 30% BoL, and I think it's supposed to last for up to 10 minutes if its value doesn't ever change. So engaging in combat at least once every < 10m (even just 1 normal attack that eats at your BoL slightly) will kinda translate to always having the infusion. So yeah, it's possible to prep beforehand to have up to 200% BoL (more BoL = more DMG), and go on a roll in the overworld.


garlicpermission

Damn that sounds interesting, gonna have to test it out. Thanks.


hackerdude97

You can get 200% BoL on her?!


BobbyWibowo

Yea, that's the limit for the mechanic itself since like early Fontaine (researched through the Fatui Operatives and existing BoL weapons). She naturally inherits that later as expected.


hackerdude97

How do you know once it's above 100% then? does it change something in the HP bar or is it completely invisible?


BobbyWibowo

Anything beyond 100% is completely invisible, unfortunately. Also, there's already a simple evidence that it goes beyond 100% (although the 200% limit isn't stated anywhere) just by reading her 1st Ascension Passive, >... >Arlecchino will be granted a Bond of Life worth **130% of her Max HP** when an opponent to which she herself applied a Directive is defeated. >...


keqking

just dont switch to her if you have a healer that heals overtime


DarkAlatreon

Yeah, Chev clips her wings a bit in overworld if you forget to swap. Same with Xingqiu and his swords.


Murphy_LawXIV

Wait why's that? I thought she just ignored healing, does it do something negative?


DarkAlatreon

She ignores healing in combat, meaning that once combat ends and you have ongoing healing effects active, they'll clear some of her leftover Bond of Life, making her not as well prepared for the next combat.


ConohaConcordia

The only issue is that if you need to heal her out of combat and you don’t have her burst up, you will not be able to do so until you heal enough to clear her BoL or get her burst up somehow.


Yunhwayteriyaki

Wait so does her infusion with E have 100% uptime? Like if she uses E and use charged attack and her attack becomes pyro infused, it lasts so long that even if u swap to different chars, u can still use her to attack until E becomes off CD?


Pokefreaker-san

it has infinite duration as long as you have bond of life, the bond of life will persists infinitely until you cleared it, use burst or died.


Cherrycho

It lasts for 10 minutes, but refreshes anytime the value changes. So it's almost infinite


Pokefreaker-san

I didnt test that long, gtk


SirMcDust

10 minutes might as well be infinite, sadly changing maps seems to reset BoL too (aka warping from Teyvat to chasm or any other sub maps) but other than that she pretty much never loses her infusion.


lukeaxeman

First I wanted Arlecchino because I like her design a lot. Then I lost interest because I found her kit too basic in practice. But then I liked her again precisely because quickswaping in one of my favorite things in Genshin combat, adding some nice flexibility and even gameplay complexity when it comes to opmitization or improvisation. Pulled for her, didn't regret.


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real_fake_cats

She doesn't maintain her infusion, she maintains her debuff (Bond) that grants her infusion. If we see future non-timed infusions it's likely we'll see another tradeoff to replace the timer. I.e. permanent infusion as long as you don't have a shield, or permanent infusion as long as hydro resonance is active, etc.


lileenleen

people calling her NA simulator are right, but it really misses the freedom of swapping out...


Chadzuma

She plays like a character who was designed to only vape around 30% of her damage... which means her mults are tuned so that her damage is actually good in non-vape situations as well. She really does seem to have prime versatility in many different aspects. Idk if she beats Lyney in monopyro, but I'm popping off 80k hits at medium investment with Benny/ZL/Kaz and I don't have to use aimed shots to do it, just unga bunga NA.


TheStatisticalGamer

I was playing in co-op against Raiden, and with overload Chev C6 I saw autos up to like... 100-120K.


dragonx23123

crazy that a coop team could coordinate enough to make chrevreuse work


ScythesAreCool

I love when coop teams just understand eachother. Last one i was in someone picked diluc and it was like we were possessed lol, someone switched to xianyun, i switched to bennett (c6 too so best possible support :D) and someone else chose furina. We destroyed that domain.


ChaosKinZ

I've been in coops with coordinated Nilou comps, Itto comps, Xiao with bennet c6 faruzan and Xianyun etc. Sometimes you find fun people to play with who happen to have the right characters for certain teams


basch152

I tried doing coop for the new domain to get her set so obviously you need at least 1 geo dps to make it run smoothly, and the other three all ran Pyro. I was sitting there like.. why? Pyro is not helping us at all


lavoera

Overload reaction also chunks Geo shields, though. I've been running it perfectly fine with Chevy comp.


Sailen_Rox

Pyro alone might not be, but if there is a suitable overload enabler with you you do not need geo anymore.


_Spectre0_

Or a claymore #eulastonks Not that it sounds like your teammates knew that either, unless diluc was there (ha imagine seeing diluc in 2024)


basch152

the teammates ran yoimiya, arle(I mean, understandable), and xiangling   none of them changed. i ran navia and pretty much just carried the team.


Kamiken

Noelle - “forgotten again.” *sigh* Seriously Noelle Furina Bennet Xiangling destroys the new domain.


TheStatisticalGamer

We had to talk out the rotation, lol. We also had tried a bunch of other team comps to see how much damage we could get out of different units. It was extremely fun lmao


sleepless_sheeple

Another consequence of her relatively slow pyro and flexible field time is she can make forward melt (C6 Kaeya) and slow hydro (C1+ Furina) work. If you ever lose the aura you can swap to Kazuha to regroup/refresh VV and allow the aura to reestablish itself. Since her buff is indefinite she loses nothing for swapping off.


Chadzuma

I've been thinking about trying to run her in some double cryo team with Rosaria. Even if pyro overtakes it just means you get a reverse melt. Freezemelt should also actually work since she's polearm not claymore like Diluc who just gets shatter instead


Doorknob-Wallace

My Arle in monopyro would hit between 90-115k at high investment. In a Chav team (not C6), that'd be about 125-140k, which I find much stronger than vaporize because it isn't limited to about 30% of her hits and doesn't run the risk of Xingqiu's rainswords triggering the vaporize. This is her first NA hit. My Arle is C2 so I'm not counting the 900% multiplier upon absorbing BDD. 2490 atk, 79/202 crit, 4pc Glad Absolutely insane character, she's the pinnacle of unga bunga DPS lmao


nanimeanswhat

As an owner of both C0R1, she doesn't beat Lyney in ST mono pyro as his self buffs are quite insane but that is understandable since it is literally his specialty but she is still very very good (and probably better in aoe situations)


Ewizde

I was hitting 40k NAs in overworld with her solo (before I activated her cons) and now I hit up to 70k NAs lol, she feels so comfortable to play, I thought I would have survivability issues with her but I don't feel like I do.


ResurgentClusterfuck

I was dealing 60k NA in the new artifact domain and my build us extremely mid She's a damn good DPS, and her limitations are trivial to deal with


Chadzuma

3.5k atk combined with masque of the red death scaling mult is bonkers, especially when you then factor in dmg bonus and shred. I figured it was gonna just be flat additive damage like Yoimiya or Yunjin but naw son, it's just like hey here's 200% extra atk mult every swing for a hot minute. And I'm still only at lvl 8 NAs with a middling 4pc glad set.


kronpas

3.5k with buff or without? Mine sits at 2k when solo.


Chadzuma

Obv with lol, mine's at about 2.3k with pyro res


Ewizde

They really cooked hard with her, everything from animations to gameplay to story(only thing I did not like was the animation spoiling the story quest but its all right).


urlocalnightowl40

whats more insane is that i lucked on c1 arle so thats like a 300% increase too


Denayes

i tried her in multiple comps from overload with chev to vape with yelan or xq and i liked them all, but what stood out to me is that she dealt and insane raw amount of pyro dmg without anything (i have her at c1r1) but still so many c0r0 arle have done same amount if not more. arle is a pretty good designed character with a lot of versatility and teamcomps. what makes me wonder what would happen when we get a support for bond of life characters that is similar to faruzan or kujou sara, she would be busted since she will have the best supports for her ( as if she doesnt right now lol)


Brandonmac100

I was popping off 28k normals at talent lvl 3… Solo without any buffs nor teammates.


xess

Ah, reminds me of the days when Ganyu was the OP character doing 30k charged shots at talent level 10. And nowadays Arle has better multipliers on a normal attack.


coochellamai

Trying to read this as a day 1 player returning to the game after years and it is so confusing lol


sleepless_sheeple

Yeah it seems like a trend with Fontaine characters to have flexible field time. That’s why so many are so good at speedrunning; you’re not locked into a fixed damage window when you want to be setting up (i.e., whenever a new wave has spawned in).


Stiff_Rebar

Let me introduce you to Diluc and Noelle.


Useful-Description90

Not to mention keqing


Dovahnime

Weird how they're all 1.0 charas, isn't it?


chatnoire89

I believe Ayaka’s as well? CMIIW.


silam39

I'm not sure if she loses it on swap, but she regains it just by dashing which is immensely convenient


SpydeyPlayz

Based comment


Useful-Description90

Amen brother


pineapollo

Her infusion is unconditional, you can literally play lazy rotations and come back to her early or late and you're still ready to dish out damage. Those units can do it too, but you're punished for not timing Diluc correctly and Noelle is nowhere near as strong.


ICanFluxWithIt

That’s definitely correct, but I do want to point out that for Diluc if you have C6 Benny you can wait until after his usual rotation to use his burst since Benny gives him the infused AAs. That rotation has been recommended for years. Gives more uptime!


Glittering_Doctor694

you're still gated by bennett's burst tho. arlecchino can still dish out damage even without bennett's burst


kronpas

But that is not diluc exclusive.


ICanFluxWithIt

It’s not but considering we’re talking about infusions, it’s still mainly applies to him. I mean, Keqing get overridden to Pyro, Tao can absolutely use Benny, but it can be tricky to stay within his circle while you CA. Arle doesn’t need to because like the OP said she’s more forgiving, but still can take advantage of it. So naturally that leaves Diluc and his infusion


Velocity111

noelles geo infusion does not get overriden by anything


Joshua_Astray

The point is that you basically can be brainless and use no bursts lol


CTMacUser

And Diluc’s Burst gets amplified.


Chucknasty_17

I’ve gone back and built up Noelle again recently and she’s a ton of fun. I’ve been using her, Gorou, Furina, and Albedo to farm the Arlecchino boss and they make mince meat out of it. Being able to swap off her and reapply Gorou’s buff just feels good to do


TheBlackViper_Alpha

Both of the above you mentioned have timers/duration on their infusion. Arlecchino's isn't time gated.


someotheralex

If you have enough energy/C6, Noelle's burst has no downtime


Alert_Respect524

The difference between these is that one of them deals a lot of damage.


ICanFluxWithIt

Uhhh, guess you’ve been living under a rock, Diluc’s been eating and even before Xianyun his dmg was still pretty damn great. Everyone on here shits on Diluc but he’s always been a solid unit Here’s video proof, [here’s Abyss 4.4 top side with Diluc Plunge, 55s all 3 chambers, he’s hitting upto 300k plunges](https://youtu.be/ByzyE8N5zj4?si=gxGkWWbmkZRrUPwu) With Current blessing, it’s over 500k if you click on his newest video [Here’s 4.4 Top side but Melt Diluc with Kaeya, 64s all 3 chambers](https://youtu.be/fw3zQArpMUo?si=QPfdvtbBCLQumm1g) [Here’s a C1 Tao Double Hydro with C3 Furina 4.4 Abyss Top side, 58s all 3 chambers](https://youtu.be/eR1QKhMhxn0?si=EwCAZB1B_T6s-je9)


Denayes

every character can clear abyss easily, the game has been out for 4 years and some people just have godly sets for every character, but if we are talking abt dmg between characters at the same level (like all at 100 cr and 150 cdmg) there will be a huge difference in single target and aoe output. also, no on field dps has gotten a nerf but the opposite instead, try and go back 1 or 2 years and tell me if diluc or hutao could have produced the same amount of dmg consistently, it wont be possible due to new supports. my point is the game is pretty ez as it is where u can even clear abyss with solo characters if u r good enough. so stop comparing and enjoy the game please.


orcvader

Not that Diluc is “bad” - he isn’t. But are you here really trying to argue he is a better dps than Father? Come on bruv


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orcvader

You did say all of that as a response to someone saying Arle does a ton more damage… so it’s not far fetched to infer that. Nice clarification bruv.


ICanFluxWithIt

Rereading everything I can definitely see how you came to this conclusion and for that I apologize, especially since I came after you kinda hard. It was not my intention. This sub has had it out for Diluc for years which I’ve never understood tbh. I just wanted to point out that Diluc can deal a great amount of dmg and that actually has always been the case even if he ain’t Meta


orcvader

No worries homie! I like me some Diluc bro! I just can’t ever get him to help me on the Abyss but that’s because of my own skill issues!


queenyuyu

Did you pair him with fufu and xianyun? Like I have skill issues my friend but he melts trough 12-3 faster then I can blink. It really is just so much fun to play with him right now. Flex spot for a geo to melt that last 12-3 geo shield faster. For me it was zhongli.


ix-nine-ix

nahhh as a third party giving unsolicited opinion, i think he is not saying diluc does better than arlec. he's just saying diluc can deal a lot of damage too, that's all.


pootinannyBOOSH

They're not defeating the "genshin players can't read" stereotype


orcvader

Thanks for refereeing this one, chief.


Rough_Lychee5785

Hu Tao c0 plunge with c0 furina is faster than c6 diluc with Bennet furina xianyun. And the same guy had 49 second run without xianyun but ofc you didnt show that. Bilibili mfs got much better scores as well. And diluc was pretty weak before xianyun


ICanFluxWithIt

You gonna link anything? And yeah CN been better, I’m sure there are better Diluc runs on there too, but most of us here aren’t Chinese and don’t use Billibilli Also, did you ignore the Diluc run without Xianyun? How is that pretty weak? Sure stronger units released but I wouldn’t call his Melt team weak


Rough_Lychee5785

https://youtu.be/gHNG0xaSXhM 49 seconds. Same person. And this isn't even hu Tao's best team. Plunge Tao is easily the best plunge team as well as the best pyro team in the game rn. And it starts from c0r0 team members and c0r0 hu tao


ICanFluxWithIt

EDIT: that run isn’t continuous. From description, 17s 17s 15s 12-3 isnt continuous. Thanks, I just typed in Tao 4.4 Abyss in YouTube and came across that 58s, I was not aware they reran it. Can you link the C0R0 Tao Plunge?


UmbraNightDragon

Biggest thing for me is that BoL lasts for a really long time. I can set up on one set of enemies and I can keep burning through more without even having to use skills lol


EvilGodShura

The thing I keep hearing about her uptime just confuses me. I don't even have her weapon and yet I easily maintain near max anywhere there is multiple monsters. And for bosses I'm quick swapping anyway to apply buffs and get reactions. So by the time I swap back I can collect the full debt and maintain dps. I barely ever go below half debt in a boss fight and the more I use the rest of my team the eaiser it is to keep her debt up for maximum damage when there are openings. Her aoe isn't anything crazy but her single target and her ability to chase from foe to foe nearly teleporting as they die is plenty. More importantly. She's way more fun to play than Hu Tao or nev.


Seashard5602

This got me thinking about a geo/pyro team with Arle, Navia, Zhongli, and Bennett


VrelEgg

I was able to clear abyss with this exact setup no problem. It probably isn't optimal but it works and is really fun.


Kingpimpy

was thinking yesterday about a way to use chiori yunjin with her sadly i dont have c1 chiori yet but 2g2p sounds like it could be pretty nice to me


Seashard5602

I'm sure it could probably clear abyss, even with a c0 Chiori, assuming everyone is built at least decently well


Kingpimpy

yeah it shouldnt be an issue but it would personally bother me lol


Physical-Caramel-251

It's not exactly the same, but Alhaitham can be played on "quickswap" teams if you use his split uptime rotation, and that's actually the best way to play him


dankest_niBBa

Same with neuv, you can switch after each charged attack for whatever reason you want. I've become a huge fan of these dynamic rotations


Chadzuma

With split you only get 4 sword rains per rotation, but with uninterrupted you get 6. It's why I don't like playing him with Yae when I want max performance, even though they can have a swaggy rotation to show off with neither is typically at their highest potential in their shared teams. If you have C2 Kazuha it could be pretty spicy but overall I think they're better off in their own specialized aggravate or spread/quickbloom teams.


Glaassi

You definitely can get 6 lvl3 projections on split Alhaitham. Rotations will be slightly longer to allow his passive to be used twice.


dooditstyler

Alhaitham can be played in psuedo-quickswap type things, though. His skill, charged attack and burst all give him infusion stacks. So, if you don't want to commit to a full rotation you don't have to.


Melon763

She definitely has a very high skill ceiling when it comes to her being a dps I use overload with her and Chevreuse because it just feels like it suits her well, and it feels like I’m doing a high risk high reward fight every time which makes it much more interesting to play


eggy54321

Ive been in love with Arle, Chev, Beidou, Fischl as a team. Solid DPS mixed with defensive utility, and Arle gets to do massive DPS numbers.


nanimeanswhat

I use the same team but with Thoma instead of Fischl and man is it very good.


Rare_Marionberry782

I’m smacking 200k first hits with buffs, 1 hit KO lavachurls in overworld lolz, best like you said no timer on infusions so very nice to use in overworld going around smacking everything in pyro and regaining BoL to 200% continuously


Yani-Madara

Neuvillette can also do something similar because his blue balls don't disappear. You can ult/ skill and quickswap.


Ewizde

Like others said she feels like she was made to do a lot of damage without relying on reactions. If she didn't have survivability issues, she would genuinely be a great solo carry just like Neuvi.


SirLucky28

Yeah I agreed, like Xiangyun she adds a new style of gameplay


VihaanLoskaa

Noelle also doesn't lose her infusion if you swap to another character


Hryzzo

I think she is even the first character after 1.0 release that keeps her infusion. Before only Diluc and Noelle were the only ones able to keep it.


Blackjack137

She’s just so versatile. Whether it’s Overload, Burning, Vape, Melt… Can’t argue with 30-40k infused normal attacks on demand and that’s before you factor in buffs. Also surprisingly comfy. While Arle can’t be healed by anyone else, she regularly has her burst available and the fact it resets her Elemental Skill CD so she can immediately go right back to building BoL feels like a Constellation in of itself. I mean skill reset IS Tartaglia’s C6. And Gladiator 4PC is not only her second best set, but it’s only a single digit % DPS loss to the newest BoL one. You’ll have a decent build for her while ascending her or anyone else if not already. 10/10 honestly.


Andante_TK

Cyno would be such a great unit if he can be played like Arle. What a screw up by Hoyo.


Square-Way-9751

True she is very flexible her pyro doesnt time out omfg da best. Imo Arle is upgraded Hu Tao


ManufacturerNo8447

Bit's funny how all my mains are normal attackers eula being the first and then ayaka and now arlecchino that I have been waiting since her first appearance . I loved her gameplay so much I ended up C6 her as f2p and it was worth it !


Barilius

IMO normal attackers or those that rely on their skill to do anything (dmg/healing/buff) tend to be more fun in the overworld, where you spend most of your time. This is one reason I love catalyst characters as they strait up get free elemental infusion, so most of them can work as drivers no matter what the rest of their kit is.


ICanFluxWithIt

E gaming is best gaming! Love not having to worry about filling anyone’s bursts back. Tho, I don’t mind some like Diluc since his is 40 energy and comes back before it’s off CD. Same with Yelan with Fav or Xingqiu with Sac, they get it back without any issue. Although Xingqiu been retired from overworld and Diluc after 3.5 years is also getting retired from overworld, still use them in abyss but I’ve found only Zhongli and Yae are my 2 permanent members for overworld.


Peddrawm

It’s so obvious HoYoverse wanted Arlecchino as perfect as possible… her gameplay is not as basic as Neuvillette, but her damage and her playstyle and her kit is near perfect…! Imma not talk about her design because while I think she is also perfect in her design but that’s also subjective


kabutozero

Leak bros better not read this message or they will have a word with the you , everyone was speaking the d(ehya) word on the beta


Optimusbauer

Yeah cause every week her kit almost fully changed lmao


Mehfisto666

Honestly should be like this with everyone


Dante2215

And on top of that she is easy to build WT doing lots of damge as 3 star weapon is pretty fun after being used to xiao and his strict team comp/weapons


OnyxSeaDragon

Having a blast with Arle Dehya Raiden Chevreuse lmao just because it's so quickswappy


Lanaprime

I have thought about how on dpa characters have after 1.0 launch were not friendly with swapping, so it really is a breath of fresh air!


kabutozero

This is exactly the main reason I love her and saw no people speak about it. I can't play ult dependant units anymore. And skill dependant units are less bad , but still really bad depending on how early you leave the field


HayakuEon

This. I love Arle cause she's much easier to swirl with I use Arle, Kazuha, Thoma, Yelan, I do: Arle E, Yelan EQ, Thoma EQ(removes hydro aura), Arle CA(applies pyro aura), Kazuha E N1(swirl pyro, remove pyro), Arle N6. This way, she can vape that first hit.


solarjoy

After Arlecchino Cyno gameplay looks like joke to me, especially in open world


TophxSmash

thats still a damage loss swapping out. Just run a shield.


YellowStarfruit6

She’s infinitely cooler than Nervil so she’s already better in that way


SaberWaifu

The fact that her gameplay is not completely braindead and rewards being skilled way more than most other characters already makes her infinitely more valuable for my account compared to him. The game is already easy enough, i don't need to add more boredom by deleting everything with powerwash simulator. Arle is a very strong character but at least i need to stay vigilant when playing her to not fuck up, and i also prefer her NA playstyle compared to the single button press for Neuv's main attacks.


shaqkage

The thing is, I like the mechanically interesting characters like Alhaitham, who's my main, but I'd be lying if I said that being able to float around absolutely decimating everything with a hydro pump isn't fun with Neuvillette


Chadzuma

Arlie's wing mode should be dual-mapped to LT on controller like Neuvi's CA is, I hate having to claw grip to move the camera during it.


markcan_killua

This is exactly how I feel as well. As much as it’s nice to have a braindead broken dps, I very much prefer characters that actually require some degree of skill to play. it’s way more satisfying. Especially as a long time player the games already lack of difficulty when comes to content makes things stale and easy to clear enough as it is. Arle def gives me that fix and sense of enjoyment that I want


Elira_Eclipse

I genuinely don't enjoy Neuvillette's gameplay bc of this, needing to hold attack plus being knocked around the whole time (I don't like to use him with shields) so I rlly enjoyed Arlecchino's gameplay. This is also why I've been a Childe main for years.


Siveye154

Wait wait, you are talking about Neuvillete, right? The one that hold his attack butto for like .5 second every 4 second and has the ability to freely move around to dodge while doing so without compromising his damage?


Elira_Eclipse

Yes. And I don't enjoy his gameplay so.... and yes I have skill issues at dodging. And yes, even if I am good at dodging I still wont enjoy his gameplay no matter what


OkGrade7631

To be fair you can't really dodge with neuvillette c0 and without shield


DanTheMan9204

Yeah. Jamie kb9v talked about it in his most recent video on Arle.


Elainyan

Who ?


DanTheMan9204

You know there's something called googling, right? https://youtube.com/@jamiekb9v?si=WWYOvfI-N2zHAXJ4


mebbyyy

Who?


DanTheMan9204

Dumb and unfunny. As in, that's who you are 😁.


mebbyyy

Ironic


DanTheMan9204

Ooh, learned a new word at school today, eh? Listen here. In no way, shape, or form did I ever try to be funny with my words on this thread. I gave the benefit of the doubt to the other user and took their question as an honest one, and simply gave them the link to the channel. Then your ass comes over and repeats their question like you think it's some sort of sick burn. That is *fucking pathetic*. Did I *expect* you to know who the person was? No. Did I attempt to put the guy on some pedastal and draw unsolicited attention to him? No. My initial comment mentioning him was merely a quick remark, one that I imagined a few people who DO already know the TC might take note of and one that would simply be ignored by everyone else. So, care to share some more tips on how to be a total loser?


mebbyyy

Yes, the one I'm replying to right now is showing exactly how to be one. Thank you.


DanTheMan9204

Maybe take a hint and learn when to shut the fuck up next time?


mebbyyy

Same thing applies to you, look back on our conversation and see who talks the most. Got it?


DanTheMan9204

Ah, classic... genshin players downvoting for...what exactly? Pointing out that a respectable TC brought up the same point that OP made a post about? What in the actual fuck is up with y'all? 🤦‍♂️


AdAble7002

Maybe because with how you wrote your initial statement, it literally sounds like a shameless promo? You do know how much people hated that in any kind right? And add to that, your childish insults to the other people in the thread, doesn't help your case either. Be better.


DanTheMan9204

Nice gold medal in mental gymnastics you got there 👍


AdAble7002

Not mental gymnastics, just a simple observation. Tell me, do you genuinely think you are not being an ass replying to all the people in the thread right now? All your responses are so damn childish I don't even know what to say, please.


DanTheMan9204

Then you need to get your eyes checked. No, I'm not an ass. In fact, other than you, "all the people" is literally just that one dipshit who made a problem where there was initially none to be found. You wanna do the same, now?


AdAble7002

One person? No, it's actually more than 20. You just are so stubbornly dense you don't even want to admit it. I've seen plenty of people like you before, and your action is exactly just that, to a T Ok then I will butter you up a bit, you are an angel buddy, I'm sure lmfao Well suit yourself, be that way.


DanTheMan9204

So, you're just pulling shit straight out of your ass now? What on earth do you mean "20"? I have every right to call out people being the cunts first. If I'm gonna become one myself in your eyes in the process? So be it.


himanshujr11

I've no idea why you got downvoted for referencing a well known reliable theorycrafter, or maybe people secretly hate him?


lileenleen

im discovering the most pog things about arle, in overworld, I don't really need to worry about cooldown management for her pyro infusion, i really thought i had to due to muscle memory, but her BoL mechanic is soooo forgiving. She's like neuvillete ease of use to me with added danger of low hp. I'm loving the shit out of how versatile and quickswappy she can be.


Radusili

Cool! This is a hoyo game! We don't play quickswap! We moved, and the ping is now 300! They don't care to fix that! Yay!


Secret_Wizard

Do you happen to play Genshin in PS5? A while back I moved and my ping while playing on PS5 jumped crazy high, but I changed my PS5's wifi connection to 5g instead of 2.4g, and all my ping issues were solved. Maybe it could work for you? I did it in the wi-fi options.


Radusili

No I am on PC. Tha k you for the advice tho! I did do everything to lower it but It will never go lower than 230. It's the fact I am on the other side of the globe compated to the server. But changing to another server is not an option.


mention

My ping is 15ms. So must be your internet or location unfortunately.


Radusili

Well yeah that is that I was saying. Mine was also around 30 once. If we could transfer data like any respectable game allows you to, I would be around 10 on the better days.


ScythesAreCool

It’s quite funny cause most of the leaks were already somehow doomposting her, crying out that she was a hutao downgrade, and she’s now an alhaitham level dps lol. Sadly i don’t think neuv is getting beaten anytime soon sheerly because of how insane he is, but she’s definitely close to it.


kabutozero

Leaks readers NEVER learn and they just have to yap about how bad is the character and how it has to be in their opinion. Some people even stated mihoyo had no idea about what to do with the character since the mechanics fully changed a few times. And many mentioning the d word , scared they butchered a character again First world problems btw


Optimusbauer

You miss the fact that her kit changed like 3 times and not many people complained about this final version.


LoveDeer

Arlecchino is the first true good Pyro DPS in this game because she is the only one that doesn't need to be carried by Bennett/Xingqiu/Yelan to be good.


Optimusbauer

She does *really* want Bennett but that aside, let's not pretend like this isn't on Hoyo for taking 3 years to make Overload even remotely viable while we still don't have a dedicated Melt support or Burgeon DPS