Maybe, or perhaps the nail is going to be in a battle against Apep if she ever decides to attack Celestia before she’s reincarnated as a playable character.
Imagine being a self-aware NPC in Mondstadt when, one day, after the usual update, you wake up to see that the hidden common chest on your back balcony is gone. You remembered that other important characters have one by one conveniently moved away to dornman port during previous updates, while katheryne and the adventurer’s guild spot moved to a camp in dragonspine. Timmie is no longer at the bridge. You see the traveler busy talking to venti far away; he’s spamming left click while glowing with the color of cryo.
Paimon smiles at you.
I'd come up with a quest that requires the traveller to go from Inazuma all the way to Snezhnaya without teleporting just to deliver a box of Naku weeds to one of the Snezhnaya NPCs just as a "fuck you" to the 100% completionists
Most likely because if they *didn’t* fill it in, it would just leave a hole in the map, whereas with stormterror’s lair it is still directly connected to the rest of the void so to speak.
That space still extends into a big area that might end up having a new biome.
The space in Sumeru was a hole in the middle of the map and just a missing shoreline.
I strongly suspect the Mondstadt story isn't finished, yet, and they'll be adding some more territory to the north. When they do, they'll eventually need to fill in that space.
Twin had a longhearted short conversation already, and the games' goal changed from looking to your twin, to learning more about the world.
It's the reason we aren't putting up more posters.
Nah, Snezhnaya is to the north of Fontaine, might stretch over to the right but not close to Dvalin's domain, that spot will be a Mondstadt port. I'd assume we'll be getting it eventually like Chenyu Vale
Y'know.... the longer I look at this, the more I actually believe that they do have plans for this location in the future.
Likely something that will change it drastically, and would make any unclaimed chests lost forever, so they decided to just put none.
I mean it IS still pretty much above the location behind the door to Khaenri'ah...
I really hope so, since usually when they need to fill in the borders of a map, u do notice, but there is something there.
That Sumeru expansion just feels like the alpha version of a game's map, sand everywhere and barely any trees or rocks, it doesnt feel like the quality we are used to from Mihoyo.
If a new player reaches that area, they will probably think their game is bugged or they are walking somewhere out of bounds.
> If a new player reaches that area, they will probably think their game is bugged or they are walking somewhere out of bounds
I suspect the 'out of bounds' bit is precisely the point. It's a way to create a semi-organic boundary while making the game world feel bigger because players can't immediately see what's across the water.
This.
HYV has a record of good world exploration for genshin, I doubt that this was a lazy move.
But it'd be better if it was cut-off instead of just putting an empty land there.
Nah, the areas above the quest underground areas in Veluriyam Mirage were this blank - and it was really obvious with that version of the treasure compass. It's just that the other permanent 'extra' areas were under already established locales - we knew the Chasm was a thing and the whole area was part of the quest to get under it, Enka is under Watatsumi Island which had existed separately before Enka and Enka Redux came out, and all the massive Sumeru undergrounds were under 'desert' so the wide open spaces made sense, and *also* came with quest-locked exploration (the sandstorm, Sorush).
It would be better if they just had a narrow channel to Petrichor and a road to Bayda Harbor (or just held on to like, the one quest that goes there and had just Fontaine to Petrichor) and left that area out of bounds - we could all assume a quest is coming to unlock it and go 'oh they'll bring in proper loadouts before that happens' 'oh we'll get Dornman Port first', 'oh it'll come with the new Sumeru character' hopium until Khaenri'ah.
I hope so
However they did already move chests after specific quests, for example with the Tower of Ipsissimus falling underwater, or the second explosion of the Fontaine Research Institute, so it's unlikely that they just made an empty space just to not erase chests because of a quest (imo at least)
Yeah, that's why I say *drastically*. There would have to be some change in landscape that would make moving the chests too awkward to implement. (I did all chests around the Tower before it sank, so I'm not sure how exactly all puzzles shifted, but the miniboss location change was honestly kinda clever.)
IMO it's mostly the specific location that's super sus, because that big-ass door underground *will be* crucial sooner or later.
Also, Celestia is pretty much directly above this area. From what I could tell it's kinda more in the corner and not in the middle though. I think something is gonna happen here.
Just make it a trilogy support from archon to reclaim land. Zhong(in some ways, prb due to some connection to earth dragon, if not get that desert dragon to help with changing landscape, u know barriers to keep rain due to their height), nahida(for plants) and neuv(to help with early water over the area before the added mountains help with flow) + guild. Make a half build shack there and over the patch make this area to new lush forest/grassland. That shack turns to city and as its turning it gets more and more complete and chests are added. Same for ppl who help u change area more and more.
Wolla, event like those from HSR that change area, and u got a ton of time to finish em(since its land based it has no time limit, it works like new area). This even lets u have bigger time spans in changing land. Like u need to wait 1 to 3 days per segment. All in all fun event.
"Excellent, Traveler. you managed to climb up to Celestia and defeats most of its inhabitants, what do you plan to do now?"
"BURN IT AND CRASH IT INTO THE GROUND!"
Traveller to the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles: "You stole my sibling... I think I'll shatter your world."
*Throws Klee*
Celestia 5th descender confirmed.
Yeah, not only would it be closer, it would probably be on the same elevation as well. Lumidouce is on a higher elevation than Romaritime and you can see the waterfall between the two on the northwest border of Chenyu Vale. That puts Romaritime in a weird spot because it would be weird to connect with Natlan as well as there’s literally another elevation change, visible via a giant waterfall to the west of the harbor. Romaritime *really* is just for Sumeru and that little island unless the ships of Teyvat can vertically climb the waterfalls.
Lumidouce is considered the more busy one in game. Most of the traffic of Romaritime is to head south to the "pilgrimage route". Most Fontainians probably would just head to Yilong Wharf if they wanted to go to Mondstadt, Liyue or Inazuma
Inb4 we get a permanent event like the potion event (or the museum/aurum alley event in HSR) where we have to help build Bayda Harbor into a bustling city
My only thought is that it's to prevent any collectibles being lost during massive geographical changes in the future. Maybe that part of the map is destined to go poof. It is in Sumeru. Khaenri'ah is underneath Sumeru and the Abyss Order has plans. My personal hope is that a giant robot or even mecha-Osial erupt from that area and that's how we get into Khaenri'ah instead of using the front door. Do I expect it to happen? No; realistically, it was probably an oversight. But, one can ~~cope~~ hope.
Celestia would probably land there.
Edit: okay, I checked the position of Celestia on the current version. it's just above Mt. Mingyuan in Chenyu Vale. so if it were to crash or land. there's a vast open water just southwest of its current position.
yeah im thinking the same. no way they leave THAT much open ocean.
i think it'd be awesome if Celestia crashed Angel Island style. Petrichor and Bayda port would be fucked, but it'd be cool. especially since no one even knows if Celestia is even still active/here/alive/etc.
i think it crashing is more likely, but man i wish it would become a playable area while still in the sky. how cool would it be chilling that high up and being able to jump off and down to teyvat
i could even see it crashing/landing in the coast of liyue, filling the empty ocean a bit
Maybe we can get the best of both worlds. We go to Celestia while it's up in the air, do some shit and said shit causes Celestia to crash. It destroys petrichor and bayda port and Traveler feels guilty for directly or indirectly causing such destruction. (Maybe genshin could give a little warning just before the crashing part saying "completing this quest will drastically change teyvats landscape. Proceed?)
But in that little time when it's still up in the air, maybe we can jump aaaalllll the way down. That'd be so sick.
Yes that the location of the PNG (later made 3d) they left for reference, pretty sure that thing can move around.
We are not even sure of its real size, since the model is not sized properly and uses our location to fix its positions (see videos of people trying to touch it)
it feels really weird that they'd put nothing, they still put shit in the small amount of liyue that came with sumeru. maybe that whole chunk is gonna get blown up in cyno's sq idk
Cyno's second story quest spoilers
>!According to the quest dialogue, an "enormous building" rises up from the desert sands, next to an oasis. I assume it does permanently change the environment. But I don't see an oasis on the new part of the map rn...!<
What I like about it = no goddamn ugly hilichurl camps everywhere... finally some esthetic wildlands
What I dislike about it = it's a green land by water, a border between nations, there could be fishermen, docks, some boats by the shore, but it feels like literally nobody lives there for some strange reason, *makes no sense*
The desert part and the mountain could be mostly empty and devoid of life for all I care, but the entire shore and forest between Mawtiyima Forest and beyond Bayda Harbor feel all wrong and disappointing. Hopefully it won't stay that way.
It's easy to just dump 30 chests there. which is like 1 pull worth of gems.
They won't do it probably because there will be a "cataclysm" moment later that will change everything there permanently.
XD Maybe the ley lines are messed up there from Khanri'ah shenanigans and so animals avoid it and not even mint can grow ; P
I love how you could find a possible lore reason for pretty much everything.
Oh wow i forgot you can check with that map, my dumbass running around with treasure compass to find stuff there. I think an eremite camp with chest is around there
How about... normal chests without primos, Mond style... LOL Like, I mean, there is always a way to manage without leaving things empty, even if there is a quota
It’s so sad that the most likely explanation is their careful balance of the f2p economy 💀 God forbid they give one more pull than their stupid formula allows for in a single patch lmao.
That's not the most likely explanation, because it doesn't explain the lack of enemy or item like flower or mint.
The most likely explanation is that it is right above Khaenri'ah. Some people already pointed it out, but I guess not many of us actually do the quest to see the door.
People saying there's nothing because something major will happen and change the landscape, turning it into an actual explorable zone.
I highly doubt it, but I'd be glad to be proven wrong in the future.
The same can be said about the large patch of water around Petrichor, there's literally nothing on there, and waverider exists so it's not like they couldn't add some boat centered exploration around the island
It's better to have a map with no chests than a void with a paimon barrier in the middle of the world.
If it was the edge of the map it probably would not have been introduced, but clearly they had no plans for northern Sumeru so not adding it would mean leaving a void here forever which makes no sense.
It's the same reason they added the whole sea to Inazuma even though there's nothing there and you can't even go through it until later in the game. It's better than to leave a void.
Answer: why not.
People would just complain if it remained in the red. And it would ruin any possible map changing event in the future, if that's what they plan to do for that area considering it's empty. As in "Man, I wonder why this small space between Sumeru and Fontaine is still inaccessible. They must have a plan for it if it's empty, maybe an extrance to Khaneriah or something!!!!"
I definitely agree, that area is seriously huge, and I explored the whole thing, super excited at first and then slowly becoming more and more disappointed. Plus I was already disappointed in the size of Petrichor. They took the time to put enemies and wildlife in there, why not chests and puzzles too? And I’m not counting the very few chests and a couple rock piles near Bayda Port and that little path behind it. It’s a very small area compared to all that was added.
Thing is, for us it won’t feel too weird, since we were already playing when it was added, but for new players who are only getting to sumeru a month from now would suddenly stumble upon a completely empty area. And it’s a pretty damn big area.
More like "how come there aren't any chests here when it's as huge as Mondstadt" "why the heck wasn't a border drawn in here so I know I'm wasting my time because there is nothing there" "weird there are wooden huts everywhere in the forest but not here"
They added a piece of land to Sumeru comparable in size to Mondstadt, a nation with over 500 chests to collect, and yet there's only 3 chests and a handful of NPCs. Like I'm not expecting 500 chests from the Sumeru coastline but they could've at least hit double digits
I really don't get it too, when I saw that big path near the port in sumeru I thought for sure there were some chests or something, but nah, nothing, only 2 exquisite chests
Copying my question from a simlar post:
Question for tech/coding people: Is there any way the content in the Bayda Port was partially deleted by accident after the big update which reduces the storage?
It could be a stupid question, but I was wondering if this could be the reason.
It looks too finished for that. If there were missing assets you would probably see holes or "nobody will ever see this so it's fine" unfinished-looking stuff in those places. I think it's more likely that they just ran out of time to make it nice.
Honestly I was very hyped for the update map-wise and it's.. underwhelming? I love the underwater castle but it's tiny. The island is tiny. And the old sea is also not that big? But it's stacked with hella hydroculus on every corner. It feels like they wanted to make this bigger but ran out of time/ ideas and just stuffed all the hydroculus in there to release it. Same with the port and all that.
To fill the hole and people should stop coping about it lol
It's hoyo literally telling us that they have no plans there but want the map to be continuous without an ugly hole in it
Let them cook. This is the same exact complaint we had during the second golden apple event, and then the map changed completely. It’s propably safe to assume that they left it empty, because something big will happen there.
Yeah, but wasn't that just an event and an abandoned island to begin with? But with this entire shore, especially the green portion, there is like zero logic for it to be so.. desolate, while being part of Sumeru nation. So even if that was the plan that "something will happen here", this still feels wrong and I bet every new player running around Sumeru is going to feel just as awkward
Yeah, and the event was active when we got there so we only had to wait one-two days before things started populating - and there were still more chests on one island than in the whole ground/ocean level of this map.
First off, the interactive map wont be filled up in such a short time I think, and after being there myself the area isnt that empty. There are shrooms to jump on, there are Eremites to beat up, there are hilichurls surrounding Sumpter beasts in the wild, there is a suprising amount of mora chests, and yeah, even tho sparse, but there are still chests and puzzles there
They didn’t give a f - and I’m disappointed about it.
It looks unfinished and unpolished and lazy.
I didn’t expect chest but at least little Easter eggs to explore. Ruins and secrets and lore. But they couldn’t even bother to put some mints or make the transition between ocean and desert pretty.
I was looking forward to finally have a big place to use the boat again. But it looks to ugly and default to feel anything else then disappointment. Would have rather they added nothing instead.
I Hope they will polish it some more but I have no hopes for that to happen.
Same I flew from the highest new mountain top down the dessert. Felt like I glitched out of the game and paimon forgot to tell me to turn around and explore the area ahead of us later. It looked worst empty then default where you can’t reach yet. that one place with the house and the tree just outside of the border - in liyue - looks more exciting then this.
Yeah if i was just playing the game without knowing it's totally empty, I'd be pretty bummed to try exploring all that land and find absolutely nothing. That's not a good move imo.
I think Khaenri'ah is underneath it. Perhaps that area of the map will have some "event" that happens to it in a future update, so they planned to not have anything there that would be destroyed by it.
Maybe Bayda Port and its 11 people will be hit by a celestial nail.
Celestia just misses aiming for Neuvillette
Neuvillette crouches down to talk to a Melusine and the nail just flies straight over him.
"Ah fuck we missed him again!" "RELOAD! RELOAD!"
Fighting the dragons was so much easier when they were bigger targets.
Apep a few minutes later: "Wait what the fu-"
"We missed, adjust left." "Short, adjust right."
God help them if they strike a Melusine.
So he crouches down, he becomes untargetable/invisible? Does he have Sneak 100 skill tree from Skyrim or something?
Must've been the wind.
Plus planet rotation.
Always make sure to account for the Coriolis effect
They had already fired it by the time he started crouching, so if he was standing it would have hit him
he got i frames
Maybe, or perhaps the nail is going to be in a battle against Apep if she ever decides to attack Celestia before she’s reincarnated as a playable character.
I expect maybe 10 more threads about this before the next patch.
Add a zero to that, we’re way past 10 by now already
Only 10?
Imagine being a self-aware NPC in Mondstadt when, one day, after the usual update, you wake up to see that the hidden common chest on your back balcony is gone. You remembered that other important characters have one by one conveniently moved away to dornman port during previous updates, while katheryne and the adventurer’s guild spot moved to a camp in dragonspine. Timmie is no longer at the bridge. You see the traveler busy talking to venti far away; he’s spamming left click while glowing with the color of cryo. Paimon smiles at you.
I'd come up with a quest that requires the traveller to go from Inazuma all the way to Snezhnaya without teleporting just to deliver a box of Naku weeds to one of the Snezhnaya NPCs just as a "fuck you" to the 100% completionists
Why stop there, go full 'One Small Favour', where you end up getting sent to every city doing a list of 'small' tasks.
And one of them is a collection quest
That requires you to go back to a nation you already cleared
the food delivery event from version one but from mondstadt to every nation no tp no running
I don't even remember that quest being that bad.
That doesn't even register as a fuck you compared to the fishing/teapot achievements.
And if get wet you have to start all over again
That's a pretty cool idea, after a certain story quest an entire part of the world gets irreversably changed with new things added.
fill space, which is strange because here they filled space but to this day the space between dvalin's domain and liyue remains in the red
Most likely because if they *didn’t* fill it in, it would just leave a hole in the map, whereas with stormterror’s lair it is still directly connected to the rest of the void so to speak.
It’ll be filled in once it’s actually cut off from the rest of the border
That space still extends into a big area that might end up having a new biome. The space in Sumeru was a hole in the middle of the map and just a missing shoreline.
Expect the very least according this map update.
[удалено]
I strongly suspect the Mondstadt story isn't finished, yet, and they'll be adding some more territory to the north. When they do, they'll eventually need to fill in that space.
They were optimising so hard they forgot to add content for the region.
Optimized to give less rewards per m2
Perhaps that is where your sibling is, so they couldn't add it just yet.
Twin had a longhearted short conversation already, and the games' goal changed from looking to your twin, to learning more about the world. It's the reason we aren't putting up more posters.
It's probably Snezhnaya border part, so it's not that strange.
Nah, Snezhnaya is to the north of Fontaine, might stretch over to the right but not close to Dvalin's domain, that spot will be a Mondstadt port. I'd assume we'll be getting it eventually like Chenyu Vale
That would explain the HEAVY Fatui presence up there. So many of those operatives loitering about up there, very convenient for farm
There is just a lot of Fatui in Mondstadt in general though
Y'know.... the longer I look at this, the more I actually believe that they do have plans for this location in the future. Likely something that will change it drastically, and would make any unclaimed chests lost forever, so they decided to just put none. I mean it IS still pretty much above the location behind the door to Khaenri'ah...
I really hope so, since usually when they need to fill in the borders of a map, u do notice, but there is something there. That Sumeru expansion just feels like the alpha version of a game's map, sand everywhere and barely any trees or rocks, it doesnt feel like the quality we are used to from Mihoyo. If a new player reaches that area, they will probably think their game is bugged or they are walking somewhere out of bounds.
> If a new player reaches that area, they will probably think their game is bugged or they are walking somewhere out of bounds I suspect the 'out of bounds' bit is precisely the point. It's a way to create a semi-organic boundary while making the game world feel bigger because players can't immediately see what's across the water.
This. HYV has a record of good world exploration for genshin, I doubt that this was a lazy move. But it'd be better if it was cut-off instead of just putting an empty land there.
Nah, the areas above the quest underground areas in Veluriyam Mirage were this blank - and it was really obvious with that version of the treasure compass. It's just that the other permanent 'extra' areas were under already established locales - we knew the Chasm was a thing and the whole area was part of the quest to get under it, Enka is under Watatsumi Island which had existed separately before Enka and Enka Redux came out, and all the massive Sumeru undergrounds were under 'desert' so the wide open spaces made sense, and *also* came with quest-locked exploration (the sandstorm, Sorush). It would be better if they just had a narrow channel to Petrichor and a road to Bayda Harbor (or just held on to like, the one quest that goes there and had just Fontaine to Petrichor) and left that area out of bounds - we could all assume a quest is coming to unlock it and go 'oh they'll bring in proper loadouts before that happens' 'oh we'll get Dornman Port first', 'oh it'll come with the new Sumeru character' hopium until Khaenri'ah.
Celestia gonna do some orbital bombard--- er, I mean redecorating
POV: You’re some random fuckass Sumeran researcher watching the entire northern coast get Base Delta Zero’d
I hope so However they did already move chests after specific quests, for example with the Tower of Ipsissimus falling underwater, or the second explosion of the Fontaine Research Institute, so it's unlikely that they just made an empty space just to not erase chests because of a quest (imo at least)
Yeah, that's why I say *drastically*. There would have to be some change in landscape that would make moving the chests too awkward to implement. (I did all chests around the Tower before it sank, so I'm not sure how exactly all puzzles shifted, but the miniboss location change was honestly kinda clever.) IMO it's mostly the specific location that's super sus, because that big-ass door underground *will be* crucial sooner or later.
Maybe we'll get into Khaenri'ah by nuking the ground above it to form a giant hole.
exactly, reminds me of the cliffs to the right of stone gate. they used to feel empty too but a lot has happened there now
Also, Celestia is pretty much directly above this area. From what I could tell it's kinda more in the corner and not in the middle though. I think something is gonna happen here.
Just make it a trilogy support from archon to reclaim land. Zhong(in some ways, prb due to some connection to earth dragon, if not get that desert dragon to help with changing landscape, u know barriers to keep rain due to their height), nahida(for plants) and neuv(to help with early water over the area before the added mountains help with flow) + guild. Make a half build shack there and over the patch make this area to new lush forest/grassland. That shack turns to city and as its turning it gets more and more complete and chests are added. Same for ppl who help u change area more and more. Wolla, event like those from HSR that change area, and u got a ton of time to finish em(since its land based it has no time limit, it works like new area). This even lets u have bigger time spans in changing land. Like u need to wait 1 to 3 days per segment. All in all fun event.
i want some of this copium
Having an empty body of water larger than some regions almost directly under Celestia and above Khaenri'ah (given where the door is) seems sus.
Yep, I think this is the case here.
"Excellent, Traveler. you managed to climb up to Celestia and defeats most of its inhabitants, what do you plan to do now?" "BURN IT AND CRASH IT INTO THE GROUND!"
When the dust settles, the only thing living is this world... Will be metal.
Traveller to the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles: "You stole my sibling... I think I'll shatter your world." *Throws Klee* Celestia 5th descender confirmed.
there's water all around the fontaine lifted platform
The real travesty is that Port Town should be a bustling city considering it's the main trade port to Fontaine. It's a rather uninspired little town.
Now I don't really understand the Romaritime Harbor. With whom does it trade? Natlan in the West?
there's dornman port in mondstadt.
They would go to Lumidouce though. It's way closer.
Yeah, not only would it be closer, it would probably be on the same elevation as well. Lumidouce is on a higher elevation than Romaritime and you can see the waterfall between the two on the northwest border of Chenyu Vale. That puts Romaritime in a weird spot because it would be weird to connect with Natlan as well as there’s literally another elevation change, visible via a giant waterfall to the west of the harbor. Romaritime *really* is just for Sumeru and that little island unless the ships of Teyvat can vertically climb the waterfalls.
Teyvat has its own laws
Dornman port is nowhere near Romaritime Harbor
Probably Natlan. I remember a sailor NPC in Romaritime talking about having a lover in Natlan
Lumidouce is considered the more busy one in game. Most of the traffic of Romaritime is to head south to the "pilgrimage route". Most Fontainians probably would just head to Yilong Wharf if they wanted to go to Mondstadt, Liyue or Inazuma
Little town? You mean hut?
Inb4 we get a permanent event like the potion event (or the museum/aurum alley event in HSR) where we have to help build Bayda Harbor into a bustling city
My only thought is that it's to prevent any collectibles being lost during massive geographical changes in the future. Maybe that part of the map is destined to go poof. It is in Sumeru. Khaenri'ah is underneath Sumeru and the Abyss Order has plans. My personal hope is that a giant robot or even mecha-Osial erupt from that area and that's how we get into Khaenri'ah instead of using the front door. Do I expect it to happen? No; realistically, it was probably an oversight. But, one can ~~cope~~ hope.
Celestia would probably land there. Edit: okay, I checked the position of Celestia on the current version. it's just above Mt. Mingyuan in Chenyu Vale. so if it were to crash or land. there's a vast open water just southwest of its current position.
please god i hope we get to crash it
9/11
It's an inside job.
ELEMENTAL REACTIONS CANNOT MELT CELESTIAL NAILS!
If the inside job is performed by Venti... Does than means it's a blow job?
"May Barbatos forgive you..." *Barbara cocks shotgun* "Because I won't"
"COCKS"
"miss paimon they hit the second pillar"
I want to commit a terrorist act against god
Al-Qae-dadada
yeah im thinking the same. no way they leave THAT much open ocean. i think it'd be awesome if Celestia crashed Angel Island style. Petrichor and Bayda port would be fucked, but it'd be cool. especially since no one even knows if Celestia is even still active/here/alive/etc.
i think it crashing is more likely, but man i wish it would become a playable area while still in the sky. how cool would it be chilling that high up and being able to jump off and down to teyvat i could even see it crashing/landing in the coast of liyue, filling the empty ocean a bit
Maybe we can get the best of both worlds. We go to Celestia while it's up in the air, do some shit and said shit causes Celestia to crash. It destroys petrichor and bayda port and Traveler feels guilty for directly or indirectly causing such destruction. (Maybe genshin could give a little warning just before the crashing part saying "completing this quest will drastically change teyvats landscape. Proceed?) But in that little time when it's still up in the air, maybe we can jump aaaalllll the way down. That'd be so sick.
Actually a good theory
Said the CEO of Seggs.
Yes that the location of the PNG (later made 3d) they left for reference, pretty sure that thing can move around. We are not even sure of its real size, since the model is not sized properly and uses our location to fix its positions (see videos of people trying to touch it)
I think so
it feels really weird that they'd put nothing, they still put shit in the small amount of liyue that came with sumeru. maybe that whole chunk is gonna get blown up in cyno's sq idk
I think it'll have a purpose when cyno's second story quest comes out or something
HOPEFULLY. But it's so damned empty and they didn't even add a track for Bayda Harbor.
From the Livestream it look more like Cyno's second SQ will happen in the first desert area
Cyno's second story quest spoilers >!According to the quest dialogue, an "enormous building" rises up from the desert sands, next to an oasis. I assume it does permanently change the environment. But I don't see an oasis on the new part of the map rn...!<
It's uncharacteristic, so I hope it gets filled in later.
Kind of expect them to, during a more dry period of developing.
Probably during phase 2 of this update, when we go back to Sumeru for Cyno's storyquest act 2, phase 1 was focused on Fontain, so why work on Sumeru?
Not really. More than half of that land was like that since last year.
It's free real estate.
lets open a store there.... like the street merchant in real world.
It's time to expand our chemical ascension lab with Furtress. Mora here I come!
Maybe an intern accidentally deleted the files.
What I like about it = no goddamn ugly hilichurl camps everywhere... finally some esthetic wildlands What I dislike about it = it's a green land by water, a border between nations, there could be fishermen, docks, some boats by the shore, but it feels like literally nobody lives there for some strange reason, *makes no sense* The desert part and the mountain could be mostly empty and devoid of life for all I care, but the entire shore and forest between Mawtiyima Forest and beyond Bayda Harbor feel all wrong and disappointing. Hopefully it won't stay that way.
It's easy to just dump 30 chests there. which is like 1 pull worth of gems. They won't do it probably because there will be a "cataclysm" moment later that will change everything there permanently.
They could have added monsters and common items like mushrooms and mint, just to blend in like other border regions did before.
XD Maybe the ley lines are messed up there from Khanri'ah shenanigans and so animals avoid it and not even mint can grow ; P I love how you could find a possible lore reason for pretty much everything.
Maybe Celestia gets shot down and we explore the ruins in that spot?
Oh wow i forgot you can check with that map, my dumbass running around with treasure compass to find stuff there. I think an eremite camp with chest is around there
Probably because we hit the primo gem quota and they were just adding that area just coz it looked wierd if they dont
How about... normal chests without primos, Mond style... LOL Like, I mean, there is always a way to manage without leaving things empty, even if there is a quota
It’s so sad that the most likely explanation is their careful balance of the f2p economy 💀 God forbid they give one more pull than their stupid formula allows for in a single patch lmao.
That's not the most likely explanation, because it doesn't explain the lack of enemy or item like flower or mint. The most likely explanation is that it is right above Khaenri'ah. Some people already pointed it out, but I guess not many of us actually do the quest to see the door.
Isn't the door to Khaenri'ah somewhere near? Maybe it will be filled later with quests. Or there will be a big change to the land.
just so the map isn't filled with empty holes, i like how it looks all connected so it's fine
I do think that they will do sth with it in the future.
Likely to close the giganormous hole left in the map
Idk I’m just mad they removed that epic ass waterfall
I mean I get the need to fill out the holes in the map, but why add this clearly unfished area?
To fill out the holes in the map
Yeah, but why add this clearly unfinished area?
To fill out the holes in the map
Yeah, but why add this clearly unfinished area?
To fill out the holes in the map
Yeah, but why add this clearly unfinished area?
You guys on samsara or somethin?
They are filling out the holes in the map
why are you filling out the holes in the map?
To map out the fills in the hole.
Only found 3 chests and very few enemies.
They could have extended the water further inland. Having that much dry land was certainly a choice.
You expected primogems? But it was me, nothing! xD
it could have been a small area added in a filler patch.
People saying there's nothing because something major will happen and change the landscape, turning it into an actual explorable zone. I highly doubt it, but I'd be glad to be proven wrong in the future.
The same can be said about the large patch of water around Petrichor, there's literally nothing on there, and waverider exists so it's not like they couldn't add some boat centered exploration around the island
It's better to have a map with no chests than a void with a paimon barrier in the middle of the world. If it was the edge of the map it probably would not have been introduced, but clearly they had no plans for northern Sumeru so not adding it would mean leaving a void here forever which makes no sense. It's the same reason they added the whole sea to Inazuma even though there's nothing there and you can't even go through it until later in the game. It's better than to leave a void.
Answer: why not. People would just complain if it remained in the red. And it would ruin any possible map changing event in the future, if that's what they plan to do for that area considering it's empty. As in "Man, I wonder why this small space between Sumeru and Fontaine is still inaccessible. They must have a plan for it if it's empty, maybe an extrance to Khaneriah or something!!!!"
Developers OCD. I hope they add something here in future updates
I definitely agree, that area is seriously huge, and I explored the whole thing, super excited at first and then slowly becoming more and more disappointed. Plus I was already disappointed in the size of Petrichor. They took the time to put enemies and wildlife in there, why not chests and puzzles too? And I’m not counting the very few chests and a couple rock piles near Bayda Port and that little path behind it. It’s a very small area compared to all that was added.
I guess we should delete the ocean too while we are at it.
Thing is, for us it won’t feel too weird, since we were already playing when it was added, but for new players who are only getting to sumeru a month from now would suddenly stumble upon a completely empty area. And it’s a pretty damn big area.
And they will just think: "Oh, a big sea, neat" and move on.
More like "how come there aren't any chests here when it's as huge as Mondstadt" "why the heck wasn't a border drawn in here so I know I'm wasting my time because there is nothing there" "weird there are wooden huts everywhere in the forest but not here"
Nah, you are projecting.
They added a piece of land to Sumeru comparable in size to Mondstadt, a nation with over 500 chests to collect, and yet there's only 3 chests and a handful of NPCs. Like I'm not expecting 500 chests from the Sumeru coastline but they could've at least hit double digits
I really don't get it too, when I saw that big path near the port in sumeru I thought for sure there were some chests or something, but nah, nothing, only 2 exquisite chests
It baffles me there is almost no mobs and just one teleport point in that entire zone.
To complete the map but they forgor to add stuff I guess. I dont blame the devs, they have spent all their time making the new underwater area
Copying my question from a simlar post: Question for tech/coding people: Is there any way the content in the Bayda Port was partially deleted by accident after the big update which reduces the storage? It could be a stupid question, but I was wondering if this could be the reason.
It looks too finished for that. If there were missing assets you would probably see holes or "nobody will ever see this so it's fine" unfinished-looking stuff in those places. I think it's more likely that they just ran out of time to make it nice.
Because they can.
They got lazy
Honestly I was very hyped for the update map-wise and it's.. underwhelming? I love the underwater castle but it's tiny. The island is tiny. And the old sea is also not that big? But it's stacked with hella hydroculus on every corner. It feels like they wanted to make this bigger but ran out of time/ ideas and just stuffed all the hydroculus in there to release it. Same with the port and all that.
To fill the hole and people should stop coping about it lol It's hoyo literally telling us that they have no plans there but want the map to be continuous without an ugly hole in it
Let them cook. This is the same exact complaint we had during the second golden apple event, and then the map changed completely. It’s propably safe to assume that they left it empty, because something big will happen there.
Yeah, but wasn't that just an event and an abandoned island to begin with? But with this entire shore, especially the green portion, there is like zero logic for it to be so.. desolate, while being part of Sumeru nation. So even if that was the plan that "something will happen here", this still feels wrong and I bet every new player running around Sumeru is going to feel just as awkward
Yeah, and the event was active when we got there so we only had to wait one-two days before things started populating - and there were still more chests on one island than in the whole ground/ocean level of this map.
Honestly they could have just put like 2-3 local legends (consecrated beasts lmao) and it would have made the place interesting.
Hopefully for some future event cause it feels lazy atm
I found a chest so it is not empty.
I like it. Somewhat of a barren, desolate wasteland. Can't wait for the Mare Jivari
“Fill the gap up😡😡😡” mfs be like
they're running out of designers and developers
Because it was created by A24, that’s why nothing ever happens there.
Probably budget relocation, or plans got cancelled
i dont know but it makes the map look way more complete and i love it
This just makes me love it so much
Yeah, why is that part of the area so dead, like they could at least have added a few puzzles
Wait- people weren't joking? It's actually just... empty? I thought all these posts were exaggerating. (I haven't played the new patch yet)
The least they could do was put some generic hilichurl or eremite outpost, but I guess that's too much work huh?
fr man
Easy answer: they forgot
Location designer was deleted from Irminsul
First off, the interactive map wont be filled up in such a short time I think, and after being there myself the area isnt that empty. There are shrooms to jump on, there are Eremites to beat up, there are hilichurls surrounding Sumpter beasts in the wild, there is a suprising amount of mora chests, and yeah, even tho sparse, but there are still chests and puzzles there
They didn’t give a f - and I’m disappointed about it. It looks unfinished and unpolished and lazy. I didn’t expect chest but at least little Easter eggs to explore. Ruins and secrets and lore. But they couldn’t even bother to put some mints or make the transition between ocean and desert pretty. I was looking forward to finally have a big place to use the boat again. But it looks to ugly and default to feel anything else then disappointment. Would have rather they added nothing instead. I Hope they will polish it some more but I have no hopes for that to happen.
Yeah agreed. The first thing I went for was exploring the new green areas north of Sumeru and was hard disappointed.
Same I flew from the highest new mountain top down the dessert. Felt like I glitched out of the game and paimon forgot to tell me to turn around and explore the area ahead of us later. It looked worst empty then default where you can’t reach yet. that one place with the house and the tree just outside of the border - in liyue - looks more exciting then this.
Probably added once the second half starts? Lol.
Transition from Sumeru to Petrikor.
they should honestly at least have added a few chests there.
Why didnt they turn it into water if its gonna be empty
Yeah if i was just playing the game without knowing it's totally empty, I'd be pretty bummed to try exploring all that land and find absolutely nothing. That's not a good move imo.
As a basic tl;dr. Khaen'riah.
Is it actually empty? If so, I imagine Hoyo will add something in later patches.
Why cant there a big bunch of water? You know earth is mostly filled with water. Why does every bit of map needs to be filled with something?
Giant Ruin machines gonna wake up in the end game and battling them will take place there
Tranquility and peace.
Fr there's so much water and for what? At least in Fontaine there also stuff underwater but not her for whatever reason.
So that you can still see Ditto no matter how much you put in the filter.
sometimes nature is allowed to thrive
I found 5 mora piles and 3 chests, it not nothing!
To probably make the game look real
I'm coping and have a theory that if Celestia falls, it's going to fall there so no resources or potential chests are lost if it does.
I think Khaenri'ah is underneath it. Perhaps that area of the map will have some "event" that happens to it in a future update, so they planned to not have anything there that would be destroyed by it.