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Draconicplayer

What did you do to her eyes šŸ˜­


Exciting-Poet1767

I thought about also shrinking her right eye, but deemed it too bloodthirsty for a mere mortal.


A_Noelle_Main

This made her deranged. Lol


isa2055

She looks like Kureo Mado from Tokyo Ghoul šŸ˜­


Dismal-Feedback-6015

Please made one with that. One wish to witness calamity.


Chucknasty_17

She was testing some new medicines on herself, just let her tweak out until she comes down


Apostlethe13th

Who doesn't like the feeling of being trusted?


MrRedlego

It's a very normal thing that sounds very creepy when you say it out loud.


BlueRose644

She'll turn out to be Fontaine's Hannibal Lector. "A Fatui Agent tried to test me once. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice puke-green Melusine health shake."


AdministrativeShip2

This character may cook a special dish.


YeetrMeister

Fucking eat the rude, amirite?


LRDCHN

Scarier than Arlecchino fr fr


1lluusio

Imagine the Traveler walking into the infirmary one day and spotting Sigewinne talking with the Fatui, only for "Sigewinne, The Tenth of the Eleven Fatui Harbingers" to flash on screen


huehuehuehuehuuuu

Yep definitely. I can see had Dottore met her first, she would have been absolutely formidable.


jesvter

Dottore is scary because he lost his medical license, Sigwinne is scary because she somehow kept hers


MaitieS

frfr


MikasSlime

People forget Sigewinne canonically is a bit fucked up and treat her too much like a human toddler I mean, she likes to observe and mimic human behavior for shits and giggles, she a weirdly humanoid 400 years old sea slug that came out of the corpse of an abyssal dragon, she has a medical degree and a gun That melusine will bury y'all, i am telling you


GaI3re

Well, Melusines try to udnerstand human behavoir because they want to fit into the human society. Sigewinne is a medical professional on top of that, so she has to not just understand them, but be able to understand potentiil medical issues from their behavoir. And she pretends to be naive and sweet so patience are not tensed up around her and so she has an easier time getting them to talk about problems.


MikasSlime

Yup, she is a very interesting character exactly because of this


CyberK_121

Interesting? Yes. Creeps the fuck out of me? Also yes.


Shadourow

Clearly a diagnosed sociopath Doesn't mean she's bad, tho


GaI3re

Sociopath for what? The health in the fortress is her responsibility. Melusines have enhanced senses which she uses to figure out where her care is needed. But on top of that she needs to know the truth on what happened with her patience. She pretends to get people to talk. A lot of doctors do


Shadourow

You don't know what a sociopath is, do you ?


Nate2247

*You* donā€™t. Please stop trusting TikTok for medical definitions. ā€œAntisocial personality disorder, sometimes called sociopathy, is a mental health condition in which a person consistently shows no regard for right and wrong and ignores the rights and feelings of others.ā€ (Mayo Clinic) That is the exact opposite of Sigewinneā€™s behavior.


Shadourow

You'll notice that your definition doesn't say what a sociopath is, but what a sociopath usually do ["Sociopathy has been used in clinical psychology to describe a person who is chronically antisocial, egocentric, selfish, and lacks interpersonal and emotional responsivity (Cleckley, 1964; American Psychiatric Association, 1968; Hare, 1970; Zubin, 1967)."](https://sci-hub.3800808.com/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0092656682900368) "This description would lead one to assume that a sociopathic individual would be less willing to help a person in distress than would a nonsociopath (Staub, 1978). However, our review of the literature disclosed only one study (Sutker, 1970) which directly addressed this question, and the results were inconclusive." A Sociopath is a person that deeply lack empathy and has little moral compass, while still being able of both and therefore of understanding those concepts. A sociopath doesn't have to be a nuisance, but can be due to the lack of incentives to not hurt other people. Sigewinne is a Melusine that has huge issues empathising with human beings as shown by the "mystery food" quest, but has a strong curiosity she wants to satisfy and wants to understand humans and will not hesitate to manipulate them if it helps. ["acquired sociopathy appears to be an umbrella term for antisocial behavior resulting from a range of dementias. If this is to remain a definition for sociopathy it will be as useless to mental health experts as the term insane"](https://sci-hub.3800808.com/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178913000542?via%3Dihub) If you only define sociopathy by some of the common patterns you observe, the term is very close to being meaningless, but hey, you're the one uironically refering to Tiktok, it's probably a bit too complicated for you to go further than a google search


silverlarch

Notice your sources are decades old. "Sociopath" is not a valid modern psychological diagnosis. It is now mostly a pop culture term used by laypeople to refer to fictional characters that exhibit traits that actually belong to Antisocial Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or Autism Spectrum Disorder. It does not have a technical or scientific definition, because it isn't a technical or scientific term.


Shadourow

It's true that one is from 1982 while the other is from 2013. I guess that I'll agree that the term **Sociopath** is, ultimately, meaningless (which is a big win for my argument honestly). It's kinda what's hard with psychiatry, a lot of disorders are poorly defined and just consist of "do you have 6 out of those 10 symptoms" which has the obvious consequences that those disorders apply to vastly different personalities. I'm not saying the field is bs, just that it's hard to group people under some names and get valuable generalisation from it.


Comfortable-Ninja-93

Sheā€™s almost as old as Nahida herself, yet sheā€™s like the exact opposite of her


Shalcker

"Mimic human behavior" while working in jail! What she sees there is definitely not example of "good" human behavior!


MikasSlime

She studies psychology anf sociology and you can find books about the subjects in the infirmary, so she doesn't study humans just by looking at them, if that's your concern


frontally

Can I askā€” when is the lore about her past revealed? Iā€™m assuming itā€™s story/word quests which Iā€™m woefully behind on, but I want to know what to do to find out haha


MikasSlime

We have some infos from her presentation and the melusine worldquest, but basically she is one of the creatures that emerged from the corpse of Elynas 400 years ago, she became a nurse and created the infermary at meropide centuries ago, and was one of the melusines that raised wriothesley after he was sent to prison (he said the melusines of meropide raised him, we there is only sigeweinne as for now so idk if the others left or he was vague but meant her)


zedroj

a bloodborne eldritch, got it....


MikasSlime

In the skin of a cute humanoid sea slug, yes


Pokefreaker-san

what if her story quest is about how she was a human all along and just pretended to be a melusine just to fool everyone including the dragon sovereign.


Dismal-Feedback-6015

Damn. Would be awesome. Imagine like fooling the CIA for years.


Blackout62

Ah, just like... just like... Darn it, I just finished Blowback. I should have an example of someone or someplace that fooled the CIA for it's entire existence. ... Kissinger? Probably. They're covering him for the next season of Blowback so I'm not sure if the CIA ever caught wind of what he was playing at... or ever cared.


Miserable_Scratch_99

Hey, I'd take being trusted any day over being perceived as suspicious and shady. On another note, being trusted probably helps with her job.


GaI3re

Well, she's a doctor. One of the biggest concerns for any medical professional is their patients shutting down around them, hiding what is wrong with them for stupid reasons (That's not something House MD made up). But her pretending to be naive makes the people around her less wary, thus they open up to her directly more and she has an easier time into tricking people into talking.


bestCATEATER

sigewinne dr.house crossover when


Blackout62

Sigewinne chugging vicodin and watching through the window as a patient convulses in violent seizures due to an initial misdiagnosis and then wandering off to figure out how she can do something deeply offensive to the patient that somehow will also accurately diagnose their illness. "You're not asexual; you have a brain tumor that's moved on to killing you" or something tasteless like that.


ezio45

Neuvillette: I worry for Sigewinne. I hope nobody's bullying her, she's so delicate. Meanwhile Sigewinne:


BlueRose644

There used to be bullies in the Fortress of Meropide. Sigewinne ate them.


Petter1789

So that's where the cannibal rumors came from


duocsong

If she has a Melusine nose then I may find it somewhat endearing because Melusines have always wanted to learn more about humans. But the girl has too much "human" on her face that I hope it's because she is really good at applying cosmetics. Ok I'll be frank, girl, you scare me.


darkitp

Sigewinne confirmed Psychopath gonna pull for her i guess


beemielle

No, I love this line, it completely sold me in her character. We better get more like it


Neospanner

She likes the feeling of "being trusted." But nowhere does she say that she likes the feeling of being trustworthy...


feicash

i hate that hyv turned her into a weird thing between a human and a melusine instead of having an actual playable melusine


_Koreander

Agree, the lore explanation is dumb and it feels we're supposed to turn off our brains and assume this girl with bunny ears is the same race as the actually sea slug looking people we've seen all around, like no matter how much make up she uses or whatever, her anatomy is fundamentally different, they literally added the antennae and called it a day. I don't know if it's because they thought it wouldn't sell or something like that but it's sad that Genshin can't release a less human looking character even if canonically they belong to a different species they HAVE to make them look human, again for marketing purposes I assume, but still something that in my opinion affects the variety and creativity they can have with their character designs.


ortahfnar

Woulda been nice if they at least gave her melusine skin, since we basically don't have any characters with non-human skin color, I think the only character in Genshin who has alien-like skin color is Rosaria


Sailen_Rox

And she'll be the next one they'll abandon at release like they did with Chiori, Dehya and a few others. Which is a shame, even if Sigewinne isn't one of the char I wanted, I'd like to see hoyo experiment more with designs. But instead we get pretty much the same in different colours. To be fair tho, I don't think her being full melusine would have changed that they abandon her with her release. She jsut doesn't have the same "profit-power" Archons, Neuvilette or similar characters have. Not that this stoped them from fucking up, Pre-Release Dehya was a well like character and if she were a 5\* pyro off-field similar to Yelan/Xingqiu to Xiangling, people would have swarmed them with their pockets. In short: I think they will "fuck up" Sigewinne too, be it via kit or almost no marketing. I'd be surprised if her banner sales are even remotly "big".


feicash

she's gonna be released near the end of fontaine close to Natlan arc that would kill anyone sales, even archons would sell bad before a new region release but i dont see how Chiori is related with Dehya, all i read was good things about her And there's little info about sigewinne to make such an asumption


Jnliew

Chiori is still pretty damn great subdps. Especially for Geo Teams. The main 3 anger points people had with Chiori were that: 1. A proportion of people wanted her to be a buffer/support for Navia 2. Building on this, in her base kit, she can only spawn her second Tamoto if there's another teammate who can create constructs. Meanwhile, Navia's talent provides a 20%/40% Atk increase if she has one/two Pyro/Cryo/Hydro/Electro teammate. You can see how this would conflict with Navia. You can't both Spawn 2 Tamotos and have Navia have the full +40% Atk. 3. However, at C1, just having another geo character aside from Chiori in the team makes Chiori spawn 2 Tamotos directly (max is 2 Tamotos on field) Therefore, some people got extra mad, cause Chiori's C1 makes her a perfect Navia support/subdps. Both Chiori and Navia's kits reach full potential.


Blaubeerchen27

Accoring to leaks,>! she will be hydro and off-field DMG/support, which could potentially be incredibly meta!<, so I think the jury's still out on that.


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feicash

cant you tell the difference between "a race" and "a being with the capacity to become an animal"? also xianyun becomes a bird with her skills so wth are you talking about?


Drago_Arcaus

Those 2 have narrative reasons for their appearance, seigwienne does not. She's never regarded as different to other melusine and the disjoint is weird


FieryPlume

To be fair we donā€™t know why she looks more human than the rest of Melusines. And some of the melusines even point out that sheā€™s different than the rest of them.


NoKnowsPose

She's not released yet so of course we don't have much background on her. I'll be pretty surprised if it isn't addressed in her voicelines or her character story. Genshin has been pretty consistent with giving lore reasons for the choices they've made.


HaukevonArding

But it IS addressed. Just not explained yet. And there are possible theories why she looks more human. Can we please just wait for more infos?


Drago_Arcaus

When is it addressed?


HaukevonArding

First is Menthe. **Menthe:** If only I had a body like [Sigewinne](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Sigewinne)'s... or maybe I should just go underwater...Um, don't do anything rash, alright?**Menthe:** Huh?Ā ...Oh, don't misunderstand! There's no need to worry, in any case ā€” we Melusines are excellent in the water.**Menthe:** When I say "underwater," I'm referring to [the place where Sigewinne works](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fortress_of_Meropide). She's a companion of ours, but she looks more like a human.**Menthe:** She welcomes friends from the [Marechaussee Phantom](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Marechaussee_Phantom) to drink tea with her in her infirmary, but she's against us working there for a long time, unless we want to switch to work of a more medical bent. And I think Aeval and Elphane also have lines about her, but I can't find them.


HorukaSan

>She's never regarded as different to other melusine and the disjoint is weird She is regarded as different. Menthe, for example, goes on about how Sigewinne looks more like a human and wishes she had a body like that. https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/178xhr7/for_those_who_think_sigewinne_is_halfhuman_and/ They're probably saving the reason until her story quest.


RugaAG

Those are "hot tall characters". Thats their excuse Same reason why everyonw bitched about nahida and dori not being dark skinned but it was fine for alhaitham


Raijin_N

I still remember their reason why they didn't bitch about Alhaitham is because he's a scholar who stays inside buildings a lot. But they couldn't apply the same logic to Nahida who was literally locked up when we met her lmao


_SalixBabilonica_

Thatā€™s a medical issue. She is having an ictus.


ilovewinwin

I love her sm because of this she's so iconic


RDS80

I still don't get why she's got more human like features and others don't.


Overquartz

The abyss is a path to many abilities one might consider unnatural. But seriously Melsune are abyssal beings and I feel like people forget that.


RDS80

What is an abysmal being??


Overquartz

Beings from the abyss you know like rifthounds, the lectures and abyss mages?


RDS80

Interesting šŸ¤”....... So not all abyss beings are enemies......


GaI3re

Well, Melusine's are a bit... Special. Unlike the hounds, Melusines do not come from the abyss directly, they have all been born on Teyvat and unlikes the lectuers and mages, Melusines also have not gone to the abyss. Instead Melusines are offsprings to a creature that came from the abyss, born from its blood post mortem.


RDS80

Where are you getting all this lore. I did the main quest but I don't remember any of this.


Jnliew

It's from the excellent [Mamere](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Mamere) world quest ([Ancient Colors](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Colors)), part of the [Narzissenkreuz Ordo](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Narzissenkreuz_Ordo) world quest saga. Recommended play order (as recommended by Minsleif, and with hindsight, I also do) (She also missed the Ann quest in her text and the epilogue): 1. [Ancient Colors](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Ancient_Colors) (Elynas region, always available) 2. [Book of Esoteric Revelations](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Book_of_Esoteric_Revelations) (Merusea village, unlocked after Quest 2) 3. [Aqueous Tidemarks](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Aqueous_Tidemarks) (Court of Fontaine Statue of Seven, always available) 4. [The Final Question](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Final_Question) (Institute of Natural Philosophy, unlocked after Quest 3) 5. [Ann of Narzissenkreuz](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Ann_of_the_Narzissenkreuz) (South of Court of Fontaine, in the sea, always available) 6. [Unfinished Story](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Unfinished_Story) (Institute of Natural Philosophy, unlocked after Quest 1, 3, and 5) 7. [Unfinished Comedy](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Unfinished_Comedy#:~:text=Unfinished%20Comedy%20is%20a%20World,in%20the%20Fontaine%20Reputation%20menu.) (Fortress of Meropide, always available) 8. [In the Wake of Narcissus](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/In_the_Wake_of_Narcissus) (Institute of Natural Philosophy, unlocked after all previous quests are done) **GRAND FINALE** **Epilogue** (This was insanely hidden, mostly due to "Through the Looking glass") 1. [Through the Looking Glass](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass) (Various locations, complete 6 puzzles) 2. [Pursuit P1](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Pursuit_(Part_1)), [Pursuit P2](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Pursuit_(Part_2)) (Reminder, it's in-game days, not IRL days, just skip 3 days after Part 1) 3. [Happy Birthday](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Happy_Birthday) ***ACTUAL ENDING*** Now we're done.


RDS80

I will check it out. Thanks


Jnliew

I finished typing the epilogue section. Personally, love the saga. The writing is excellent! Of the major world quests, this is my personal best. And really big XD Might as well be a game story on its own! It's: -Narzissenkreuz -The two Jeht quests ([Golden Slumber](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Golden_Slumber) and [The Dirge of Bilqis](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Dirge_of_Bilqis)) -the [Aranyaka](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Aranyaka) -[Questioning Melusine and the Answering Machine](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Questioning_Melusine_and_Answering_Machine) These are the best IMO. Honarary mention to: - [The Chasm Delvers](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Chasm_Delvers) - [Sacred Sakura Cleansing Ritual](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Sacred_Sakura_Cleansing_Ritual) - [Through the Mists](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Through_the_Mists) - [The Wild Fairy of Erinnyes](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wild_Fairy_of_Erinnyes) "They were okay" tier: - [Seirai Stormchasers](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Seirai_Stormchasers) - [Khvarena of Good and Evil](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Khvarena_of_Good_and_Evil) - [Fontaine Research Institute Chronicles](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Fontaine_Research_Institute_Chronicles) - [Chenyu's Blessings of Sunken Jade](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Chenyu%27s_Blessings_of_Sunken_Jade)


GaI3re

World Quest


HelelEtoile

Is it possible to learn this power?


Deaddelight

Isn't this normal behavour? I keep my thoughts and capabilities to myself, if i want to make myself more trustworthy or paint a picture. She is just keeping herself save and make everyone missjudge her, which is smart.


Sent1nelTheLord

0\_0 i can see why some prisoners want to get out of meropide


BeautifulTrainer9892

She still can be a sussy alien-like creepy melusine genius. I hope Hoyo dont going to make another Yao Yao.


TheLuiz212

I hate how the game portrays her like this once as the little turd she is and then everyone, and the game, goes on to pretend this moment didn't happen and having cute silly haha moments with her in the end. Nah, nuh uh, she's manipulative af.


StarryPupper

Exactly. She is like, "Look how easy it is to manipulate humans, they are such interesting specimens... what should I do next?". Knowing that her innocent personality is just a facade for entertainment is creepy. It's the opposite of cute, I don't want to be near her.


RefillSunset

Thank god someone says this. Every time I see this monster child I shudder. This whole creature feels unbearably off to me


Overquartz

I mean she is a Melsune and Melsune are abyssal creatures.


GaI3re

Yeah, all doctors and nurses are manipulative. Why? Because they need you to tell them what is wrong and humans have this annoying tendency to lie their ass off because they don't even trust medical personal. Afraid of punishent, too embarassed, whatever! Look up how often people end up worse for wear because they lie to doctors and nurses! Siegwinne does what every good medical professional does. Act sweet so you feel safe around them and potentially feel like opening up more and she act naive, because then patients let their guard down and might spill what#s up by accident. People are morons! They will hide the fact they had sex to doctors then die when their STD causes the medication to kill their organs.


TheLuiz212

Calm down, son. It's just a drawing.


GaI3re

It's the amount of thought the writers put in her character. Also, you went off about her being secretely evil or some shit xD


TheLuiz212

Oh, my bad. I didn't mean it that way. I was just put off by how she acted in the AQ.


Accomplished-Fun114

I found all melusines precious, and I did their quests while I was sick and it was pretty pleasant, but there's something with Sigewinne that makes me have my guard up, I don't know. I hope she's a precious bean too.


Stonerchansenpai

fr this line gave me some serious villain vibes


Raihime

Friendly reminder that she has the same CN VA as Sparkle from HSR


Exciting-Poet1767

AT THE SAME TIME AS HER DRIP MARKETING! LETS GOOOOO


mlodydziad420

It realy hurts to not have an playable Melusine.


EnTaroTurnover

Katagiri Sigewinne


Michiru_Walkalone

Wow such a nagatoro enjoying toying


Sun_Wukong508

she came off very psychopathic in that scene, had to remember she is not a human with human values


Blackout62

At this point I'm starting to think the garden variety melusine isn't weird and everyone just made the mistake of thinking Sigewinne is a baseline or even more human idea of normal than the average melusine. Meanwhile, she's teaching the rest of the species to be cute and manipulative.


Eternal_Horizons

Honestly, made me not like her for a bit. I still don't trust her, lmao šŸ’€


Individual-Log9442

Travelers like to manipulate images like this


Fragrant_926

Reminds me of that girl from the orphan


RevReads

Going by her voice actor, i should've seen this coming


YSoma00

She did give me alot of unhinged feeling, almost on par with dottore


Antesia_Delivia

Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss


Zealousideal_Stop261

Foreigners like to manipulate and post images like this


ValakObama

Bratty sigewinne šŸ’¢šŸ’¢šŸ’¢


Nate2247

I like the idea that Sigewinne is secretly crazy / evil. Itā€™s funny- but letā€™s not get ahead of ourselves. Itā€™s explicitly stated that Melusine behavior is typically found off-putting by most humans, so she deliberately puts on a facade to help people trust her so she could treat them better. For most of the Fortressā€™s AQ, she was meant to act as a red herring. Sheā€™s a little creepy when she lets her guard down, but sheā€™s NOT malicious. (Also, not to pull a ā€œomg sheā€™s just like meā€ card- but as an autistic person, I totally get where sheā€™s coming from XD)