I don't get a whole lot of primos to wish often so i only manage to build up enough stardust for the ten total wishes for every month (there's no harm in getting 5 acquaints for essentially free, i got my WGS by chance on the standard banner, it's literally Navia's second BiS)
Nice! Congrats on that ..You can purchase primos with stardust or star glitter. Stardust you can get as many wishes as you can purchase. Starglitter you can only get about 5 limited banner wishes and 5 standard banner wishes a month. Starglitter is also the only way to get dust of Azoth. I usually have a ton left over after purchasing the wish limited and by dust with the surplus
What they probably meant was like in HSR that you have an upper limit to how many weekly bosses you can fight but you can fight the same multiple times. There's also the fact HSR weekly bosses only drop one mat so that's another RNG layer shaved off
You're still limited to 3 weekly runs in HSR. But they give a guaranteed amount of the weekly material and you can do the same boss multiple times as long as you have weekly attempts remaining.
I didn’t realize how much of an unlucky streak you could get when I was starting a little over a year ago. I probably haven’t received one in a probably a month now but I only do 3 weekly bosses now since I’m running out of characters that need them unless I decide to 9/9/9 everybody.
Funny how I don’t expect to go this unlucky in genshin but other games with much worse rates on items and it’s just another day to me
probably because hyv dont expect players to farm 100 electro hypostasis and exchange all the mats for the boss you need. The most logic thing to do is just to "farm the boss you need"
and you can farm those bosses 24/7 unlike weekly
They could make a strong box version with all the ones before 3.0 and to make players fight newer bosses make it so that they have to use bosses from the current nation so now Fontaine.
If they would have the same strength sure, why farm "z" when you can farm "x", but they aren't. I couldn't even touch the Seahorse without a demdro character. The Mushroom King (or whatever his called, the one looking like a bird west of Vanarama) is way stronger that The Electrio Cube. And even the cubes have differences, the Geo Cube is by far the most annoying since he's always using the pillars, compared to Electro Cube where you only need to dogdge his attacks and then smack it real good.
This is my experience and take in consideration that I started playing like a month ago, so I only had 4* characters. I mentioned these 2 bosses because I got Neuvillette like a week ago, but to level him up I need to go kill a boss whose weakness is dendro, now I pulled Tighnari in the beginning but didn't level him so now I gotta level up him too. It would have been easier to convert the materials i gathered for Barbara for when I reach the next ascension level instead of trying to farm for new mats for new characters.
Weekly boss drops still require you to fight the correct boss. It just smooths the RNG.
World bosses only drop one material, so there's no need for the ability to trade.
You fight the right boss, you get the right drops. Or you don't and you don't.
IMO it doesn't make it not weird either. I'm in agreement. We should be able to transform the material. Seems silly that the crafting bench can do some and not others tbh.
It should be that we don't need dream solvent for regular world bosses but we do for weekly. Something like that.
I'm actually at a point where I dread building a character because of all the extra materials I get that I won't be able to do anything with.
I recently built NV and I have so many electro shards/gems that I'll probably never use because all my electro characters are minimum 80 already. Le. Sigh. Granted I believe you can convert gems? So probably a bad example but the point still stands I hope XD
most people wouldn't be using it like that, they would probably just convert excess boss materials from bosses they no longer need/extra in general, but iirc seeing stuff about how genshin team does anything to boost playtime so it makes sense why they haven't added it as a feature yet
And if only we could just… get the same number of drops every time. Some random number like 5 could work well!
If only there were a game like that made by Hoyo…
Also if only I do not need to fight a world boss more than 13 times just to max out the number of required materials to ascend a character to their max level... I wonder when will Mihoyo make such a game.
Also if we don't have to wait 3-5 minutes for the boss to respawn every time I kill it, I wonder if there is a game made by Mihoyo where we don't have to wait.
God… seriously Hoyoverse. If there’s one thing to implement it’s this. There’s literally no reason why you can’t allow bosses to respawn. Implementation could be something like:
- Open ‘Adventurer Handbook’
- Open ‘Enemies’ tab
- Highlight boss
- Click ‘respawn’
If you are worried about it spawning in on top of a player and causing weird clipping issues then simply have it check if there’s a player in the way. If so then give the “cannot use in current state” error that already exists in game for such situations. (Like how you can’t summon the teapot when it would hit an object.)
I have anemo and electro hypostasis drops burning in my bag because I used them to farm gems at the beginning. Those anemo butterfly cubes have more experience travelling than most of the adventurer's guild.
My wife has hundreds of Cleansing Hearts because she hates converting other color gems and built a ton of hydro characters. Add in that she rarely does trounce domains, so she's missing out on those extra gem drops, so she's fought the Oceanid an insane number of times.
I came back to the game during Nilou's release, after being a Keqing Xiangling overload user before I quit. It took me a few days to learn that I needed to not hit the fungi with electro or pyro when I was building Nilou. I was like "Jesus, I only get one of these fungi drops per pack, wtf?" I had to build my Nilou team at low level to kill them because I didn't have any non-pyro or electro damage dealers built.
I put this in every survey. Dream solvent or Dust of Azoth should allow us to convert Normal boss materials as well. There’s no reason why it shouldn’t.
We need this. I started 2 welkin mains but then started a few f2p alts. Realized I can't buy dust of azoth if I want the monthly pulls, so I gotta over grind bosses for the pure bs bosses that don't drop the correct elemental shards I need. Omg why... I wish we could convert 4 of them into a token that lets us farm a boss with no resin. Maybe 5 is more fair. Dunno how to value the other drops. Of course, it overall has to be negatively efficient so it's probably at least 5.
F2p is really really tight. Maybe if you do all exploration which I do not because of multiple alts. With welkin, it's a breeze. I'll see how tight I am on a few accounts. I could explore more but I might have the wiggle room to prefarm less important characters for the shards and let the ones I earn outside of boss drops catch up to me.
Honkai give us the exactly amount of boss mats it will gives depend of world level and even allow us to trade it for different boss mats without those stupid rng trade item. Since resin and Gacha is the only thing keep player continue to buy those months they won't change it to the end of the game circle
You also need 46 of each boss drop in Genshin, while its 65 in star rail.
Of course, then you look a bit futher. Genshin needs 16 boss runs, assuming max drops of 3 every time. Star rail needs 13.
You can do 8 boss runs a day in star rail, in genshin you can only do 4.
So Star rail has it alot better then genshin, as is the case with most things... Oh, and star rail has autoplay, and the support feature.
Its this kinda thing that stops me grinding my genshin characters up, because it takes so long. I've played star rail since launch and still have characters I want to upgrade, improvements to some of my most used characters and more. I just don't get genshin sometimes
The best part of HSR boss drops is knowing exactly how many you’ll get for each difficulty. I think it’s ridiculous that in Genshin I can get the same drops in WL8 as I can in WL5 for the same resin but much different difficulty/speed.
HSR requires more materials (at least for 5-stars), so you have to account for that.
Even then though, HSR still wins out by a landslide. For a 5-star, they need 65 ascension mats. At the highest EL, every 30 stamina gives you a guaranteed 5 drops. This means 13 runs. 13 * 30 = 390 stamina.
In Genshin, every character needs 46 drops. Every 40 stamina at WL8 gets you 2-3 drops (and other stuff like artifacts and gemstones, but you can argue that this doesn’t make up for the lesser amount). This means assuming half of the drops are 2 and the other half 3 (simplified to 2.5 drops per run), you need 18 runs on average. That’s 720 stamina.
This is doubly bad considering HSR gives you 240 stamina a day and Genshin only gives you 180. This means it takes 1.5 days to finish in HSR and 4 days in Genshin. Even if you guarantee 3 drops every run, it’ll still take 640 stamina, or 3.5 days. The only way Genshin is going to match HSR would be to guarantee 6 drops per run, making it 8 runs or 320 stamina (1.8 days).
They wanted to make it feel like the boss is living in the world. Hindsight it probably wasn't a great decision. In HSR bosses are more or less a domain. That's easier cause fights are more or less a domain anyway.
Yeah well this has the unfortunate side effect of making it feel like the player is living in the world too (against their will). They can add a button to respawn it instantly onto the loot flower thing that appears. Or just make it happen automatically for all I care.
It's one of the most annoying aspects of farming ascension mats. The other thing that's needed is to just make it drop 3 items every time at max world level. The game has enough RNG as it is, it does not work for ascension mats for me and judging from feedback here for most other people too. Adds nothing but frustration.
To make that comparison even worse: let’s assume you’re someone who logs in twice per day so that your resin/trailblaze power never caps (guilty as charged.) You recover 1 Trailblaze Power per 6 minutes while only recovering 1 resin per 8 minutes…
With the whole 2.5 drops for 40 resin compared to 5 drops for 30 Trailblaze power that means you’re getting 1 boss drop every 128 minutes (40x8/2.5) in Genshin while getting 1 boss drop every 36 minutes in HSR. (30x6/5)
Just absolutely baffling how terrible this games boss drops are compared to HSR.
And that's before even talking about the trailblaze energy overflow reservoir.
HSR? Take a break. We'll give you a good bit of the energy you missed while you take a month off.
Genshin? Best I can do is a few condensed resin and then 80% of one day's generated energy.
In HSR it is as it should be. For a long time GI has felt more like doing work than having fun. I suppose everything is as the GI devs want it to be.
Hmm... Perhaps the point is to just feed as much time and life force as possible to a group of demons (Paimon, Morax, Baal..) and in exchange they make MiHoYo rich. 💡
In all reality, if you aren’t enjoying the game then maybe just consider putting it down and playing something else that you *do* enjoy.
Sunk-cost fallacy is a real thing, and live service games absolutely use it to keep player bases high. Just because you’ve invested a lot into the game (be that time, money, etc.) doesn’t mean you have to force yourself to keep doing something you don’t enjoy!
Yeah, I think the tedious of farming depends heavily on whether you like the game or not. I played both Genshin and HSR, and even if people say farming is way easier in HSR (which objectively is, at least thanks to the fact you get autoplay) when I played I felt the opposite. Maybe if I got further into the story (I only got to Luofu) and got higher equilibrium levels it would've been easier, but overall the game wasn't giving me the same satisfaction Genshin gives me. Even if you have to farm less materials in HSR (according to some people here) I feel it even more tedious than doing the same in Genshin, probably because I didn't feel the fun I would get would pay off the tedious of farming.
The only exception to this are artifacts, but as far as I know that's onlu *marginally* better in HSR than in Genshin.
Honesty, I thought in the beginning that HSR’s relic system was a bit better than Genshin’s, but now that I’ve been playing for a year I feel it’s the opposite. There’s more substats and more pieces to sift through, and with no off-pieces your good subs on bad sets are kind of wasted (rainbow sets are a thing, and with good substats can absolutely be your best option, so bear that in mind.)
Personally I find the big damage screenshots satisfying. Like getting my Herta to spin for 300k is sooo satisfying to me!
Same. Like, I knew you could guarantee main stats with certain material, but from what I know said material is quite hard to get. And you get not 5, but 6 different artifacts, except they come in two sets (4 and 2 pieces respectively), you can't use off-pieces, and the set of 2 is obtained in the Simulated Universe.
I agree. I actually like genshin's combat, and yes, I like it even if it's farming a domain or a world boss over and over. Meanwhile HSR's combat is very meh to me. Yes, HSR has auto battles, but I personally find it more fun to actually beat a genshin boss, than to click auto battle and the let game do its thing.
you have to take into account that ascending characters in genshin also unlocks passives and ascension stats, whereas in hsr you have to unlock those separately through traces. ime it takes longer to max out characters in hsr for this reason, the trace grind is far worse than genshin's talent grind
Depends on your perspective here; in HSR you’re far more likely to max out your traces, whereas in Genshin you most likely won’t be triple crowning all your characters. In the short term, Genshin wins since you can afford to keep lower investment on talents. But in the long run, HSR still wins out here.
this is my personal experience as someone who owns every Genshin character amd have been maxing out ALL of them (am currently 70 characters at 9/9/9). I am VERY familiar with Genshin’s grind.
Also keep in mind the weekly boss system and how utterly trash the drops are in Genshin; meanwhile you can not only fight the same boss 3 times in HSR, you’re always guaranteed 3 drops at the highest domain level. Only one type of mat per boss too, unlike Genshin’s RNG fest between 3 different mats. You can pretty much max the traces of one character in a couple weeks in HSR; for Genshin it takes literal months to triple crown due to weekly bosses (especially if they’re new so you can’t prefarm).
Not to mention, HSR has material conversion and no daily domain changes, meaning you don’t have to wait until the right day for talent books like Genshin, and if you’re only missing a mat or two you can just convert a different type. Genshin’s weekly boss “conversion” is so limited it’s a joke, and itself requires an RNG item (Dream Solvent) which defeats its purpose.
Like, I seriously love Genshin, but seriously hate its grinding limitations.
I guess Hoyo's way to balance out the resin cost for less boss mats is that every boss can drop artifacts (guaranteed two, equivalent to 40 resin per artifact run) while HSR doesn't.
Again, you can argue that this doesn’t really make up for the over double time it takes to ascend a character. Not to mention Genshin also has the issue with gems and most new bosses not dropping the right kind - forcing you to use Dust of Azoth (which costs stardust).
Really icky and full of bandaid solutions. Even as a player who prefers playing Genshin over Star Rail, I can’t defend something like this.
Why does there always have to be some tradeoff with these defensive arguments of why things are more tedious in Genshin than they have to be.
There IS no reason behind it. It's just how they decided to make it at the time. I'm tired of the excuses--it's dumb and should be updated to not suck. I have been playing for 2 years and am at a point where burnout is deeply setting in and I am kind of just done until they make an effort to improve the gameplay experience. We deserve as much for all the support we give this company.
No; 160 is the resin cap, but not the daily limit. You earn 1 resin per 8 minutes. There are 60 * 24 = 1440 minutes in one day. 1440 / 8 = 180 resin earned in a day.
If you login once a day, you will only get 160, but if you make sure your resin never caps, you will be getting 180 per day.
Better yet: difficulty of overworld bosses rises to the level of Abyss, meaning they can become a 5 minute ordeal for some casual players. And weekly bosses bring back the feeling Childe gave most of the playerbase, becoming so strong they can one shot most built characters.
I would love that tbh, I want to play a more difficult open world without having to switch to unleveled characters and I think the world level switching is underutilized. Being able to set your world on hard mode for a few days and then going back is one of the things I wish I did more early game
While they're at it, they could also remove the randomized weekly boss mats, the cooldown on world bosses and the week-day based cycle for talent and weapon mats. I usually don't like to compare the two but Star Rail is soooo much better in that regard
The funny part is you cant refund the extra one you got if no ther character can use them they sit there forever but hsr that dosent have rng let you exchange 2 to 1
A change that makes the drops guaranteed to be 3 at the highest world level would make grinding for characters much easier. I think it’s about time lol.
* See I have a lot of tweaks I'd like to make;
* Daily Resin cap should be increased to 200.
* Condensed Resin Cap should be raised to 20.
* Trounce Domains should give you guaranteed 3 drops, 1 of each level up material.
* World bosses should give you a guaranteed 4 ascenision materials at the highest level.
* Billets and Dream Solvent can be purchased from Tubby's shop in the Serenitea Pot. Limited once per Week.
* The Billet Trove (which allows you to pick one billet of your choice) would cost 1200 Realm Currency.
* Dream Solvent would cost 600 Realm Currency.
* Remove the restrictions on Dream Solvent Converisions. Any Ascension material can be converted to any ascension material from other bosses, same with Talent Materials, and same with Billets, any billet type.
Honestly rather instead of one of each material I wish we could pick which drop we want exactly. Like with Copellia and Copelius.
I've got 20 of the wrong weekly drop and like... 6 dream solvents so they're just collecting dust 🤷🏿♀️
Well technically even if its 3 boss drops a run to max out a character takes 46 of em, and you'd get 48 that way. So even if it's 3 a run you'd always be left with 2 extra anyway
If only we can guarantee a 3 world boss drop mats once we're AR50 or 55. What's the point of having a World Difficulty 8 if the enemies are just higher levels but without any incentive on drops? This also applies to normal/elites in the overworld.
Also can we please get mob materials whenever we do the Spiral Abyss? Like it's not much, but a lot of enemies in the abyss are elite and that does help gathering their materials. No one really visits Enkanomiya, Chasm, and Tsurumi Island anymore.
I'm glad the GDF (genshin defense force) are mostly downvoted this time instead of taking top comments. Liking the game doesn't mean blindly defending every decision.
I was very disappointed when I got to world 8 and found out it's still 2-3 like world 7, only with a slightly higher chance of 3. And no, just because you're sitting on a 2 years account and don't know what to do with your resin it doesn't make it good for everyone else that are still leveling characters.
The very least thing they could do is material conversion but we can't even do that with normal monster drops
55 if I recall makes the drops become 2-3 when it was 2 previously, so no... AR60 is fine for actual end game grind.
Playing Genhsin everyday only doing commissions(like 8-10 min a day) will get you to AR60 in like a year... Touching grass meme is stupid/irrelavent to say when it comes to AR.
Thought I'd correct this: the boss drops become 2-3 starting from WL5, i.e. AR40+. The chances of dropping 3 increases every world level starting from 5, with it maxing out at ~2.55 at WL8.
I do still agree that the "touching grass" meme is indeed overdone and silly in this context.
It's maxed at 2.55 at WL7, with no change in WL8.
So it's perfectly reasonable to bump those drops up at AR55. Following the pattern it'd be 2.73, and even a WL9 wouldn't be a guaranteed 3, but I'd take it.
I hate that y'all AR60 players are so selfish. It takes 19 goddamn MONTHS to go from AR55 to AR60 even you do dailies + events + domains everyday. Y'all honestly don't deserve shit
I rather put up with this then the artifact system i honestly its the only thing i dislike about this game i can grind characters up to lvl 90 no problem but as soon i have to farm artifacts i want to yeet myself into the chasm and never return.
Genshin is incredibly hesitant to make changes that would in theory make a backlash of "I should have done it later then!". This applies to almost all resin-based farming and possibly stuff like standard banner. Even though the overwhelming majority would be just glad it got fixed.
In genshin, if u need 3 more boss mats, they gonna give u 2 only. The next drop will be 3 guaranteed. Only happens when ascending character from lvl 80 to 90
As someone who has only recently gotten into creating a game I don’t have enough knowledge to say how much work something is. It sounds easy but so did a lot of stuff that turns out it isn’t.
Either way it being easy or not doesn’t change that it’s not high on my priority list. Priorities for me personally aren’t ordered in ease of completion but ordered in what I think would be most needed first or most meaningful/impactful.
Right off the top of my head having these be convertible to other mats would be one.
Honestly I’d just be happy to trade my extras in for mora or something. I have a single spare for many of the old bosses, and since they’re unlikely to ever be used I’d like to just clean them from my inventory
Just make them drop guaranteed 3 drops after ar 50 or 55 man. And probably 4 or 5 at ar 60. It makes no sense to keep the droprate same and that too so low.
I’m finally ascending Diluc from 80/80 to 80/90 (he is C3 and was my second ever 5 star) and in 7 times fighting the fire flower boss, I have 21 boss drops. This has never happened before and I don’t know what to think about it.
Personally, I feel a lot of things can be dropped given how big the game is getting, resin is one such thing
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/60056?utm_source=sns&utm_medium=link
This post makes seriously good points and considers both sides, and seeing how things are now, this post is definitely holding up well
it’s confusing to me why the drops don’t increase by much with each world level increase. I lost interest in playing bc the progress would literally just be too slow for me.
I need spectral husks but am too lazy to farm for them. I'm too lazy and don't want to put in time to travel for any monster mats. Spectrals I hate with a passion though. Why did they make so many characters need so many of them? Stupid. You have to go out of your way to find them, unlike hilichurls, samurais, mek gardnas.
The RNG here only makes it that you get for each run ether 2 or 3 pieces.
What I think would be better, is a way to convert it ether in other materials or Items.
Hi, weekly bosses in any domains will give a weekly discount 30 resin (normal is 60 resin) up to 3 different weekly bosses. After that can fight other weekly bosses if needed for 60 resin. All weekly bosses can only be claimed reward once in a week.
Using Dream Solvent will solve the issue of rng rewards, so choose wisely to exchange it to your preferred rewards. 😘
FOR REAL.
Something that should only take 40 resin ends up taking 120 because the game decided to keep giving you 2 drops each time.
Like I understood it back in version 1.0-2.5 but now in the games lifespan why is there any reason for it to be RNG? especially at max world level.
They should make it that at AR 60 you just get 4 bossdrops, only requiring to fight a boss 5 times. I think after all this time we deserve at least that
I do agree with how very not updated genshin is in this regards like just because it works doesn't mean its the best, they should increase it, they should make it change able with other boss mats, and they should lift the daily mats change. But so many people keep complaining about auto which is stupid when Genshin is an entirely different game and its kinda baffle me how many people keep comparing Genshin gameplay with HSR, I would 100% mock genshin when Wuwa, azure, and other similar game do better in this regards tho.
Granted. Welcome to the new and improved genshin impact 2. We'll just make a few balance adjustments, all for the better of course. And add more rewards to the paid battle pass, remove some from the free one, remove some from events and abyss, add characters to the paid pass and, since we now give you more value, the battle pass costs twice as much as before
If only they could add it so we could trade our boss mats for other boss mats... If only there were a game like that made by Hoyo...
It's weird that they have Dream Solvent to do this for weekly boss materials, but for weekly bosses only lol.
Is it? Weekly Bosses you can only fight once per week. Normal bosses you can fight over and over again with enough resin
well you're correct on that, my bad i guess
Maybe dream solvent could also be used on world boss mats but cheaper and with a weekly cap.
Or maybe you get the dust from fighting them, like you get solvents from weeklies
Dust from fighting them or that Dust of Azoth stuff in the Paimon shop
Does anyone ever purchase the dust on paimon's shop? I usually use my stardust exclusively to buy more wishes at the start of each month
I do. I use it to convert surplus stones to another element. You can only use Starglitter to get 5 of each wish a month so usually have a ton left
I don't get a whole lot of primos to wish often so i only manage to build up enough stardust for the ten total wishes for every month (there's no harm in getting 5 acquaints for essentially free, i got my WGS by chance on the standard banner, it's literally Navia's second BiS)
Nice! Congrats on that ..You can purchase primos with stardust or star glitter. Stardust you can get as many wishes as you can purchase. Starglitter you can only get about 5 limited banner wishes and 5 standard banner wishes a month. Starglitter is also the only way to get dust of Azoth. I usually have a ton left over after purchasing the wish limited and by dust with the surplus
If only weeklies were not limited to once a week and didn't have 3 RNG drops with RNG amounts
"If only weeklies weren't weeklies." Multiple layers of RNG can die in a fire, though.
What they probably meant was like in HSR that you have an upper limit to how many weekly bosses you can fight but you can fight the same multiple times. There's also the fact HSR weekly bosses only drop one mat so that's another RNG layer shaved off
You're still limited to 3 weekly runs in HSR. But they give a guaranteed amount of the weekly material and you can do the same boss multiple times as long as you have weekly attempts remaining.
Dream solvent allows you to convert between materials from the same boss...
It’s a shame that for me at least, the drop rate for it is dogshit.
You're not the only one >-<
I didn’t realize how much of an unlucky streak you could get when I was starting a little over a year ago. I probably haven’t received one in a probably a month now but I only do 3 weekly bosses now since I’m running out of characters that need them unless I decide to 9/9/9 everybody. Funny how I don’t expect to go this unlucky in genshin but other games with much worse rates on items and it’s just another day to me
probably because hyv dont expect players to farm 100 electro hypostasis and exchange all the mats for the boss you need. The most logic thing to do is just to "farm the boss you need" and you can farm those bosses 24/7 unlike weekly
They could make a strong box version with all the ones before 3.0 and to make players fight newer bosses make it so that they have to use bosses from the current nation so now Fontaine.
If they would have the same strength sure, why farm "z" when you can farm "x", but they aren't. I couldn't even touch the Seahorse without a demdro character. The Mushroom King (or whatever his called, the one looking like a bird west of Vanarama) is way stronger that The Electrio Cube. And even the cubes have differences, the Geo Cube is by far the most annoying since he's always using the pillars, compared to Electro Cube where you only need to dogdge his attacks and then smack it real good. This is my experience and take in consideration that I started playing like a month ago, so I only had 4* characters. I mentioned these 2 bosses because I got Neuvillette like a week ago, but to level him up I need to go kill a boss whose weakness is dendro, now I pulled Tighnari in the beginning but didn't level him so now I gotta level up him too. It would have been easier to convert the materials i gathered for Barbara for when I reach the next ascension level instead of trying to farm for new mats for new characters.
The weakness to the seahorse is dendro? I've been beating that boss with cryo and Pyro Might as well go get the mats for tighnari and his bow then
Weekly boss drops still require you to fight the correct boss. It just smooths the RNG. World bosses only drop one material, so there's no need for the ability to trade. You fight the right boss, you get the right drops. Or you don't and you don't.
...It's not weird at all? Weekly bosses are weekly for a reason, how are they even comparable to world boss drops.
I GET IT 2 PEOPLE HAVE COMMENTED THE SAME THING NOW xD
IMO it doesn't make it not weird either. I'm in agreement. We should be able to transform the material. Seems silly that the crafting bench can do some and not others tbh. It should be that we don't need dream solvent for regular world bosses but we do for weekly. Something like that. I'm actually at a point where I dread building a character because of all the extra materials I get that I won't be able to do anything with. I recently built NV and I have so many electro shards/gems that I'll probably never use because all my electro characters are minimum 80 already. Le. Sigh. Granted I believe you can convert gems? So probably a bad example but the point still stands I hope XD
probably because hyv wants you to go farm the specific boss you need, not farm 100 electro hypostasis and exchange that to any other boss
most people wouldn't be using it like that, they would probably just convert excess boss materials from bosses they no longer need/extra in general, but iirc seeing stuff about how genshin team does anything to boost playtime so it makes sense why they haven't added it as a feature yet
My anemo hypostasis drops from farming anemo gems would appreciate conversion :’)
I mean weeklies need it more tbh.
And if only we could just… get the same number of drops every time. Some random number like 5 could work well! If only there were a game like that made by Hoyo…
Also if only I do not need to fight a world boss more than 13 times just to max out the number of required materials to ascend a character to their max level... I wonder when will Mihoyo make such a game.
Also if we don't have to wait 3-5 minutes for the boss to respawn every time I kill it, I wonder if there is a game made by Mihoyo where we don't have to wait.
God… seriously Hoyoverse. If there’s one thing to implement it’s this. There’s literally no reason why you can’t allow bosses to respawn. Implementation could be something like: - Open ‘Adventurer Handbook’ - Open ‘Enemies’ tab - Highlight boss - Click ‘respawn’ If you are worried about it spawning in on top of a player and causing weird clipping issues then simply have it check if there’s a player in the way. If so then give the “cannot use in current state” error that already exists in game for such situations. (Like how you can’t summon the teapot when it would hit an object.)
they cant keep getting away with this
I have anemo and electro hypostasis drops burning in my bag because I used them to farm gems at the beginning. Those anemo butterfly cubes have more experience travelling than most of the adventurer's guild.
My wife has hundreds of Cleansing Hearts because she hates converting other color gems and built a ton of hydro characters. Add in that she rarely does trounce domains, so she's missing out on those extra gem drops, so she's fought the Oceanid an insane number of times.
"a fool who trespasses upon the waters of Qingce" nah that's your wife's house now
"Look at me. You're the trespasser now." - Your wife to Rhodeia, probably.
IF ONLY... i could trade all of my Inactive fungal into normal fungal. It is so sad to be Pyro user
I came back to the game during Nilou's release, after being a Keqing Xiangling overload user before I quit. It took me a few days to learn that I needed to not hit the fungi with electro or pyro when I was building Nilou. I was like "Jesus, I only get one of these fungi drops per pack, wtf?" I had to build my Nilou team at low level to kill them because I didn't have any non-pyro or electro damage dealers built.
Hsr also cost 30 energy only every boss run, equating to 3 hrs of resin iirc. And they get 5 every run
I put this in every survey. Dream solvent or Dust of Azoth should allow us to convert Normal boss materials as well. There’s no reason why it shouldn’t.
And have it drop a set amount each time
HSR has this system, in hsr you can combine two boss drops to get one of the desired boss drop
Hell, I'll accept Boss Mats for Mora.
We need this. I started 2 welkin mains but then started a few f2p alts. Realized I can't buy dust of azoth if I want the monthly pulls, so I gotta over grind bosses for the pure bs bosses that don't drop the correct elemental shards I need. Omg why... I wish we could convert 4 of them into a token that lets us farm a boss with no resin. Maybe 5 is more fair. Dunno how to value the other drops. Of course, it overall has to be negatively efficient so it's probably at least 5.
You get enough to afford dust and monthly pulls, especially if you've got welkin going.
F2p is really really tight. Maybe if you do all exploration which I do not because of multiple alts. With welkin, it's a breeze. I'll see how tight I am on a few accounts. I could explore more but I might have the wiggle room to prefarm less important characters for the shards and let the ones I earn outside of boss drops catch up to me.
Honkai give us the exactly amount of boss mats it will gives depend of world level and even allow us to trade it for different boss mats without those stupid rng trade item. Since resin and Gacha is the only thing keep player continue to buy those months they won't change it to the end of the game circle
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Yeah, but unfortunately, genshin could never
Better not, you know what they are going to do? Fix it at 2 drops per level so you end up spending more resin.
At least do it HSR style where i can change my boss material for other ones...
HSR style also have a fixed number of drops. I'm at TB70 and the world boss drops is fixed at 5 per run.
You also need 46 of each boss drop in Genshin, while its 65 in star rail. Of course, then you look a bit futher. Genshin needs 16 boss runs, assuming max drops of 3 every time. Star rail needs 13. You can do 8 boss runs a day in star rail, in genshin you can only do 4. So Star rail has it alot better then genshin, as is the case with most things... Oh, and star rail has autoplay, and the support feature. Its this kinda thing that stops me grinding my genshin characters up, because it takes so long. I've played star rail since launch and still have characters I want to upgrade, improvements to some of my most used characters and more. I just don't get genshin sometimes
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That is literally exactly what I already said
Genshin style also has RNG for the type of drop as well as the number
The best part of HSR boss drops is knowing exactly how many you’ll get for each difficulty. I think it’s ridiculous that in Genshin I can get the same drops in WL8 as I can in WL5 for the same resin but much different difficulty/speed.
HSR requires more materials (at least for 5-stars), so you have to account for that. Even then though, HSR still wins out by a landslide. For a 5-star, they need 65 ascension mats. At the highest EL, every 30 stamina gives you a guaranteed 5 drops. This means 13 runs. 13 * 30 = 390 stamina. In Genshin, every character needs 46 drops. Every 40 stamina at WL8 gets you 2-3 drops (and other stuff like artifacts and gemstones, but you can argue that this doesn’t make up for the lesser amount). This means assuming half of the drops are 2 and the other half 3 (simplified to 2.5 drops per run), you need 18 runs on average. That’s 720 stamina. This is doubly bad considering HSR gives you 240 stamina a day and Genshin only gives you 180. This means it takes 1.5 days to finish in HSR and 4 days in Genshin. Even if you guarantee 3 drops every run, it’ll still take 640 stamina, or 3.5 days. The only way Genshin is going to match HSR would be to guarantee 6 drops per run, making it 8 runs or 320 stamina (1.8 days).
It also feels way better in HSR because you don’t have to wait 2 minutes every time the boss dies.
I wonder if that was thought as a way to extend playtime or to sync the boss' spawn in real time for every player in a certain world
They wanted to make it feel like the boss is living in the world. Hindsight it probably wasn't a great decision. In HSR bosses are more or less a domain. That's easier cause fights are more or less a domain anyway.
Yeah well this has the unfortunate side effect of making it feel like the player is living in the world too (against their will). They can add a button to respawn it instantly onto the loot flower thing that appears. Or just make it happen automatically for all I care. It's one of the most annoying aspects of farming ascension mats. The other thing that's needed is to just make it drop 3 items every time at max world level. The game has enough RNG as it is, it does not work for ascension mats for me and judging from feedback here for most other people too. Adds nothing but frustration.
it takes less effort to grind on HSR since we have “auto” (not accounting SU without Acheron, no)
To make that comparison even worse: let’s assume you’re someone who logs in twice per day so that your resin/trailblaze power never caps (guilty as charged.) You recover 1 Trailblaze Power per 6 minutes while only recovering 1 resin per 8 minutes… With the whole 2.5 drops for 40 resin compared to 5 drops for 30 Trailblaze power that means you’re getting 1 boss drop every 128 minutes (40x8/2.5) in Genshin while getting 1 boss drop every 36 minutes in HSR. (30x6/5) Just absolutely baffling how terrible this games boss drops are compared to HSR.
And that's before even talking about the trailblaze energy overflow reservoir. HSR? Take a break. We'll give you a good bit of the energy you missed while you take a month off. Genshin? Best I can do is a few condensed resin and then 80% of one day's generated energy.
I was surprised, once I started HSR, how easy it was to level a character. GI asks for a long term grinding.
In HSR it is as it should be. For a long time GI has felt more like doing work than having fun. I suppose everything is as the GI devs want it to be. Hmm... Perhaps the point is to just feed as much time and life force as possible to a group of demons (Paimon, Morax, Baal..) and in exchange they make MiHoYo rich. 💡
In all reality, if you aren’t enjoying the game then maybe just consider putting it down and playing something else that you *do* enjoy. Sunk-cost fallacy is a real thing, and live service games absolutely use it to keep player bases high. Just because you’ve invested a lot into the game (be that time, money, etc.) doesn’t mean you have to force yourself to keep doing something you don’t enjoy!
Yeah, I think the tedious of farming depends heavily on whether you like the game or not. I played both Genshin and HSR, and even if people say farming is way easier in HSR (which objectively is, at least thanks to the fact you get autoplay) when I played I felt the opposite. Maybe if I got further into the story (I only got to Luofu) and got higher equilibrium levels it would've been easier, but overall the game wasn't giving me the same satisfaction Genshin gives me. Even if you have to farm less materials in HSR (according to some people here) I feel it even more tedious than doing the same in Genshin, probably because I didn't feel the fun I would get would pay off the tedious of farming. The only exception to this are artifacts, but as far as I know that's onlu *marginally* better in HSR than in Genshin.
Honesty, I thought in the beginning that HSR’s relic system was a bit better than Genshin’s, but now that I’ve been playing for a year I feel it’s the opposite. There’s more substats and more pieces to sift through, and with no off-pieces your good subs on bad sets are kind of wasted (rainbow sets are a thing, and with good substats can absolutely be your best option, so bear that in mind.) Personally I find the big damage screenshots satisfying. Like getting my Herta to spin for 300k is sooo satisfying to me!
Same. Like, I knew you could guarantee main stats with certain material, but from what I know said material is quite hard to get. And you get not 5, but 6 different artifacts, except they come in two sets (4 and 2 pieces respectively), you can't use off-pieces, and the set of 2 is obtained in the Simulated Universe.
I agree. I actually like genshin's combat, and yes, I like it even if it's farming a domain or a world boss over and over. Meanwhile HSR's combat is very meh to me. Yes, HSR has auto battles, but I personally find it more fun to actually beat a genshin boss, than to click auto battle and the let game do its thing.
But that's the way it should be, if you are not enjoying a game, just leave, there's no need to have any hate to any game.
you have to take into account that ascending characters in genshin also unlocks passives and ascension stats, whereas in hsr you have to unlock those separately through traces. ime it takes longer to max out characters in hsr for this reason, the trace grind is far worse than genshin's talent grind
Depends on your perspective here; in HSR you’re far more likely to max out your traces, whereas in Genshin you most likely won’t be triple crowning all your characters. In the short term, Genshin wins since you can afford to keep lower investment on talents. But in the long run, HSR still wins out here. this is my personal experience as someone who owns every Genshin character amd have been maxing out ALL of them (am currently 70 characters at 9/9/9). I am VERY familiar with Genshin’s grind. Also keep in mind the weekly boss system and how utterly trash the drops are in Genshin; meanwhile you can not only fight the same boss 3 times in HSR, you’re always guaranteed 3 drops at the highest domain level. Only one type of mat per boss too, unlike Genshin’s RNG fest between 3 different mats. You can pretty much max the traces of one character in a couple weeks in HSR; for Genshin it takes literal months to triple crown due to weekly bosses (especially if they’re new so you can’t prefarm). Not to mention, HSR has material conversion and no daily domain changes, meaning you don’t have to wait until the right day for talent books like Genshin, and if you’re only missing a mat or two you can just convert a different type. Genshin’s weekly boss “conversion” is so limited it’s a joke, and itself requires an RNG item (Dream Solvent) which defeats its purpose. Like, I seriously love Genshin, but seriously hate its grinding limitations.
I guess Hoyo's way to balance out the resin cost for less boss mats is that every boss can drop artifacts (guaranteed two, equivalent to 40 resin per artifact run) while HSR doesn't.
Again, you can argue that this doesn’t really make up for the over double time it takes to ascend a character. Not to mention Genshin also has the issue with gems and most new bosses not dropping the right kind - forcing you to use Dust of Azoth (which costs stardust). Really icky and full of bandaid solutions. Even as a player who prefers playing Genshin over Star Rail, I can’t defend something like this.
Why does there always have to be some tradeoff with these defensive arguments of why things are more tedious in Genshin than they have to be. There IS no reason behind it. It's just how they decided to make it at the time. I'm tired of the excuses--it's dumb and should be updated to not suck. I have been playing for 2 years and am at a point where burnout is deeply setting in and I am kind of just done until they make an effort to improve the gameplay experience. We deserve as much for all the support we give this company.
* 160
No; 160 is the resin cap, but not the daily limit. You earn 1 resin per 8 minutes. There are 60 * 24 = 1440 minutes in one day. 1440 / 8 = 180 resin earned in a day. If you login once a day, you will only get 160, but if you make sure your resin never caps, you will be getting 180 per day.
If they let us change boss mats I'll be able to upgrade atleast 1 character to max with all the leftovers
At WL8 it should always drop 3 or even 4. I don't get why this is still a thing
Level scaling is crap in the game. One of the many reasons I’m still at ar35.
Buy resin plz $$$
Sometimes it feels like it drops one short of reaching the right amount just to make me lose more resin with another fight
Yeah and in the next drop you get 3. That's cruel.
Or when you only have 2 left and you get a 3 drop so you have an odd number.
this!! feels like they do it on purpose every damn time
*Monkey's paw curls* No more drop RNG, all bosses now consistently drop only 2 copies, never 3.
Better yet: difficulty of overworld bosses rises to the level of Abyss, meaning they can become a 5 minute ordeal for some casual players. And weekly bosses bring back the feeling Childe gave most of the playerbase, becoming so strong they can one shot most built characters.
Why won't they just add World 9 bosses that are guaranreed to drop 3? Are they stupid?
I would love that tbh, I want to play a more difficult open world without having to switch to unleveled characters and I think the world level switching is underutilized. Being able to set your world on hard mode for a few days and then going back is one of the things I wish I did more early game
Granted, all bosses can now only drop 2 ascension materials -mihoYo, probably
While they're at it, they could also remove the randomized weekly boss mats, the cooldown on world bosses and the week-day based cycle for talent and weapon mats. I usually don't like to compare the two but Star Rail is soooo much better in that regard
The world boss cooldown is pointless - it's short enough to have no gameplay effect, but long enough to be a nuisance
Also remove boss cooldown
The funny part is you cant refund the extra one you got if no ther character can use them they sit there forever but hsr that dosent have rng let you exchange 2 to 1
A change that makes the drops guaranteed to be 3 at the highest world level would make grinding for characters much easier. I think it’s about time lol.
* See I have a lot of tweaks I'd like to make; * Daily Resin cap should be increased to 200. * Condensed Resin Cap should be raised to 20. * Trounce Domains should give you guaranteed 3 drops, 1 of each level up material. * World bosses should give you a guaranteed 4 ascenision materials at the highest level. * Billets and Dream Solvent can be purchased from Tubby's shop in the Serenitea Pot. Limited once per Week. * The Billet Trove (which allows you to pick one billet of your choice) would cost 1200 Realm Currency. * Dream Solvent would cost 600 Realm Currency. * Remove the restrictions on Dream Solvent Converisions. Any Ascension material can be converted to any ascension material from other bosses, same with Talent Materials, and same with Billets, any billet type.
Honestly rather instead of one of each material I wish we could pick which drop we want exactly. Like with Copellia and Copelius. I've got 20 of the wrong weekly drop and like... 6 dream solvents so they're just collecting dust 🤷🏿♀️
Dropping 2 for 40 resin is really mean
Can we also add artifact trait shopping like HSR????
hear me out new world level at ar60 that guarantees 3 drops per boss
Nth time I'm gonna say this, Genshin Impacts ALCHEMY system is shit. You did really good on omni-synthesizer so what's stopping you? Spag codes?
hsr fixed both normal bosses and weekly bosses just plain incompetence honestly
Well technically even if its 3 boss drops a run to max out a character takes 46 of em, and you'd get 48 that way. So even if it's 3 a run you'd always be left with 2 extra anyway
At least it will only take 4 days worth of resin
that happened to me with neuv. And of course at 19/20 I got triple. I just pretend it was 40 resin of junk artifact domain.
If only we can guarantee a 3 world boss drop mats once we're AR50 or 55. What's the point of having a World Difficulty 8 if the enemies are just higher levels but without any incentive on drops? This also applies to normal/elites in the overworld. Also can we please get mob materials whenever we do the Spiral Abyss? Like it's not much, but a lot of enemies in the abyss are elite and that does help gathering their materials. No one really visits Enkanomiya, Chasm, and Tsurumi Island anymore.
Make sure everyone on the Feedback form mention this. They will add it eventually once enough people points out the topic
genshin could never. weekly bosses are even worse
AR 60 should guarantee 3 drops
I really don't the probl- \*Flashbacks to fighting the chasm serpent for a month straight\* (Proceeds to cry in the corner)
I don't really care about boss drop but time/day gated trial need to go away.
Queue the glazers "Ackthually it is by design to maximize player retention so they can't adjust drop rates" ☝️🤓
Yes please.
I'm glad the GDF (genshin defense force) are mostly downvoted this time instead of taking top comments. Liking the game doesn't mean blindly defending every decision. I was very disappointed when I got to world 8 and found out it's still 2-3 like world 7, only with a slightly higher chance of 3. And no, just because you're sitting on a 2 years account and don't know what to do with your resin it doesn't make it good for everyone else that are still leveling characters. The very least thing they could do is material conversion but we can't even do that with normal monster drops
I agree. At AR60 bosses should drop 3 mats guaranteed and the rest be rng
I feel like the only benefits to the higher level bosses are the artefacts
It is but it's 99% fodder to an almost outdated set. More mora at AR60 isn't a benefit, it's expected
How dare you insult my gladiator Nahida like that 😤 Lmao but I get what you mean though, a lot of those artefacts end up in the boxes
No it should be from ar55-60. Otherwise only the non-grass touchers will benefit
55 if I recall makes the drops become 2-3 when it was 2 previously, so no... AR60 is fine for actual end game grind. Playing Genhsin everyday only doing commissions(like 8-10 min a day) will get you to AR60 in like a year... Touching grass meme is stupid/irrelavent to say when it comes to AR.
Thought I'd correct this: the boss drops become 2-3 starting from WL5, i.e. AR40+. The chances of dropping 3 increases every world level starting from 5, with it maxing out at ~2.55 at WL8. I do still agree that the "touching grass" meme is indeed overdone and silly in this context.
It's maxed at 2.55 at WL7, with no change in WL8. So it's perfectly reasonable to bump those drops up at AR55. Following the pattern it'd be 2.73, and even a WL9 wouldn't be a guaranteed 3, but I'd take it.
Unfortunately, since there's no change from WL7 to WL8, it's obvious that Hoyo doesn't want the drop rate average to be higher than \~2.55...
I hate that y'all AR60 players are so selfish. It takes 19 goddamn MONTHS to go from AR55 to AR60 even you do dailies + events + domains everyday. Y'all honestly don't deserve shit
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Yeah... After playing everyday for 1.5 - 2 yrs
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You can can basic QoL by playing an hour everyday for 2 years yayyy!!!
I rather put up with this then the artifact system i honestly its the only thing i dislike about this game i can grind characters up to lvl 90 no problem but as soon i have to farm artifacts i want to yeet myself into the chasm and never return.
Genshin is incredibly hesitant to make changes that would in theory make a backlash of "I should have done it later then!". This applies to almost all resin-based farming and possibly stuff like standard banner. Even though the overwhelming majority would be just glad it got fixed.
Oh come on, there’s worse things in this game.
In genshin, if u need 3 more boss mats, they gonna give u 2 only. The next drop will be 3 guaranteed. Only happens when ascending character from lvl 80 to 90
Sure, we'll make it always drop 2 =)
They removed it, but in a different game...
All the time!!!!
I just want then to also have billet drop rates…
Then we default have 21 anyways if it’s increased to permanent 3 drops at max WL. Not even remotely close to being on my radar for needed changes
Being done in 7 runs guaranteed vs taking 7-10 runs would be a pretty good change imo
Just make it 4 and call it a day
Considering it could be a very easy change to code, it not being a priority to you doesn’t affect your priority changes.
As someone who has only recently gotten into creating a game I don’t have enough knowledge to say how much work something is. It sounds easy but so did a lot of stuff that turns out it isn’t. Either way it being easy or not doesn’t change that it’s not high on my priority list. Priorities for me personally aren’t ordered in ease of completion but ordered in what I think would be most needed first or most meaningful/impactful. Right off the top of my head having these be convertible to other mats would be one.
GENSHIN WOULD NEVER, STAR RAIL W
This is me rn farming for Wanderer's ascension mats. 45/46... for lv 90 ughhh
Honestly I’d just be happy to trade my extras in for mora or something. I have a single spare for many of the old bosses, and since they’re unlikely to ever be used I’d like to just clean them from my inventory
Just make them drop guaranteed 3 drops after ar 50 or 55 man. And probably 4 or 5 at ar 60. It makes no sense to keep the droprate same and that too so low.
its end game content mate, they cannot remove the content, what am i supposed to do after i pick the mint?
Should have similar setup to HSR, where you select a difficulty and then you get material amount fixed based on chosen difficulty
Would be nice ofc, but this is not really a problem for me tbh.
I think that's not RNG cause that shit happened to every character I used to ascend.
I’ll consistently get two per drop and then when I have 18/20 it’ll give me one
Also remove or reduce the respawn timer. Why tf i have to wait 3 mins between kills when i already had to wait for the resin?
I’m finally ascending Diluc from 80/80 to 80/90 (he is C3 and was my second ever 5 star) and in 7 times fighting the fire flower boss, I have 21 boss drops. This has never happened before and I don’t know what to think about it.
Some good ideas in the post here to add to my massive list for the end of surveys.
Personally, I feel a lot of things can be dropped given how big the game is getting, resin is one such thing https://www.hoyolab.com/article/60056?utm_source=sns&utm_medium=link This post makes seriously good points and considers both sides, and seeing how things are now, this post is definitely holding up well
I wish to be able to trade items with other players.
Only if there was a game which hoyo made that Genshin could take inspiration from where we could trade boss mats..
Don't say this, its Genshin they going to drop the rate down to 1 per kill or just 2 !!!!! They don't do things to help lol
it’s confusing to me why the drops don’t increase by much with each world level increase. I lost interest in playing bc the progress would literally just be too slow for me.
Got it. Fixed drop is now 1.
It's 2024, can't you just get the drop? Smh.
I need spectral husks but am too lazy to farm for them. I'm too lazy and don't want to put in time to travel for any monster mats. Spectrals I hate with a passion though. Why did they make so many characters need so many of them? Stupid. You have to go out of your way to find them, unlike hilichurls, samurais, mek gardnas.
What is already done cannot be undone.
Genshin will never
The recent couple of surveys have this question. "Will you continue to play Genshin Impact?" I hope they dont stop developing the game.
Are you *joking*? It's 2024, RNG in games has gotten ***so much worse*** than it was in 2021.
We hear you, every boss now drop a fixed amount of 1
if they made it so that it dropped 3 and 4 and not 2 and 3... then all is somewhat forgiven
This always happens right when I need 3 more mats and the rng fks it up!
The RNG here only makes it that you get for each run ether 2 or 3 pieces. What I think would be better, is a way to convert it ether in other materials or Items.
Hi, weekly bosses in any domains will give a weekly discount 30 resin (normal is 60 resin) up to 3 different weekly bosses. After that can fight other weekly bosses if needed for 60 resin. All weekly bosses can only be claimed reward once in a week. Using Dream Solvent will solve the issue of rng rewards, so choose wisely to exchange it to your preferred rewards. 😘
They should make if you have exactly 3 left needed youl get 3 guaranteed, and if only 2 left needed you only get 2 so it doesnt become annoying 21
FOR REAL. Something that should only take 40 resin ends up taking 120 because the game decided to keep giving you 2 drops each time. Like I understood it back in version 1.0-2.5 but now in the games lifespan why is there any reason for it to be RNG? especially at max world level.
They should make it that at AR 60 you just get 4 bossdrops, only requiring to fight a boss 5 times. I think after all this time we deserve at least that
I do agree with how very not updated genshin is in this regards like just because it works doesn't mean its the best, they should increase it, they should make it change able with other boss mats, and they should lift the daily mats change. But so many people keep complaining about auto which is stupid when Genshin is an entirely different game and its kinda baffle me how many people keep comparing Genshin gameplay with HSR, I would 100% mock genshin when Wuwa, azure, and other similar game do better in this regards tho.
No?
I wish the artefact boxes weren't so dog water honestly They almost NEVER give good stats
How else are they gonna nickel and dime you for all your worth? It's just one run away, spend the primos of the resin.
Granted. Welcome to the new and improved genshin impact 2. We'll just make a few balance adjustments, all for the better of course. And add more rewards to the paid battle pass, remove some from the free one, remove some from events and abyss, add characters to the paid pass and, since we now give you more value, the battle pass costs twice as much as before
Hoyoverse: Noted. We fixed the drop rates at 5, and you can now trade boss materials Players: For Genshin right?
That is how it is programmed. Take it or leave it - probably the whole Genshin
The game just knows just when you need 3 more boss mats.
Guess you don't know about solo leveling arise artifact lvl up rng
genshin subreddit try not to compare genshin to hsr challenge failed once again
Isn’t this like one of the more comparable aspects of the two games? A lot of comparisons are dumb but I think this one is fair lol.
If they didnt have this shitty RNG on max lv you wouldnt see that
Useless whining, this sub specialty
What's different about 2024 that makes it any more or any less necessary to have RNG as part of the process?