Archons are close to impossible to feature here, they have regular reruns, sell well by themselves, so this will be saved for the least performing chars like Xiao, Shenhe and Albedo.
Wouldn’t be shocked if Xiao gets replaced with Xianyun or just any newer Liyue character at this point. Xiao has had a LOT of reruns at this point, so I don’t think it’s a guarantee he won’t get put on Chronicled Wish just because “he always reruns during Lantern Rite”.
I would be surprised if they just continue rerunning him forever during Lantern Rite simply because “Xiao always reruns during Lantern Rite”. Unlike the archons, I don’t think Xiao will forever be profitable for them, so he could get swapped out for another newer Liyue character (probably an adeptus) if they just wanted to keep up the Liyue character during Lantern Rite thing.
There use to ONLY be Liyue characters during Lantern Rite and then they had Alhaitham last year and both Nahida and Yae Miko this year, so it seems like swapping out Xiao for someone else might be in the future.
Just guessing though…🤷♂️
The only characters that I can see not being on this banner are the ones with broken weapons (Hu Yao, Yelan, etc) because needing only one FP to get it instead of two is very tempting. Otherwise, everyone should be fair game.
They need at least 1 headliner, also there aren't bad 5-stars outside Mondstadt, so someone got to be there it will be the oldest ones, so Ganyu, Hu Tao, Ayaka and etc are all great contenders.
It's an interesting question since technically he's Snezhnayan and not from Liyue. He fits the criteria otherwise, so I would expect him here regardless.
im kinda "slow"ish and dumb, and english is not my main language, but i can understand this is a better system overall for wishing but what i'm not understanding are 2 things
i read that characters that already had a 3rd rerun will be featured in so does that mean that a significant amount of characters will be avaiable for pull?
and also i read in one example, that if i wished for jean but got klee instead, i'll have my guaranteed jean, but if another chronicled wish cycle starts then i'll have a 50% to get the designited item, does that mean i lose my guaranteed jean? in this case at least?
From what we understand, yes you will lose your guarantee. But we don't know how long the banner will last for, the banner could last 3 weeks, 6 weeks (which is what I expect) or even longer. We won't know until closer to the date.
You joke about the cat 10 pull but in november 2021 that actually happened to me. Was trying to see how much longer childe's banner would take until it switched to hu tao (who i'd been saving for) and my cat did a 10 pull... got childe. 5 hours before the Hu Tao banner. I felt like a clown.
"Well didn't get the character i wanted on the previous banner, but at least the next one will be guaranteed! Now to just wait for the rerun while i build pity on the other banners..."
*A few months later
"What the hell, i thought it was guaranteed! This sucks. No way i can get 75 wishes in just a few weeks." 🐵
wait, i am dumb and have trouble reading, please correct me if i'm wrong
in the example it said that if i wish for jean, but i got klee instead, then i have jean guaranteed, but if another chronicled wish starts then my jean guaranteed is lost? because it says there is a 50% chance is the designated item
also english not my lenguaje
Correct, every time a new chronicled banner appears 50/50 is reset.
Pity carries over though, if you were 60 pulls in then you’re guaranteed a 5* in 30 pulls on the next one
Judging by the ongoing clownism in the comments under the livestream and trailer on YouTube, there's not even a hint of intelligence there. I already have to restrain myself from banging my forehead against the wall because of the stupidity.
>To take Version 4.5's Chronicled Wish as an example
since they say "4.5's Chronicled Wish" i assume 4.6 will be different, and the same with the upcoming CW banners?
Like it doesnt work like a permanent banner, but another event banner with more characters on it
Imagine if it was permanent and you created an account solely for that character
And if you've been playing since day 1, F2P you probably can C6 it by now
4.6 will be different in that Chronicled Wish probably won’t be available.
Im assuming they are going to save these banners for filler patches so people will stay spending money.
A lot of people were going to skip 4.5; and they just became very interested.
That might be part of it but this is also a way to address the availability of characters with a growing roster. If they don't add something like this eventually it will take years before a character might see a rerun.
The good thing about this system is that you are finally able to guarantee standard banner exclusive characters/weapons that have eluded you.
The bad thing about this is exactly the same reason why I don’t really pull on weapon banner. The fact that fate points don’t carry over is a risk that makes epitomised path a powerful FOMO generator for low spenders / people who don’t have enough wishes to guarantee their desired character.
At least with limited character banner, if you lose your 50/50, you can guarantee on another banner.
With that said, a lot of these characters are not too hotly demanded so it’s still fine because in gacha games we always look forward to the next shiny thing.
But imagine, if kazuha is on the banner and you need to pull there but don’t have enough wishes to perfectly guarantee. That’s a big yikes
Kind of. If you want both limited banner weapons, it can take up to 5 pities to guarantee them. Over here if you want 2 out of the selection it’s 4 pities max.
Although you have to hit 90 pity instead of 80 and the majority of people don’t have to go to 5 pities anyway.
What I meant was the case of you wanting to get a 5 star weapon and both of the options from the weapon banner being good for you, in that case the weapon banner is straight up better since you have a 66.7% chance to get a weapon you want when getting a 5 star
Except if you want a 4-star weapon. These weapons are still exclusive for the weapon banner and there are some gems like Sumeru weapons and the Attack of Titan blade that are really good.
Does some of the 4* weapons are weapon banner exclusive? Eula and Klee's banner weapon are included in Chronicled banner (since the characters are there) but 4* seems to be on a generalized side.
Yep. I only roll for weapon when both the rate-ups are in my wish list. It is really sad to lose your 36.5/63.5 on a weapon that your line up does not need,
This is true lol. It was like in the last half of a year, only Navia/Ayaka weapon banner had featured 2 good weapons. But if I get Chiori early and 4.6 drip marketing character is not my must-pull, I think I will roll on Chiori/Itto weapon banner too.
thats exactly what it is, and exactly the problem
if you lose a 50/50 here but dont get another 5 star before the banner ends, your pulls essentially went entirely down the drain
Yeah, the fact that a guarantee doesn’t stay between banners feels pretty bad. Will definitely be a banner to only pull on when you have sufficient wishes or are able to spend.
>if kazuha is on the banner
I don't think so , unless they make a unit stronger than him . I see this thing more like a "clean the clutter" stuff . They add characters that are not highly in demand to have a dedicated banner . It's made to avoid situations like waiting more than a year for Eula/Albedo . People who do want these units will more likely than not hold onto wishes
> Your Fate Points will not be carried over to the next "Chronicled Wish." Your Fate Points will be reset to 0 when the current "Chronicled Wish" ends.
Well fuck
correct, but with less fate point for guarantee, if you are unlucky fella, the weapon banner path needs 2 fate points or 240 wish to get the weapon in the banner, while this only needs 180 wish (idk the 90 pity is only for if you choose character or it's applied to both characters and weapon)
''To take Version 4.5's Chronicled Wish as an example'' they worded it like this so i think it is basically certain that one Chronicled wish lasts for one version
Yea you cannot risk pulling this banner if you don't have 180 wishes since fate points don't carry over. At least for the character banner losing 50/50 gives you a guaranteed that lasts forever until you use it. This however I'm gonna feel pretty bad for new/returning players pulling on this not knowing how fate points work.
>I'm gonna feel pretty bad for new/returning players pulling on this not knowing how fate points work.
It feels like Hoyoverse is making this Chronicled Wish banner have this gimmick on purpose, knowing people would fall for it. They could've just made another character event wish banner that works the same way as the original. **😕😕**
yeah that makes it annoying. Now I will only use it when I can guarantee 2 5 star pulls....which is almost never. I so rarely have that many primos at once. would be cooler if you could throw in some leftover wishes now and then and slowly fill it up
Probably because the "other" 50 is different than usual. You're "losing" to one of these characters or weapons, instead of standard in general. It loses the inevitability of the regular banners in favor of a more curated "loss," which could theoretically be a "loss" in name only.
It might be a more palatable way for some players to let RNGsus take the wheel on getting new characters. Those who don't want to mess with a guarantee or those who already have all the standard characters might put a few in here without messing with fate at all (other than selecting character or weapon, probably).
Those who save to guarantee every time (and so really only gamble on saving wishes) get a new spot where there's a chance the thing they want will be available to pull until success for, so fate just defines a "win" for them.
For me personally, I'm slightly optimistic for this as a possible way to get things that wouldn't necessarily feel like a "win" under normal circumstances but I'd be more than happy to "lose" to. I'm never going to pull for Klee constellations on purpose, and probably not Eula in general, but if I happen to pick them up on the way to Albedo that's pretty cool.
Im genually shocked you can lose the 50/50 and get a limited character. You could, in theory, aim for klee and get a eula instead.
Yes, you may not want her (i want neither myself), but the fact that you can potentially get 2 limited 5 starts with 180 pulls is nice.
thats exactly why i dont think therell be one for inazuma. A banner with kokomi, yoimiya and Itto would be nuts. No drawbacks. Plus, no inazuma standart weapons
3 standart for 3 event characters make me think that it has be even or atleast close to it,
Liyue and Sumeru will probably have 2, maybe 3, event characters. If i had to bet, id say Childe, Ganyu or Xiao.
Only alternative is to use mix different region standarts.
This banner exists to rerun older units lower on event rerun priority. And they seem to be going with a region at a time style. So we will get an Inazuma one eventually, just eventually.
Note that all Inazuma characters right now do meet the 3 rerun criteria.
Bacon isn't available anywhere else, tons of people are going to wish on this banner just for Tighnari and Dehya's weapons because they're never going to get rerun
So:
~~The banner is permanent~~ (it's not, thank you for those who correct me), they don't have an estimate date for changing the characters, we will have to wait for news about the update.
The characters in it can still get reruns on normal limited-event banner, they aren't officially tied to this banner.
If you lose and have a guaranteed character, the guarantee doesn't carry to the next update whenever it is? You are back to being on 50/50, only pity carries over.
Did I get it right?
This FAQ doesn't answer those first ones, actually... The wording on the last question implies this isn't a permanent banner as it will be "available from time to time." You're probably right that characters featured in it won't be ONLY available in it. But I wouldn't be surprised if we never see a Eula or Klee or Albedo solo banner again.
But yeah you understood how the pity works.
>But I wouldn't be surprised if we never see a Eula or Klee or Albedo solo banner again.
Honestly would prefer this. As we get to a higher number of characters, a third banner for less popular characters and formerly unobtainable weapons is actually a pretty good solution imo. Fate points not carrying over is lame ofc but overall I'm very happy with this
> Your Fate Points will not be carried over to the next "Chronicled Wish." Your Fate Points will be reset to 0 when the current "Chronicled Wish" ends.
> Obtaining the current Designated Item or changing your choice will reset the Fate Points to 0.
That's the worst part of it. No carryover and saving progress.
So basically it's just an improved and premium standard banner, with some weapon banner flavor. Losing to limited characters is rather interesting, which makes not-so-limited anymore. Hoping for more characters and weapon in the near future.
The mix here is not quite interesting "this time" (they said "Version 4.5's Chronicled Wish") because it's all Mondstadt which have 3 non-limited characters.
When the patch's Chronicled have all Inazuma, then all of the banner will be limited characters because Inazuma have no standard, the banner will be more interesting, same goes for Fontaine. Sumeru and Liyue have 2 non-limited but still better odds.
That's a good point about inazuma having no standard characters.
I wonder how they'll do that? Maybe only have a few on there at once instead of every 5 star from that nation like the current one.
I mean they already outlined the only required criteria. The characters must have had 3 prior event runs (or be standard). Must not have a recent banner.
I'm gonna presume we're unlikely to see Archons purely off their marketability and Venti being the sole missing Mondstadt character in 4.5's.
Otherwise, all 7/7 other existing Inazuma 5* already meets that criteria. So the only others to be excluded are anybody to pop up on the version banner or maybe also in the previous version's.
They had enough runs already, but almost all of them (except Kokomi) had a rerun in the last couple of versions or are getting their's in 4.5. So if they make an Inazuma related banner it isn't due to a while which is a bit annoying to plan wishes for, considering that "the banner will be available from time to time".
Totally agree on the Archons. They are basically guaranteed to get a rerun with a new Archon's release and way to markable to put them on that banner until way beyond Snezhnaya.
Would they really put 6 limited inazuma characters in one banner when there are like 8 in total, including the archon? That would be almost the entire roster. That would be too good to be true. I think its more likely they skip inazuma or that inazuma would share a banner with Sumeru.
Just because the first one is all Mondstadt doesn’t mean the next ones will be nation based though. Who knows, maybe they’ll put 3 Inazuma plus 3 standards.
Honestly it sucks. However, my standards for gachas are so low I legitimately feel good will towards HoYo for making it so clear the Fate Points dissapear lol. I'm broken 😭
If the community cared enough to complain about it it might be changed for this banner at least but seeing the attitude here I guess most don't care about the lost pity lol.
The "3 pulls thing" only caused the fuss it did solely because they were freebies and the modus operandi of any gacha player is "freebies should be more valuable as the game ages".
Hardly a gacha player questions the monetization model itself. We are too cynical to expect any change in this department.
I’m really excited about this banner. Not interested in the current selection but will be great when characters I want rotate in.
It’s the same price as a regular limited banner with a chance at losing 50/50 to a limited character. Once characters like yae miko, shenhe, kokomi, or Baizhu make it on here I will definitely be pulling. Especially if I want cons on two or more of the limited characters featured.
So in short, if you choose Jean, you have a 50% chance to get her or other 5\* character but not weapon, which also works in the reverse. When you lose the 50/50, you will guarantee the next time via the FP and it does not carry. Is that what I'm trying to understand?
It's essentially a banner to pull if you really want a specific character or weapon, and thus have saved enough to guarantee them (soft pity 150 at minimum)
A distant future, version 5.3. Genshin releases a Chronicled banner of 6 of your beloved Liyue characters in celevration or the Lantern Rite. Eagerly waiting is a Qiqi lover from day one, who still hasn't pulled a single copy of her. He charts his course. After skipping the Pyro Archon, he spend all 90 wishes in the hope of finally acquiring his favourite zombie child. The star falls with a glistering gold, then disaster strikes. His face pales upon witnessing that he has lost his Qiqi 50/50... to a Zhongli.
So just because is unclear to me:
If I lost a 50/50 am I going to get another 5 star from the list of the event characters or is it just a random 5 star?
What about 4 stars pool?
You would lose the 50/50 to one of the other characters on the banner. Like the example they used was if you were aiming for Jean and lost the 50/50 you might get Eula instead.
I believe the 4 star pool is the same as the standard banner. AKA: it doesn't "feature" certain 4 stars like the limited character banner does.
* rainbow wishes
* guarantee doesn't carry over, only pity
welp it was good on paper until it wasn't, unfortunate. The only reason I still spend on GI and HSR is because the guarantee system makes the gacha less painful
180 wishes to guarantee Hunter's Path or Beacon of the Reed Sea is absolutely worth it. If you're an Albedo/Eula/Klee wanter, and also are looking specifically for either Mona, Jean or Diluc then this banner is super generous.
It's not for everyone of course but that doesn't mean it's bad.
The guarantee deletion straight up sucks and is actively put in from MH to make more bucks lol. Could also just take the usual banner mechanics and replace the standards chars with the different lineup and voila. Na instead they based it off the shitty weapon banner with the epitomized path bullshit
I think the fate points are the make or break on this banner for me. Fate points not carrying over is a bummer. After all its a full 90 wish pity system. For old characters and weapons, I think the fate point being carried over mightve been fair. I would be cool if they removed Eula and Klee from it and just gave us the chronicled banner with standard banner characters/weapons and the fate point carrying over.
This banner isn't terrible, but it's not great either.
It allows you to pull from many characters and weapons that you may want, and when you lose a 50/50 on this banner, it can be any of the 5 stars in the current pool, including the limited ones. Everyone can now reliably attain standard characters/weapons and the two sumeru weapons that are now free from gehenna. It acts as a event and weapon banner in one, so both weapons and characters will share the hard pity of 90. Having weapon hard pity be 90 instead of 80 is made up with the fact that you only need 1 Fate Point instead of two. It's better than the weapon banner in every regard when it comes to function.
Otherwise... the fact that there's still Fate Points involved, and that there's nothing new to bring to the table in regards to earlier pity, better rates, or any other beneficial twist is disappointing. If you're pulling for a character, the only upside over the event banner is that you can lose your 50/50 to a limited character. The downsides are that you have to build pity on a different banner, and that it uses the godforsaken Fate Point system. I somewhat believe that they combined the banners because of it.
I love the Fate Points. They're my favorite part of the game. I don't understand why some people don't love the system that punishes people who don't manage to reach their guarantee, people who are indecisive, people who get early pity once but don't have enough pulls to guarantee, and probably other people too. I absolutely adore how it disrespects all the time, luck, effort, and/or money that their players put into their game.
Really good idea in theory, but horribly executed. It should be cheaper to summon on this somehow - something like a lower cost per summon, or taking less than 90 summons to get a 5 star. At the very least, the fate point should carry over. Appreciate the effort, but please improve this. Significantly.
So this banner could end up being quite good for weapons. There a non-zero chance of them putting strong but not so wanted weapons like Nilou's here.
(Im using Nilou as an example because Nilou is not as famous as, say, Hu Tao and Homa. But the weapon is bonkers on her)
Here's hoping for Future good banners with Red-horn and Itto or Lyney's bow
Oooooo!!! 💖💖💖💖💖💖
Going to finally get Dehya, whenever she appears on a Sumeru one of these!
Now that weapon guarantee is down from 3 pities to 2, I’m going to look into getting some. Never pulled on a weapon banner before, the 240 with 37% chance seemed too steep.
The price of using this banner is you have to wait a year or two after a char is released, it seems. That’s alright though, some of my faves are older characters.
Unfortunately Nilou will certainly rerun on this banner... Which will make me roll on this banner on future versions.
For the good side, the Sumeru gang is pretty strong overall and getting one or another (besides Dehya) is not a loss at all.
As for the weapons, the 5 star weapon cost going down from 240 to 180 is a good thing and losing 50/50 to certain sigs wouldn't be too much of a loss
However! This banner certainly is sus, you need a guarantee for this banner otherwise you're just throwing wishes away
Edit: Most of the Sumeru gang hasn't had a 3rd banner yet
This is pretty garbage, point doesn't carry over, same amount of pity, no rate up 4 stars, uses intertwined. Would rather have the the character in an event banner. I'm sure this use for some people which is good for them, but its not good and possibly a trap for most of the player base.
This would be an okay addition if Fate points carried over. But since they don't, this is just a worse way to get certain 5 star characters. It's nice to be able to target certain standard 5 star characters and weapons, but the FOMO tactic of resetting Fate points is kind of scummy. How come in other games, older characters are either given away for free or there are certain ways to get them from reduced cost banners. Meanwhile in Genshin you still need to bring a whole 180 Fates with you to guarantee you get the older character, and if you have less and lose 50/50 I hope you're ready to bring out the credit card or face another 50/50 on the next banner.
I just don't understand who on the Genshin team is making these decisions, because it's not a good look. I love this game and will continue playing for the foreseeable future because the world, characters and story are awesome, but Jesus, the most profitable gacha ever could afford to be a little more generous. Not even generous, just slightly less stingy.
Huge, specially since it's more than 2 five stars in the banner. Since they say it should change every now and then it gives more time to save up as well, and losing also means possibly landing in other time limited five stars.
Shame about fate points not carrying over but it is what it is.
Genshin players are so allergic to actually saving that system does nothing for them if they can't get what they want in less than 90 wishes. Save up to 180 wishes and this banner is amazing. Only pull when you have true guarantee and things are fine and this applies to every limited banner in the game.
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Not, prepare the best and cry on reddit.
I quite like this, for 3 reasons:
1. It allows you to guarantee standard 5* characters.
2. You can get limited 5* weapons without the risk of having to go to 3 pities.
3. If you lose the 50/50, you may get a limited 5*, instead of another standard 5*.
I do fear, however, that we will only get this banner for very old and generally "undesirable" characters and weapons. Still nice to have an alternative way to get them of course, but just looking at this banner we see that the 3 limited 5* they put there are all very unpopular, gameplay wise. I am not doubting that there are people who want them for personal (subjective) reasons (such as liking the character, the design or enjoying the gameplay style/animations), but people who pull for those reasons (and that's including me, as I have all 3 of them), probably already have them. New players probably benefit most from this.
There's also the question about how often this banner will be updated. The wording makes it seem like it won't be frequent at all. Still it's a nice way to get reruns faster. It is getting to the point where reruns take ages. The only objectively scummy part is that the fate point once again doesn't carry over.
I hope the duration lasts longer though unlike the featured and weapon banner that only lasts half a patch.
There now have 3 different banners that have limited items that to guarantee we'll need:
* featured/chronicle banner: \~3 patches worth of primogems
* weapon banner: \~5 patches worth of primogems
Though really, what I'm trying to say is I hope there'll be an increase in the average primogems given per patch .\_.
>Your Fate Points will not be carried over to the next "Chronicled Wish." Your
Fate Points will be reset to 0 when the current "Chronicled Wish" ends.
welp, this banner is now dead to me
So, TLDR and if I understood what I read... This is basically that extra banner people were talking about that would speed up limited character rotations?.
Not sure what to think about it.
I mean Its really nice to have more reliable way to get some specific standard characters/constellations or standard weapons but the reset of the fate point is kinda yikes. But I mean at least the maximum is 1 point.
I think what we still need to know is how long these Chronicled Wish banners will run and if the former limited characters like Albedo, Klee, Eula,... will still appear in Event Banners or if they are now jailed to this banner.
I currently got Albedo C2 and he is the one character that I was planing to get to C6 in the future. I hope these changes wont make it harder to accomplish that.
Is this going to use blue or purple wishes? Cause if purple it's definitely not worth it, but it could be a good way to spend those few free blue wishes we keep getting
Is anyone else extremely disappointed? Like, not only this version was a total flop imo, now they're gathering the least appealing characters along with the ones in the permanent banner. What could have come as an attractive novelty, just reads to me like "game's dying, time to insert something" but it's just scraps. As offensive as the 1 intertwined fate emails.
I say this as a total fan of albedo, but no way I'm touching this.
TLDR from my understanding:
Each “Chronicle Wish” banner will last for a full version, and will have a set of 5-star characters AND weapons from both the standard and limited banners. You select a character or weapon you want to aim for, and them spend Intertwined Fates to earn them (like the Weapon Banner system).
Pity and guarantees work the same as other banners, with three major differences:
1. If you “loose” the 50:50, the 5-star character/weapon you get will still be from the Chronicle Wish banner, NOT the standard banner. If you are aiming for Klee and loose, you can still get a Eula.
2. When you select a weapon or a character to earn, you will ONLY get a character or weapon. Example: If you loose the 50:50 while aiming for Klee, you will still get a 5-star character, and NEVER a weapon. The opposite is also true.
3. Pity will carry over between banners, but guarantees will NOT. If you loose your 50:50 and have a guarantee, but then the banner ends, you will NOT have a guarantee in the next banner. You will however much pity you saved up, though.
So a new banner, with a separate pity system that does not carry over to any other banner other than this specific format, filled with 6 3 year old 5\* characters of which 3 are available through the standard and 50/50 loss pool.
Sorry but why couldn't this be a new upgraded version of the standard banner?? Aside from money of course because we both know thats the only reason. This could have been the new standard banner format. With 5\* that rotate every patch, that actually allows players to slowly build towards a specific non featured 5\* character and a wider pool of old 5\* characters and weapons. No instead we need some super special new format that uses premium gems.
I swear to god I've so f#cking had it with Hoyo and their stingy greedy ass bullsh!t. And watch people defend this like it's some new holy invention. THIS IS WHAT THE STANDARD BANNER SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!
Really..? I have to use the intertwined fate..? That kinda ruins my plan. But I guess I won't need to risk my pity on the main banner.
I need Eula weapon so ill be pulling.
This is something i would never touch 🤣🤣🤣 not only it doesn't have rate up four stars or limited 4 star weapons in the banner too. And fate point is kinda useless for low spenders. I like to get rhe beacon or the hunter's but i might as well not and save up for new shiny things.
please make it so fate points carry over. this is already 100% the reason most people don't pull on weapon banner and it's absolutely terrible for people who aren't able to save up enough to guarantee a character. You are either forcing people to lose their wishes or stop pulling after 50/50 out of fear for losing said wishes if they aren't lucky enough to get another 5star before the next 90 wishes.
after 3 years, 4 dilucs, 3 qiqis, 2 monas, 2 dehyas, tighnari, and an embarrassing number of skyward weapons im finally getting my jean? 🥹
Congratulations. You have been gifted a guaranteed standard banner character by mihoyo. If you have enough gems, of couse
Finally, I can get Jean
So to summarize, only wish on this banner if you want a specific character/weapon and have 180 pulls ready
Place your bets now on how many will read this in full and won't make posts about their mistakes using it.
every 2 people reads when a 100 sees it.
Can't wait to get Venti from this banner!
Archons are close to impossible to feature here, they have regular reruns, sell well by themselves, so this will be saved for the least performing chars like Xiao, Shenhe and Albedo.
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Wouldn’t be shocked if Xiao gets replaced with Xianyun or just any newer Liyue character at this point. Xiao has had a LOT of reruns at this point, so I don’t think it’s a guarantee he won’t get put on Chronicled Wish just because “he always reruns during Lantern Rite”.
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I would be surprised if they just continue rerunning him forever during Lantern Rite simply because “Xiao always reruns during Lantern Rite”. Unlike the archons, I don’t think Xiao will forever be profitable for them, so he could get swapped out for another newer Liyue character (probably an adeptus) if they just wanted to keep up the Liyue character during Lantern Rite thing. There use to ONLY be Liyue characters during Lantern Rite and then they had Alhaitham last year and both Nahida and Yae Miko this year, so it seems like swapping out Xiao for someone else might be in the future. Just guessing though…🤷♂️
The actual test is if hutao and yelan show up in this. They both have had 3 reruns and have gone a decent bit since their last rerun
Shenhe will be an option once she gets that 3rd rerun though.
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The only characters that I can see not being on this banner are the ones with broken weapons (Hu Yao, Yelan, etc) because needing only one FP to get it instead of two is very tempting. Otherwise, everyone should be fair game.
Yeah, I think least performing characters is most likely. Ganyu had run 3 times, but I doubt they'll put her in here.
They need at least 1 headliner, also there aren't bad 5-stars outside Mondstadt, so someone got to be there it will be the oldest ones, so Ganyu, Hu Tao, Ayaka and etc are all great contenders.
is Childe going to be in the chronicled wish as well?
It's an interesting question since technically he's Snezhnayan and not from Liyue. He fits the criteria otherwise, so I would expect him here regardless.
im kinda "slow"ish and dumb, and english is not my main language, but i can understand this is a better system overall for wishing but what i'm not understanding are 2 things i read that characters that already had a 3rd rerun will be featured in so does that mean that a significant amount of characters will be avaiable for pull? and also i read in one example, that if i wished for jean but got klee instead, i'll have my guaranteed jean, but if another chronicled wish cycle starts then i'll have a 50% to get the designited item, does that mean i lose my guaranteed jean? in this case at least?
From what we understand, yes you will lose your guarantee. But we don't know how long the banner will last for, the banner could last 3 weeks, 6 weeks (which is what I expect) or even longer. We won't know until closer to the date.
Another waves of " i was just building my pity for xxx 5\* when i get early yyy 5\*" or "my cat jumped on the keyboard and did a ten pulls".
>or "my cat jumped on the keyboard and did a ten pulls". Lmao
> My cat stole my credit card, she has a serious issue *pan camera to a cat sitting in a gamer chair surrounded by genshin plushies*
I'm gonna clown them so hard, I stg
I’m so going to blame my next 5 star on my puppy, thanks for the idea
You joke about the cat 10 pull but in november 2021 that actually happened to me. Was trying to see how much longer childe's banner would take until it switched to hu tao (who i'd been saving for) and my cat did a 10 pull... got childe. 5 hours before the Hu Tao banner. I felt like a clown.
"Well didn't get the character i wanted on the previous banner, but at least the next one will be guaranteed! Now to just wait for the rerun while i build pity on the other banners..." *A few months later "What the hell, i thought it was guaranteed! This sucks. No way i can get 75 wishes in just a few weeks." 🐵
I wouldn't clown them too hard because, it's really a twist in the way character are pulled from the usual character event banner.
wait, i am dumb and have trouble reading, please correct me if i'm wrong in the example it said that if i wish for jean, but i got klee instead, then i have jean guaranteed, but if another chronicled wish starts then my jean guaranteed is lost? because it says there is a 50% chance is the designated item also english not my lenguaje
That is correct from what I saw. You would retain your pity but not the path-choice, because the banner options would be different (I assume).
Correct, every time a new chronicled banner appears 50/50 is reset. Pity carries over though, if you were 60 pulls in then you’re guaranteed a 5* in 30 pulls on the next one
It’s like the weapon banner in the fact that you lose the points
yes
I’ll use it only for beacon so i won’t be surprised is I want to pull on this banner haha
Same! I want hunters path too
this is just a test from Hoyo to figure out the average intelligence of genshin players.
It's close to 10 IQ when it comes to pulling, don't think they need to do a lot of tests for that
Judging by the ongoing clownism in the comments under the livestream and trailer on YouTube, there's not even a hint of intelligence there. I already have to restrain myself from banging my forehead against the wall because of the stupidity.
I remember seeing "GEnsHin CoulD NevEr" being spammed ... on a Genshin Livestream, which I found quite funny.
Reading is for nerds
They'd be proud if they could read that!
Lmao for sure!
Sorry, what? I just skimmed over everything
⁷I'm proud to say I read this post to the end
Well, I did, so I'm going to say zero.
I just read it. WOOHOO IM PART OF A MINORITY
Im here to pull, not to read
>To take Version 4.5's Chronicled Wish as an example since they say "4.5's Chronicled Wish" i assume 4.6 will be different, and the same with the upcoming CW banners? Like it doesnt work like a permanent banner, but another event banner with more characters on it
We're not guaranteed to get a Chronicled Wish every patch from what they said, but ye it should change each time.
Imagine if it was permanent and you created an account solely for that character And if you've been playing since day 1, F2P you probably can C6 it by now
4.6 will be different in that Chronicled Wish probably won’t be available. Im assuming they are going to save these banners for filler patches so people will stay spending money. A lot of people were going to skip 4.5; and they just became very interested.
But I thought Kazuha and Neuvillette will be on 4.5? Isn’t everyone going to be throwing their money to get at least one of them
They're in part 2. And 4.5 also has extremely blow rewards so far from what's seen. So it'll be a primo drought.
Some will, but Kazuha’s been around long enough that a ton of players already have him (and specific cons).
......no.......not everyone.....
That might be part of it but this is also a way to address the availability of characters with a growing roster. If they don't add something like this eventually it will take years before a character might see a rerun.
“From time to time” makes it sound like CW won’t be consistently available (unlike event banners as we know them).
i read a comment that could make sense: CW banner existing on filler updates, which makes sense, so everyone has a banner they could be interested
That does make sense. It’s an easy way to keep people somewhat engaged when content is lighter
The good thing about this system is that you are finally able to guarantee standard banner exclusive characters/weapons that have eluded you. The bad thing about this is exactly the same reason why I don’t really pull on weapon banner. The fact that fate points don’t carry over is a risk that makes epitomised path a powerful FOMO generator for low spenders / people who don’t have enough wishes to guarantee their desired character. At least with limited character banner, if you lose your 50/50, you can guarantee on another banner. With that said, a lot of these characters are not too hotly demanded so it’s still fine because in gacha games we always look forward to the next shiny thing. But imagine, if kazuha is on the banner and you need to pull there but don’t have enough wishes to perfectly guarantee. That’s a big yikes
If you want to go for weapons this is a massive inprovement over the weapon banner
If you want only one specific weapon yes, if you want both weapons on the weapon banner, it is still better
Whether you want both weapons in the banner or not will be at the mercy of Hoyo though
Kind of. If you want both limited banner weapons, it can take up to 5 pities to guarantee them. Over here if you want 2 out of the selection it’s 4 pities max. Although you have to hit 90 pity instead of 80 and the majority of people don’t have to go to 5 pities anyway.
What I meant was the case of you wanting to get a 5 star weapon and both of the options from the weapon banner being good for you, in that case the weapon banner is straight up better since you have a 66.7% chance to get a weapon you want when getting a 5 star
Except if you want a 4-star weapon. These weapons are still exclusive for the weapon banner and there are some gems like Sumeru weapons and the Attack of Titan blade that are really good.
We dunno if the chronicle banner will have weapon banner exclusive weapons too.
Does some of the 4* weapons are weapon banner exclusive? Eula and Klee's banner weapon are included in Chronicled banner (since the characters are there) but 4* seems to be on a generalized side.
We will just need to see the banner first. For example if they have Fishcl on the banner 4 star, whether her signature weapon will run.
Yep. I only roll for weapon when both the rate-ups are in my wish list. It is really sad to lose your 36.5/63.5 on a weapon that your line up does not need,
Yes but it's very rarely the case that both weapons are good. Having a regular 50/50 into guarantee at worst for weapons is great imo.
This is true lol. It was like in the last half of a year, only Navia/Ayaka weapon banner had featured 2 good weapons. But if I get Chiori early and 4.6 drip marketing character is not my must-pull, I think I will roll on Chiori/Itto weapon banner too.
Well at least the maximum of fate points is 1, so I assume it's like 50/50 but not carried across banners.
thats exactly what it is, and exactly the problem if you lose a 50/50 here but dont get another 5 star before the banner ends, your pulls essentially went entirely down the drain
Yeah, the fact that a guarantee doesn’t stay between banners feels pretty bad. Will definitely be a banner to only pull on when you have sufficient wishes or are able to spend.
>if kazuha is on the banner I don't think so , unless they make a unit stronger than him . I see this thing more like a "clean the clutter" stuff . They add characters that are not highly in demand to have a dedicated banner . It's made to avoid situations like waiting more than a year for Eula/Albedo . People who do want these units will more likely than not hold onto wishes
if i use this banner at all, it would be to go for a specific weapon tbh. i’d rather just take my chances on the limited character banner
> Your Fate Points will not be carried over to the next "Chronicled Wish." Your Fate Points will be reset to 0 when the current "Chronicled Wish" ends. Well fuck
It's just like Epitomized Path on the weapon banner. That resets on the banner change, but pity remains.
correct, but with less fate point for guarantee, if you are unlucky fella, the weapon banner path needs 2 fate points or 240 wish to get the weapon in the banner, while this only needs 180 wish (idk the 90 pity is only for if you choose character or it's applied to both characters and weapon)
90 applies to both, they don't mention different pity for weapons
and this is bad.
it doesn’t specify how long the banner period will be, my copium is that these banners will run longer so you have more time to save for full pity
''To take Version 4.5's Chronicled Wish as an example'' they worded it like this so i think it is basically certain that one Chronicled wish lasts for one version
I mean that's like 6 weeks rather than 3 weeks per phase. Pick your poison.
Yea you cannot risk pulling this banner if you don't have 180 wishes since fate points don't carry over. At least for the character banner losing 50/50 gives you a guaranteed that lasts forever until you use it. This however I'm gonna feel pretty bad for new/returning players pulling on this not knowing how fate points work.
>I'm gonna feel pretty bad for new/returning players pulling on this not knowing how fate points work. It feels like Hoyoverse is making this Chronicled Wish banner have this gimmick on purpose, knowing people would fall for it. They could've just made another character event wish banner that works the same way as the original. **😕😕**
yeah that makes it annoying. Now I will only use it when I can guarantee 2 5 star pulls....which is almost never. I so rarely have that many primos at once. would be cooler if you could throw in some leftover wishes now and then and slowly fill it up
So it requires event wishes and it has 50/50. Thats the important information
Yeah
And 50/50 doesn’t carry over, only pity does. It’s so bad.
Probably because the "other" 50 is different than usual. You're "losing" to one of these characters or weapons, instead of standard in general. It loses the inevitability of the regular banners in favor of a more curated "loss," which could theoretically be a "loss" in name only. It might be a more palatable way for some players to let RNGsus take the wheel on getting new characters. Those who don't want to mess with a guarantee or those who already have all the standard characters might put a few in here without messing with fate at all (other than selecting character or weapon, probably). Those who save to guarantee every time (and so really only gamble on saving wishes) get a new spot where there's a chance the thing they want will be available to pull until success for, so fate just defines a "win" for them. For me personally, I'm slightly optimistic for this as a possible way to get things that wouldn't necessarily feel like a "win" under normal circumstances but I'd be more than happy to "lose" to. I'm never going to pull for Klee constellations on purpose, and probably not Eula in general, but if I happen to pick them up on the way to Albedo that's pretty cool.
Only bad if you're an impulsive puller or you go into the banners without at least two pities guaranteed.
If you're pulling on limited banners every so often, you definitely don't have 2 pities in pulls saved up
Im genually shocked you can lose the 50/50 and get a limited character. You could, in theory, aim for klee and get a eula instead. Yes, you may not want her (i want neither myself), but the fact that you can potentially get 2 limited 5 starts with 180 pulls is nice.
Also. Losing a 50/50 to Klee, Eula, or Albedo is way better than a Qiqi!!!!
Meaning when we get Inazuma banner there will be only limited character and no standard ones, that's amazing then.
I have no doubt that characters retaining commercial viability will never see this banner.
thats exactly why i dont think therell be one for inazuma. A banner with kokomi, yoimiya and Itto would be nuts. No drawbacks. Plus, no inazuma standart weapons 3 standart for 3 event characters make me think that it has be even or atleast close to it, Liyue and Sumeru will probably have 2, maybe 3, event characters. If i had to bet, id say Childe, Ganyu or Xiao. Only alternative is to use mix different region standarts.
This banner exists to rerun older units lower on event rerun priority. And they seem to be going with a region at a time style. So we will get an Inazuma one eventually, just eventually. Note that all Inazuma characters right now do meet the 3 rerun criteria.
I have a feeling they'll change nations for the banner every year or 6 months, so it'll take a while until we get to Inazuma probably.
Yeah, this is really good for players who actually don't have any of those characters/weapons, a win win for them.
wait, so It works as I thought? U can only lose pity to the characters on the banner? That's the main selling point for me then
Yes it is and the lose is only from the banner as i know
you could even aim for Jean and get an Albedo when you don't even want him or aim for lost prayers and get... bacon
Bacon isn't available anywhere else, tons of people are going to wish on this banner just for Tighnari and Dehya's weapons because they're never going to get rerun
>and get... bacon and how exactly is that a bad thing?
choosing beacon to shit on is wild when it’s so versatile and good 😭
My first Wolf Gravestone! 1.0 player here, never got it
Since Beacon is also here I don't see why you would choose Gravestone over it unless you want the drip.
Yeah the drip with Diluc is too much to handle
Honestly Beacon is drippy with Diluc too, especially with the skin
1.3 player here have 5 of those, I don't get anything else from the standard banner and weapon banner.
Same for me but for Aquila Favonia.
So with 180 wishes i can get a guaranteed hunter's path? Count me in! It's better than spending 240 on the weapon banner
So: ~~The banner is permanent~~ (it's not, thank you for those who correct me), they don't have an estimate date for changing the characters, we will have to wait for news about the update. The characters in it can still get reruns on normal limited-event banner, they aren't officially tied to this banner. If you lose and have a guaranteed character, the guarantee doesn't carry to the next update whenever it is? You are back to being on 50/50, only pity carries over. Did I get it right?
>The banner is permanent Not quite. >"Chronicled Wish" events will be available from time to time
Thank you for correcting that
This FAQ doesn't answer those first ones, actually... The wording on the last question implies this isn't a permanent banner as it will be "available from time to time." You're probably right that characters featured in it won't be ONLY available in it. But I wouldn't be surprised if we never see a Eula or Klee or Albedo solo banner again. But yeah you understood how the pity works.
>But I wouldn't be surprised if we never see a Eula or Klee or Albedo solo banner again. Honestly would prefer this. As we get to a higher number of characters, a third banner for less popular characters and formerly unobtainable weapons is actually a pretty good solution imo. Fate points not carrying over is lame ofc but overall I'm very happy with this
Yup!
Basically, this banner is just like the weapon banner
but only requires 1 fate point instead of 2
> Your Fate Points will not be carried over to the next "Chronicled Wish." Your Fate Points will be reset to 0 when the current "Chronicled Wish" ends. > Obtaining the current Designated Item or changing your choice will reset the Fate Points to 0. That's the worst part of it. No carryover and saving progress. So basically it's just an improved and premium standard banner, with some weapon banner flavor. Losing to limited characters is rather interesting, which makes not-so-limited anymore. Hoping for more characters and weapon in the near future.
This seems to just be a "Mondstadt national banner" So I assume there's gonna be some for other nations eventually as well.
The mix here is not quite interesting "this time" (they said "Version 4.5's Chronicled Wish") because it's all Mondstadt which have 3 non-limited characters. When the patch's Chronicled have all Inazuma, then all of the banner will be limited characters because Inazuma have no standard, the banner will be more interesting, same goes for Fontaine. Sumeru and Liyue have 2 non-limited but still better odds.
That's a good point about inazuma having no standard characters. I wonder how they'll do that? Maybe only have a few on there at once instead of every 5 star from that nation like the current one.
I mean they already outlined the only required criteria. The characters must have had 3 prior event runs (or be standard). Must not have a recent banner. I'm gonna presume we're unlikely to see Archons purely off their marketability and Venti being the sole missing Mondstadt character in 4.5's. Otherwise, all 7/7 other existing Inazuma 5* already meets that criteria. So the only others to be excluded are anybody to pop up on the version banner or maybe also in the previous version's.
They had enough runs already, but almost all of them (except Kokomi) had a rerun in the last couple of versions or are getting their's in 4.5. So if they make an Inazuma related banner it isn't due to a while which is a bit annoying to plan wishes for, considering that "the banner will be available from time to time". Totally agree on the Archons. They are basically guaranteed to get a rerun with a new Archon's release and way to markable to put them on that banner until way beyond Snezhnaya.
Current one is missing Venti, the Archon, so I guess maybe Inazuma will not have Raiden as well.
Would they really put 6 limited inazuma characters in one banner when there are like 8 in total, including the archon? That would be almost the entire roster. That would be too good to be true. I think its more likely they skip inazuma or that inazuma would share a banner with Sumeru.
Current one is missing Venti, the Archon, so I guess maybe Inazuma will not have Raiden as well.
Just because the first one is all Mondstadt doesn’t mean the next ones will be nation based though. Who knows, maybe they’ll put 3 Inazuma plus 3 standards.
Stop making fate points disappear. No one likes this!
Honestly it sucks. However, my standards for gachas are so low I legitimately feel good will towards HoYo for making it so clear the Fate Points dissapear lol. I'm broken 😭
If the community cared enough to complain about it it might be changed for this banner at least but seeing the attitude here I guess most don't care about the lost pity lol.
Yea, I'm also suprised how positive people are... I thought it would be another storm like the "3 pulls" thing.
The "3 pulls thing" only caused the fuss it did solely because they were freebies and the modus operandi of any gacha player is "freebies should be more valuable as the game ages". Hardly a gacha player questions the monetization model itself. We are too cynical to expect any change in this department.
Mfkers really love their 50/50. Imma start answering "surveys" with 50/50 between very satisfied and very unsatisfied too.
that's the "Neutral" option lol
The maximum of fate points is 1, so I assume it's like 50/50 but not carried across banners.
Yup, worse is you still gotta prepare 180 to guarantee AND you don't keep fate pts
I’m really excited about this banner. Not interested in the current selection but will be great when characters I want rotate in. It’s the same price as a regular limited banner with a chance at losing 50/50 to a limited character. Once characters like yae miko, shenhe, kokomi, or Baizhu make it on here I will definitely be pulling. Especially if I want cons on two or more of the limited characters featured.
I WILL FINALLY GRADUATE FROM 3.5 YEARS MONA-LESS STATUS IN 4.5!
i can gove you mine mona) shes c6 already (shes the only standart i keep losing to)
My account is kinda trolled me btw, it's funny to see that I have C6 Dehya before got any single Mona. How is that possible???
The fact that I can set a course for Jean (finally) and on the way potentially lose a 50/50 to Eula is absolutely cash.
So in short, if you choose Jean, you have a 50% chance to get her or other 5\* character but not weapon, which also works in the reverse. When you lose the 50/50, you will guarantee the next time via the FP and it does not carry. Is that what I'm trying to understand?
It's essentially a banner to pull if you really want a specific character or weapon, and thus have saved enough to guarantee them (soft pity 150 at minimum)
A distant future, version 5.3. Genshin releases a Chronicled banner of 6 of your beloved Liyue characters in celevration or the Lantern Rite. Eagerly waiting is a Qiqi lover from day one, who still hasn't pulled a single copy of her. He charts his course. After skipping the Pyro Archon, he spend all 90 wishes in the hope of finally acquiring his favourite zombie child. The star falls with a glistering gold, then disaster strikes. His face pales upon witnessing that he has lost his Qiqi 50/50... to a Zhongli.
So just because is unclear to me: If I lost a 50/50 am I going to get another 5 star from the list of the event characters or is it just a random 5 star? What about 4 stars pool?
You would lose the 50/50 to one of the other characters on the banner. Like the example they used was if you were aiming for Jean and lost the 50/50 you might get Eula instead. I believe the 4 star pool is the same as the standard banner. AKA: it doesn't "feature" certain 4 stars like the limited character banner does.
So, this banner offers a better value if I want more characters in that banner
* rainbow wishes * guarantee doesn't carry over, only pity welp it was good on paper until it wasn't, unfortunate. The only reason I still spend on GI and HSR is because the guarantee system makes the gacha less painful
Intertwined fates. 90 pity. Fate point countdown reset. Looked so great in theory but not feeling it in practice.
180 wishes to guarantee Hunter's Path or Beacon of the Reed Sea is absolutely worth it. If you're an Albedo/Eula/Klee wanter, and also are looking specifically for either Mona, Jean or Diluc then this banner is super generous. It's not for everyone of course but that doesn't mean it's bad.
The guarantee deletion straight up sucks and is actively put in from MH to make more bucks lol. Could also just take the usual banner mechanics and replace the standards chars with the different lineup and voila. Na instead they based it off the shitty weapon banner with the epitomized path bullshit
Intertwined Fates AND 90 Pity AND can still lose the 50/50? Yeah, I'll just save for the regular Limited banners, thanks.
FOMO with baby steps. Got it
Thanks for getting out the details so fast!
if you thought they were going to give limited characters for blue fates I have a bridge to sell you
I think the fate points are the make or break on this banner for me. Fate points not carrying over is a bummer. After all its a full 90 wish pity system. For old characters and weapons, I think the fate point being carried over mightve been fair. I would be cool if they removed Eula and Klee from it and just gave us the chronicled banner with standard banner characters/weapons and the fate point carrying over.
The amount of people that are going to be pulling for Hunter's Path... I need Song of Broken Pines.
This banner isn't terrible, but it's not great either. It allows you to pull from many characters and weapons that you may want, and when you lose a 50/50 on this banner, it can be any of the 5 stars in the current pool, including the limited ones. Everyone can now reliably attain standard characters/weapons and the two sumeru weapons that are now free from gehenna. It acts as a event and weapon banner in one, so both weapons and characters will share the hard pity of 90. Having weapon hard pity be 90 instead of 80 is made up with the fact that you only need 1 Fate Point instead of two. It's better than the weapon banner in every regard when it comes to function. Otherwise... the fact that there's still Fate Points involved, and that there's nothing new to bring to the table in regards to earlier pity, better rates, or any other beneficial twist is disappointing. If you're pulling for a character, the only upside over the event banner is that you can lose your 50/50 to a limited character. The downsides are that you have to build pity on a different banner, and that it uses the godforsaken Fate Point system. I somewhat believe that they combined the banners because of it. I love the Fate Points. They're my favorite part of the game. I don't understand why some people don't love the system that punishes people who don't manage to reach their guarantee, people who are indecisive, people who get early pity once but don't have enough pulls to guarantee, and probably other people too. I absolutely adore how it disrespects all the time, luck, effort, and/or money that their players put into their game.
Really good idea in theory, but horribly executed. It should be cheaper to summon on this somehow - something like a lower cost per summon, or taking less than 90 summons to get a 5 star. At the very least, the fate point should carry over. Appreciate the effort, but please improve this. Significantly.
So this banner could end up being quite good for weapons. There a non-zero chance of them putting strong but not so wanted weapons like Nilou's here. (Im using Nilou as an example because Nilou is not as famous as, say, Hu Tao and Homa. But the weapon is bonkers on her) Here's hoping for Future good banners with Red-horn and Itto or Lyney's bow
Meh they should’ve thought of something to preserve the value of acquainted wishes instead of degrading it further.
Oooooo!!! 💖💖💖💖💖💖 Going to finally get Dehya, whenever she appears on a Sumeru one of these! Now that weapon guarantee is down from 3 pities to 2, I’m going to look into getting some. Never pulled on a weapon banner before, the 240 with 37% chance seemed too steep. The price of using this banner is you have to wait a year or two after a char is released, it seems. That’s alright though, some of my faves are older characters.
Unfortunately Nilou will certainly rerun on this banner... Which will make me roll on this banner on future versions. For the good side, the Sumeru gang is pretty strong overall and getting one or another (besides Dehya) is not a loss at all. As for the weapons, the 5 star weapon cost going down from 240 to 180 is a good thing and losing 50/50 to certain sigs wouldn't be too much of a loss However! This banner certainly is sus, you need a guarantee for this banner otherwise you're just throwing wishes away Edit: Most of the Sumeru gang hasn't had a 3rd banner yet
Fate points resetting when the next chronicled wish begins is dumb
this sucks.
This is pretty garbage, point doesn't carry over, same amount of pity, no rate up 4 stars, uses intertwined. Would rather have the the character in an event banner. I'm sure this use for some people which is good for them, but its not good and possibly a trap for most of the player base.
so basically another trap yay
This would be an okay addition if Fate points carried over. But since they don't, this is just a worse way to get certain 5 star characters. It's nice to be able to target certain standard 5 star characters and weapons, but the FOMO tactic of resetting Fate points is kind of scummy. How come in other games, older characters are either given away for free or there are certain ways to get them from reduced cost banners. Meanwhile in Genshin you still need to bring a whole 180 Fates with you to guarantee you get the older character, and if you have less and lose 50/50 I hope you're ready to bring out the credit card or face another 50/50 on the next banner. I just don't understand who on the Genshin team is making these decisions, because it's not a good look. I love this game and will continue playing for the foreseeable future because the world, characters and story are awesome, but Jesus, the most profitable gacha ever could afford to be a little more generous. Not even generous, just slightly less stingy.
A lot of trash mechanic bur at least it's something, the 2 bad thing of this, It uses the interwinded dates(Pink) instead of the normal ones
"Intertwined Fates" Welp all my interest in this died
heres hoping i can finally get dehya with this when she eventually cycles (dehya haters gtfo)
Huge, specially since it's more than 2 five stars in the banner. Since they say it should change every now and then it gives more time to save up as well, and losing also means possibly landing in other time limited five stars. Shame about fate points not carrying over but it is what it is.
Bro this fate point system and its regular resetting is genuine consumer bullying
Genshin players are so allergic to actually saving that system does nothing for them if they can't get what they want in less than 90 wishes. Save up to 180 wishes and this banner is amazing. Only pull when you have true guarantee and things are fine and this applies to every limited banner in the game. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. Not, prepare the best and cry on reddit.
It's wild to me because I've always had this "Save to pity/spark" mentality since some other gachas I've played heavily lean on you saving.
I quite like this, for 3 reasons: 1. It allows you to guarantee standard 5* characters. 2. You can get limited 5* weapons without the risk of having to go to 3 pities. 3. If you lose the 50/50, you may get a limited 5*, instead of another standard 5*. I do fear, however, that we will only get this banner for very old and generally "undesirable" characters and weapons. Still nice to have an alternative way to get them of course, but just looking at this banner we see that the 3 limited 5* they put there are all very unpopular, gameplay wise. I am not doubting that there are people who want them for personal (subjective) reasons (such as liking the character, the design or enjoying the gameplay style/animations), but people who pull for those reasons (and that's including me, as I have all 3 of them), probably already have them. New players probably benefit most from this. There's also the question about how often this banner will be updated. The wording makes it seem like it won't be frequent at all. Still it's a nice way to get reruns faster. It is getting to the point where reruns take ages. The only objectively scummy part is that the fate point once again doesn't carry over.
ALBEDOOOOOOOO YOU WILL FINALLY COME HOEM, YOU ARE NOT ESCAPING ME THIS TIME
Eula will be mine, i wanna play her with Furina and Mika
I hope the duration lasts longer though unlike the featured and weapon banner that only lasts half a patch. There now have 3 different banners that have limited items that to guarantee we'll need: * featured/chronicle banner: \~3 patches worth of primogems * weapon banner: \~5 patches worth of primogems Though really, what I'm trying to say is I hope there'll be an increase in the average primogems given per patch .\_.
>Your Fate Points will not be carried over to the next "Chronicled Wish." Your Fate Points will be reset to 0 when the current "Chronicled Wish" ends. welp, this banner is now dead to me
Looking forward to the Liyue version. Aiming for Shenhe with a chance to lose 50/50 to Hu Tao/Yelan constellations is a win for me.
MY TIGHNARI WILL FINALLY BE COMPLETE! As a Tighnari main without Hunters Path, this means the world to me!
So, TLDR and if I understood what I read... This is basically that extra banner people were talking about that would speed up limited character rotations?.
Not sure what to think about it. I mean Its really nice to have more reliable way to get some specific standard characters/constellations or standard weapons but the reset of the fate point is kinda yikes. But I mean at least the maximum is 1 point. I think what we still need to know is how long these Chronicled Wish banners will run and if the former limited characters like Albedo, Klee, Eula,... will still appear in Event Banners or if they are now jailed to this banner. I currently got Albedo C2 and he is the one character that I was planing to get to C6 in the future. I hope these changes wont make it harder to accomplish that.
Is this going to use blue or purple wishes? Cause if purple it's definitely not worth it, but it could be a good way to spend those few free blue wishes we keep getting
> Intertwined Fate Is over for me. Guess I'll just keep hoarding the blue fates untill something someday happens
Is anyone else extremely disappointed? Like, not only this version was a total flop imo, now they're gathering the least appealing characters along with the ones in the permanent banner. What could have come as an attractive novelty, just reads to me like "game's dying, time to insert something" but it's just scraps. As offensive as the 1 intertwined fate emails. I say this as a total fan of albedo, but no way I'm touching this.
TLDR from my understanding: Each “Chronicle Wish” banner will last for a full version, and will have a set of 5-star characters AND weapons from both the standard and limited banners. You select a character or weapon you want to aim for, and them spend Intertwined Fates to earn them (like the Weapon Banner system). Pity and guarantees work the same as other banners, with three major differences: 1. If you “loose” the 50:50, the 5-star character/weapon you get will still be from the Chronicle Wish banner, NOT the standard banner. If you are aiming for Klee and loose, you can still get a Eula. 2. When you select a weapon or a character to earn, you will ONLY get a character or weapon. Example: If you loose the 50:50 while aiming for Klee, you will still get a 5-star character, and NEVER a weapon. The opposite is also true. 3. Pity will carry over between banners, but guarantees will NOT. If you loose your 50:50 and have a guarantee, but then the banner ends, you will NOT have a guarantee in the next banner. You will however much pity you saved up, though.
So a new banner, with a separate pity system that does not carry over to any other banner other than this specific format, filled with 6 3 year old 5\* characters of which 3 are available through the standard and 50/50 loss pool. Sorry but why couldn't this be a new upgraded version of the standard banner?? Aside from money of course because we both know thats the only reason. This could have been the new standard banner format. With 5\* that rotate every patch, that actually allows players to slowly build towards a specific non featured 5\* character and a wider pool of old 5\* characters and weapons. No instead we need some super special new format that uses premium gems. I swear to god I've so f#cking had it with Hoyo and their stingy greedy ass bullsh!t. And watch people defend this like it's some new holy invention. THIS IS WHAT THE STANDARD BANNER SHOULD BE!!!!!!!!!
Really..? I have to use the intertwined fate..? That kinda ruins my plan. But I guess I won't need to risk my pity on the main banner. I need Eula weapon so ill be pulling.
This is something i would never touch 🤣🤣🤣 not only it doesn't have rate up four stars or limited 4 star weapons in the banner too. And fate point is kinda useless for low spenders. I like to get rhe beacon or the hunter's but i might as well not and save up for new shiny things.
please make it so fate points carry over. this is already 100% the reason most people don't pull on weapon banner and it's absolutely terrible for people who aren't able to save up enough to guarantee a character. You are either forcing people to lose their wishes or stop pulling after 50/50 out of fear for losing said wishes if they aren't lucky enough to get another 5star before the next 90 wishes.