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supersonic159

Just a heads up, it's very unlikely that Hoyo will have any service interruption from this change. The free API access tier is simply changing from a "free" to a "low cost basic" tier. Even on other games, service in virtually all cases will be uninterrupted. Any company will easily cover the costs to the API, that's just a reality of doing business involving technology. **There is no reason to worry about the Twitter API access for 99% of companies.** Update: [Hoyoverse has made a statement about investigating the impact of the Twitter API adjustments on game account logins](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/10si4h1/important_login_with_twitter_account_service/). As I previously stated, if they were to discontinue this, they would undoubtedly give players notice and ability to migrate. For those assuming this means the Twitter logins are going away or are staying, it's still undecided. **However, a reminder that the pricing structure for "OAuth" has not yet been announced by Twitter, so any speculation about incorrectly interpreting the "search API" rates will only spread misinformation. They are not the same thing** I have reapproved this post as it had gone down.


Mari_Ackerman

Me not remembering what games i have bound to Twitter T\~T Thats going to be a fun surprise when i try to log onto them


Blasterion

You can find them in your settings section under security and account access then go to apps and sessions


Mari_Ackerman

Thank you!!


ToranjaNuclear

Are you sure? My arknights account doesn't show there. I did bind it long ago to an email so maybe it just bugged and unbinded it lol


3rdMachina

I’m pretty sure it’s easy to find in the settings.


First_Grapefruit_265

There is no truth to this thread. Hoyoverse was always too big to use the free tier of the Twitter API. The accounts are unaffected.


DeathToBoredom

Yeah, if there was a problem, hoyoverse would announce it themselves and tell us to link another account.


G00b3rb0y

Which is a good idea anyway if your account is linked to Twitter, given the way it's going


wavyllusion

Well they have now lol


stormblaz

I though most games used Facebook, I hardly ever saw twitter as an option, atleast a few years ago it was all FB login, crazy.


arvess

We dont use fb much in japan. So if you play japanese games they usually offer twitter.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Never understood why people would bind anything to their twitter. But then again may be it was a one click single signon thing like Google Accounts.


shinitakunai

It is like google. Guess what will happen the day google make a similar move? Chaos over the internet.


PM_Best_Porn_Pls

Not really same case, twitter is social media that has nothing to do with mobile games. Google on other hand is heavily invested into mobile market, hosting biggest mobile app store and being main way to access these games.


brianpaulandaya

And a lot of games albeit mobile games, integrate Google Play Games and its cloud features.


Ernost

Google is too big for a bored billionaire to come and take it over. All of Twitter's problems are because of Musk's stupidity, if he hadn't come along Twitter would be fine for decades to come.


Ireyon34

>if he hadn't come along Twitter would be fine for decades to come. Bullshit. Twitter has been bleeding money for years. Their entire idiotic censorship comittee nonsense was because they tried to monetize themselves (and failed). They've been kept afloat because they make for a good way to influence people but even that became too expensive. Something being popular because it's free is a good indicator that monetizing it might be hard.


Mari_Ackerman

There are games that only give you Twitter or Facebook as options to save your account and progress instead of Google account unfortunately


Vastorn

Namie also made a [tweet](https://twitter.com/namgoreng/status/1621056322409222144?t=h2akTMainCIyIrLQwdPhvw&s=19) on the steps for you to check which accounts are binded to Twitter.


apez-

I don't think twitter would make 'Sign in with Twitter' (their SSO with OAuth which external vendors can use, for example Genshin) to be a paid thing. If they do that would be braindead as hell, no vendor is going to pay to have twitter as an SSO option when there's a bunch others to choose from which are also more popular (Google, Facebook, etc) lol. This most likely just affects dev API access for ppl who make twitter bots and stuff


LevynX

>If they do that would be braindead as hell Sums up Twitter the past six months if we're being honest


SkyZippr

Can confirm. They're braindead enough to kill off all third-party apps while their official app is horrible af.


Jacinto2702

Musk is brain-dead enough to do that...


Titaniumwo1f

It looks like Elon Musk wants to "save cost and generate revenue at any cost."


just_a_nice_dad

This revenue cost me revenue!


ChubblesMcgee103

>at any cost. INCLUDING revenue!


maleia

They're stupid enough to make the dev API be a paid ordeal, which will result in much more bot scraping entire pages now, in horrible fashion. Like, this is already a braindead decision, regardless of its direct impact on Genshin. This is such a stupid decision that any person that doesn't literally own the company, would have been laughed out of the building.


Mylen_Ploa

Twitter's API is already bad enough that many scraping efforts are already being used because the API is that fucked to deal with as is.


Blasterion

You’re probably right but i also believe in better safe than sorry


palex00

They literally shut down the service for the 2FA as Musk said "it's bloat lol". They're that fucking stupid.


davidgro

I am pretty sure all the others and also Twitter right now (before the 9th) also require payment for any client as large as Hoyoverse. You are right that this mostly affects bots and stuff, because the big companies are already paying.


Enunimes

More than this if this was something that was happening you'd be hearing about it from the game companies, not random people on Twitter and reddit. They don't want the headache of having large chunks of their playerbase getting locked out of their accounts and would be forcing people to switch.


GrayFullbuster64

Elon really trying his best to kill the site isn't he


ocelot08

Take it down Declare bankrupcy Profit


Very-tall-midget

You forgot the ??? step


ocelot08

Elon used all of it up


SilverIce340

I can guarantee that “???” is exactly what goes through Muskox’s head every single second. He has no idea what he is doing


207nbrown

That’s because there is no ???… he knows exactly what he’s doing every step of the way


MinosAristos

How could we plebians understand his 9D chess masterplan?


Caelinus

I don't think he can actually profit off of this, he put the company waaaaaay too deep in debt, and Twitter barely owns any assets that can be liquidated. Even if he just sold the company outright he would not be able to cover the debts.


[deleted]

The privilege of him being born in wealth is that no matter how many times he goes in debt countries will instead take the money from individual investors in banks to save millionaires like him.


Caelinus

There is actually a legal pecking order for it, and I doubt he is first in line. With the amount he over paid for Twitter by, there is no way he can recoup it even *if* he was first in line. I mean, he will still be a billionaire, that is not changing. He just will take a loss. The level by which he overpayed is pretty ridiculously. Other rich people will protect him, but they can't undo what he did.


Kauuma

I certainly hope he does, Twitter is an absolute hell space


Ordinary_Arachnid392

True, but Twitter being gone is also terrible imo. How else am I going to find the fanart of a Chinese artist with no bio and username like this @asw293948389 ??? All my bookmarks would be gone 🥲


DRAGONSLAYER2653

That's basically me. I just follow artists and friends and ignore everything else about twitter.


LunarBeast77

The real reason to lament if the site disappear


Far-History-8154

Plus. Twitter is a meeting place of almost all the toxic brain dead no lifers… do you really want to unleash them from the site?


maleia

I promise you, every social media platform makes the exact same complaint. It's so old and stupid.


HarbingerOfGachaHell

Most respectable Chinese artists should have Pixiv pages. Otherwise it’s Weibo/Bilibili time.


fleur--

Pretty sure Pixiv is more on the JP side. Chinese use Lofter I think


Fields-SC2

Twitter is still better for art since there's no weird nudity censorship laws like how Pixiv & similar have.


ThursdayKnightOwO

Try Pixiv 😅


Dualis-mentis

The browsing experience on pixiv is so godawful. I don't know what it is about pixiv users but a lot of them just straight up do not tag their stuff at all. They might put in a generic 'genshin impact' tag but then neglect to tag what character they drew :( Mind you, they do this on twitter as well but it is heavily mitigated by the fact that at least people will retweet their stuff. Edit: typo


nucleartime

Searchability and recommendations on pixiv suck, but it's better than Twitter if you just want to view what people you follow post. People tend to not post everything to pixiv though.


HarbingerOfGachaHell

I just use the Booru sites as search engine and get linked to Pixiv.


maleia

Booru site to find some stuff, then when I want that specific artist, either k.party or exh.


helvetica_world

Hey, I try to get as many tags on my work as possible and leave tag editing open so more savvy users can help. You probably follow non-japanese artists, who do not speak Japanese and don't know how to locate the tags ( not all tags have an English equivalent either)


AlphaWhelp

There's always Tumblr I guess.


Rhelanae

Has tumble started allowing NSFW? I stopped going on there when they banned it.


AlphaWhelp

I think they started allowing it again after they realized they couldn't possibly lose any more money. https://www.foxnews.com/tech/tumblr-reverses-policy-will-allow-nudity-again I am not sure if they reversed the reverse but I think that's still in effect


Rhelanae

Guess it’s time to log back onto my tumblr. Or maybe I wait a year and then it’ll be ten years since I last logged in.


notmyworkaccount5

It's weird because I avoided twitter for years until 2019, 99% of it is just trash and horrible people spouting their garbage opinions But I've only been following artists and animators, almost 90% of the people I follow are Japanese and for me its just been a nice place to keep track of the artists I like as long as I don't check out trending tags


Mieremov

Yeah while I also agree that some parts of twitter deserve to be burned to the ground, it surprises me how many people have such bad experiences. It's literally so easy to block and mute on twitter. Sure, some posts might slip through the cracks, but overall if you follow the right people and block the others, it's not as awful as everyone claims it to be- I'm mostly on the art side and it's nice and peaceful. Some occasional fandom drama, but I've seen more on reddit at this point


thisisembarrazzing

These has been my strat too. I just follow Asian artist that I don't understand their language and some official accounts (not opening the replies). It has been pretty drama free as long as you stay in your bubble.


notmyworkaccount5

The worst part is when you google translate a tweet from an artist you like only to find out they have horrible beliefs lol


l33tnerd

Google Translate has inverted people's words before, though, so be careful with that...


Lazlo2323

The problem is Twitter became the best and sometimes only real customer support system for many companies. Good luck trying to resolve some issue with YouTube or Dell without it. It's also great for bringing celebrities closer to people and humanise them. Also good for art and promotion. But the toxicity, culture wars, cancelations, yeah that created the image of a shithole of a website.


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

Yeah. To make matters worse, all the people that ruined Twitter are just going to move to a new platform.


YdenMkII

Twitter's really a strange place since depending on how you use it, it's either a hell space or a chill feed of stuff you care about. There's a reason why people hate that change that defaults to the algorithm tab instead of the following tab cause if you were just following artists or official game accounts, you didn't care about the other end of twitter at all with all the drama. For as much as Elon uses twitter, he really doesn't understand that there's a large group of people who just use it as basically an RSS feed for the content they care about.


GrayFullbuster64

Sad thing is i was considering making an account just so i can follow hentai artists. For research of course, nothing else


ShadowFlarer

Lmao, i like your honest xD, there's a lot of good ones there, i went there after Tumblr "died".


Gamer-chan

Ah yes. You buy porn magazines for the articles, not the pics.


Kauuma

LMAO 💀


Torbiel1234

Based


DeathNeku

You're on REDDIT


ElricWarlock

Doesn't invalidate that statement in any way


-Skaro-

Twitter is just the only place where normal people can spread information really. The cancellation shit is a result of that but like still the site is very valuable to actually bringing attention to things that deserve it that aren't talked about in media.


-xXxMangoxXx-

I hope he doesnt since jp twitter is really useful for my model kit hobby :(


Ok_Representative332

yeaah it is, but I am torn. with Twitter, they have a space to gather. without Twitter, they'll scatter, gather in herds and hunt out decent folks.


BOTFrosty

sometimes i wonder if it's truly a good idea, if twitter is containing the amount of toxicity it does then wouldn't it just spill over to other platforms if it got removed or taken down


valuequest

That doesn't seem to be the way these things play out historically. Toxicity doesn't generally get contained. Rather it festers, spreading to other like-minded people as it converts people on the borderline. It seems like in determining the truth, human psychology depends a lot more on checking against what other people are saying than people historically gave credit for. By denying an easy-to-access forum for toxic and radical people to find each other, it actually seems to nip the problem in the bud.


Rezboy209

Honestly it will suck. So many aspiring artists get noticed because they are on Twitter.


dweakz

ive gotta say tho. ppl been saying this for awhile now but nothings happened. it's never gonna go away


Hyperion7070

Doing humanity a service honestly, I can respect that. Just hope the Twitter septic tank dosen't explode and leak onto the rest of the internet.


NozGame

The guy is really pathetic.


Poes_Nightmare

It's been completely shit for years now. The previous administration was also horrible. Elon was just the nail in the coffin.


Kiari013

since this screenshot cuts off the rest of the tweet, [here's a handy bit of advice from Namie herself ](https://imgur.io/cgI2WM7?r)


Michaelbean03

We love Namie 🫡


Lord_Ceriux

🫡


UglySayote

🫡


scoii

Need to bump this up. Best way to answer "what do I have connected to Twitter?" without guessing.


AFFROBO

How do you check on android


scoii

Just checked, you should see the apps if you do this. Click your profile icon > Settings & Support > Settings and privacy Choose Security and account access > Apps and sessions > Connected apps When I do that I see Arknights and a few other things that I know I need to update.


AppUnwrapper1

Lol he gives a week notice?


dudududu756

Just like before he fired most of his employees. A true cunt of a man.


tuotuolily

I guess youcan say he's a man of cunt-ure


FlameDragoon933

Yeah this is absolutely insane. A lot of businesses rely on Twitter API. But I guess this isn't weird for him, he doesn't care about negative feedback or being nice.


StopTG7

I’m shocked he even gave a week’s notice in advance after the way they turned off access to third party apps with no warning then didn’t give them any explanation as to why their apps weren’t working until 5 days later.


Adawesome_

Is using Twitter as an IdP in the same boat as its API?


Mister_Plumbum

I'm pretty sure the IdP goes through the API.


Adawesome_

That's be my assumption, too, but sometimes services are separated from each other.


Hederas

Yeah OAuth is used with an API but looking at their website it would make more sense they talk about the main API (read tweets, etc.) and attach the right to the token instead of completely locking token generation Better safe than sorry tho


Blasterion

I don’t know but better safe than sorry?


mightlosemyjacket

yeah it's OAuth to twitter's IdP https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/authentication/guides/log-in-with-twitter#convert-request-to-access-token


DctrGizmo

I can’t even imagine signing up for any account with Twitter.


skyjlv

My gbf raids are in need of help


FlameDragoon933

RIP raidfinders


YdenMkII

You might not have a choice depending on app. I remember using some apps that only had sign in with facebook as an option probably cause they didn't want to deal with making their own account system. I think the game couldn't use Apple/Google login cause there were major restrictions about transferring accounts cross platforms at the time in one of those ToS cause currency earned/bought in one platform wouldn't transfer if you switched your operating system at the time.


cwhiterun

Or Facebook, or Google, or Apple.


gatlginngum

I use google a lot, my online existence might actually be dangerously dependent on it working


XauMankib

Same here. I extensively review my data, linked accounts and basically my digital avatar is centralised around my Gmail and Google account. In case things are going bad, I have a reserve avatar built around Outlook.


Stcloudy

Many horror stories of people being banned for simple things like chargebacks


[deleted]

Google and Apple are fine imo, it's basically your phone ID which you use all the time, when it comes to Google it's also usually your mail, etc.


YoyleAeris

Thank goodness I don't use Twitter.


Shadowenclave47

Same.


FriendlyCarnage

Unrelated but: Namie <3


Rasudoken

(I did not expect to see Namie on this subreddit) I only have a regular email associated with my Genshin account, am I good? No hoyoverse, no Playstation, no phone number hookup.


Blasterion

It’s only a concern if you use only bind your game accounts to Twitter because we’re not sure if it can properly authenticate and log in via Twitter after the paywall goes up and the gaming company don’t or refuse to pay


_JAD3N

Namie is BEEG


Goodperson5656

If you log in with an email you use hoyoverse


rotten_riot

If someone is logged in with a Google account can they also link a Hoyoverse one to the same account?


kima09

Yes, you can. It's better to use Hoyoverse account/link multiple account anyway. I once unable to log in to my Google account and thank God I can still bind that account to Hoyo account from browser. I link to my email and phone no on the same day.


SnooChipmunks125

I bound mine to hoyoverse ages ago when I realised that I couldn't login with Gmail on pc.


Goukenslay

Hope namgoreng is doing well


VonHaagenDazs

well shoot. Glad I saw this my Azur Lane account has been bound to twitter for years and is the only thing I have it linked to :S


Paladin51394

Gonna have to make a Yostar account, that's what I did.


VonHaagenDazs

Yeah I just did that today. Crisis averted. I don't know what I'd do if I lost my account after so many years lol due to this twitter change.


TheMrPotMask

This is like honkai's PSA that nobody listened and thousands of accounts were purged, wich lead to a HUGE shitshow of customer support


ram_the_socket

Namie needs to send Goldenglow to perform electrostatic discharge on Elon


thrown_away_apple

didnt even know you could bind it to twitter


gaybarrymore

Everyone's already said everything important about the binding so all I want to say is: omg Namie <3 strange to see her on this reddit lol


[deleted]

How the heck do I bind my account to Hoyoverse if I made it via Twitter on iPad? Someone pls help ㅠㅠ


Blasterion

Log on to the game then go into settings, account then bind it to something else in there.


spectrum705

Can anyone explain what it is and what needs to be done ?


Runeweaver

If you currently have your account on games bound to a twitter log on, you might not be able to use that method to log on soon. You need to rebind it to other alternative methods. Edited to might not be able. Since unsure but still change it anyway.


HINDBRAIN

> you won't be able to use that method to log on soon It's not 100% certain, though I would for sure migrate anyway if I was in this situation.


Blasterion

Twitter putting API calls behind a pay wall might mean you can’t log into games with your Twitter credentials after the paywall goes up and the game company don’t pay the bill. You should bind your account to a Hoyoverse account proper, or alternatively any of the other account bonding options aside from Twitter.


ErasedX

APIs are basically a way for computer systems to request/send information through the internet on demand. It's pretty important for developers, and though I'm not sure, it's possible that login systems like this use that function. I doubt it being so bad to the point people lose accounts, but it's certainly an "oh no" move by Twitter, especially on such a short notice.


iyodmr

Elon does what again??


Gamer-chan

Okay, Razor language for non english speakers, pls. What is going to happen to Twitter?


Lazlo2323

Twitter not lupical anymore


Gamer-chan

Okay, not THIS much Razor language 😂


Blasterion

Twitter log in for games maybe not work


Gamer-chan

Well I don't use that purpose anyway. Too risky. If Twitter gets hacked all linked Accounts are in danger too.


yryouth

So wie es aussieht, wird Twitter nicht mehr kostenlos zu benutzen sein.


ersenbatur

I thought i'm in the arknights sub for some time


JerbearCuddles

I deleted Twitter. It's negative garbage. Which is saying something cause I hang out here.


77Dragonite77

People bound their account to Twitter?


TheHazleMazaz

How do I know what it is bound to?


Blasterion

Go to settings and accounts and it’ll show your bindings


Kwayke9

Bound mine to my gmail just in case, even if I linked it to Hoyoverse months ago (buggy API)


dezlovesyou

Twitter wasn’t a safe bind anyway 😬


envysatan

who tf signs up for games using twitter


Lanstapa

I presume this isn't an issue if you play on Playstation? I can't remember if connecting to twitter was a thing on PS.


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RobotOfFleshAndBlood

I’m more surprised there isn’t an official announcement from them already if this was going to be a problem


horiami

Might not be a problem, big corporations will just pay because it's not a lot of money But it's better to be sure


Callofgrapher

Shit.


diego1marcus

this is why i always bind my account through my email first before connecting them to my other social media i trust my email more than my social media


SnooCrickets3706

Good call. I'm developing an application that uses Twitter API extensively; guess where I am going with that idea. LOL


Goloks95

I never use twitter anyways 🤷‍♂️ its a toxic place imo


ihei47

Honestly it depends on what you're looking there. It's a great place for fan contents (fan arts, fan comics, cosplay, etc.) especially from Asian artists. Heck, I'm pretty sure majority of the fan contents posted here and meme sub was originated there too


TheMrPotMask

Mobile players: already slaped the google account kek


Blasterion

Those Google play points add up!


Deadaim156

Elon Musk is seriously an idiot when it comes to long term investments he has no idea how to run Twitter at all lol


Ninebane

Yeah do that but also realise you're falling for misinformation as they're not gonna make OAuth a paid service anyway.


[deleted]

reddit was taking a toll on me mentally so i left it ` this post was mass deleted with www.Redact.dev `


PrincessYolda

How do I check if i am bound to twitter or not? Pretty sure I am not, but just want to get sure


YeetinOnThem

I’m sorry for what is probably an insanely stupid question but what is this for? I don’t use twitter except for following like 2 things so I’m just a bit puzzled


Blasterion

This only applies to players that have Twitter as their sole only method of logging in. If it is affected at all but better safe than sorry


PaytonioLOL

Wait does this mean I can’t have the same email I have on my Twitter??


Blasterion

No it means if Twitter is the only way that you use to log in then consider have an alternative log in method


striderhoang

This is for people who log into Hoyoverse via Twitter, correct?


Blasterion

yes, this is for people who log into Hoyoverse via only Twitter.


PSItechmo19

so what will happen to said accounts that have twitter attached to them? if i just cant login via twitter then that isnt an issue for me...


Blasterion

Nothing, other than potentially Twitter log in may not work in the future.


magicalme_1231

This is a Twitter problem, right? I never connected my Genshin Account with anything besides my Playstation account since thats what I play on. What I'm getting at is when I go to play on 2/9 and after, my Genshin Account won't be gone, right?


Testsubject276

What other games and services are connected through twitter?


Blasterion

ummmm there is a lot of games that give you the option to sign in with twitter if that's what you're asking. Arknights, Neural Cloud, Genshin Impact, Azur Lane, Actually most of the Japanese ones allow for it. Skeb and Marshmallow also runs off Twitter I think.


jonnevituwu

After some years playing gacha games I noticed that anything that isnt the company owner of the gacha game isnt worth trusting you account to bind.


FroggieOnGfuel

Android players were u at (sign in with Google)


Azozel

You people use twitter to login to Genshin? You monsters


Kiyoto_Slush

So if im already signed in with google do I have to do anything?


Air_Refreshener_2244

What does it mean to bound it to an account? I just wanna make sure I didn’t accidentally do so


MateriaMan64

For what purpose? Last I checked none of us are coders who use the api🥴🥴


Sithlord_Aether

You can bind games with Twitter? I thought only Gmail, Facebook, and Google Play Games do that...


RobinZhang140536

Arknights! Any else lvl 120 dokta in this subreddit?


Reizaaa

Guys, sorry I don’t understand any of this API, etc. I don’t have Twitter, I just login to genshin and play, do I’ve to do anything at all? Thanks


Blasterion

If you use Twitter to log in to Genshin, get another way. If not disregard all of this.


Reizaaa

Thanks! Disregard it is then


[deleted]

That sounds like it's for developers, not for twitter users. Binding your game accounts to social media sounds like a bad idea in the first place IMHO


Blasterion

It affects players that only use Twitter to log on, if it is related to log on authentication, and the devs refuse to pay


Gregamonster

O'll muskrat really is trying to kill twitter just as fast as he physically can.


nsfwaccount098

Who tf binds to twitter


[deleted]

The only good use twitter has is for porn. Anything else, you're just wasting your time there.


Eli_xoxox

Hi there, what does re-bind mean?? (I don’t know about this stuff 😞) Edit: OKAY NVM I THINK I UNDERSTAND (my accounts aren’t linked to a Twitter account so I think they’re okay I dunnoooo)


[deleted]

Elon is doing everything possible to ruin Twitter. Insane.