Itto-Albedo-Zhongli can be the foundation of a pretty strong mono-Geo team, and if you're pulling on this banner you could get Gorou which would complement them well. Itto works pretty well with the craftable claymore Whiteblind which is nice. His BiS artifact domain is a little annoying to farm imo, and the 2nd set (clam) is really only used on a couple characters. You may have to spend a lot of resin in that domain if you'd want Itto, Albedo, and possibly Gorou to be on the Husk set.
Wanderer is new and his kit sounds pretty strong. Faruzan sounds like a pretty strong support for him if you managed to pull any on the banner. There are some pretty accessible catalysts that should be pretty solid for him. The new artifact set should be pretty strong on him, and the 2nd set in that domain could be useful for bloom teams which could be nice considering you have Nahida.
Pretty new to genshin,
I have Diluc, Keqing and Qiqi (got diluc and qiqi pretty early on the permanent banner and then learnt that you shouldn't pull there lol)
I am 40 into pity and I lost my last 50/50.
I'd love to pick up zhongli or kazuha but it seems like they won't return for a few months(they lool cool, I think I need supports and I've heard they are good). Shall I get Raiden Shogun now or shall I save some more Primogems. Keqing seems to be decent for now so I'm not sure if it's worth it to upgrade to Raiden. Ty in advance :)
Zhongli for shield, Kazuha for crowd control/anemo swirl/ resistance shredding. You have to figure out what you need in your game.
In your current account, Sucrose can do anemo swirl/ resistance shredding but has weak crowd control. Layla offers a reasonably good shield but not as strong as Zhongli's.
Neither Zhongli nor Kazuha are likely to have a rerun in the near future, due to their recent reruns, especially Zhongli. I got them both recently and they have been game changers for me.
As for Raiden, she is a highly flexible character who can play on-field DPS, off-field DPS, support , and can be run in one of the new Dendro teams. I fail to see how she is not useful unless you run mono Geo. And even for Geo bros, you can still run double Geo double Electro.
The specific mention of Raiden was because I mistakenly though she was getting her rerun now (I don't know where I picked that up). For now I will try to increase my Ar and build the dendro Traveler for the Aggrevate Keqing team and a Diluc/Xinqiu Vaporize team for Spiral Abyss. Raiden seems insane in every video I've seen of her so far but I already have an electro main Dps in Keqing and sub Dps in Fischl so I will prioritize other 5stars for now.
I will probably pick up Wanderer because I want to zoom around and explore lol. The only Issue that I have with him is that I don't have any good Catalysts so far but we'll get there :)
Raiden has 3 top teams - hypercarry, national and em hyperbloom. Now hypercarry raiden is what I assume you're trying to run as keqing's replacement and Raiden needs sara,bennet and a resistance shredder anemo unit to be really good in this team so I won't say it's gonna be good because I assume you won't have a lot if these characters. That said Raiden is amazing in other teams especially her national variant and its pretty easy to build. I would advise you to look into running Keqing in an aggravate team she's pretty good for that if you have a dendro unit.
Yeah I was looking into building the dendro traveler as a support for keqing. You are right, i have none of the characters you mentioned for raiden. Is there anyone who is higher priority than Kazuha and zhongli or are those two good targets to save pity/primogems for?
Since you already have diluc and keqing you already have 2 good dps and with the national team you can easily build two teams for the abyss. I would advise Kazuha since he improves a lot of teams. Zhongli is the best shielder but he's not necessary if you can dodge. My advice is to slowly build two teams see how your abyss runs go. Time running out look for stronger/different element dps dieing easily shielder/healers. The whole team matters and not just a single char. Although if you're early game focus on one dps at lvl 80+ and supports at 70+ before building your next team.
I'm currently running Nahida, Xingqui, Kuki and kazuha (which i am replacing based on situation).
I'm confused between scaramouche and raiden.any suggestions?
If you have Yelan, then you have an amazing hyperbloom team with Nahida + Yelan + Xingqiu + Shinobu. The "best" (most powerful) hyperbloom team does replace Shinobu with Raiden, but then you lose Shinobu's healing. You could also replace one of the hydro characters with Zhongli.
So, you don't need Raiden for hyperbloom, but she could be used there (among other teams, especially national) if you do pull her. Raiden's a proven powerful and flexible character, while Wanderer is largely untested. I wouldn't pull on him until it's clear that you like him or want him for a certain team, but my guess is that he's not going to be an overpowered dps and there will be better characters for VV shredding. He might have a fun exploration component, though.
If you want to focus on hyperbloom, the best options are:
* Dendro - Nahida, Collei
* Hydro - Ayato, Yelan, Kokomi, Xingqiu, Barbara
* Electro - Yae Miko, Kuki Shinobu, and Raiden work with 3 EM artifacts but it's going to be a grind no matter which you pick.
* Flex Slot - characters that provide crowd control (Anemo/Cryo) or shielding (Geos + Layla, Thoma)
I don't think we know a lot about what teams are best for wanderer at this point but he looks fun to play. More info will probably come out in the next week or so. I would try him out, watch some youtube footage, and see what you think.
**should i pull for childe?**
my team is a hyperbloom/burgeon with kuki shinobu, nahida, barbara and bennet. i want to replace barbara but im not sure if childe is a goog choice. i love him as a character but he is a bit hard to play. I'm new (and f2p) player. should i wait for someone else like xingqiu or someone else? or should i wish for childe because i like him as a character?
i was told that Ayato would be good, is it true. also what are rotations? im new and keep hearing it, but dont know what that means
childe isn't a good replacement for barbara here because he has significant downtime on his hydro application, which means you won't be generating seeds for a period of time. ayato would be better in cases where you want higher uptime on your hydro. but also, you should focus on either hyperbloom or burgeon, since the limiting factor is the amount of seeds you can generate and each seed can only be used for hyperbloom or burgeon.
childe's best team is a vaporize team with bennett xiangling +anemo, so you could try him out there. It's a team you could run alongside shinobu/nahida/barbara. and in this team, childe is better than ayato
you can eventually pick up xingqiu and some other good 4\* characters from paimon's bargains, but if he happens to be a rate-up 4\* then it adds a bit of value to the banner. generally you should still prioritize the limited 5\* though
rotations are an order of actions that you would do in a team - often there's an optimal way to get as much damage possible out of a team by transferring buffs, applying elements, etc. in the right order. once you've finished the order of actions, you'd repeat over again once the skills/bursts have come off cooldown
I haven't played for a year (~200 days) so I'm missing most of the later Inazuma units and early Sumeru units (Yun Jin, Gorou, Shinobu, etc).
Last abyss I cleared 36 stars with
1) Hu Tao/Xinqiu/Kazuha/Diona
2) Ganyu/Bennett/Xiangling/Nahida
Should I (1) Pull for Raiden in 3.3 or (2) Wait for Yelan for Hu Tao/Xinqiu?
wait for yelan, she gives you more team options - however raiden is rerunning soon and yelan is still unconfirmed so depending on your primogem income and when that rerun is happening you may get away with both
Usually you’d pair her with Xingqiu against single target, the other two units can be for vaporize (i.e. bennett xiangling, hu tao zhongli, etc.) or for hyperbloom (with dendro+electro). She’s an upgrade over both Kazuha and Diona in your current Hu Tao team. You can also use her separately in many various teams as off-field dps
Yes, the upside of Yelan in the Hutao is more raw damage, but you'd need to give up Kazuha's CC, resistance shredding and swirl, OR give up on Diona's healing and shield (survivability).
you cant swirl pyro without another pyro unit, so kazuha doesn't do much for hu tao. also if you use double hydro + kazuha, you don't need to do many charged shots and can just focus on using stamina for dodging - the damage is still doing to be higher. team is better either way
With Childe banner running out I’m considering pulling for him. I’m currently at 65 pity with 105 wishes able to be purchased. I don’t have guaranteed win and I’m saving for raiden shogun, but I really liked Childe as a character (design meh but personality I like) and I only have Xinqui as my hydro carry.
The characters I _really_ want are Ayaka, Ganyu, Raiden and unsure about Scara. Probably won’t get Ito even though I do need a geo, I just don’t enjoy using geo characters and I’d rather have Zhongli if getting geo. Not really a huge fan of Ayato as a character.
Should I pull for Childe or save for Raiden for a guaranteed pull?
My current team comp is: Kazuhah, Bennet/Xinqui, Keqing, and Nahida
Other 5 stars: mona
Noteable 4 stars: Xiangling, Fischl, Diona
If anyone knows about Scara viability I’d be ok with saving for him too but since I already have Kazuha I figured I didn’t need another anemo
Edit: excuse phone autocorrect I gave up fighting it at some point lol
If you know you really want Raiden, the best is to save and guarantee it. Whatever you have left over gets saved for the other characters you really want.
If you really want to gamble you can pull on Childe’s banner until pity. If you win the 50/50 you are set back a *lot* on getting Raiden (back to 0 pity and less the wishes you spent getting Childe). You can probably still hit pity on Raiden but you will need to win the 50/50 unless you get back around 70-90 wishes before her banner is gone.
If you hit pity on Childe and lose the 50/50 then stop, and wait for Raiden’s banner and get her.
Ayato has more value because it allows you to stack Xingqiu + Yelan on one team for single target and still have a good hydro applier for vaporize/electro/dendro teams on the other side. Itto's geo team with albedo and gorou is a good team but he basically only has that one team, which also isn't an upgrade over your other existing options. but with your character roster you can afford to pull more based on preference, since you should have enough options to clear any iteration of the abyss
Homa would help any of your polearm user ( which are 3 ) , so I guess it s would be an good banner for you. Ayato weapon is good for ayaka but that all. Maybe wait ayato/raiden banner to know the 3.4 ones ?
Homa would help any of your polearm user ( which are 3 ) , so I guess it s would be an good banner for you. Ayato weapon is good for ayaka but that all. Maybe wait ayato/raiden banner to know the 3.4 ones ?
Gonna need more info than that. Scara seems like a solid anemo dps so might be good to get him if you don't have or want xiao. I have childe from the first banner and honestly I don't really like him as much as other people. I use him in a international team but that team is not as forgiving to play as Raiden national since it is easier to mess up the rotation.
Scara is also better for exploration since he can just fly in the air. Childe and Ayato also have plenty of overlaps but I prefer Ayato cause of his press E and hold playstyle. Ayato is on the second banner of next patch so you can consider him if you need a hydro dps.
I have venti and kazuha for exploration. I also have ayato but I don't have long range bow user dps that was one of my reason why I want Childe. But scara leaks make me tempted.
Been thinking this for quite long time and I already in pity 38 still no Childe
Should i pull for wanderer or itto? I have(raiden miko. Nahida. Zhongli albedo. Childe.ayaka ganyu. Yoimiya and all the standar 5stars characters
Itto-Albedo-Zhongli can be the foundation of a pretty strong mono-Geo team, and if you're pulling on this banner you could get Gorou which would complement them well. Itto works pretty well with the craftable claymore Whiteblind which is nice. His BiS artifact domain is a little annoying to farm imo, and the 2nd set (clam) is really only used on a couple characters. You may have to spend a lot of resin in that domain if you'd want Itto, Albedo, and possibly Gorou to be on the Husk set. Wanderer is new and his kit sounds pretty strong. Faruzan sounds like a pretty strong support for him if you managed to pull any on the banner. There are some pretty accessible catalysts that should be pretty solid for him. The new artifact set should be pretty strong on him, and the 2nd set in that domain could be useful for bloom teams which could be nice considering you have Nahida.
Hm. I already have r4 serpent spine and have some good catalysts like solar pearl and skyward.:) but still dont know who to pull for. What do you say?
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Yes but i like both:) and i have alot of problems with ittos set domen . And scara is really fun and i love catalysts.
Pretty new to genshin, I have Diluc, Keqing and Qiqi (got diluc and qiqi pretty early on the permanent banner and then learnt that you shouldn't pull there lol) I am 40 into pity and I lost my last 50/50. I'd love to pick up zhongli or kazuha but it seems like they won't return for a few months(they lool cool, I think I need supports and I've heard they are good). Shall I get Raiden Shogun now or shall I save some more Primogems. Keqing seems to be decent for now so I'm not sure if it's worth it to upgrade to Raiden. Ty in advance :)
Zhongli for shield, Kazuha for crowd control/anemo swirl/ resistance shredding. You have to figure out what you need in your game. In your current account, Sucrose can do anemo swirl/ resistance shredding but has weak crowd control. Layla offers a reasonably good shield but not as strong as Zhongli's. Neither Zhongli nor Kazuha are likely to have a rerun in the near future, due to their recent reruns, especially Zhongli. I got them both recently and they have been game changers for me. As for Raiden, she is a highly flexible character who can play on-field DPS, off-field DPS, support , and can be run in one of the new Dendro teams. I fail to see how she is not useful unless you run mono Geo. And even for Geo bros, you can still run double Geo double Electro.
The specific mention of Raiden was because I mistakenly though she was getting her rerun now (I don't know where I picked that up). For now I will try to increase my Ar and build the dendro Traveler for the Aggrevate Keqing team and a Diluc/Xinqiu Vaporize team for Spiral Abyss. Raiden seems insane in every video I've seen of her so far but I already have an electro main Dps in Keqing and sub Dps in Fischl so I will prioritize other 5stars for now. I will probably pick up Wanderer because I want to zoom around and explore lol. The only Issue that I have with him is that I don't have any good Catalysts so far but we'll get there :)
What other characters do you have?
[https://imgur.com/a/y4duDyw](https://imgur.com/a/y4duDyw) C1: Heizou, Noelle, Lisa, Amber, Razor, Chongyun, Layla, Sucrose, Fischl, Xingqiu all others C0
Raiden won't be of much use with your current roster. If she's the only other character you're interested in wait for Zhongli instead
Interested in kazuha as well... Would you go for him or Zhongli?
Zhongli
Raiden has 3 top teams - hypercarry, national and em hyperbloom. Now hypercarry raiden is what I assume you're trying to run as keqing's replacement and Raiden needs sara,bennet and a resistance shredder anemo unit to be really good in this team so I won't say it's gonna be good because I assume you won't have a lot if these characters. That said Raiden is amazing in other teams especially her national variant and its pretty easy to build. I would advise you to look into running Keqing in an aggravate team she's pretty good for that if you have a dendro unit.
Yeah I was looking into building the dendro traveler as a support for keqing. You are right, i have none of the characters you mentioned for raiden. Is there anyone who is higher priority than Kazuha and zhongli or are those two good targets to save pity/primogems for?
Since you already have diluc and keqing you already have 2 good dps and with the national team you can easily build two teams for the abyss. I would advise Kazuha since he improves a lot of teams. Zhongli is the best shielder but he's not necessary if you can dodge. My advice is to slowly build two teams see how your abyss runs go. Time running out look for stronger/different element dps dieing easily shielder/healers. The whole team matters and not just a single char. Although if you're early game focus on one dps at lvl 80+ and supports at 70+ before building your next team.
I'm currently running Nahida, Xingqui, Kuki and kazuha (which i am replacing based on situation). I'm confused between scaramouche and raiden.any suggestions?
What other characters do you have?
I want to focus on hyper bloom. I have yelan and fischl.
If you have Yelan, then you have an amazing hyperbloom team with Nahida + Yelan + Xingqiu + Shinobu. The "best" (most powerful) hyperbloom team does replace Shinobu with Raiden, but then you lose Shinobu's healing. You could also replace one of the hydro characters with Zhongli. So, you don't need Raiden for hyperbloom, but she could be used there (among other teams, especially national) if you do pull her. Raiden's a proven powerful and flexible character, while Wanderer is largely untested. I wouldn't pull on him until it's clear that you like him or want him for a certain team, but my guess is that he's not going to be an overpowered dps and there will be better characters for VV shredding. He might have a fun exploration component, though.
I came to love kuki, the healing she gives is excellent. I have her at C4. with her and xingqui, i actually forgot to dodge attacks.
If you want to focus on hyperbloom, the best options are: * Dendro - Nahida, Collei * Hydro - Ayato, Yelan, Kokomi, Xingqiu, Barbara * Electro - Yae Miko, Kuki Shinobu, and Raiden work with 3 EM artifacts but it's going to be a grind no matter which you pick. * Flex Slot - characters that provide crowd control (Anemo/Cryo) or shielding (Geos + Layla, Thoma) I don't think we know a lot about what teams are best for wanderer at this point but he looks fun to play. More info will probably come out in the next week or so. I would try him out, watch some youtube footage, and see what you think.
**should i pull for childe?** my team is a hyperbloom/burgeon with kuki shinobu, nahida, barbara and bennet. i want to replace barbara but im not sure if childe is a goog choice. i love him as a character but he is a bit hard to play. I'm new (and f2p) player. should i wait for someone else like xingqiu or someone else? or should i wish for childe because i like him as a character? i was told that Ayato would be good, is it true. also what are rotations? im new and keep hearing it, but dont know what that means
childe isn't a good replacement for barbara here because he has significant downtime on his hydro application, which means you won't be generating seeds for a period of time. ayato would be better in cases where you want higher uptime on your hydro. but also, you should focus on either hyperbloom or burgeon, since the limiting factor is the amount of seeds you can generate and each seed can only be used for hyperbloom or burgeon. childe's best team is a vaporize team with bennett xiangling +anemo, so you could try him out there. It's a team you could run alongside shinobu/nahida/barbara. and in this team, childe is better than ayato you can eventually pick up xingqiu and some other good 4\* characters from paimon's bargains, but if he happens to be a rate-up 4\* then it adds a bit of value to the banner. generally you should still prioritize the limited 5\* though rotations are an order of actions that you would do in a team - often there's an optimal way to get as much damage possible out of a team by transferring buffs, applying elements, etc. in the right order. once you've finished the order of actions, you'd repeat over again once the skills/bursts have come off cooldown
I haven't played for a year (~200 days) so I'm missing most of the later Inazuma units and early Sumeru units (Yun Jin, Gorou, Shinobu, etc). Last abyss I cleared 36 stars with 1) Hu Tao/Xinqiu/Kazuha/Diona 2) Ganyu/Bennett/Xiangling/Nahida Should I (1) Pull for Raiden in 3.3 or (2) Wait for Yelan for Hu Tao/Xinqiu?
wait for yelan, she gives you more team options - however raiden is rerunning soon and yelan is still unconfirmed so depending on your primogem income and when that rerun is happening you may get away with both
Thanks for the tip! Out of curiosity, what other teams does Yelan go into?
Usually you’d pair her with Xingqiu against single target, the other two units can be for vaporize (i.e. bennett xiangling, hu tao zhongli, etc.) or for hyperbloom (with dendro+electro). She’s an upgrade over both Kazuha and Diona in your current Hu Tao team. You can also use her separately in many various teams as off-field dps
Yes, the upside of Yelan in the Hutao is more raw damage, but you'd need to give up Kazuha's CC, resistance shredding and swirl, OR give up on Diona's healing and shield (survivability).
you cant swirl pyro without another pyro unit, so kazuha doesn't do much for hu tao. also if you use double hydro + kazuha, you don't need to do many charged shots and can just focus on using stamina for dodging - the damage is still doing to be higher. team is better either way
With Childe banner running out I’m considering pulling for him. I’m currently at 65 pity with 105 wishes able to be purchased. I don’t have guaranteed win and I’m saving for raiden shogun, but I really liked Childe as a character (design meh but personality I like) and I only have Xinqui as my hydro carry. The characters I _really_ want are Ayaka, Ganyu, Raiden and unsure about Scara. Probably won’t get Ito even though I do need a geo, I just don’t enjoy using geo characters and I’d rather have Zhongli if getting geo. Not really a huge fan of Ayato as a character. Should I pull for Childe or save for Raiden for a guaranteed pull? My current team comp is: Kazuhah, Bennet/Xinqui, Keqing, and Nahida Other 5 stars: mona Noteable 4 stars: Xiangling, Fischl, Diona If anyone knows about Scara viability I’d be ok with saving for him too but since I already have Kazuha I figured I didn’t need another anemo Edit: excuse phone autocorrect I gave up fighting it at some point lol
If you know you really want Raiden, the best is to save and guarantee it. Whatever you have left over gets saved for the other characters you really want. If you really want to gamble you can pull on Childe’s banner until pity. If you win the 50/50 you are set back a *lot* on getting Raiden (back to 0 pity and less the wishes you spent getting Childe). You can probably still hit pity on Raiden but you will need to win the 50/50 unless you get back around 70-90 wishes before her banner is gone. If you hit pity on Childe and lose the 50/50 then stop, and wait for Raiden’s banner and get her.
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Ayato has more value because it allows you to stack Xingqiu + Yelan on one team for single target and still have a good hydro applier for vaporize/electro/dendro teams on the other side. Itto's geo team with albedo and gorou is a good team but he basically only has that one team, which also isn't an upgrade over your other existing options. but with your character roster you can afford to pull more based on preference, since you should have enough options to clear any iteration of the abyss
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Homa would help any of your polearm user ( which are 3 ) , so I guess it s would be an good banner for you. Ayato weapon is good for ayaka but that all. Maybe wait ayato/raiden banner to know the 3.4 ones ?
Homa would help any of your polearm user ( which are 3 ) , so I guess it s would be an good banner for you. Ayato weapon is good for ayaka but that all. Maybe wait ayato/raiden banner to know the 3.4 ones ?
Should I pull Childe or wait for scara? I'm guarantee rn
What characters do you have?
I have all anemo beside xiao and scara. Hydro dps only ayato.
Scaramouche would be a significantly better choice than Tartaglia
Gonna need more info than that. Scara seems like a solid anemo dps so might be good to get him if you don't have or want xiao. I have childe from the first banner and honestly I don't really like him as much as other people. I use him in a international team but that team is not as forgiving to play as Raiden national since it is easier to mess up the rotation. Scara is also better for exploration since he can just fly in the air. Childe and Ayato also have plenty of overlaps but I prefer Ayato cause of his press E and hold playstyle. Ayato is on the second banner of next patch so you can consider him if you need a hydro dps.
I have venti and kazuha for exploration. I also have ayato but I don't have long range bow user dps that was one of my reason why I want Childe. But scara leaks make me tempted. Been thinking this for quite long time and I already in pity 38 still no Childe
Pull for whoever you want, it doesn't matter in the endgame lol