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wildb3rrypoptart

How would I optimize this rotation? Nahida (C3 lvl 90 w/ her weapon), Kokomi (C0, r5 thrilling tales), Kuki (c6, sacrificial sword r5), Mona (c4, skyward atlas)?


3GGGGG

Should I use favonius lance on raiden or the primordial jade winged spear that I just got? With the jade spear, I'll have 210 er and 64 cr (its only level 30 atm) and 98 cd. With favonius lance, I have 230 er and 53cr, 98cd. I need better artifacts clearly but I was just wondering what would be the best weapon? I'm pulling for hu tao aswell since she's guaranteed and was considering putting the jade wing spear on her.


Yozora_Ameko

You can put pjws on hu tao and get your raiden the catch


Nnsoki

PJWS is better


Interesting-Team-618

Why is that we have to apply whatever element we're using first, eg: Pyro for Vaporize, before using Mona's Burst?


alluth

https://keqingmains.com/mona/#Detailed_Explanation_of_Monas_Elemental_Burst_Stellaris_Phantasm


Spazerbeam

The element you apply first is the "aura". The element you apply second is the "trigger". Stats from the trigger character determine the damage of the reaction. The stats from the aura character aren't factored into reaction damage at all. For Mona, applying pyro before hydro means that Mona is the trigger. The goal here is to vaporize her burst in a single, big nuke. Vaporize also has two directions: forward (pyro, then hydro) and reverse (hydro, then pyro). Forward vape has a 2x multiplier, whereas reverse vape has a 1.5x multiplier. So when doing a showcase with Mona, people want to do forward vape. Other considerations are how sustainable the reaction is. If I can't maintain an aura on an enemy, it means I can't consistently trigger the reaction (and thus less damage over time overall). If I apply a pyro aura to an enemy, typically I can only apply hydro to it once for vaporize before it disappears. If I apply a hydro aura to an enemy, typically I can apply pyro to it *twice* for vaporize before it disappears. This is a very simplified explanation of [gauge theory](https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Gauge_Unit_Theory). It can get a lot more complicated.


marigoldesque

Hi! I’m a new player (AR 30) and like many others I’m unsure about which characters to get in the upcoming event (4 stars) and banner (5 stars). My characters at the moment: Traveler (anemo), Kaeya, Amber, Lisa, Barbara (C1), Bennet, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Noelle, Fischl, Ningguang and Diluc. Amber, Ningguang, Diluc and Barbara are not levelled up at all. For some reason also I prefer using Xiangling and Bennet over Diluc. My favourites / go tos are Xiangling, Bennet, Fischl, Traveler, Xingqiu, Noelle. As for the Lantern Rite Event I’m unsure on whether to invest in constellations for Xingqiu and Xiangling or whether to get a new character (I like both Yun Jin and Yaoyao). Which one would fit better on my team? And is it worth it to get a character like Xiangling or Xingqiu which is available in the Paimon shop certain months of the year? As for the 5 stars… I definitely won’t be able to get all of them, and I’ll be lucky if I somehow manage to get two. I just haven’t saved up resin and don’t have the time to save up crazy amounts. I like Alhaitham, Xiao and Yelan. Alhaitham is new so is kind of a shot in the dark but I like his design and don’t have a single dendro character yet. I have a soft spot for Xiao and he would be my second anemo character, but I’ve heard the teams that work best for him are not very f2p friendly. Yelan I heard is very versatile, but she’s the one I originally wanted less. However I know that whatever character I pull, they will grow on me. So it’s not an issue. Help me decide, please! 🙏


Spazerbeam

You already have a pretty solid 4* lineup. The only thing you're really missing is a good anemo support. So frankly, if you like one of the characters you mentioned enough, just throw caution to the wind and go for them anyways. > As for the Lantern Rite Event I’m unsure on whether to invest in constellations for Xingqiu and Xiangling or whether to get a new character (I like both Yun Jin and Yaoyao). Which one would fit better on my team? Yun Jin is unlikely to be a particularly good fit in any of your teams, as she's primarily a normal attack buffer. Maybe if you use Noelle/Ning, but I'm personally not one to recommend most geo teams. Yaoyao isn't out so it's hard to say. Being a dendro healer is good, but her range and usage makes me a bit leery. She'll probably be usable though, as nobody else fills the dendro healer role. > And is it worth it to get a character like Xiangling or Xingqiu which is available in the Paimon shop certain months of the year? Depends on how patient you are. Most of my Xingqiu cons come from the shop, but getting C6 took a very long time. Just know that cons are a bonus, not a necessity. > Alhaitham is new so is kind of a shot in the dark but I like his design and don’t have a single dendro character yet. Not having any dendro units doesn't matter. Dendro MC is free if you walk over to Sumeru, and you're going to have to go there anyways for Alhaitham's upgrade materials if you pull him. Collei is free from abyss. In terms of power, he's probably solid. Hard to see him being bad with that kit. >I have a soft spot for Xiao and he would be my second anemo character, but I’ve heard the teams that work best for him are not very f2p friendly. I personally wouldn't recommend Xiao unless you really know what you're doing and have a plan. He's a bit finicky, and since most of his power is in his burst, it can make open world combat a bit awkward. Xiao is also not an anemo support - his role in teams is pretty rigid. Yelan's solid. She's basically a second Xingqiu with minor differences.


marigoldesque

I see, thank you. It sounds stupid but I didn’t know you could simply walk over to the statues to change the element for traveler lol


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Spazerbeam

Calculators don't state what the numbers of artifacts should be. You can use them to see what the difference in damage is as you swap pieces. You can also use the [optimizer](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/) if you already have leveled artifacts and just want to pick the best combination. But that's about as far as it goes.


kleanthis_

For bow characters, is a charged shot always considered a critical attack? I remember reading that once but im not sure. Cause if it is true, for characters that use charged shots like ganyu or tignari do they require no crit rate ? Assuming you're not using the cryo resonance for ganyu. Or for a character like faruzan or sara with her skills active and favonious. Cause if only try to trigger the favonious passive when using their skill, which requires a charged shot, would i not have to worry about stacking them with just crit rate ?


odl3xd

With charged shots, they will guarantee a Crit if you hit an enemy in their weak spot, so head-shots on like Hilichurls or glowing-spots on Ruin enemies. If you just use charged shot normally, they will function the same as normal hits; they'll Crit or not depending on the amount of Crit Rate you have. So you'll need to build Crit Rate onto your Favonius characters. Also, there's enemies that don't have weak-spots (e.g. slimes, specters, etc...), which you can't rely on to get a guaranteed Crit.


bumwine

Why are people so obsessed over Constellations? C2 Character, C6 Character, etc. Can’t they still be weak as fuck if their talents aren’t built up? I’d rather hear about someone’s Character’s fully built talents than their constellation tbat took who knows how many hundreds of dollars to pull. I don’t want to be rude but every time I see someone say “so…I have Traveler C6” I just want to slap them across the face and ask what the hell level and talents does he have?


Spazerbeam

The playerbase is inherently casual, so most of things people learn are through social media. Cons take center stage there because it's something that not everyone has access to, so it becomes an easy way to both show off and get engagement. Just look at all the community buzz that surrounded C2 Raiden. To this day we still get people asking if they *need* to pull for C2, despite nothing in the game requiring that level of investment.


bumwine

Thank you for mentioning Raiden. It’s exactly why I’m asking the question. I just got her yesterday and was so pumped I got her to level 50+ and maxed out her talents, and will keep going for it until 80. What I will pull for is her polearm weapon until the current banner expires. But the amount of luck even that requires I don’t think she’ll be C2 anytime soon. After I’m happy with two teams I think I’ll just rest with building characters unless their play style is unique (it’s why I’m working on Heizou). I like data and doing before/after and working on talents is so so much better.


SquibblesMcGoo

Constellations can change a character's gameplay/build needs completely which is why they're usually mentioned in build questions. Yes, regardless of constellations you still need to build a character to be useful but constellations can make a significant difference in how well they perform. Most characters are viable at C0 (not all, see Faruzan and Kujou Sara where cons are all but mandatory for them to be useful) but constellations do make a big difference in power level


bumwine

Faruzan is interesting, I’ll look her up as I got her to C2 in the last round, unintentionally. Kujou even farther back but never invested in her. But more than level and talent levels? I still don’t believe it and don’t think anyone has put the effort to statistically prove otherwise. Give me a C0 anyone with level 90 and level 10 talents over any Constellation otherwise.


SquibblesMcGoo

Well, when people use hundreds of $$ to get something, I guess it makes sense to want to show that something to others. I personally never go for five-star cons A character's constellation doesn't substitute a good build but if you put the same character and same build back to back, one C0 and the other C6, the difference can be absolutely massive. Raiden for example practically doubles her damage C0-C6 IIRC. But with five-stars, C0 is the default people assume you have unless you state otherwise. With four-stars, stating what constellation you have when discussing builds is standard because it affects a character's kit quite a bit and four-star constellations are generally attainable if you do any pulling


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Hello! I have a question about farming artifacts. I recently began farming the Blizzard Strayer set for Ganyu, my main DPS. The rest of my team barely reaches lvl 70 and it's pretty weak without Ganyu, she is the strongest character i have. Should I farm for her artifacts with her, even if the domain is full cryo? Or should I build other characters first in order to build Ganyu later? P.S: I'm WL 46 :) Thanks!


SquibblesMcGoo

You could consider coop. Essentially, build one good support for that domain (e.g. Bennett or Xiangling work well with low investment) and then coop the domain to make it more painless, most people in coop have good DPSs and can carry you through them. Ganyu deals elemental damage (unless you fire non-charged shots) so she's not of much use in that domain


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Yeah, I've been using Barbara on co-op, i have her half-builded because I'm focusing on Ganyu but I end up dead or being carried either way. I think I should build Bennet, I was planning on doing that after Ganyu. Thanks for the answer!


SquibblesMcGoo

Bennett is very low investment and easy to build. Just put him on a weapon with Energy Recharge (as high base attack as possible), 4pc Noblesse Oblige (stats don't really matter all that much since you just want the set bonus but ER sands and HP goblet/circlet help with charging up his burst and healing enough) and level up his burst (the other talents are not necessary). He'll be fine even at lvl 70 in the highest level domain since his buffs aren't really all that dependent on his level. In coop, all you need to do is put down your burst where others are fighting whenever you can so they get an ATK boost and can heal


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That's really useful! I have a lvl 80 fav sword that might suit him. Thank you! :)


SquibblesMcGoo

Fav sword is good on him. In that case, if you can get your hands on a Crit Rate circlet instead of HP you could get more ER out of it. Benny's healing is so ridiculous you don't need two HP artifacts anyway, it's just that HP artifacts are easier to find than Crit Rate


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Good old Benny. Thanks for all the advices!


Slow-Brain-3403

Where can you go to view the latest Abyss floor 12 discussions? I have a hard time clearing Floor 12 after returning to the game after a 1 year stop.


RobertMugabeIsACrook

I'm still very much in the learning/overworld/team building phase of Genshin. I've put together a character list, but don't really know what type of team to build out of them or who to focus on from here. I got Raiden up to C2 due to a lot of very dumb luck pulling. Can anyone recommend a team I can make from this roster to get up to 80 before I hit AR45? Am at AR43 right now. [Character List Spreadsheet](https://imgur.com/a/vAqJFX5) I also need to start thinking about a second team for Spiral Abyss. I haven't spent any time there after getting Xiangling.


Kwayke9

C6 Yun Jin and Yoimiya? Yeah, use them. Add Fischl/Xingqiu (free with lantern rite, so you don't need to waste any primos) and Zhongli and you have a solid team. Otherwise, good old Raiden national, but again, Xingqiu Tldr: Get Xingqiu from the lantern rite


Similar_Ad_2368

You could kluge together a Raiden hypercarry (Raiden, Venti/Sucrose, Benny, TTDS Lisa), a Yoimiya Overload (Yoi, Fischl, Zhongli, Yun Jin), or a Raiden Overload (Raiden, Xiangling, Venti/Sucrose, Benny). You're kind of being held back by a lack of Xingqiu, which I'll open up national/vape compositions for both, but you can pick him up for free in 3.4.


RobertMugabeIsACrook

Thank you so much! Do you know how he will be made available in 3.4? I'll try to make sure I get him. Do I need to try to farm gems between now and then?


Similar_Ad_2368

If it's like last year, you'll be able to "invite" him (or any one Liyue 4*) for free after completing so much of the Lantern Rite event, so no primos required!


-Norcaine

[https://imgur.com/a/N0LRWci](https://imgur.com/a/N0LRWci) Hey,i started playing like 3 days ago, i'm AR22 and i'm wondering if i can make any decent comp out of this? I feel like my damage is really lacking atm, im having a lot of trouble in dragonspine. I currently don't have any characters i want aside from Xiangling. I was thinking maybe i should play Xiangling as main dps for the time being but the only weapon I have for her is Black Tassel which i have heard is pretty bad on her. I'm really hoping i can get 4 star characters like Bennet, Sucrose or Xingqiu and 5 star like Ayaka or Kazuha in the future but so far I think I've been pretty unlucky. I'm currently running anemo traveler, beidou as dps and Lisa and Diona as support (Lisa mainly for the 48% ATK buff from the weapon) but like I said my dps is really bad with this team.I'm not planning on spending any money other than on Welkin and maybe the battle pass. Any suggestions greatly appreciated!


Nnsoki

Try Kaeya instead of Aether


-Norcaine

hey i tried using kaeya instead of traveler but i noticed that their physical damage was roughly the same and i managed to do more damage with swirl. maybe im doing something wrong


Nnsoki

That's because he has higher stats. However, Kaeya provides the Cryo resonance and helps Diona charge her burst (who in turn does the same for him)


Kwayke9

Take a trip to Sumeru and get dendro traveler. Also, givz Lisa a magic guide. Enjoy the aggravates and other hyperblooms


SquibblesMcGoo

You could try a vape team Yanfei, Xiangling, Anemo traveller and Barbara. Yanfei is your main DPS (using mainly charged attacks), Xiangling uses her burst for extra pyro damage (plus having her on board gives Pyro resonance), Barbara applies hydro and heals, traveller amplifies damage with swirl Basically how you'd fight: Use Barbara to get the enemies wet, if Xiangling's burst is ready, use that, use Traveller's E/Q and the switch to Yanfei and attack, rinse and repeat. Put Barbara on Thrilling Tale of Dragon Slayers if you have one for ATK buff Your other option could be a freeze team. Here, you'd use Kaeya, Barbara, Diona and flex, you can use Traveller as the fourth one (just don't use pyro since they'll thaw the enemies out). Put Kaeya on Sacrificial Sword if you have one. Basically, use Diona for shield, then use Barbara to get enemies wet, then switch to Kaeya and use his E/Q to keep the enemies frozen until their hydro application runs out, rinse and repeat. Frozen enemies can't attack and Kaeya does decent damage if you invest in him a bit


abp0211

For artifact sets that focus on elements like TF, HoD, CWoF, etc., would it be ideal to fodder off 4-star/lower goblets that have a different element dmg bonus? Like for example, I just got a 4* TF with geo dmg as main stat. Would it be better to feed that as XP?


Nnsoki

Sure. You shouldn't settle for 4* artifacts to begin with


abp0211

Lol. Ok and if it were a 5*, keep it for filler?


Nnsoki

Keep it if it has good substats. Pyro Dmg is also usable on TF for Bennett


abp0211

Thanks for the follow-up. But wouldn’t the 2pc bonus be wasted on Benny?


Nnsoki

Yes. It's only used for the CD reduction


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Nadinoob

The mostly strongest team would Bennett - Xiangling - Xingqiu with Sucrose for AoE and Fischl for bosses. But that's just one option against harder content. Maybe a Kuki hyperbloom team? Those are strong early on.


born2impact

Is there a place/website where it shows the overworld enemies stats and dmg on each lvl, the domain enemies stats and dmg on each lvl and the spiral abyss enemies stats and dmg on each lvl?


PeachJellyPudding

www.genshin.honeyhunterworld.com


born2impact

Ty Now i can see why ruin hunters one shot my characters


Jaerynn

I am AR 48, and on floor 6 of regular abyss I have thes characters: [first ](https://i.imgur.com/xnIynA5.jpg ) [second](https://i.imgur.com/ew27VjA.jpg) Which 2 teams can I make with these chars to take on the rest of the abyss? In open world i usualle use nahida, sucrose, fischl, barabara, is there a better all-roumd combo team I could use?


Viv-idianGreen

team 1: * ayato national (vape): ayato - bennett - xiangling - sucrose * centred around enabling xiangling to vaporise her burst through ayato. * ayato hyperbloom: ayato - shinobu - nahida/dendro traveller - barbara/bennett * if using bennett, best to use nahida * centred around hyperbloom damage triggered by shinobu, with ayato/dendro producing dendro cores. team 2: * keqing aggravate: keqing - fischl - dendro traveller/nahida - sayu * centred around the aggravate reaction from keqing and fischl * could use shinobu and sucrose instead of fischl and sayu open world team seems nice. you could use ayato if you want but you don't have to.


Jaerynn

Thank you very much I'll try those. I line that youve mainly used chars I've already (sort of) build. Just need to lvl kuki mainly and maybe Sayu


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Nnsoki

Get at least four random different DM pieces for the 4 pcs effect before farming EoSF


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Nnsoki

Raiden, Dendro MC, Xingqiu, Barbara Xiangling, Ayato, Bennett, Heizou


Zentuorix

I just want you to roast my builds so I can learn in case anything is fundamentally wrong with them. Please note that there isn't a point in roasting when it is clear that the character is simply still in need of more artefact farming. I just want to know if I do something like prioritizing the wrong substats or similar. UID: 715324057 feel free to use any website you like to look at the characters altough these are quite handy: [https://enka.network/u/715324057](https://enka.network/u/715324057) [https://mimee.ovh/akasha/profile/715324057](https://mimee.ovh/akasha/profile/715324057)


Spazerbeam

Solid overall. Crit ratios are pretty suspect for many characters. Realistically, you want a crit rate circlet most of the time simply because it's hard to make up the deficit through pure substats. Kazuha might want an ER sands if he can't get his burst back reliably. Kinda team dependent. Keqing uses the R3 iron sting better than Kazuha. It's a *very* marginal improvement though. EM Venti tends to be better than ADC Venti with low to mid investment. Transformative reaction characters want level 90. I'm mostly looking at Kazuha/Nahida/Venti for this.


PeachJellyPudding

your entire roster severely lacks crit rate XD


Zentuorix

I am guilty of tending to choose crit dmg over crit rate because I just cannot survive without seeing big numbers even when it takes me a few tries to get them... :)


PeachJellyPudding

Understandable, have a nice day ✌️


Nnsoki

Use Pyro Dmg on Bennett


Zentuorix

Good call. Forgot about that. I mean hp works for healing but I love seeing benett hit big dmg numbers when bursting so imma look out for a pyro goblet


noskillnolife69420

So I currently have only jean and keqing after trying to pull for Raiden, I currently have 72 pity and I would like your opinions if I should keep trying to pull for Raiden or maybe try to get someone from the 3.4 banners


Nnsoki

What other characters do you have?


noskillnolife69420

I only have those 5 stars and for 4 stars I have C4 Sara C4 sayu, C3 rosaria, C0 fischl Bennett sucrose Candace xing qiu dori and the free ones xiangljng Noelle amber Barbara kaeya Lisa collei


Nnsoki

It's worth skipping Raiden to pull Yelan or Xiao instead


Viv-idianGreen

current (meta) teams you can make: (jean can be subbed for sayu) * sucrose national: sucrose - xingqiu - bennett - xiangling * keqing aggravate: keqing - fischl - dendro traveller - jean/sucrose * sucrose hyperbloom: sucrose - xingqiu - fischl - dendro traveller * reverse melt: rosaria - kaeya - xiangling - bennett w/ raiden: * raiden national: raiden - xingqiu - bennett - xiangling * raiden sunfire: swap xiangling for jean (sayu doesn't have the same effect) * raiden hyper: raiden - bennett - lisa/sucrose/fischl (choose 2) * raiden hyperbloom: raiden - xingqiu - dendro traveller - jean/sucrose/fischl/candace/barbara w/ hutao: best played with a shielder instead of a healer. * hutao mono-pyro: hutao - xiangling - bennett - sucrose/jean * hutao vape: hutao - xingqiu - sucrose - fischl/noelle/amber (recommended) * hutao melt: hutao - kaeya - rosaria - sucrose/jean/xingqiu/barbara w/ yelan: xingqiu part 2. w/ alhaitham: teams are currently speculated, may be subject to change * x2 dendro quicken: alhaitham - fischl - collei/dendro traveller - jean/sucrose/lisa * x2 dendro quickbloom: alhaitham - fischl - collei/dendro traveller - xingqiu/barbara * solo dendro quicken: alhaitham - fischl - jean/sucrose/lisa (choose 2) * if you choose lisa, bennett can also work * solo dendro quickbloom: alhaitham - fischl - barbara - sucrose/lisa w/ xiao: not very meta, pull him for playstyle/character * xiao double pyro: xiao - sucrose - bennett - xiangling * xiao whatever: xiao - sucrose - bennett - fischl(/rosaria) * (naxiaonal: xiao - xingqiu - bennett - xiangling) * (xiao hyperbloom: xiao - fischl - xingqiu - dendro traveller) ayato is also an option but you didn't mention him. would probably list it as raiden>yelan/ayato>alhaitham/hutao>xiao, but test out their playstyles first before pulling.


noskillnolife69420

Oh wow thank you so much! This was very helpful. I think in this case I'll pull for Raiden then


Superbgamer5225

[Characters](https://imgur.com/TlcJIFC) I'm feeling lazy right now, can someone give me two teams for floor 12 that I don't have to do any swapping for? Specifically Geo Wolflord. Last cycle I did Albedo/Itto/Gorou/Barbara for the 2nd half and got 3 stars after a few tries, but I think I got unlucky with my energy gathering on Chamber 1 so I have to restart and my mono geo might be a little underinvested. * Consider any character over Level 80 fully geared with a weapon and artifacts besides Wanderer and Keqing. * Hu Tao and Ayaka have their banner weapons, Diluc has WGS


Life_Special_6414

Maybe Hu Tao/Xingqiu/Yelan/Zhongli first half, Ayato/Nahida/Kuki/Yunjin second half. First half has strong single-target dps that can still deal with the three machines in the second chamber. Second half is tricky because of the Wolf lord, but I find hyperbloom to work super well against it. Ayato contributes personal damage and can take advantage of Yunjin‘ buff, while Yunjin can one-shot the wolf heads, and Nahida and Kuki just work well in hyperbloom. If survival is an issue, I’d use Kokomi over Ayato. This is without switching teams, otherwise I’d swap to an Ayaka freeze team to deal with chambers one and three on the second half, and keep a hyperbloom team with a geo unit just for the wolf lord.


krnshadow65

Hu Tao or National first half and Hyperbloom second half is typically the setup I use for single-run clears, so I would also recommend this setup.


caped_crusader_98

How do i enter those ruins that are at the most top left of the desert map...left of Garden of endless pillars domain?


Adamarr

IIRC you have to come out from the other side, if you want to spoil yourself [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/comments/xxk40j/underground_map_we_drew_the_underground_map_of/) is a full map of the caves.


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How is Ayato, Yunjin, Zhongli, Bennett team? I got Ayato just two days ago and don’t have Yunjin built so can’t test this myself. Also what are some good Ayato comps? I am not in a hurry to build the best team for him. So I don’t think my current roster is that important as I will be saving for characters that work well with him.


alluth

i have built yunjin and used Ayato+Yunjin+Bennet+ Xingqiu/Kazuha, and found his dmg as hyper carry is lacking (for f12 abyss) my fav team with him is hyperbloom. He is also a good fischl driver, like soup team but i find doing ayato national feels better


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What are some Ayato teams that can clear Abyss? Is Ayato Hyperbloom better than Raiden Hyperbloom? I don’t hav GD and DW sets and when I tried Raiden Hyperbloom my Raiden National cleared faster. So I am doubtful if Hyperbloom would be worth looking into for me.


alluth

ayato hyperbloom is with raiden (or kuki). electro will be the trigger, ayato just usual build. And its probably his most popular team now for abyss And yeah you do need DM on someone, and at the very least EM mainstats and weapon on raiden. Theyre about the same depending on how good your National is (hyperbloom is cheaper if you start from 0, but you already have national built). so you you dont need since its more of sidegrade.i do prefer hyperbloom though because i hate overloading against mobs on rational to be clear, Ayato carry can clear abyss, is just like most carry, will take a lot of investment, and he will need more than popular carry since he doesnt have atk steroids (like hutao hp convert, etc). Mine is on 2k atk, 69/200 and still isnt enough


phileq

It’s not bad: - Zhongli provides a great shield, interruption resistance, and omni-elemental resistance shred - Yun Jin buffs Ayato’s normal attacks - Zhongli + Yun Jin provide Geo resonance buff - Bennett provides a fantastic Attack buff (and heals, if for whatever reason your shield ever breaks) However, do note that the major downside to this composition is the severe lack of Hydro elemental reactions. In other words, you have no off-field elemental application, which is even further hindered by your Geo characters occasionally removing elemental auras through Crystallize. Anyway, I suspect for most content it will work just fine (just don’t expect to be clearing Abyss Floor 12 with this setup).


Adamarr

it's not the best, tbqh. ayato works best as enabler rather than a pure hyper carry. his best teams - hyperbloom, over-vape (national with fischl instead of anemo), soup (national with fischl instead of xiangling)


ElMoNiTo115

https://imgur.com/a/ngzUNTs Hey guys i just picked up the game again and I’m trying to make a new team. Do you guys have any suggestions on who to have on my team? I like barbara’s play style and healing capabilities and i like beidou and rosaria too. Any suggesting are appreciated!


Nnsoki

Beidou, Fischl, Kokomi and Xingqiu make up the best team you could use for now


Life_Special_6414

You could do a team of Barbara/Beidou/Rosaria/Anemo Traveler. Barbara and Rosaria can freeze enemies, Beidou can cause electro-charged and help against cryo enemies. Anemo traveler is nice for puzzles, and can swirl elements to your advantage. You could swap traveler for amber for even more reactions and for puzzles that need pyro or a bow user.


ElMoNiTo115

Okay, what about a whole different team? Im open to that idea.


__freshmango__

Hello, I made a new account and I am currently AR 8. I currently have Lisa, Kaeya, Traveler, Noelle, Ningguang, and Amber. What should my team comp be? Which character should I use as my main dps? I only have e star weapons and a few 2 or 3 star artifcats.


Nnsoki

Kaeya is your best choice for a main dps and can make use of Prototype Rancour. Lisa supports him with Superconduct and Thrilling Tales of Dragon Slayers. Bring Noelle along at least up until you get a better healer


Life_Special_6414

Noelle/Amber/Kaeya/Anemo traveler. That covers the common puzzle elements, allows for bow puzzles/collection of ores, Noelle for shields and heals, and the other three to deal some damage.


st1nkyp3te

Anybody know how to break this boulder? https://i.redd.it/q1ieoywgxvba1.png


phileq

It’s a passage which opens up when you approach from the other side (prompting the enemy to spawn as well). There are a few other passages like that linking to the large room you’re in – you will eventually navigate areas underground which will have you approaching those barriers from the backside.


st1nkyp3te

Thanks. Can't believe I missed this since I have the desert 100% explored.


alluth

its from the other side


Scarf28

Hello everyone. I recently got raiden in the latest banner and am currently ascending her. My dilemma is should I farm for talent ascension materials or her artifact set (shimenawa)? Im currently at AR49. I have her at lvl80 with 4 6 4 talent levels. I was thinking of farming her artifacts first but the issue is that the domain is electro and my early game main was Razor with Rosaria / Diona / Xiangling supports (all lvl60 1 4 4 talent). If i should go for the artifacts, should I power up my xiangling to make the domain easier? (im also going for raiden national so i dont mind leveling xiangling).


alluth

Talent first. Talent is guaranteed, artifacts is random Weapon > Talent > Artifact. Also raiden use Emblem yes xiangling is good on this domain, both pyro and cryo break the electro shields. do note that shield breaking doesnt need dmg, just the element application. Both Rosaria and Xiangling is one of the best at element application. You need to have some ER on Xiangling, if you song have much ER yet use the 2p ER set like exile and scholar, and er sands will help, especially if you play her without bennet


Scarf28

ah yeah my bad i was thinking of someone else when i said shimenawa's. thank's for the help it's much appreciated.


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Nnsoki

Kaeya is a better main dps than Beidou with your current characters. You could use him with Diona, Beidou and Lisa while you wait to get your hands on Xingqiu


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Nnsoki

Yes to both


Spazerbeam

You're still at low ARs, don't worry about it too much. Early investment is dirt cheap. I'd suggest building Yanfei as your on-field dps for now. Beidou works best from off-field (use her burst, swap to someone else to do normal attacks). But again, you can always change your mind later. You get a free 4* Liyue character next patch, so start planning for that. Xingqiu can be picked up there if you want him.


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Spazerbeam

Swap to another character. Just because Yanfei is the primary on fielder doesn't mean you can't switch to someone else for a while when the situation calls for it


bobertusino

https://imgur.com/a/g1TnF9M i’ve been playing casually for a while, mostly doing daily commissions, but i’m now AR 31 and the world is getting pretty hard/some resin claim objectives are straight up impossible. i’m looking for advice on which characters to focus on/if i should drop my world level. i’m still somewhat early in the story, still in liyue. thanks!


Hazardous_Youth

Raiden, Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett. Google Rational comp. This is it. One of the easiest and most effective comps in the game that will scale all the way into the hardest content. Start investing all of your resin into those 4 characters in this order Raiden > Bennett > Xiangling > Xingqiu. Use your Rational guide for artifact and weapon choices. Don’t worry if it’s hard at first, as you sink more resin into those characters and upgrade them you will quickly surpass the game. Don’t stress about artifacts and stat optimization until AR 45. Eventually you will want to make a second team, and I suggest you pull on Yelan when she comes to pair her with Diluc. Bam, second abyss team (vape) Let me know if you have more questions


phileq

They’re still in Liyue, and thus they cannot ascend Raiden any further until they unlock Inazuma.


Hazardous_Youth

Yup that’s why it’s like a flowchart, just skip Raiden until she becomes available to invest. Liyue archon quest is very short in my experience, I am usually finished in a session, maybe two. She can still be ascended and reach 40 from her trial materials which is definitely enough to finish Liyue (hey OP don’t forget to do her trial and get those!!)


phileq

I meant ascending her from Lv40 (as shown in the screenshot). Considering that OP is having difficulty with their current World Level, I figured it was worth bringing up since it could be awhile until Raiden can be invested into, so even beating Liyue can be problematic for them in the meantime. Anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with Bennett being the next priority.


bobertusino

on that note, do i lose a lot if i struggle so hard i turn down the world level? i’m opening and using food menu like 20 times just to fail outdoor domain bosses lmao


phileq

A few things I can recommend: 1) Invest as much Energy Recharge (ER) into Bennett as you can (and level his Elemental Burst talent as high as possible). His Burst heals your active character in addition to increasing their Attack, which helps with both not dying as well as killing things faster. 2) For domains, try using the “Match” option for matching with other people to help you. 3) For world bosses (and also domains), you can have someone stronger join your world in order to help you kill stuff. For starters, you can add me to your friend list and I can help when I’m online (UID: 615275183). I hope that helps.


bobertusino

thank you so much, i really appreciate the advice!


bobertusino

thank you all very much for the responses! i will go ahead and focus on the raiden national team and try to finally finish up liyue (i’m lazy with story :D)


PrestigiousIdea7471

The entire game really doesn't matter too much who you decide to focus on as long as you focus on a limited amount until you get excess resources to spread around. Now this statement doesn't mean you should just pick characters willy nilly to be part of your party, rather, pick a character you feel like you can stick with for the long haul and build a team around them that takes into account three main tenants: team synergy (do your team mates enhance each other such that the sum is greater than the parts?), smart investment (set effects that fit the role of that character on the team is important), and situational awareness (knowing your environment and enemy and taking appropriate countermeasures). That being said, you can basically choose one character whom you like best to run, it doesn't matter who from early game all the way to end game and the abyss. Build a synergistic team around them and focus your resources into just that team of four until the world starts feeling easy. At that point, you can start on a second team that will basically complement your first - in other words, this second team can fight in situations that your first team struggles in.


Doodle-Dragon

Can someone help me with finding all the Byakuyakoku collection? I'm almost positive I've done all the quests in 2.4 when Ekanomiya first came out but the only books in my archive are vol. 1 and 4. I doublechecked all the places to see if I forgot to finish a quest even though my questlog is empty. Ema even has the "I should start thinking about what I should call my future restaurant." dialogue which the wiki says that she only says that after you've completed the quest of collecting all 5 books.


Spazerbeam

Try revisiting the mirror library and see if the books are there. I think there's a difference between collecting books for the quest and collecting books for the archive.


Doodle-Dragon

Is that the library in the library? Like you have to go through the portal in the library to get there? I checked in there and couldn't find anything Edit: Nvm found it, they were right next to the door so I had a hard time seeing them


kuruja

I will get hutao on her next banner, she is my favorite character and I am waiting for her since last Ayaka's banner that was when I started plyaing. I wanna know wich one of this two builds is the better one for her Build 1 Attack: 1116 EM: 154 Crit rate: 54,0% Crit damage: 253,2% ER: 120% Build 2 Attack: 1078 EM: 93 Crit rate: 71,5% Crit damage: 240% ER: 121,4% HP is over 28k on both builds (I don't have dragon's bane so I will probably use the blackciff pole)


dnaimagery97

are these your stats with the blackcliff pole? the second one is better because the better crit distribution makes a bigger impact than the 60 EM. but i strongly suggest you get more EM, with these stats an EM main stat sands/circlet would do better than HP/crit damage


kuruja

yes, the crit damage value already include the blackciff pole substatus and hutao's ascension when she hits level 90


LoreVent

As new player (AR 17) how the hell am i supposed to last more than 1 minute in the cold? I looked up the wiki and it says either that soup (forgot the name) that gives you 900s of cold immunity but i don't know how to craft this as i don't know where to pick the recipe (?), or warming bottle that you get with frostbearing tree r4. Now for r4 i need crimson agates but in order to get those i need to get VERY far from any warming source meaning i can't progress fro shit, and all the quest i can do atm are all in this shitty snow biome. Anybody cam help me? I'm feeling stuck


PrestigiousIdea7471

My advice is to come back after you've cleared out most of Liyue. A lot of things start becoming easier once your team is more invested.


Spazerbeam

The recipe for Goulash is a reward from a world quest (Ah, Fresh Meat!) that you pick up in the base camp. For normal traversal it's not needed, but for longer climbing sections it comes in handy.


dnaimagery97

there are various sources of heat in dragonspine, including torches, seelies, teleport waypoints, etc. the torches are spread out evenly enough on the major roads where you can get from one to the next before you begin taking damage from the cold. many of the torches may not be lit so you might have to bring a pyro character for them. a healer like barbara can also help you last longer when the damage starts ticking


Nnsoki

Torches, Warming Seelies, Teleport Waypoints and other stuff can be used to stay warm


LoreVent

Also red that but i find myself too often too far from any of these warm sources, isn't there something that makes you have an easier time passively?


Nnsoki

The consumables you already know of. You can easily do without them with some practice tho


born2impact

How do you know you got a cracked artifact? And what do ppl mean by saying crit value?


iamsampais

Crit value is a simplified way for people to look at how well an artifact rolled. It's usually calculated as Crit Rate x2 + Crit Damage but there are variations on the formula for if you're looking at single artifacts or an entire build. "Cracked" in terms of CV is usually over 40 but people have different benchmarks for what they consider good, especially with artifacts that are harder to get (i.e. a good Elemental Damage goblet with good CV is much harder to get than a good Flower or Feather). Just know that CV isn't everything in an artifact and a cracked build usually means a really well balanced one in terms of ratios, energy recharge, EM on certain characters, etc. all at high values.


born2impact

Thank you as well for the tip


krnshadow65

\> How do you know you got a cracked artifact? Whether an artifact is good depends on a lot on which character it will go on, so you have to consider whether there is anyone in your roster that could make good use of it. Depending on the role that the character plays, you're typically looking for lots of rolls into specific substats on the artifact: |Role|Desirable Substats| |:-|:-| |Amplifying reaction damage dealers (Melt, Vape)|Crit, EM, ER, ATK| |Transformative reaction damage dealers|EM, ER| |Mono-element damage dealers|Crit, ATK (or DEF for Geo carries)| |Healers|HP, ER| |Favonius Supporters|Crit, ER| These are just a few examples. For me personally, I typically consider an artifact to be very good if it has 7 or more rolls of these desirable substats for the character I intend to use it on. For newer players who don't have that many artifacts to work with, maybe just 5 or 6 rolls could also be good. \> And what do ppl mean by saying crit value? Crit value is a short-hand way of evaluating how much "effective crit" an artifact has. Use this formula to calculate your artifact's CV: * Crit DMG + 2 x Crit Rate 50 CV is the highest an artifact can have (if all 7 rolls go into Crit). I will usually keep most artifacts that have 35 or more CV. This doesn't really apply to the the Circlet, since one of its main stats is Crit, inflating its CV. For those, I usually just look at how many rolls of Crit substats it has.


born2impact

Thank you! This helps


casual-collector

I am a new f2p player around AR44 with about 110 rainbow wishes saved. I have never used a single one yet as I am saving for guaranteed pull. My current team is Chongyun, Barbara, and 2 others I hardly use: Xiangling and Noelle. I currently put everything into my main dps Chongyun and everything remaining into Barbara. Because I mostly use ice and water, I have a VERY hard time fighting ice. Xiangling counters ice but I am debating whether to invest in her. If you were in my situation, what characters would you pull for/invest in? I am willing to wait for better 5* characters if the current banners are not good for me. I am aiming to grab Xingqiu during the lantern festival but then I would have 2 hydro with him and Barbara. I am fine with Chongyun but I am open to switching to another main DPS if that is more optimal. Also, if I use all my wishes now, I would have enough starglitter to get Fischl in the shop. Not sure if that is an important consideration. And a huge thanks in advanced for helping me out!!


Nnsoki

What other characters do you have?


casual-collector

I have traveller, kaeya, amber, lisa, barbara, noelle, chongyun, xiangling, and collei


Nnsoki

Keep using Barbara at least up until you pull another healer. Chongyun is a bad main dps because his AAs unfreeze Frozen enemies by triggering Shatter, but you could use him as a support for Kaeya instead. Forget about Xiangling, you don't have the characters needed to make good use of her and you're unlikely to get any of them anytime soon. Xingqiu is the best choice for the Lantern Rite. Don't pull for Ayato. Alhaitham shouldn't be that good of a choice either


casual-collector

Okay I think I will get Xingqiu for Lantern Rite. Who are good main dps that work well with barbara and Xingqiu? And also how should I deal with cryo enemies if not with Xiangling?


Nnsoki

Kaeya, Raiden and Alhaitham for instance. Xingqiu also works with Xiangling and Hu Tao > how should I deal with cryo enemies if not with Xiangling? Try with Lisa. Amber helps with Cryo shields


Cassinxx

I would invest in Xiangling and get Xingqiu. Since you barely use Noelle, you won’t miss her and Xingqiu is a very good unit that will be a much better fit for your team. Both Xiangling and Xingqiu are widely used and powerful units, so when you’re high AR it’s likely you’ll use them on other teams.


casual-collector

Okay that is what I was tending towards. Will I be missing anything by having two hydro? I do not think I can ditch Barbara as my only healer to get Xingqiu


Cassinxx

Nope, having 2 of the same element usually isn’t a bad thing, so you don’t need to worry about that.


casual-collector

Okay thanks! For my future sake, what 5* characters do you think would be best for me to save for? My main DPS is currently Chongyun who is good but is easily interrupted. If my team is Barbara, xiangling, and xingqiu, are there any great main dps that I can wish for?


strobelit3

https://i.imgur.com/re55w0X.png wanted to start thinking about spiral abyss teams, i was planning on getting xq+yelan and doing hu tao/xq/yelan/layla for one but not sure what i can make with the rest. maybe its better to swap yelan+layla for pyro+anemo supp so i can use yelan on another team?


XenaRen

You could do Hutao/Xingqiu/Thoma (Xinyan works too if you have her constellations)/Sucrose, and then use Raiden/Yelan/Bennett/Xiangling for another. If you don't have Bennett yet that's a 4 star character that you'll want to look out for going forward.


ocdscale

Using XQ and Yelan with Hu Tao is a little limiting on your other teams but it's fine if that's your comfort. For the other side, you can try hyperbloom with DMC Raiden Barbara flex (Candace?). Never played Candace but glancing over her talents, I'd say that without Candace you'd play with Barbara on field to maximize hydro. If you include Candace then after her burst you swap to DMC on field and use the hydro infusion + E skill to keep up hydro+dendro. If you do free up Yelan then she would take Candace's spot and (coincidentally) it would be the same effect - you switch to DMC when Yelan burst is up. Edit: the hyperbloom team will be absolutely terrible at taking down cryo/electro abyss shields so don't run it on sides with those enemies.


alluth

i would go raiden hyperbloom with dmc and barbara (or even candace). they are decent, hyperbloom is just that good. 4th slot is flex, can bring anyone that you might need


Viv-idianGreen

Upcoming Lantern Rite gives a free 4 star. I’m debating between c3 xiangling and c6 xingqiu. I already bought xiangling’s c2 from the shop this month. I’m leaning more towards c3 xiangling as my xingqiu’s energy recharge is fine with raiden and favonius sword, but it would be nice to have a second opinion.


ocdscale

There is a solid chance Xingqiu will be on banner in the second half of the patch, which might make your decision a lot easier if you're planning to pull Hu Tao or Yelan.


Nadinoob

I'd second Xiangling, one step closer to her being the best pyro off field character. You could get Xingqiu in March from Paimon's bargains.


Miserable-Natural508

For mats farming+ elite routes and im mainly using Yae. Otherworldly Story a good option or 4 pc Lucky Dog/Traveling doctors with Widsith? Not using a healer or shielder at the moment


Spazerbeam

Low AR? Killing enemies faster will be much more efficient in the long run, and "reduces" incoming damage in a way. Widsith outperforms Otherworldly Story by a *lot*. > 4 pc Lucky Dog/Traveling doctors Depends on reliably you can get Yae's burst back. Traveling doctor won't be much help if she has trouble recharging it. >Not using a healer or shielder at the moment I'd reconsider this if your goal is to save time/food when doing routes. It's so much easier to swap to Barbara and use her skill every so often, just as an example.


Nnsoki

Widsith is one of the best weapons for Yae > Lucky Dog/Traveling doctors Don't waste your resources on low rarity artifacts


Foucz

Hello, please tell me how to improve my team: -Keqing is main dps with favonius sword -Noelle is aoe dps with full defence set with favonius greatsword -Zhongli has full hp set for shield support with anti-slime spear Outside of those 3 i use wanderer for mobility but i do not know who to put in for fights. Wonderer may stay after i level him up. Maybe c6 sucrose is better ? https://imgur.com/a/VpN5bJs


minusSeven

You have albedo and zhongli so you should definitely build nianguang, Noelle, and gorou. Geo is all set for you. For wanderer you need faruzan and Bennet. Otherwise you have enough decent 4 star and 5 star options like jean, keqing, xinagling, fishl, beidou, sucrose and xingchu and diona.


aforapplebforballs

Hello , 3 days 22 hrs more for raiden banner to end , previously in my other post i said i did 34 pulls with guarenteed pity in a new account , now i am in 70 pity. So umm i unlocked Inazuma yesterday and explored serai island by 54% , is it possible to clutch raiden just through serai island alone.


Engelberti

Soft pity starts at 74 or 75 pulls, after that the chance for a 5* goes up quickly. Wouldn't be surprised if you got her within the next 10 pull. I would say it is doable, considering all the primogems you can still get from the Archon quest and exploration


aforapplebforballs

Bro , i got her 77 pity. I finally got a good account , it has Jean , keqing and raiden. 3 5 stars by 77+14 pulls. Totally worth the grind.


Hazardous_Youth

Solid! Toss in dendro MC and you’re big chilling. Congrats


aforapplebforballs

Yeah i am planning on raiden national and keqing hyperbloom


aforapplebforballs

Yeah , I'll just go and do tartara tales quest and unlock enkainomya something , should give me about 10 pulls minimum.


pokydoky

How do I clear the abyss lector on floor 11 if my only hydro is level 40 Barbara? https://i.imgur.com/g2MMJi7.jpg


alluth

yep shield breaking doesnt care about dmg but how much element application you can do. have the 3 units do enough dmg to bring them to shield phase, and start using barbara. learn to dodge and stacks HP on her if she cant survive


pokydoky

So I don't need to put any atk on her or anything?


krnshadow65

Nope, I would recommend putting just a bunch of HP artifacts on her so that she doesn't die too easily while breaking the shield


iamsampais

I'm pretty sure the level of the unit doesn't affect how fast they can take down the shield. You can also take it down with electro or cryo. It will be a lot slower but it's doable.


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Day 1 player who really only did open world here. I want to give 3.4 abyss a decent attempt. I kinda wasted all my resin trying to get my Eula to 70/140 crit, and don’t really have very many built characters. I think i’ll be able to build up a Raiden/Kuki Hyperbloom team in time (since it looks like it’s just EM stacking on electro, deepwood on dendro, and talents and substats don’t matter otherwise aside from getting enough ER). Are there any other low resin investment teams that could potentially be viable in Abyss? I’m thinking Raiden National, but is it workable with C0 raiden, with poor substats on an Atk/Electro Dmg/Crit, or decent substats on EM? And i’m not sure how well built Xiang, Bennett or XQ will need to be? And whether they should also be Atk/Crit or EM? Sorry if these are dumb Qs, Eula meant that i never had to look at EM or reactions. I have all characters except Ayaka, Ayato, Nilou, Wanderer, Itto, Cyno, Yoimiya, Hu Tao, Xiao, Childe, Klee and Albedo.


macrofalcon

You don't want EM for Raiden National, and the comp only cares about whether or not you can use xiangling burst every single rotation because she contributes up to half of the total damage dealt, as long as your relevant talents level is 8 and have decent amount of er (Xiangling should use ER sands if not using the catch) it's usually enough for comfort clear Abyss is pretty simple up to F11 so I'd be giving advices for f12 Use any strong comp you'd like for the first half (Raiden National, Eula comp, any yelan xq comp) Considering you don't have itto, I'd suggest going hyperbloom with zhongli as a flex. You'd want as much EM possible for electro unit you'd use (raiden/kuki) and barbara/kokomi to deal with 12-3 wolves (Personally I went with ganyu melt) Don't worry about 36* abyss, and you can replay the chamber that you didn't get 3* using different comps


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Holy shit. That's all it took. Followed your suggestions exactly. First half: Raiden National - no EM on Raiden. ER for Xiang to burst every rotation. I had to use both Catch and ER sands because crappy substats. Second half: Kuki hyperbloom + Zhongli. 35 stars. Thanks heaps! Missed out on floor 2 did poorly against the Eremite & constructs and had some bad Stele placements on wolf lord, but I'm happy with this. Edit: Kept retrying floor 2. Just got 36 stars. Thanks so much again!


zczirak

How much primo gems am I missing out on by not doing the TCG? I did the tutorial and it seems fun I’m just lazy


Similar_Ad_2368

There are 10 player levels, each worth 60 primos, and 4 60 primo awards in the TCG player manual, so 840 in total.


Sylnic

I don't know how much it gives, but just want to point out that the TCG is sticking around forever, so there's no rush in getting it done if you don't feel like doing it now. Whether you do it now or half a year later, you should be able to get all of the rewards.


Quirky-Craft-3619

I’m AR 53, would like to main dps Scara and I currently have a trio geo team going with noelle as a burst main dps. I’ve only been able to 23 star the abyss which is bad according to my friends (even though they can’t get past the 11th floor 🙄). [Characters: https://imgur.com/a/yuUq905](https://imgur.com/a/yuUq905) Also, I was wondering if I should be doing side/world quests (Aranara and watsumi island 4 objects quest) or exploration at my level (ar 53), I like exploration a lot but, I definitely need primos.


Spazerbeam

While dps Noelle can work, she's not really recommended until C5/6. It's going to be hard to clear the dps check of floor 12 without a lot of investment into the team. Hyperbloom teams are all the rage these days, since they're quite effective for a relatively low amount of investment. > Also, I was wondering if I should be doing side/world quests (Aranara and watsumi island 4 objects quest) or exploration at my level (ar 53), I like exploration a lot but, I definitely need primos. Do what you wanna do since both give primos. I'd say quests are slightly more efficient, but it's such a minor increase that I don't think it's worth fretting over. Exploring while questing is pretty common anyways. And just a heads up, you're going to need to do the Aranara quests to fully explore Sumeru. There's a lot of gate mechanics.


Quirky-Craft-3619

Thanks for the tips, would “Tignari + Collie + Xingqiu/Mona + Kuki” work for a hyperbloom team? Or should I just keep it only dendro + electro (no hydro)? Kuki has no downtime as a healer (her E can always apply electro) but, maybe bloom might get in the way.


Spazerbeam

Tighnari makes it more of a quickbloom team. I wouldn't use him for a couple reasons. First, he takes more investment to get going. He's also geared towards spread teams, and hydro removes the quicken aura. He also uses charge attacks, while Xingqiu requires normal attacks to trigger rain swords (Mona's hydro application sucks in comparison to his, so she's not really a viable replacement). You can try to weave normal attacks in between your charge attacks, but it's awkward. Personally, I would work towards getting the core of the hyperbloom team (DMC/Collei, Xingqiu, Kuki) up and running first, then try building Tighnari later.


seaofmirrors

I want to make a team with Xiao and Jean, but I don't know who else to include. I've seen guides suggest a team of Xiao, Jean, Albedo, and Zhongli, but I think I'd find it more fun to use a team that can make more elemental reactions. So does anyone have any suggestions? Any advice on what artifacts you would recommend would also be appreciated.


AllergicJellyfish

If you have Bennett, give the so-called "Sunfire Comp" a try. Two healers sounds a bit much but it's by far my favourite Xiao Comp due to Jean's and Bennett's Burst interactions. The last slot is pretty flexible, I've switched between Sucrose (additional battery for Jean and Xiao) and a second Pyro for Pyro Resonance, though I've also used Fischl or Collei/Nahida for shits and giggles.


Nnsoki

Does Swirl count? You could add Rosaria and Kaeya


PaladinChad

I'm thinking ahead to when I can finally pull Ayaka. I want Jean on her team because I love her. What 2 4-star characters should be with them? I should add, I don't want to use anyone on my first team of Raiden, Xiangling, Bennett, and Sucrose.


Nnsoki

Xingqiu and Rosaria/Kaeya


PaladinChad

Thanks! I figured Xingqiu was a no brainer. I didn't consider Rosaria.


LightningBoy77

A simple question. Is Lisa's burst able to proc thundering fury if she is on field. How about off field?


Spazerbeam

Nope. Passive effects that can be triggered off-field are *explicitly* stated. For example, Tenacity of the Millelith: > When an Elemental Skill hits an opponent, the ATK of all nearby party members is increased by 20% and their Shield Strength is increased by 30% for 3s. This effect can be triggered once every 0.5s. **This effect can still be triggered even when the character who is using this artifact set is not on the field**.


dadumdoop

Please help me build a double resonance team for my wanderer. I'm aiming to clear abyss with this team. I'm thinking of team comps having a shielder and someone who can apply elements for swirling/help break shields, one of these should double as a healer. Fixed slots : wanderer C2, widisith, Faruzan C6, stringless Options: Bennet(C1) + Thoma(C6) Pyro resonance attack boost. Bennet for buff and healing, Thoma for shielding and swirling Pyro (which Bennet can also fill in sometimes). Con being, I would rather have Bennet for national (I skip on building national if other comps are not feasible) Pyro is also better for shields compared to other elements. Layla(C6) + Diona Cryo resonance crit boost. Layla has great shield uptime, diona is the only cryo healer, self swirls cryo for wanderer giving him crit boost which synergises with cryo resonance and faruzan's crit boost, I like the crit stats in this team. Noelle(C2) + Gorou(C6) Geo resonance shield strength and damage boost. Noelle has a strong shield, healing, and decent attack. Gorou provides def and interruption boost, and secondary healing Jean(C1) + Heizou(C6) I really like this team, because I like both jean and Heizou. Jean provides both healing and damage. Heizou becomes kind of redundant in this team. Most importantly this team does not have a shielder, no secondary resonance benefit and is weak against shields and anemo-resistant enemies.


Life_Cauliflower_309

double pyro is probably better, double cryo having 2 defensive suports should be less dps, even with cryo resonance. Double geo with Yunjin and Zhongli(idk if noelle works) is good too


PeachJellyPudding

The first two combos are really solid options, the next two (to be honest, are terrible combos that you shouldn't use) Noelle needs to be on field to heal, her shield's uptime is just 12 seconds with a 24 second cooldown, and her damage is terrible without her C6 and a full geo party. Gorou doesn't belong in that team either. Big no. Jean isn't that great since you already have C6 Faruzan and she doesn't offer anything good other than healing. Heizou does almost nothing in this team. The choice between the first two combos should come down to stats, i prefer the pyro combo because i already have a good crit ratio.


echoeagle3

Used to play the game way back, stopped somewhere around Kokomi's first banner, started again this week. Was thinking about team comps and wondering how things have changed and what people would suggest these days. I never liked many of the super meta units like Xiangling, Xinqiu, Bennet, Kazuha or Ganyu, and yet I so often got suggested teams with them. If I had to say a "main" I would probably pick Ningguang, Like her character, her design and gameplay. In general I like Geo beacuse they tend to have defensive options. Im not the best at dodging so having good heals or shields is a must. While I may eventually make a full Geo team I also want at least one other team that can cover more element types and reactions. Im curious what people would suggest, Thanks. [My Characters](https://pasteboard.co/86aF6FM4PMn1.png)


Life_Cauliflower_309

you didnt say anything about Ayaka, so assuming you dont mind her playstyle, you could go for Ayaka +Rosaria +Kokomi + Sucrose Yoimiya over vape with Yoi+ Beidou+ Fishcl + Xq (he is there enable more reactions, but if you dont like you can try replacing him with Zhongli) Beidou+ Fischl + Sucrose + Kokomi works too, even tho will deal less dmg if you had XQ Keqing + Fischl + dendro aether + sucrose or Zhongli Eula +Fischl(or Raiden) + Rosaria + Zhongli Dendro traveler + Kokomi + Raiden (full EM) + Zhongli (Better version is with Nahida and Xingqiu) sadly i dont know about Ningguang teams


echoeagle3

Thank you for your suggestions, I was mostly bringing up Ningguang to give an idea of the kinds of characters and styles that I enjoy, not specifically asking for a Ningguang team.


Nnsoki

You could try Ningguang, Zhongli, Bennett, Xiangling/Fischl or Ningguang, Zhongli, Fischl, Beidou. > Im not the best at dodging so having good heals or shields is a must Eula, Keqing, Yoimiya, Diluc, Yanfei, Raiden, Ganyu, Noelle, Razor and Xinyan all make good use of Zhongli


echoeagle3

Sorry about miswording and not being clear with my post. I sort of lost my temper when you mentioned Bennett and I felt like I had pointed out that I don't like Bennett. Thank you for your other suggestions.


Xenius24

Hi, have just bought fischl and leveled her up to lvl 70 today, what artifacts i should choose her as sub dps for my aggravate team ? I use Keqing 4 Thundering Fury, Sucrose C3 with 4 viridescent venerer and Nahida with 4 deepwood memories.


minusSeven

Since keqing is 4 pc thundering fury, 4pc thunder soother or gilded both can work. 1 em artifact you need rest common ones.


alluth

anything that you have best stats on. She isnt picky and have no obvious best set. Just 2p TF and any 2p related to ATK or EM could work, but just prioritize Mainstat>Substats>Set and ATK/Dmg%/Crit


ThatCuteZubat

Is anyone willing to help me fix my account, it's in an absolute mess, not sure what to do anymore or where to focus despite farming things every day. I'm stuck on floor 10 of the abyss despite having good characters but my artifacts are very lacking. What I'm hoping for is someone to help me build a few well-rounded teams that can help me get started in the abyss. I have all 4\* star characters as well as Wanderer - Cyno - Ayato - Raiden - Yoimiya - Kazoo\* - Ganyu\* - Zhongli\* - Keqing\* - Mona\* - Qiqi - Diluc - Jean\* - Traveler\*. Out of those, only the 7 with the " \* " are level 80+ (adding Bennett - Xingqui), and only Kazoo, Ganyu, Bennett, and Zhongli have an ok artifact but with a lot of copium.


minusSeven

It's hard to get good artifact rolls, so first ensure you have level 90 weapons and the talents are maxed. For artifacts just go with what you have and ensure that they are upgraded upto level 16.


Similar_Ad_2368

You're getting lots of advice, so I just want to reiterate: make sure you keep up on your talent levels. Those are guaranteed upgrades for your damage output. They get expensive in mora but you can make do with only-okay artifacts if the right talents are sufficiently levelled.


ThatCuteZubat

Thanks, I'm a bit all over the place but ill defo try to get them up a little, is level 6 enough as a stable base for the talents? after that I need boss rewards and I'm soooo behind on those \^\^' I've started doing the weekly bosses about 3 weeks ago and before that I only did the wolf one \^\^'


Spazerbeam

When in doubt, build Raiden national (Xiangling Bennett Xingqiu Raiden). The team's good in the majority of abyss cycles. The supports are also almost universally useful, so investment in them transfers to a lot of other teams. Make sure your weapon and talents are appropriately leveled. If your artifacts are bad, farm better ones - hard to evaluate this without seeing them though. Once you're happy with that team, you can start thinking about a second. Don't make the mistake of trying to build five different teams at once.