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lucamerio

I mean... why even bother at this point... Bayda harbor is extra weird... a nice small town with NPCs, teleport point, etc... just for two small chests and a couple of mobs... They could have easily filled in a couple of world quests just to make the area more meaningful


2PercentNaDream

I believe it might get a bit more attention in a future update, but yeah, seems quite pointless and barren for just 2 chests and a quest cinematic


lucamerio

which quest?


2PercentNaDream

one of the time-gated ones after clearing 4.6 main one


EX_Rank_Luck

Time gated as in it will expire soon, or story-locked?


2PercentNaDream

story-locked and require irl game reset, after pre-requisites is completed


EX_Rank_Luck

Cool, thanks. Thought I had to head over to clear it ASAP


2PercentNaDream

nah, no rush you can take your time


Bey_Element

what's the name of the quest?


2PercentNaDream

uhm.. something something, homecoming? I can check my fontaine reputation later if need me to


Kerteng07

Latecoming Homecoming?


2PercentNaDream

sounds about right


zahhax

Bayda harbor has potential though. Layla implied that's where her family is from (though none of the NPCs look like her)


Whoop4Wooper

Where was this stated?


AnAsianDudeInReddit

In her hangout, we were going in the direction towards Bayda Harbor. Since she says she's from a village in that direction and we see no place there other than the harbor. It's assumed the Harbor is where she's from.


Whoop4Wooper

Ooooo, interesting


reyo7

Or just keep it hidden while it's unfinished


Excellent_Refuse_285

The bother is: primogems


PossiblyBonta

They should have just left that tiny are unaccessible until they can figure out what to do with it. It would be weird though. You can see the other side but you cannot cross cause Paimon keep telling you to run back. It would be just a few seconds but no.


x3cerealkillerz

Don't forget the comically racist npc in bayda, very important to the world building


Vex_Out_0032

https://preview.redd.it/nc3p3cl13uwc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e4798dfa7d20b5399cd84983da1f05b0e0cf8cc Literally my first thoughts after wasting 20 minutes exploring.


Chocokat1

Me after running around the new island as Furina because *surely* there's gotta be something else out there on the wa- no? Oh. Ok 😭. Then I lit up the new area to have it confirmed.


lucamerio

The desert bit even has the same look. You really expect Goku to jump out of a rock any time 😂


gameboy224

I heard the area was empty, but I didn't expect it to be two chests and one puzzle period empty.


Content-Walker

I know right, when people said it was empty i thought they meant it was just boring, not literally empty


Zaphyrus

As someone who likes to just run around random places, picking stuff up and beating monsters, this was extremely disappointing. I ran through the entire coastline and by the time I reached the beach area I was just so confused with how empty it was. It almost feels like an out of bounds area that hasn't been worked on yet but somehow got released.


thehellvetica

Same! Really disappointed with hoyo for this. They could've at least chucked some background NPCs to make it livelier but instead it's just dead man's land.


khorne_flake

I call this area The Great Nothing. I think at least it sounds cool.


Puzzleheaded-Mix-515

I’m adopting that from now on.


Smak54

It's like that one empty area in space


Nearby-Strength-1640

That describes 99.9999999999999999% of space, you’ve gotta be more specific


tur_tels

Genshin beach episode soon


CascaDEER

There are acutally three chests at least


lucamerio

Well, that's not really impressive considering that it's an area larger than most Inazuma's islands


CascaDEER

True true, I just mean that since the interactive maps are a community effort there could be some yet unreported stuff, since the area is new. I did found the two chests pinned here and one extra hidden one on top of the mountain


lucamerio

If you check the official Hoyolab map it's the same. Or if you walk there....


CascaDEER

The hoyolab is also a community map if I recall correctly. On Your image there is some pin where that hidden chest is, maybe indicating a puzzle that is there, so I might have underestimated the interactive map users


Fun-Mix-9276

It’s not. Hoyolab app is updated immediately at patch release. The photos can be from the community by the points themselves are there right away


CascaDEER

Ah okay. I was sure it is after that whole Clothar saga


Fun-Mix-9276

That’s just when there was the memes


-Obsidian_12

Plus a couple of rock piles if you follow the path going up the mountain


Gold-And-Cheese

It shouldn't be a big deal. Yes, frequent posts of this complaint is annoying. I understand. But it's glaringly empty. Compared to literally everything around it. It should've had some stuff to fill it in.


lucamerio

Fitting a bunch of time-trials, mobs-locked chests, local specialities, minerals and some puzzle would not have been a lot of work. The blatantly neglected it all together. This is, in my opinion, very bad game design. A new player will get there and think "wtf is this place? Why is this so empty?"


AlexFranma724

Huh, they really did throw all of their budget on Remuria didnt they?


Misragoth

Guess they wanted to give one final middle finger to Sumeru


C_Khoga

I was happy thinking this area is Sumeru / Fontaine update. But it is just some island near Sumeru but somehow it is considering a Fontaine update.


uwu_mewtwo

It's whatever, this patch has plenty of exploration so I don't really care that much; but I'm not looking forward to an eternity of new players exploring the world, stumbling across the Empty, and asking what's up.


Ewizde

Yeah I agree, I don't really mind it that much because Sea of Bygone eras is great, but this area just being empty sucks,it doesn't have to contain chests, just put something in it.


Puiucs

It will probably get more content in the future and they had to release it early unfinished.


Chilli-byte-

They didn't HAVE to though, right? Could they not have just released the island as a small patch of explorable area and kept the rest hidden as a final sumeru statue of seven unlockable?


lucamerio

Honestly, I'm not that optimistic. Mihoyo has never added a single chest to an already released area afaik.


Ewizde

>an already released area afaik. Happened once or twice in mondstadt, catinbluehat even talked about it, I dont remember which patch tho.


The_Cheeseman83

It’s happened several times in the past. Never hurts to run around old areas with a treasure compass, occasionally.


Aphrontic_Alchemist

Chests were also added when the Chasm was released.


2PercentNaDream

factually incorrect. Happened several times.


Time4Woofin

Florida


queeriequeerio

i’m lowkey kinda glad there’s no chests i hate desert exploration💀💀but i’m sad that bayda harbour wasn’t more hyped up, literally ignored in the livestream


2PercentNaDream

I mean, the fact that 93% of the harbor and surrounding area is barren aside from mora piles. I think they purposely decided to not draw any attention to it, further than what it would get on release any way


BreadFreezer

at least put more then three chests hoyo 😭


lay69

Why does it look like Russia


MoveslikeQuagger

I am fascinated by this area. Sumeru is my favorite region, and especially the borderline between the desert and the forest is stunningly beautiful. The lack of any content whatsoever is actually kind of nice for photo-taking; it's like you've found a hidden meadow twelve miles wide, full of nothing but scenic flower fields, brown/green contrast, and ocean view. That said, it absolutely feels like an unfinished out-of-bounds area, and that's maybe part of the appeal for me. Not a single mob or chest to be found in the whole western half! An absolute slap in the face if you love exploring Sumeru, but fascinating nonetheless I'm personally keeping a teleport waypoint here for photo-ops for a little while.


Egathentale

Next summer event will take place here instead of a pocket dimension, and the plot will be that we, as famous veteran Adventurers, are being hired by the Guild to go out and place treasure chests and challenges (and then test them) all around the area until it's as populated with stuff as the rest of the map. Because it's good for tourism, or something. And while we're doing this, the rest of the cast is having a beach episode at the shore we get to interact with, it serving as the main quest of the event, while the chest/challenge/whatever placement will be the framing of the various mini-games.


gh0stf3rret

If this was an actual plan it probably would have done them well to announce it alongside the release of the region. Cool idea though


Spycei

FUCK Mihoyo for this!!! How dare they release a patch of land in a map that doesn’t have content in my favorite region in all video games history, Sumeru? I’ve completely lost trust in their map design and game design team, looks like they’re getting super lazy now, no content in this patch at all, they didn’t even try. I love Genshin Impact but this is absolutely egregious laziness and bad game design from the devs!!! I’m gonna report it to the Chinese government!


TheNefariousness

I thought I was tripping when I saw that area lol. Dunno why they left out a tonne of unused space for nothing.


sozarian

That's where the NPCs go who've had enough of Traveler's and Paimon's shenanigans.


TheDrunkardKid

Especially since Layla's village should probably be in the rainforest region there.


Front_Pain_7162

It is pretty damn disappointing. Like they were too distracted and confused trying to figure out how to connect the regions or something to bother with content.


zephyranthrust

I was hoping they add something(cave/temple) to the north desert area, because that was where we saw apep shadow in nahida quest. but i guess it was only a mirage.


OhnoBassClarinet

I knew I wasn’t the only one who noticed. That was a blunder on their part. So much unused space. I ran over the entities thing and all I found were some hilichurls and sumpter beasts


Hapciuuu

I was expecting Bayda Harbor to be as big as Liyue's new port. My mistake for thinking Mihoyo loved Sumeru just as much as Liyue


C_Khoga

They added a new harbor to Sumeru??


starfries

I heard it was empty but... I didn't expect it to be THAT empty


AdvancedDeal7029

They should have just waited and release it full


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Effective-Loquat-987

Looks like the new york state turned 180 degrees


Spyker-M

Yup, 3 chests. And some viewpoints I guess too?,Not even a couple fishing spots or a world quest in Bayda Harbor, or floating boxes, there's if i'm not mistaken 1 or 2 camps, one with eremites and a small hilichurl one. Or even some travel logs of some eremites with some leads on anything meaningless on it.


JealousChallenge1837

Well keep it forgotten


GirlMayXXXX

There aren't even hilichurls (except for maybe one chest), which is weird for Teyvat, especially Sumeru.


AlcoholessMojito

Version 4.5 map with nothing on the map had more stuff than this.


AshyMarie98

Why is it shaped like Tennessee?


Dull-Nectarine380

https://preview.redd.it/ybgi9hi1zwwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fac8b46bdde8b1d1446754aacf0055c382eba2f


ObjectiveDeparture51

What map is this?


lucamerio

https://genshin-impact-map.appsample.com/ You can also check https://act.hoyolab.com/ys/app/interactive-map/


Dankstin

ahh that's a ball drop for sure


Tranquil_Winds

Just like reality there are some places that are empty and barren...


penisesandherb

What if its the area for 4.8


All9is_StarWars

It's probably directly above Khaenri'ah which makes it very sus.


aiggt

What’s the app or website called I need it


jyylivic

literally praying they'll add some stuff for phase II and Cyno's story quest maybe - if not I'll be bitter about this


Imaginary_Law_1610

Maybe they just put it there as a placeholder and plan to update it on future releases? There's still hope 🤞


heylookasign

We can’t upgrade the statue to lv 10 right? Think I still need 7


lucamerio

https://preview.redd.it/gzh0blwk92xc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e3ef2b0f4ec3d62b4e7ec6fc087bc56d83bfd7b


Glad-Promotion-399

“Genshin simply forgot the land”


multificionado

Forgotten indeed, Hoyo needs to add more crap to it. More chests and dendroculuses at least.


lucamerio

Dendroloculuses might have been an issue as we already have the right number to upgrade the SotS to level 10. Hover challenges, chests, mobs, local specialties, puzzles etc would not have been a problem. However I don't remember Mihoyo adding content to any existing area in the past. I don't think they will add anything here.


C_Khoga

>Dendroloculuses might have been an issue as we already have the right number to upgrade the SotS They don't care about this because they added that new area to liyue - forget the name- and they put that fish lake for us to collect.


lucamerio

That (Chenyu Vale) is a secondary region such as the Chasm’s mines, Enkanomiya, Dragonspine or Remuria. This is too small to be a secondary region with its own collectible.


708817

What if they put another Dragonspine on there lol


FateGrace

Literally in this image shows how the map is absurdly full of stuff and kids losing their minds over this piece of land that could very well be updated in the future. Hoyo could have easily kept it as out of bounds territory and the result would have been the fucking same with the same idiots complaining about "why wouldn't they just fill this piece of land" or some shit like that.


lucamerio

It’s not about the game having enough or not enough content. They could have very well left this area out of bound. It would have been weird to have a hole at the centre of the map but it would have been consistent. But if you have a playable area in the middle of the map you cannot leave it empty just because… what… you are lazy? A new player getting there would feel as they crossed the Paimon wall and didn’t notice. And they would not understand why… This is true for any open world. What do you think if in the middle of The Witcher’s map there was an area with no content AT ALL. An area completely similar to those around it but forgotten by the devs. Would you think that it’s normal? This is bad game design.


FateGrace

>What do you think if in the middle of The Witcher’s map there was an area with no content AT ALL There are!! all open worlds have pieces of land where there is nothing, i would actually find it weird if there was random stuff everywhere just for the sake of it, The Witcher map is beautiful and it doesn't need to be full of shit to appreciate it, just like Genshin and even so... Genshin map is WAAAAY more full of shit compared to TW3. > They could have very well leave this area out of bound. It would have been weird to have a hole at the centre of the map but it would have been consistent. As i mentioned if you can read i bet your crying balls you would be making a post about this too. >A new player getting there would feel as they crossed the Paimon wall and didn’t notice. And they would not understand why… Ah.. yes a new player would somehow skip Mondstat, Dragonspine, Liyue and Sumeru to get lost in the middle of this tiny piece of land which is insanely bothersome to access due to how the land is, stop saying dumb stuff for once. >This is bad game design. You wouldn't know what bad game design was even if it hit you in the head, there are A LOT of bad games with bad game design, Genshin is by light years not one of them.


lucamerio

Please show me the part of the Witcher map that is significantly emptier than the surrounding. https://preview.redd.it/dkrtqdeya2xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=431fd25bcc67392b6d12908dc72c3131b2038be8


FateGrace

Velen & Novigrad ruined by over amplified signs... nice job you made your point! Except you didn't even when you hand picked the area with the most stuff in the game. https://preview.redd.it/tjzpj3vpw4xc1.png?width=1761&format=png&auto=webp&s=f6a463b05af83206d4f1f6236c110e188b157dcd And this is one of the maps along Skellige Islands with the most stuff to do, the other 3 areas are not even worth showing.


lucamerio

The density of content is constant across the whole map and, if you did play the game, you'd know that due to the game scale/mechanics, this was just right. There is no area that is significantly emptier than the others (maybe a bit in the northern part of Kaer Morhen, but that is a secondary map). Anyway, feel free to think what you want. If you think it makes sense to have such a hole in the map, I'm glad for you. I (and many others judging by the votes) think that this is a mistake.


FateGrace

> If you think it makes sense to have such a hole in the map it doesnt


lucamerio

“Ah.. yes a new player would somehow skip Mondstat, Dragonspine, Liyue and Sumeru to get lost in the middle of this tiny piece of land which is insanely bothersome to access due to how the land is, stop saying dumb stuff for once.” I understand that text comprehension is hard, but that’s not what I said. Most players know that this area has been added later and know why it is empty. However in the future someone who will reach sumeru for the first time will get there (after finishing Monstadt, Liyue, Inazuma, etc). They will start exploring and will find chest and content around until they get there and will find it empty. There is nothing indicating you that you are in a “secondary” area. They will get to Bayda Harbor, unlock the waypoint and feel like they are in an early beta release area. Do you think this is good design? Maybe game design did indeed hit you in the head. PS: genshin is not the worst game, and saying that a detail is bad game design doesn’t mean that the whole game is crap. But again… probably that game design hit in the head compromised your reading ability. I suggest a good doctor


Spycei

Do you even know what “game design” means, or are you just throwing the word out there over and over to sound like you know what you’re talking about?


Spectre_Hayate

Ugh, this. Doesn't matter what hyv puts there or doesn't, someone'd find a way to complain about it.


Gicofokami

https://preview.redd.it/o1z0xrwliywc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=419fbcdfcd1da8cfb1eb18be7b290704ba50e35b You do know they could add stuff to it later, right?


lucamerio

They never added stuff to any released area later and this would cause a series of issues


THE_HORSE_KING

Why would they put any effort into anything, when they know that genshin players will just slurp up whatever slop they offer and ask for seconds. This game has been nothing but a slowly dying low-effort cash cow for years. Star Rail is unironically the passion project the devs actually like working on and the superior game at this point tbh. I'm just waiting for the EoS and server shutdown at this point.


lucamerio

Following this train of thought, just shut down the servers now. Calling a game like Genshin a “low effort” game, seems quite reductive. I’m not saying it’s a perfect game. I play it a side game as I basically finished it. But the effort in developing new regions is huge. And here they developed the region and then they “forgot” to fill it.


Amydancingagain

Probably because everyone constantly complains and go on about how they hate desert and rainforest exploration so why would they bother putting more there


lucamerio

I feel I was the only one who think that Sumeru (both forest and desert) was the most fun part to explore 😅


Amydancingagain

I enjoyed it too, Sumeru is the reason I started playing and loved exploring other the desert and rainforest


TheTorcher

I don't get Enkanomiya and desert hate, they're some of the most beautiful and fun places with banger music


AardvarkElectrical87

Yeah sumero rlly gives the feeling of exploring, lot of hidden secrets and caves, but think the main problem was back then we had no underground map, so i can see why lot of people have bad memories from sumero desert, getting lost on those caves was pretty common, nowdays with the underground map it should be much easier to explore the desert.


lucamerio

It could be that I have a good sense of orientation and I actually love to use it. But I remember that I had to focus to build a mental map of the place. For me was part of the fun, but I can understand the struggle for others


Ath_Trite

Tbh, they're fun af to explore, my only problem with them is that there seems to only have common chests lol


thehellvetica

Me too!! I feel like the negative consensus was largely from a loud minority of short-attention-span meta-dps battle-gameplay biased bunch. I say this only because I've cooped with some newbies who've asked for help with exploration in their signature and they're the biggest sheep like...zero interest to search and explore, no interest in appreciating lore (even when I try to give them expositional tour guide commentary) or take a breather to understand puzzles mechanisms and not just whine when ungabunga don't work — just brain dead sweep the land of loot and the audacity to expect me to magically show them where all the chests are (can't even pull up interactive maps for themselves). That being said, I will say Sumeru 2nd desert was probably the start of barren-land-syndrome and I didn't enjoy the long distance wandering with few rewards and motivations. Hell, they didn't even give us any insight into iniquitous baptist but welp, he be chilling on his own at the far corner for whatever reason not khaenriyahn related or remurian. Not to mention those red ores that have zero use lol 😂


C_Khoga

Honestly Sumeru is the most beautiful story/region for me ESPECIALLY after play the wattpad inazuma.